screw that. hopefully Propagandhi stays on Fat. i like actually having a cd.

As long as they still put out vinyl, who gives a fuck about CD's.

That sucks. What will we do when the internet breaks down?

annnnnoying.

that's a real bummer. digital sucks.

They should have used more recycled paper.

"In the band's latest newsletter they commented:"

G7 Welcoming Committee is one hell of a band!

I like the move.

As a hopeful artist I've always wanted to do artwork for CD covers and booklets. I think the visual component of the CD (and of course, vinyl record) is under appreciated and important to the overall album experience. Unfortunately I think more and more labels (perhaps the majors) will before long follow suit and go strictly digital; I just hope there's still a place for album artwork (and potential work for me).

I'm all for buying CDs, but I'll never pay for an MP3. At least with an album you feel like you are getting something for your money that everyone just downloading it isn't getting.

i am i of 50

This may suck but it's the way the music industry is heading. 5-10 years from now CDs will be obsolete. You can either get with the trend now or be left in the dust later.

I think going download only is fucking stupid.

now, I will download their releases illegally whereas before I would buy their cds.

shame

It's funny that people here are shitting on G7 and Prop for going digital only. Yet some of the same people try to call out propagandhi for releasing albums as "part of the capitalist machine". This is just another step that propagandhi proves they stick to their ideals. It sucks I agree, but at least its less wasteful.

The negative to this is that I really enjoying owning an album, having the disc, the booklet and lyrics.

The positive is that the music industry is heading this way and Propagandhi is saving resources. It might not be real popular, but these guys are sticking to their guns and actually doing something about it. Bands like Rise Against, NOFX, Anti-Flag, Bad Religion can write all the songs they want about saving the planet and being earth friendly, but they're touring constantly and releasing albums like everyone.

I just want some fucking cool artwork and lyrics with this. And what the fuck am I supposed to do with this in my car? Burn that shit onto a weak ass CDr? oh well.

What about "punx" without computers?

bullshit! so i hafta buy a computer and cd burner now?

(typed on my work computer)

so people without computers or mp3 players are fucked...

Would it be possible that they could "sell" a CD booklet (printed on recycled paper, of course) that contained access to all the files online? That way those of us without a printer/with shitty printers could clearly read the lyrics/essays/fuck-yous in the comfort of say, sitting on the toilet? And furthermore, isn't this just encouraging people to buy CD-Rs in able to hear the new Prop on our stereos or in ours cars? I have mixed feelings about this, however, I am still very much looking forward to the new Propagandhi record.

I just don't think digital downloads sound that great. They always have more of a tinny sound. Are they still gonna make vinyl?

Wow punknews people. This is a new low for you. How can anyone bash this?

To the guy who said he will download it illegally now instead of buying, good, way to steal from a small punk label and the bands. Have fun.

Making music / artwork 100% digital makes everything much easier to do for smaller lables. This makes it much easier to be DIY. You do not beed lables like Fat to get huge distribution when you can just upload it to a website.

Please. If anything this is the most "punk" development of the year, and all you people can do is bash that you don't get a phsyical CD? wtf?

Propagandhi 1

Casualties 0

Unless, if we're counting of who has the flashier look and more ridiculous hair, then change that around

Reminicient of when Fifteen stopped touring because tour buses/ vans pollute. Practice what you preach, even (especially) if it is not the norm.

Eh, I would rather they didn't go purely digital, but it's their music, not mine.

They said all future G7 releases, unless Prop's next record isn't on fat, this really isn't a big deal..

man thats bleak.

My problem with download only is that it isn't in lossless. I have a half decent stereo and I can pretty easily tell the difference between 320 and lossless. 320 is a lot better than 128 though so at least its a step in the right direction. Also, you have to keep burning backups of your songs in case your hdd fails. You don't get the artwork either.
If they give you lossless with no drm and a system that lets you re-download songs if your hdd fails then I'm all for it.

Ok, the bottom line is not everyone in the world has access to the internet. Not every family can afford it, and not every person gets high speed internet access. All of these jackasses who think the cd is a dying format must like not being available to all of the people in the world, because digital only just won't work. For being such a working class hero label I'm surprised that G7 doesn't see that many working class families don't have high speed DSL or faster services at home. And watching a computer hum for 30 minutes as it downloads one track is not my idea of fun either. Looks like this label is dead.

real punk guys. fuck you and your shit so called political label. your as fake as the next asshole. so, you cant make money off of your crap cds. its all about the money, right? it cost 5.00$$ to make a shit cd. fuck you and your shit downloads. this is the end of punk as we know it. but whats left is the kids and they embrace the fucked download system. fuck you propagandhi....fuck you.

Hooray! Another one joins the dark side!

mp3's are nice, I just downloaded a ton of Jadakiss/Styles P songs off Itunes. No homo.

labels should only put out vinyl & digital.

Most people I know download songs to see if they like them, and if they really do they'll go out and buy the CD. I really can't see people downloading a 320 kbps rip of an album for free, deciding they like it, and paying $9.99 for the exact same thing that they already have.

Stupid move. I won't be buying anything else from them, I guess.

-Chinatown

Personally, if I feel a band deserves my support i'll attend their shows, buy their merch (albums included) and get it signed at the shows. However, most of my music collection is made up of illegally downloaded MP3's. I sample bands before I decide to invest my time and money in them. I'll buy G7's releases on digital and attend their shows, because I like the bands, not the medium. Anyway, this does prevent them from selling to random people picking up Propagandhi's album at say, Best Buy or Circuit City.

Let's vote... will the next G7 headline be:
1. G7 Reverses Decision, Continues to Press CDs
or
2. G7 Folds

Technology is getting good enough that you can easily record a decent sounding album on your own now without spending big money. If you are not going to have a physical CD to sell or have on storeshelves, what's the point of even signing to a label? Maybe I'm just missing something, but doesn't it seem better for the band to just promote themselves online and collect 100% of the sales themselves?

I sure are glad im over propagandhi and never was into any other G7 bands cause this is fuckin stupid. So making everyone who likes your bands own a expensive I-pod ,a computer and the monthly cost of internet subscription is better cause their isnt plastic invloved? please. What a bunch of self-serving aganda bullshit. P.S this is being typed from a librairy right now.

Could they just press less CDs?

I like CDs and I don't have the room for vinyl....

Fuck these assholes. This is a violation of my RIGHTS as a guy on a punk message board. They are sellouts and capitalists, because all they care about is money, as clearly demonstrated by killing off most of their sales with this evil decision motivated by greed and General Malaise.

Although I have never purchased a single CD put out by this label, I nonetheless reserve the RIGHT - bestowed upon me by PUNK - to have the NEVER-ENDING OPTION to obtain this music by A VERY SPECIFIC MEANS, and none other.

Furthermore, this is tantamount to a CLASS WAR against those not RICH ENOUGH (unlike these fucking walking diarrhea assholes at G7) to own a computer, since owning copies of music by these particular dozen or so bands is a HUMAN RIGHT, not far behind the right to drive a car, eat food grown thousands of miles away, and continue to breathe despite the fact that I am a dried turd masquerading in a human costume.

First of all, I wouldn't take anything that they say seriously. It should all be taken with twenty grains of salt. I bet you that they still release the next propagandhi album on cd, or if they don't, then fat wreckchords will release it in canada too...

The label basically revolves around propagandhi. when they were in trouble before, they released 'where quanitity is job 1'. What other current bands do they have? Greg MacPherson is okay, but he's not going to make a label rich. All of the other bands that they still have are not exactly all that thrilling. GFK are horrible (personal opinion). Hiretsukan are pretty average (personal opinion).

But this new propagandhi DVD will make them enough to survive for another three years, until the next propagandhi cd.

They do a lot of great things here in winnipeg (sisters in spirit, sage house, etc) though and I hope that they keep it up. I think that all they want to do is sustain it, and then in a few years, they'll just shut it down.

I could be wrong, but it's not exactly like they're out there trying to expand or anything. They just do what they do.

Even in Winnipeg, an artist isn't guaranteed success just because they are on the label. I remember being at a warsawpack show in winnipeg where there were about 20 people (their first show here at the west end). Just because it's on G7 doesn't mean that people (even winnipeggers) will buy it.

I will never, ever pay for an mp3. This whole idea is fucking ridiculous.
What if my hardrive fails? Do I re-buy it all? No thanks.

will the mp3s be available on soviet-red vinyl? I'm glad G7 keeps it real for us true punxors of the internet

also i heard human fecal matter contains lead and other toxic elements from the pollution we inhale, i trust g7 will soon refrain indefinitely from taking shits. actually now that i think of it it seems they've been doing it for too long.

WEST SIDE

"warehouse shelf-sitting G7 CD"

"our exclusive brand of extraordinarily ordinary music to the masses (all 50 of you)."

ignore the rest of the newsletter,these are the main reasons why they are doing this.

fuck digital. i see the environmental reasons for this, but i love my cds.

I live rent free and have no knowledge of life beyond boob milk. With that said, I don't agree with G7's economically wise decision to release music via digital only downloads. I mean, jeez, I'd rather look at pretty artwork than sacrifice my expectation for physical product so that G7 could make more dough for their causes.

While I respect their motives, this is a shitty thing to hear. In my opinion, a music collection is just not the same if it is digital.

i love owning the cd! downloading is a pain in the ass and just takes up more room on the computer. I hope propagandhi's new release is not on G7 cause i want to have the cd in my collection

im not pleased with the decision but at least they are trying to contribute to a safer environment