say word son

as a resident of boston, i can say that the band sucks just a little worse than the city itself on an average day.

agreed. but i will throw in is still awesome sober.

I am threatening you with violence over the internet, sir.

The first Boston album is awesome.

How can you hate Boston?

i'd say it's pretty good. i definitely like it, and certain songs (time and kid with the replacable head) are amazing, but it's DEFINITELY no Blank Generation. I love almost everything Hell does (his work with Television and the Heartbreakers, his later stuff, Dim Stars, and to an extent his novels/poetry), but clearly nothing he has done or will do will ever matter even close to as much as Blank Generation

also, i think it's really rad that they even mentioned him, he's probably the least recognized (by the mainstream) person on that list. and putting him so high especially is cool.

Destiny street is pretty great, but Blank Generation is one of the top 5 albums of all time, so it's fair to say it was the peak of his career.

LP2 > Diary

I'm glad you enjoy it, somebody has to, but you keep putting comments out there like EVERYBODY should care.

I'd say there's nothing wrong with them, do you honestly think that wu tang has/ever will top 'Enter The Wu'?

i'd say snoop and wu-tang are accurate... snoop never topped doggystyle and the wu never topped 36 chambers

I had to check Wikipedia to see what Snoop's other albums were even called. I had no idea he had 9 albums, to boot. I was expecting to see 4-5.

I'd have to say he definitely peaked with Doggystyle.

snoop hasn't made anything that remotely rivals "doggystyle". i really don't feel like there's any way around that argument. hell, "the blue carpet treatment" is the only other record he's made that i can sit through. sure, he's cranked out a great string of singles and guest spots over the years, but as far as albums go? nothin'.

what the fucks wrong with you?

"Deserve?" I don't think it says anywhere that you need a level of prestigiousness or talent or anything to be on the list.

We are going to have to move this thread into Madball territory, you are getting shanked.

I'm torn between that and From Here to Infirmary.

ooooo. I want to agree with you. "Goddamnit" IS one of the best punk albums of the last 10 years, but still... they've put out some quality stuff since then.

I'm interested in seeing where this discussion goes.

Shit apparently smells better in duh club.

agreed

I know I'm in the minority on this site, but I love Tell All Your Friends. Taking Back Sunday belongs on the list because everything they've done since (Straylight Run included) has sucked ass.

Wait, Maladroit wasn't their debut...

Pinkerton > Blue Album

You obviously have never heard "Pinkerton," one of the greatest albums of all time.

Pinkerton was the peak for Weezer. The Blue Album is my favorite, but Pinkerton might be their best.

Fuck 311 but Gun N Roses should have been number one, they should have pulled a Buddy Holly and dropped in their prime. Appetite is perfect, they were never going to do better than that.

Guns n Roses, yes.

Thin Lizzy? Nothing beats bad reputation. And I can't believe there are people who think Fresh Fruit is better than Frankenchrist or Plastic Surgery.

i think they left the doors off the list because they sucked even before they became a band. although, boston, 50cent, kanye west, and taking back sunday are also on there...so....

Plastic Surgery Disasters> Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables

My bad... I always though Jailbreak was Thin Lizzy's first album. My bad.

Dead Kennedys' best album is Frankenchrist, and 311 and GNR have never put out anything above a musical Big Mac, so...huh?

I'm not going to crucify you, I think they belong on the list of bands that should never have even put out 1 record.

See..if I were 16 at the time that album was released, I probalby would have loved it.

But I didn't download their first release until I already bought Deja Entendu.

While it had a good song or two, it was pretty cheesy and an ultimely forgettable pop-punk record.

you are correct.

Dude, no way, Deja Entendu > Your Favorite Weapon.

The Devil and God absolutely towers over everything they've done before.

Though Your Favorite Weapon is fun as a pop punk record.

Um, since everything released before then was an EP, making Damaged their first long player.

L2 wikipedia.

Since it was the first non-EP they released?

since 1981?

I don't think they're saying its his only great record its just that he's been unable to top himself since, not that the majority of rappers have eclipsed him.

Eh. I like the first side of My War (and I do think it is a better performance for Rollins), but I'm going to be the close-minded punk kid who gets bored by the 6 minute long songs on the other side.
And Greg Ginn played better on Damaged, in my opinion.

I agree that the Strokes definitely belong on the list.

You're crazy. They got worse as time went on

Nervous Breakdown > or = to Jealous Again > Damaged > the rest

The problem with Black Flag after 1981 is that they had no concept of quality control. They released a half dozen albums within 2 years that all had 2-3 good songs and a bunch of good ideas stretched out way too long. I think there are individual Black Flag songs from My War onward that are among the best they've ever done, but if they'd cut back their output, refined some of their ideas, and put out less material, there would really be none of this post-Damaged (and post-Rollins) hate.

I'm of the opinion that Room On Fire is much much better (and their best album) than Is This It and actually found a lot to like in First Impressions of Earth.

No way!

If you took the best songs off the post-S/T albums it might come sort of close to the S/T, but wouldn't match it.

no dice

It's not so much something to get over as someone who bought the records as they came out. I liked the first one, didn't like the latter. I can't get into Jeremy's solo stuff.

I'm not cool, I just didn't like what they produced after Diary.

You are looking at it from a 'monday-morning quarterback' position. If you have the full catalog to look over and dissect it's one thing, but if you took it as it was delivered you get a different perspective.

For example take Samiam, I loved the first record when it came out, I thought it was perfect, but I also loved what they evolved into (clumsy being the only stumble).

I really love SDRE and almost everything related to them, but the one album I just can't listen to is The Risisng TIde...couldn't even tell you why. Just that everytime I try and give it another chance I last for a few songs and gotta take it out. I've owned it for sour our five years and hold onto the idea that maybe some day it'll click for me but it doesn't seem to be happening

Diary is easily the best SDRE. The songs on LP2 are half complete. How it feels... is good but not as good as Diary, and the Rising Tide just isn't very good at all.

I saw SDRE right before they broke up the first time at the Black Cat in D.C. when they only had Diary out. They opened for Shudder to Think. What an amazing show.

I have to agree on Catch 22.

i have to agree on the rentals

Gang of Four is a definite yes, even though Solid Gold was damned good.

no way

because they peaked with Searching For A Former Clarity

i would say war is way better than boy.

Joshua Tree blows War right out of the water.

hahaha Three Dollar Bill Y'all!

There isn't another record that sounds like Korn's first album..

I'd say Taking Back Sunday's first album is on a par with Louder Now, but that's clearly cos I'm a bit prissy

i think that's crazy. i wouldn't even put 13 songs in my top 3 fugazi albums.

Well, technically Repeater is their debut.

In On the Kill Taker

"All music" is a pretty wide net. What about Coltrane and Davis, Dylan and Ochs, Beethoven and Brahms? Most true "artists'" debuts definitely defy that first-release formula, while average rock musicians are trend-based and formulaic and so peter out after their respective trend has ended.

Maybe your taste is shit, not the music?

speed does not equal aggression

thank you.

their first 2 albums were pretty identical in my book

Yes! As much as I am a fan of Blake, I wish Jets had just put out the one record. The last one sounded like the Beatles (that's bad)

good call. ORD is perfect. the other two are just pretty good.

The S/T is underrated

Well, at least that was better than the half-assed Steal This Album

Infact, that was the only album that I didn't care for

War Profiteering is my favorite of theirs.

yeah it's their best album but if we're gonna talk ska-core you got to look to Op Ivy man. Some really good bands since but nothing has touched energy.

I disagree about X. Los Angeles is awesome, but so is More Fun in the New World.

I disagree with X. Wild Gift and Under the Big Black Sun are much better than Los Angeles.

Pink Flag is great, but I have some days were I think Chairs Missing is better, it goes back and forth. All I know is first 3 Wire albums, amazing.