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Haste The Day parts ways with guitarist Jason Barnes

Contributed by sceneupdates. Posted by adam on Monday, July 21, 2008 at 11:00 AM (EDT)

Indianapolis based Christian metalcore act Haste The Day has kicked guitarist Jason Barnes out of the band. The guitarist had been with the group since 2001. The band posted the following statement citing Barnes' lack of faith as the reason for his departure:

This is going to come as a shock to many of you. After much prayer and thought given to the matter, we asked Jason Barnes to step down from his involvement with Haste the Day. For a while Jason has been searching and searching for real meaning in his existence. After several months of reading literature and talking with friends, Jason had determined that he felt there was no God and certainly no Jesus. We as a band do not have problem with those that do not believe in Jesus, nor do we cast judgement on those that do not believe in Jesus. We just want to love on people like Jesus would and hopefully share a little bit about what he's done and doing in our lives. We would call ourselves a Christian band and for that reason, we felt we couldn't have someone in the band who didn't agree with the band's foundational drive.. Jason's new found disbelief in what the rest of us have committed our lives to began to cause disunity within the band and as a result, we prayed and talked about it and felt like God was saying it wasn't time for Haste the Day to come to an end. Thusly, We asked Jason to leave.

We love Jason and it pains us all to not be on the road with one of our closest friends. It has also been a miserable experience for Jason to not be a part of something that he has been a part of for so long. We are all working on mending the tear in our relationship with Jason and are hoping to be able to continue to call him friend. We will not be replacing Jason with a new guitar player. Our friend, Dave Krysl, will be our full time touring guitar player. The 4 of us (Stephen, Devin, Brennan, Michael) all wrote our new album which will be called "Dreamer."

Haste The Day released Pressure the Hinges in 2007 via Solid State Records.

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vocalyouth (July 21, 2008)

flamebait!

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Spazner (July 21, 2008)

Ha, exactly what I was thinking.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

Holy shit, I couldn't make up something this stupid.

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s_my_d (July 21, 2008)

this

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Banal242 (July 21, 2008)

Because if Jesus taught us anything, it's to abandon our friends.

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Tom1022 (July 21, 2008)

if not that, then certainly it was intolerance.

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larspunk86 (July 21, 2008)

Very True.

"We as a band do not have problem with those that do not believe in Jesus, nor do we cast judgement on those that do not believe in Jesus."

and yet...

"We are all working on mending the tear in our relationship with Jason and are hoping to be able to continue to call him friend."

and...

"we asked Jason Barnes to step down from his involvement with Haste the Day."

This is why the younger generations are not keen on religion. It's not really the fact that they hate religious people, but most people hate hypocrites. Personally I'm not religious, and one thing I can't stand is when people hide behind religion when they do something morally wrong. And saying your "praying" for this and that during an explanation doesn't get you off the hook either.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

I thought his lesson was that if you showed up at a 'dry' party, you should spike the punch.

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Banal242 (July 21, 2008)

Dry party is an oxymoron.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

You are telling me, I had to go to a dry wedding once, we brought flasks in and made the party a little better (at least for us)

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Banal242 (July 21, 2008)

I was raised Catholic so I have never had to go to a dry wedding either.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

I really don't care if people don't drink BUT to assume that your gathered family and friends aren't going to want to be drunk through your 'special day' is egregious.

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baseball (July 21, 2008)

Haha, I'm catholic too, and a lot of my family is Irish and pretty big drinkers. Pretty legit too, my grandfather's uncle was executed because he was one of the guys that like took over the post office in Dublin. It was weird going to the old prison in Dublin and seeing his name engraved in remembrance as part of the tour.

Our weddings are a blast. Although a lot of my relatives have toned down as they've gotten older. My family definitely has a good time though, weddings are one of the few occasions I will drink in excess.

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horcruxes (July 21, 2008)

i'm an alcoholic and catholic. i do it because jesus told me to! i'm on a mission from god!

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niveK82 (July 21, 2008)

I blame my alcoholism on Jesus's blood.

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baseball (July 21, 2008)

I was a groomsman in a dry wedding for my friend who married a really religious girl. I saw my other friend at the reception and he grabbed my diet soda and spiked it with a flask that had engraved something like "What would Jesus drink?"

It was a weird reception, kind of tense. Except for our table in the back of the reception hall. I don't know if people could tell we were drunk or if they just thought we were high on Jesus.

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blindbubbacheeks (July 21, 2008)

At least both parties are actually standing by their convictions. Unfortunately, not a lot of Christians or Christian bands do.

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randomhero323 (July 21, 2008)

hah wow

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SloaneDaley (July 21, 2008)

good for Jason, that must have been hard considering some of your best friends sound like soldiers for jesus types. As someone who is a semi-closet atheist it makes me proudto see someone coming out who is in a difficult position like that.

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baseball (July 21, 2008)

Everyone, don't read any literature or talk to people with other viewpoints than your own. You might just change your mind and lose your friends! You've been warned.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

Do you issue a newsletter? If the answer is yes, how do I acquire said literature?

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baseball (July 21, 2008)

Hmmm??? I can't tell if you're making a joke or being literal.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

If you make one, I'll read it.

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baseball (July 21, 2008)

In regards to what? I'm confused.

I can start a newsletter and send it to you every week if you'd like, I like to talk, haha.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

Don't be confused, just enjoy your rants. Not being a dick.

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baseball (July 21, 2008)

I've thought about starting a blog for a long time along those lines. Still think I might be into the idea but never have for a few reasons.

1) Keeping it up to date. I think I could but I worry I'd get so carried away with it that I'd be working on it when I should be doing other stuff.

2.) I've always been a paranoid person as long as I could remember. I'm always a little freaked out attaching my name to stuff on the internet, but anonymous blogs seem a little harder to take seriously. Especially considering some of the anecdotal stuff I'd like to write about. Then again, I could always work on it from the library or post through a proxy I guess.

3.) The livejournal factor. It seems like too many blogs nowadays slide between informative and thought provoking and just someone's page to complain about personal stuff or air

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

There are plenty of us with nothing to do but read your rants. Write away.

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Tom1022 (July 21, 2008)

Seriously though, good for the guy for questioning his believes, and good for the band for making an effort to repair/maintain their relationship. It doesn't really make sense for an atheist to be in a Christian band, so I don't have any problem with the band asking him to leave.

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H_Express (July 21, 2008)

true that. You dont want your vegan-preaching band to have a guitarist that has a gold card to Longhorn Steak house or for your white supremicist band to have a black drummer.

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Tom1022 (July 21, 2008)

as an atheist, i would not want to belong to a christian band, or any other religious organization. in this case, the guitarist in question believed one thing yet played in a band that openly preached something else entirely. like you said, it makes no sense to have a black drummer in a white supremicist band.

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Windfall (July 21, 2008)

All blind White supremicst band?

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Tom1022 (July 21, 2008)

Haha. I'll allow it.

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moffettman (July 21, 2008)

wow, an intelligent reply thread to a religious topic on punknews.

This must be the cubs year.

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SloaneDaley (July 21, 2008)

anyone else find it funny the name of their new album is "Dreamer"?

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

I thought it was funny. Sounds like what 'Stryper' would call their comeback album.

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dlangl4 (July 21, 2008)

"...felt like God was saying it wasn't time for Haste the Day to come to an end. Thusly, We asked Jason to leave."

Haha.

We are on a mission from god.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

4 Fried Chickens and a coke.

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SloaneDaley (July 21, 2008)

God: Jason your work with Haste the Day is finished.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

I'm a little upset that this is how God spent one of his days.

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Banal242 (July 21, 2008)

Well, obviously it was Satan and not God who told him to leave the band.

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baldsteve (July 21, 2008)

Too bad they are continuing... otherwise I would say Satan did us a favor.

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horcruxes (July 21, 2008)

a shitty mission at best.

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onthemightofprinces (July 21, 2008)

Why is it that whenever I pray I never get told to start a crappy metal band under the guise of Christianity?

Clearly the gospels mis-recorded the whole sermon on the mount thingy, cos it was supposed to go:

Jesus: [high pitched vocals] Blessed are the meek.
The apostles: [gutteral metal growls] For they will inherit the earth.

true story.

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horcruxes (July 21, 2008)

i peed....just a little

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Cyanotic (July 21, 2008)

That was pretty funny. Kudos.

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SloaneDaley (July 21, 2008)

is anyone else here a closet atheist (not that you are an atheist who is secretly homosexual but one that has to hide their beliefs from family or friends or shit even coworkers) if so why are you?

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jeremyRVN (July 21, 2008)

one word: grandma

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SloaneDaley (July 21, 2008)

my story:

yeah I come from pretty staunch catholic stock (Irish and Maltese) and so I was actually a pretty strong believer even during my teens. Then I started to think about spirituality and religion cuz what I'd learned just wasn't cutting it and became and atheist that didn't call himself that. Then I finally decided I was and told my father he got really upset and said as long as I lived under his roof I'd practice my families traditions. I pay my own way through college so my two options were to either stay in school and play along for the rest of my family or move out and possibly not finish school. So I've stayed in closet.

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Splendidtune (July 21, 2008)

Holy shit sorry about that. My family is split so it's all good.

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Nameless (July 21, 2008)

I'm not necessarily hiding anything, but my closest of friends would prefer to say that I have no religion than go out and call me an atheist. Oddly enough, it always turns out that my closest of friends are the most devout of people.

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SloaneDaley (July 21, 2008)

a good number of people I know have a lax relationship to religion but still give me a shocked response if they ask my beliefs and I say I have none.

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baseball (July 21, 2008)

I'd probably be more of an agnostic. I don't hide my lack of belief in God to family or other people, but I don't put it out there at the same time. If someone asks me straight up I'm not going to lie, but it's about the last thing I ever desire to bring up in a conversation.

It's never really come up though. Most of my family is Catholic, but they don't really discuss it. They're the independently spiritual type.

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SloaneDaley (July 21, 2008)

I've found my catholic friends to be much more independently spiritual than the protestant ones, I wonder if that is a common thing.

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baseball (July 21, 2008)

Yeah, I've got no idea. I know a lot of Catholic people and they are all the independent spiritual type, so maybe there's something to that. I've known a couple Catholic priests that were way cooler than you'd ever expect too.

I do know I have an uncle that was Catholic and when he moved to the north Georgia mountains he became some other religion and got really weird and more vocal and stopped hanging out with the rest of the family. Naturally his daughter, my cousin, got pregnant like twice before she was 20. Funny how that stuff works out.

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SkolarX (July 21, 2008)

i had a professer in college who was a Catholic priest the first time i had him, then had left the church by the second time i had him for another class so he couldg et married. anyway, point being he was one of the most open minded people i have ever met. it was odd considering when i had him the first time i was worried about him being the exact opposite

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horcruxes (July 21, 2008)

same here. my best friend is devout catholic but makes jesus jokes with me and knows what i believe and respects it.
and i respect him for being strong enough to have blind faith...or stupid enough not sure which

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SkolarX (July 21, 2008)

that would be exactly how it is for me

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VictorIkpeba24 (July 21, 2008)

I really can't imagine anyone doing that, except in a fundamentalist state full of incredibly close-minded people. My whole family is Catholic and believes in God, but I don't and it have never crossed my mind to pretend I do. And with friends, coworkers, other students, I never talk about religion and hardly know if they believe in God or not. And nobody asks me either.

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Cheesetits (July 21, 2008)

Nah, although it DID shock the crap out of my parents when both my brother and I let it out at dinner once awhile back. But then again, we were never a religious family anyway, went to church once or twice and hated it and they never brought us back. My dad grew up Catholic and went to their schools, my parents baptized me (ha) but that's the extent of it all. We've always been pretty liberal about shit so it wasn't hard to reveal it.

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fallingupwards84 (July 21, 2008)

i'm a deist

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dev (July 21, 2008)

Yeah, when you read that Mary is a "virgin", but yet gives birth to "Jesus", it kind of starts to fall apart from there, really.

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TEAiM (July 21, 2008)

such an idiotic thing to say

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bsktcase527 (July 21, 2008)

agreed

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randomhero323 (July 21, 2008)

she was raped by god duhhh

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14theroad (July 27, 2008)

If that story actually took place then it was just spun by Mary after fucking the stable boy.

Joseph:"How did you get knocked up? I haven't even seen nip yet?!"
Mary:"I forgot to tell you, god came by while you were tending to the flocks. I invited him in for some tea.... one thing lead to another."
Joseph:"Oh man, you had me worried for a second. Thought you were screwin' around on me."

And then this simple incident of infidelity went on to become twisted through hearsay, that people now take it for truth. Like that game telephone you used to play in 1st grade.

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SydBarrett420 (July 21, 2008)

Fuckin hilarious: "There is no God"

Will they change their name to Faith+1?????

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realtalkholmes (July 21, 2008)

every time i see jesus up on that cross
i cant help but think that he looks kinda hot.

burn churches, kids.

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pleasekillyourself (July 21, 2008)

they cast no judgment on people that do not believe in god.

yet they kicked this douche out of their douchy band for not believing in god.

huh.

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letthebeatdrop (July 21, 2008)

i questioned this too...

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onthemightofprinces (July 21, 2008)

I think they basically mean.... "we hate anyone who doesn't share our beliefs.... but we don't want to offend the heretics who buy our crappy albums, so we made the love part up."

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martinNZ09 (July 21, 2008)

You are the freakin douche. They asked him to leave because they are a Christian band anyone can see it wouldn't work to have a non-believer in a band preaching Christian ideals

Nice try at being cool though

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pleasekillyourself (July 22, 2008)

hahahahahaha.

kill yourself.

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letthebeatdrop (July 21, 2008)

this band blows.

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Tullaian (July 21, 2008)

They're saving themselves for marriage so what other option do they have?

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VictorIkpeba24 (July 21, 2008)

Does sodomy counts ?

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android (July 21, 2008)

http://a508.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/32/l_3ace5ccb5ac73 06fbb7725b27927ba2b.jpg

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larspunk86 (July 21, 2008)

This made my day. Thank you very much. And I thought Scientology was the dumbest religion. "But suddenly a new contender steps into the ring".

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Tom1022 (July 21, 2008)

hahaha. awesome.

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jZero666 (July 21, 2008)

Good for Jason Barnes.

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thirtyseconds (July 21, 2008)

No! Not Jason Barnes!

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danpib08 (July 21, 2008)

Oh No not Jason Barnes. Haste the Day will never be the same, I hope they find the strength to move on.

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dlangl4 (July 21, 2008)

They will. Through prayer. Or super saiyan powers.

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danpib08 (July 21, 2008)

but who's gonna play the guitar parts for shitty songs that sound like Silverstein?

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hotrodtouring (July 21, 2008)

What the fuck did i just read?

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danpib08 (July 21, 2008)

Why Jesus should stay out of the music industry. I wonder if they have an invocation before each set like at the NASCAR races.

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Dudley_Shale (July 21, 2008)

Jah didn't kill Jason.

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Tobin_Ownlife (July 21, 2008)

I would probably consider myself agnostic, maybe even atheist. I don't really have a problem with people having faith and what not, but what I just read was almost uncomfortable. It was too understanding, yet critical of the guy that doesn't believe in Jesus, in a subtle kind of way. I don't know.

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Tobin_Ownlife (July 21, 2008)

Oh, and they will not be replacing him...yet they will still have some guy playing guitar in his place at nearly every show.

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VictorIkpeba24 (July 21, 2008)

They just fired him becasue of his religion and then tried to tell the story in a way that won't make them look like intolerant dicks.

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VictorIkpeba24 (July 21, 2008)

"After several months of reading literature and talking with friends, Jason had determined that he felt there was no God and certainly no Jesus."

Look at what litterature and discussions with friends that does not think like you make to people! Be grateful that the people who govern us make everything to try to make us became illiterate dumbfucks who just sit on their sofa watching TV whenever they have some sparetime. This way they keep us from these dangerous intellectual activities that could actually make us question what we should instead blindly believe! This band should start a new movement "Rock against books" to protect people from the dangerous activity of reading.

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crackpotdemagogue (July 21, 2008)

"dreamer" indeed... what a bunch of fucking nut-jobs

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Wentz_Equals_Death (July 21, 2008)

this has to be a joke

ps. they suck

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JustinUCR (July 21, 2008)

I read this and I kept hearing the sound of rimshots in my head...but then I got sad because they're not kidding....

Jesus cannot be stoked about this...

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gotsmuch (July 21, 2008)

man, everyone here is so punk for saying they suck! i love you guys!

dumbasses.

what bothers me is that it seems like this has been the case for a while? they've written an entire record since kicking him out.

also:

"We will not be replacing Jason with a new guitar player. Our friend, Dave Krysl, will be our full time touring guitar player."

that. doesn't. make. sense.

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Tudor (July 21, 2008)

Why are they dumbasses?

If some atheist band kicked out a member because he decided to convert to christianity people would still think it's bullshit.

and this sir is a bullshit reason for kicking someone out of your band.

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Tudor (July 21, 2008)

There used to be this group of metal/emo looking kids that would come into my coffee shop everyday. They would pray before eating a muffin and all that shit. They were a "recuitment" group for some youth church.

I asked them about it one time, and they said it was to bring a more tolerate generation of people into Christianity, and they asked me If i was intrested in joining. I decline because I was a atheist but I told them I thought it was cool what they were doing. They promptly left and havent returned in 4 months.

Word of the wise, don't tell christians your a atheist, they'll hate your guts for it.

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moffettman (July 21, 2008)

I seriously doubt they stopped coming to your coffee shop because they hate your guts.

Maybe your coffee sucked.

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Tudor (July 21, 2008)

So the whole year prior they didnt have a problem, but the one day I tell them I'm a Atheist they stop coming?

I mean surley even a moron like you can see this isn't just a coincidence.

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onthemightofprinces (July 23, 2008)

Gosh, don't bring Mormons into this too...

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niveK82 (July 21, 2008)

Jason Barnes to start much better band.

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Someone (July 21, 2008)

2 words that make me vomit in my mouth. Christian Metalcore.

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chris4555 (July 21, 2008)

i'm continually amazed by the fact that people and bands like this actually exist

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skinnyike (July 21, 2008)

sue for religious discrimination in the workplace?

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canaandrumzz (July 21, 2008)

For what it's worth. I'm a Christian and feel like these guys messed up. I don't understand people who will stop associating with people just because their beliefs are different/change. Besides, if the dude is a atheist and in a band where all the songs are about jesus, doesn't it stand to reason that he'd leave on his own anyway. Might as well let him make his own decisions.

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SkolarX (July 21, 2008)

i can kind of see where they wouldn't want someone in the band who doesn't share their beliefs since they do preach them. sort of like a drunk being in a sxe band

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Roblmw241 (July 21, 2008)

Thank you, Punknews, for meeting and exceeding my daily lulz quota.

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StrizzMatik (July 21, 2008)

Didn't anyone learn from the PMRC in the 80's that moshing for Jesus is fundamentally retarded? These were the guys who wanted to destroy all the sects of music now being occupied by preachy fucks like HTD, underoath, and Norma Jean. But then again all of those bands suck ass so w/e...

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SkolarX (July 21, 2008)

that just reminded me of when i went to see mxpx and the hippos years ago and there was some guys outside telling kids not to go into the devil's house and be curropted by his music (i might add that the venue the show was in is an old church)

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danpib08 (July 21, 2008)

This is the best article I have read in a while, how fucking stupid is this.

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Cheesetits (July 21, 2008)

It was certainly a laugh riot. Oh you Christies!

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this-is-control (July 21, 2008)

The banner on their Myspace scares me.
Half the crowd is just copied and pasted. I dont know if it was intentional, or if it's actually a genuine attempt to make their crowd larger.

Anyways; there must be half a man in there somewhere....

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s_my_d (July 21, 2008)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f134/frontplayaDM5/htdfake.jpg

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SkolarX (July 21, 2008)

this might beat the guy from showbread quitting because god told him it was time to move on

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deadXlast (July 21, 2008)

Okay, here's what I think about this;

Christians in bands can be very cool, especially punk bands. I've talked to some Christian kids in a punk band and they were totally for gay marriage and pro-choice, so they were cool dudes. So firstly, don't get me wrong, I don't hate Christians.

I'm straightedge and vegetarian, and the bass player in my band is a Christian (but like the afore-mentioned... not conservative) , and the drummer is a lush and smokes like a chimney. And we get along totally fine and have a kickass time at every show. It's not that hard to get along with people completely different than you.

It's easy to see the bullshit in Christian bands who are clearly only playing for a selective audience. There are a lot of smart kids raised as conservative Christians (like me) who eventually brought their "faith" into the light and questio

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moffettman (July 22, 2008)

The "slap in the face" of the Pharisees, not the disciples, wasn't just because he hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors. Jesus told them that there was no difference between them (the super religious folks whom had hijacked the faith) and the guy on the street who robbed to survive, or the women who sold herself for money. They were so egotistical and pompous that they thought they were better then everyone else. Jesus told them that they were just as much sinners as the prostitutes and they needed to turn away from their sin. They didn't want to hear it, so they killed him.

Fundamentalism was just as bad then as it is today, but it doesn't mean Jesus is all, "do what you feel like, its cool with me".

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Travis42 (August 1, 2008)

deadXlast, you are right that Jesus did these things but one of the important parts that you are forgetting is that these people were not directly part of Jesus's ministry. If one of the disciples decided one day that they didn't believe in God do you really think that Jesus would have kept him around? Based on your argument you are saying that Jesus went and ministered to these people who were considered lower and some even scum and got close to these people...which is what HTD is doing by playing to secular audiences. They are still friends with Jason, they didn't kick him out and stop talking to him, they just recognize that if their ministry, which is what they consider HTD, is going to be successful it has to be devoted to God.

If you want a more physical example, say that some kid comes up to Jason after the show knowing that he is in this band that cl

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syebot (July 21, 2008)

I gave myself to Jesus and now he never calls...

:(

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Holy_Balls (July 21, 2008)

it's 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife

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-Strewtho- (July 21, 2008)

It's like raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnn on ya wedding day
damn you for quoting Alanis Morrisette.

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Nameless (July 22, 2008)

It's a free riiiiiide, when you've already paid!!

Damn you, 90's pop songs of my youth!

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The_Ken_Chin_Imposter (July 21, 2008)

My mom has a big mouth and 'outed' me to my grandparents, so now I don't really feel the need to hide it from anyone. But yeah, before that, I definitely kept my atheism quiet a family functions and around grandparents.

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nina_d (July 21, 2008)

Jason Barnes this is the best thing that could have happened to you

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dlangl4 (July 21, 2008)

I can't wait to read this guy's response to the band's post. I hope we can be expecting this within a few days.

Stoked.

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Splendidtune (July 21, 2008)

ahahahahahahahahahah

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Tangy (July 21, 2008)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

this is the best part of my day

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fallingupwards84 (July 22, 2008)

the comments in this thread made me lol

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iwantmorepies (July 22, 2008)

Wow! Well I guess I don't really care about these NJ mooches, I only liked their first two albums where they sounded like Lifetime anyway.

Chris Conley's ego is out of control!

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gadget00 (July 25, 2008)

I gotta be honest with you folks: it really bothers me when people just say Jesus and christianity are like the mayor damage ever to human existance; which is not.

I will begin with the "logical" reason of Jason getting out of HTD:
the WHOLE concept of the band is to promote christianity; they have always been open about it. Just making music is not the purpose of HTD. If you where part of a knicks fan group, but then you realize you like more the lakers and in every game you will sport the kobe bryant t-shirt, why would you remain in the fan group? If Jason, because of his own decision, decided that he would not stand anymore for the main driving believes of the band then why he must show up and support what he doesn't like/care/believe? Just to please you, "the fans"? come on, he is a musician not a pop icon.

Now, the "other"

show rest of commentI gotta be honest with you folks: it really bothers me when people just say Jesus and christianity are like the mayor damage ever to human existance; which is not.

I will begin with the "logical" reason of Jason getting out of HTD:
the WHOLE concept of the band is to promote christianity; they have always been open about it. Just making music is not the purpose of HTD. If you where part of a knicks fan group, but then you realize you like more the lakers and in every game you will sport the kobe bryant t-shirt, why would you remain in the fan group? If Jason, because of his own decision, decided that he would not stand anymore for the main driving believes of the band then why he must show up and support what he doesn't like/care/believe? Just to please you, "the fans"? come on, he is a musician not a pop icon.

Now, the "other" thing:
I hope the best for HTD, because they actually stand for what they believe. They are willing to pay the price of getting spit in the face by people like you, to stand for the real reason of the band, and their existance. That deserves respect if you ask me, In a world that switches meaning and purpose like dirty napkins. Im a christian too, and I think they did the right thing, because they know the band has a purpose and are willing to lose popularity, knowing that Jesus won't abandon them as he never did since they receive them in their hearts.

Their friendship with Jason should recover soon, Im totally sure; if something goes wrong it won't be because of the departure itself, but for other people ranting and poisoning whether HTD or Jason. I hope God take control on that one.

They have all my respect, and my wish is that God bless them because they didn't regret the Gospel, for it is power of God. I don't even like their music trend that much(however, the last Panama show was awesome!) but I support them for what they did.
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16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 17 For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."

Romans 1:16-17

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eDWeiRD (July 28, 2008)

Do some reading kid. The Jesus myth is based a great deal on the sun god Horus. Give up.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm

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StrizzMatik (August 24, 2008)

Spoken like someone who has no idea that the whole story of Jesus is taken mainly from Persian and Egyptian mythology. And this is coming from a former born-again. I've read the Bible cover-to-cover about three times. It's a good book and that's it. No one in their right mind would take everything the Bible says at face value unless they've been under a rock for the last 400 years of scientific law.