"i didn't come from no monkey's butt hole"

I think its fucking hilarious when I see those emblems on cars that have the TRUTH fish eating Darwin. If it said "faith" its one thing, but its like um, gee, Evolution IS scientific truth. Proclaim your ignorance!

Some fundies, believe it or not, do believe in dinosaurs. They believe they co-existed with men until the middle ages, but people at the time called them dragons.

I shit you not.

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LORDSHREDDER (August 12, 2008)

Wow, that is ridic!

The best Christian-Evolution logic I have heard is that "days" in God time are undefined. Time is a man-made calculation. So that the "God created the earth in 7 days" could have spanned over millions of years, coinciding with the time of evolution. I think if people are going to be religious, at least admit, science is right, and figure out how to philosophically not necessarily disprove your faith with the evidence.

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MattRamone (August 12, 2008)

If God can do anything, why couldn't he "program" organic life with the ability to adapt to their surroundings? Sometimes I think the fundies just like to get butthurt to have something to be angry at.

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LORDSHREDDER (August 12, 2008)

I agree with you 100%

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Cheesetits (August 12, 2008)

Yup, dude at work thinks dinosaurs existed with humans and the earth is only a few thousand years old. It's hard to take any person seriously when you hear something like that.

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fallingupwards84 (August 12, 2008)

i was brought up to believe that

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LORDSHREDDER (August 12, 2008)
But do you still? I as well was brought up to believe a lot of things from the Church, and as I got older, I learned how to sort it all out and believe what can be proven.

I don't think religion has to be a bad thing though. I think its hoards of fundamentalist followers that instill prejudices and ignorance into people; not the basis of the religion itself. If everyone just plainly followed the world of Jesus, you wouldn't have abortion clinic bombings and crowds of protesters with "God hates Fags" signs in hand, and religious groups lobbying for laws that are unconstitutional (because we're supposed to have Freedom Of Religion). But "Love Thy Neighbor" is too much. And its not just Christianity. All religions, you can have some people who use it for personal spirituality, and others who just make it evil in itself and are very hateful in their proclamation.

show rest of commentBut do you still? I as well was brought up to believe a lot of things from the Church, and as I got older, I learned how to sort it all out and believe what can be proven.

I don't think religion has to be a bad thing though. I think its hoards of fundamentalist followers that instill prejudices and ignorance into people; not the basis of the religion itself. If everyone just plainly followed the world of Jesus, you wouldn't have abortion clinic bombings and crowds of protesters with "God hates Fags" signs in hand, and religious groups lobbying for laws that are unconstitutional (because we're supposed to have Freedom Of Religion). But "Love Thy Neighbor" is too much. And its not just Christianity. All religions, you can have some people who use it for personal spirituality, and others who just make it evil in itself and are very hateful in their proclamation.
Recently I was chastised by a "Christian" for listening to death metal, and he was condemning me to hell and whatnot. And I had to think, um, its probably this asshole who is going to hell. And what benefit does he get from his shit? Absolving his personal guilt, thinking its absolving sin?
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crazyjoedevola (August 13, 2008)
I'm a Christian, but I definitely believe "man" has thrown his own traditions and ideas that aren't even biblical into a crazy "religion."
In fact, this is why I don't really like organized religion in this capacity. I grew up in the Episcopalian church, but I didn't truly become a Christian until I was in college. I questioned. I searched out other religions and philosophies. The Bible even says to question these things, to search out spirituality, not religion.
I go to church now, but it is extremely different than the church I grew up in. I'll be the first to tell you the "Church" these has tons of flaws. A church should be one of the safest, most inviting places in the world and in fact, there are many, many that are the exact opposite.
Finally, I believe in love. That's why I believe what I believe. Jesus wasn't an excluder. He was an includer no matter w

show rest of commentI'm a Christian, but I definitely believe "man" has thrown his own traditions and ideas that aren't even biblical into a crazy "religion."
In fact, this is why I don't really like organized religion in this capacity. I grew up in the Episcopalian church, but I didn't truly become a Christian until I was in college. I questioned. I searched out other religions and philosophies. The Bible even says to question these things, to search out spirituality, not religion.
I go to church now, but it is extremely different than the church I grew up in. I'll be the first to tell you the "Church" these has tons of flaws. A church should be one of the safest, most inviting places in the world and in fact, there are many, many that are the exact opposite.
Finally, I believe in love. That's why I believe what I believe. Jesus wasn't an excluder. He was an includer no matter what they believed, their gender, color, status, etc. etc. and that's the way I try to live my life (and this is how my church tries to be. They teach the Bible, but they don't try to exclude anyone. Basically, it's your choice to stay or go, not trying to force anything.).

P.S. I believe in dinosaurs a purveyor of the "God's time/days aren't necessarily the same as man's days/time" thoughts.
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crazyjoedevola (August 13, 2008)

I missed a few words in there. Where's an edit button???

"...the "Church these *days..."

"P.S. I believe in dinosaurs *,and I'm a..."


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necktattoo (August 13, 2008)

god put fossils on earth to test our faith

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LORDSHREDDER (August 13, 2008)

See, that is a pretty good philosophy. I wish more religious people saw it that way.

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crazyjoedevola (August 13, 2008)

Yeah me too, man, me too.

If you ask me, these bands are all P.O.S.s

they COULD if they wanted, but most people don't

P.O.S. is awesome, not sure why he's even on this bill, since he's, you know, black.

Don't you dare connect that band to these bands ever again.

They named it before the movie was ever written. I dunno about the book though.

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edgelife (August 12, 2008)

it was named after the book.

P.O.S actually stands for Pissed Off Steph.

And for the record. POS is probably one of the best rappers out there right now.

http://www.myspace.com/pos

Check out "De La Souls" which features Greg from The Bouncing Souls.

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SkolarX (August 12, 2008)

agreed. the song with the singer from the hold steady is great as well

i know dude!? wrong tour for him to jump on.

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TD99 (August 13, 2008)

I agree. I have no clue as to why he decided to join this tour.