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CNN asks: "Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?"

Contributed by aubin. Posted by justin on Friday, August 22, 2008 at 6:00 PM (EDT)

CNN recently posed the question: Is Guitar Hero saving rock 'n' roll?. According to the article "rock music" is experiencing a halo effect wherein young people who are exposed to new-to-them bands via rhythm games like Guitar Hero or Rock Band are then seeking out these bands' actually albums and releases. According to Billboard when Guitar Hero: Aerosmith was released there was a "40 Percent" jump in their catalog sales.

The article interviews Lars Ulrich of Metallica, whose Death Magnetic will be playing in GH, and his son. You may remember Ulrich for his earlier, outspoken rants against digital media and sharing services like Napster even though now Metallica's new single is both streaming at MySpace and is available on iTunes.

What say you, Org readers? Do you think that rhythm games like Rock Band or Guitar Hero can help save rock? Would you expect a greater interest in punk if more bands like the Clash, the Misfits or even Rancid were put in?

And most importantly, does anyone else pull out a real amp to stand on while playing?

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royalblewitup (August 22, 2008)

I'm not really sure.

But the first tony hawk pro skater got me into the Dead Kennedys and therefore changed my life.

So, yes?

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blue_drink (August 22, 2008)

Holy shit, those Tony Hawk games got me into a lot of stuff.

Then PunkNews tweaked my taste and spiced it with a cup of everyone's semen.

swiftjustice (August 22, 2008)

this got me into goldfinger! not quite the same, but eventually ended up in the same place.

deadbug (August 22, 2008)

Got me into Goldfinger as well. Bad Religion too.

hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

These games are just teaching kids how NOT to play guitar. Also, whatever happened to the days when you actually just "listened" to music?

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hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

Also, I really got my hopes up for that new Metallica song. Not too great, but we'll see how the whole album turns out. (sigh) They'll never top Justice.

veganboyjosh (August 22, 2008)

mp3's made it easier to shuffle songs around, listen to singles instead of albums.

kids have no sense of patience.

*ffwds currently playing song*

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

I really think the CD was the downfall of the "Album" experience, as it were.

hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

That may be true. Though sometimes you just have to skip a track... I've scratched a few records that way.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

Yeah, but it teaches you not to buy from shitty artists.

hotcheetos (August 23, 2008)

Well, not necessarily... Not every great album has all good tracks. I scratched up my A Night At The Opera LP skipping "You're My Best Friend". God, I hate that song. But that record is too rad.

Diver (August 22, 2008)

As much as I hate it, I very rarely listen to whole albums anymore [damn you, iTunes!].
I still try though.
Hell, when I was 14 I actually knew what track was which number on an album and all that, and I miss those days.

veganboyjosh (August 22, 2008)

i can remember the days when i could remember song titles for songs i love.

dammit, i'm old. and slow, apparently.

SydBarrett420 (August 22, 2008)

LOL @ you people talking as if you are old, what a joke

TheRepoMan (August 23, 2008)

LOL @ your dumbass screenname, pink floyd sucks

niveK82 (August 22, 2008)

http://xkcd.com/359/

and

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/0 7/guitar-rising-perfects-the-guitar-hero-with-real-guitars-genre/

MisFit4Me (August 22, 2008)

Response to first link xkcd wins everything.

Response to second link: looks more like guitar training than a game. I'd rather just play guitar without a game telling me I suck. FUCK YOU ROCK BAND, FUCK YOU! I DON'T FUCKING FAIL! AND GODDAMNIT GH2, THAT RANCID SONG HAS TERRIBLE QUALITY COMPARED TO EVERY OTHER SONG ON THE GAME!

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

While I don't think it's going to "save" rock music (this looks like a job for Flashlight Batman!), it couldn't hurt and might help some old artists make an honest buck on their hard work.

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hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

LOL at Asswipe Mancum saving rock, but I guess I kind've agree with you about the video games. As much as I don't like the whole idea, it still is a good (and honest, I gueeesss) way to make money in a band these days.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

To me it's no different than licensing for a movie. Besides, it's not like they're selling it to Dockers or anything...

hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

True, I'm also just worried that bands will take their newfound exposure and popularity to the next level, you know? Then, tours with Linkin Park and Dockers commercials become involved...

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

True. But I honestly think it'll do more harm than good for the ones who'd be sincere anyway and especially for older artists. I think part of the problem with kids today (inb4 slow, old, and strange) is that they know NOTHING of rock music history, so they think nothing happened between the Rolling Stones and Screaming With Visions of Blood (You Tore My Heart). As I mentioned elsewhere, if they find a band like Lucero and realize someone can write a sad song without being a complete fucking pissant retard, it'll be better for everyone in the long run.

Balipunk (August 22, 2008)

Are they talking about saving the industry or classic rock sound?

in terms of sound, i hate when people say "punk is dead" or "hip-hop is dead"

badbrain (August 22, 2008)

Heath Ledger is dead

Balipunk (August 22, 2008)

oh no my friend... he lives on.. in our hearts.. *tear*

hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

I almost cried that day. Such a great actor, even if he was in a few bad ones. His performance in Brokeback was outstanding.

TrueBeliever (August 22, 2008)

His strongest were earily The Brothers Grim and A Knights Tale.

In all seriousness, he was great in Brokeback and Candy as well. Obviously, it goes without saying, but The Dark Knight was by far his best...

RRK (August 23, 2008)

Has no one else seen I'm Not There? That is easily his second best performance behind the Dark Night.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

But...but...Nas said...

Balipunk (August 22, 2008)

oh yeah, he would know... no no i stand by my statement. Wait did Nas make a shirt, if its on a shirt it has to be true.

InaGreendase (brian) (August 22, 2008)

I really don't want to defend that douche bag, but wasn't Lars outspokenness against illegal forms of digital media? And technically, neither iTunes nor MySpace are sharing services in terms of digital media, unless in the case of MySpace you count the ability to add a streaming song to your personal profile page.

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Dante3000 (rich) (August 22, 2008)

And yet you can still get their albums through Bit torrents...Seriously, these guys need to quit flip flopping on issues.
-Dante

LookingForCorpses (August 22, 2008)

Yes.

abracadaver (August 22, 2008)

I realize I'm like 10 years late to the party, but "Orange Rhyming Dictionary" is fucking amazing.

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hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

Isn't it?!

colin (August 22, 2008)

you keep fucking up my life!!

baldsteve (August 22, 2008)

Lyrically its totally Dear Your part deux. Its what I would have expected them to turn into.

As much as I support the cult of schwarzenbach I really can't listen to the last JTB record.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

I wish to fuck Jettison had made the cut.

baldsteve (August 22, 2008)

Its one of the best they ever did. At least the version that exists is good quality

branden (August 22, 2008)

where can this be heard?

baldsteve (August 22, 2008)

My house. If you can't find it elsewhere, I'll get it to you eventually. It's the hardest thing jtb did. I saw them play it live a few times. It never got to a record.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

For the band that made Perfecting Lonliness, that is inexcusable.

deadelectromix (August 22, 2008)

Will you marry me?

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

Welcome to a surprise of Wild Zero proportions.

DrGunn (August 22, 2008)

i think its lyrics are waaaaaaay better than dear you's, which occasionally falls into the realm of obnoxious cliches. ORD however, hits perfectly.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

"dearrrrrrrr diary/it's just you and me toniiiiiight"

DrGunn (August 23, 2008)

i'll let that one slide. it doesn't have a lot of company.

branden (August 22, 2008)

i like it better than any of the jawbreaker albums. i mean yeah, its one of my top 5 favorite albums of all time. for the rest, four cornered night is absolutely wretched. perfecting loneliness is okay, but doesn't compare.

baldsteve (August 22, 2008)

That first sentence made me belch bile and acid. Does not compute.

branden (August 22, 2008)

hahaha thats what i thought would happen. it's sentimental reasons really, reminds me of when i was 17. 24 hr is about equal in my opinion, i prefer o.r.d. though.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

The point is that Blake is god.

lintsay (August 22, 2008)

I prefer Four Cornered Night but it is a great album.

baldsteve (August 22, 2008)

There are certain parts of the country where you can be murdered for thinking that.

That some place is within arms reach of me. See you soon, I'll make it to your town soon

bytheslice (August 22, 2008)

Yes, yes it is. It's my fav. of the JTB releases.

"Four Cornered" is rad, but I never got huge into "perfecting". I still love JTB, though.

SkolarX (August 23, 2008)

so you read the latest issue of AP?

check out the Far album, it'll tweak your nipples into a new tomorrow. seriously the best album out of the 10. (then kid dynamite and possibly then JTB)

mcgregor107 (August 23, 2008)

Fuck yeah! One of my top 5 for sure..

Wentz_Equals_Death (August 22, 2008)

i saw on the sword's myspace page plenty of people who claim to have gotten into them via GH, so that's cool. i guess. dorks. i personally hate those games, partially because i suck at them and partially because they suck.

i think it is fair to say that putting music in places other than the radio and MTV will increase bands' exposure and, in turn, their "fanbase," but i dunno. it seems to attract, in general, less "invested" fans. that's not necessarily awful though, either...

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hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

Yeah, it's really a mixed blessing...

LORDSHREDDER (August 22, 2008)

As lot of punk fans aren't even that invested. The norm seems to be "I loved that band like 2 years ago". Sometimes bands move on to suck.
But this statement usually is used, like someone can't be a fan of a band for more than one album, cause its not cool. Fuck, I've been a NOFX and Pantera fan for well over 10 years and don't foresee getting over them cause the next Fallout Boy sweeps me off my feet.

shanholtzer (August 22, 2008)

i fucking love the sword, own both albums on cd and vinyl, found them from guitar hero 2. also, that MEGASUS band, fucking owns.

baldsteve (August 22, 2008)

Videogames getting people into indie/punk music seems completely foreign to me (insert old and slow).

From what I've seen, it would get kids into the wrong bands.
Do we REALLY want kids getting into Aerosmith?

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hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

My kids aren't gonna be allowed to listen to Aerosmith.

Nameless (August 22, 2008)

Haha, I was asking myself the exact same thing.

Diver (August 22, 2008)

I really wasn't aware that anyone who could actually play Guitar Hero even bought that version of the game.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

Yeah, but if some kid finds Lucero or Thin Lizzy, I'm fine. There will always be evil in the world, and dumb people with too much money.

branden (August 22, 2008)

thin lizzy > almost anything

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

High five!

veganboyjosh (August 22, 2008)

i dunno. i could see a mmorpg where players have to come up with mix tapes. different songs score differently.

you get points for:
obscurity of the band
obscurity of the release
a good theme and flow throughout the 90 minutes
a good balance between side a and side b.

you lose points for:
songs followed by other songs by the same artist.
songs which end up being "the low point of the mix tape", based on the strength of the song itself...(ie, if the worst you do is a killer song, then you do better...)
songs from the same album following one another.

etc.

this could actually be a video game/website for getting people into music that i could get behind. there wouldn't have to be any copyright issues, like with muxtape, since no songs are trading hands, just titles of songs and their order

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baldsteve (August 22, 2008)

The art of the mixtape is dying. Pacing and trying to have no space at the end before it flipped sides. Having good connectors at beginning and end.
You had to listen to it like a story, shuffle and random on cds fuck that up. There is no skipping around, its cheating.

The cover was also a keen point in the creation. You could tell if somebody slapped it together.

I remember spending days creating good ones.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

It's how I used to hit on girls.

veganboyjosh (August 22, 2008)

this is exactly what i'm talking about.

the first time i hooked my turntable up to my computer, i basically did the same thing. i made a mix of mp3's, one song at a time, from 7 inches. it took forever. the end goal was an audio cd mix for the car.

now i'll make a playlist while waiting for the redlight at an intersection to change.

Sliced-T (August 22, 2008)

Nothing can save rock n' roll.

colin (August 22, 2008)

i don't know if anything can help ROCK MUSIC until hawthorne heights are involved.

that being said, i can't figure out how to play this fucking game at all, nor do i really give a damn. it seems so removed and plastic compared to even just hanging out with friends and putting on a fucking cd.

but in america, anything can sell that will make you feel important / famous / any derivative thereof. so whatever. fuck the kids.

LORDSHREDDER (August 22, 2008)

I feel sorry for anyone who felt compelled to buy Aerosmith. If that is the case, Guitar Hero is saving crappy geriatric rock, but should be used to expose people to "better" music.

Adlai_E_Stevenson (August 22, 2008)

I would actually characterize a 40% jump in Aerosmith's album sales as the exact opposite of saving rock n' roll.

Dante3000 (rich) (August 22, 2008)

"Is 'Guitar Hero' saving rock 'n' roll?"
Short answer: No.

Long Answer: Rock doesn't need "saving" through another source of income. Yes Guitar Hero is nice because it gives bands a chance to earn additional revenue from a stream that isn't as easy to pirate. However, money isn't what I think needs to be saved in rock music.

Earning $1,000 for having your song in Guitar Hero isn't going to make bad rock bands focus on writing shitty, easily digestible music. It's not going to stop labels from making awful contracts and cashing in on young bands or change the "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" mentality.

What Guitar Hero can do to help rock music? Introduce kids to some new (hopefully decent) acts. Widen exposure. Perhaps a Guitar Hero of Punk featuring great bands of early punk or a Guitar Hero for independent band

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WestPortRegs (August 22, 2008)

white knuckle ride for rockband? that'll be epic

XberraXcudaX (August 22, 2008)

rancid was on guitar hero 2

and yeah, the first tony hawk reminded me how much i loved punk rock after a few years listening to mostly hip-hop so i think video games have their place in music, definitely.

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niveK82 (August 22, 2008)

clash have been in rb and gh

wigginz (August 22, 2008)

Geez, why don't you post a topic that people actually want to comment on and discuss???? Seriously...

Dante3000 (rich) (August 22, 2008)

And most importantly, does anyone else pull out a real amp to stand on while playing?

This line didn't make me laugh until I realized Justin posted this...It should also add And jump off it so you bang your head on the low archway?

Dude has mad skill.
-Dante

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LORDSHREDDER (August 22, 2008)

I do use a monitor to put a leg up on when shredding a solo. Its all theatrical.

Dillinger Escape Plan used to bring out some empty cabs for jumping off of and throwing around.

Fuzzy (justin) (August 22, 2008)

Hahaha. That was actually my roommate. remind me to show you the pictures of L rocking out to Social D using the little amp. Good times...

these_parks_are_lakes (August 22, 2008)

I'd like to say, it makes me happy that this article engages the user. I'm always looking at the 'Have your Say' section on BBC and Gawker media group stuff, and it's cool that you guys have done this.

That all being said: Tony Hawk's first game introduced people to Suicide Machines, Goldfinger, Vandals, etc, so this game can do it too. No difference.

Is Guitar Hero cool? No idea.

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veganboyjosh (August 22, 2008)

No idea has bands on guitar hero?

awesome.

bands i'd like to see on guitar hero:

atom and his package.
combatwoundedveteran
gus fla
gus can
asshole parade
judjud

blue_drink (August 22, 2008)

Hot Water Music
The Gaslight Anthem

AlChron77 (August 22, 2008)

Seriously, I'd love for one thread in the next month to not have any mention of GA in it.

Cheesetits (August 22, 2008)

Sounds like a challenge.

AlChron77 (August 22, 2008)

Damn right.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

Impossible.

Dudley_Shale (August 22, 2008)

I see this, and raise you.

I'd like to see one day go by where nobody posts on any stories whatsoever.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

Jud Jud on difficult is IMPOSSIBLE.

veganboyjosh (August 22, 2008)

i thought you were on with the links to pics earlier, but this one takes the cake.

congratulations...

sugarfull (August 23, 2008)

I like how you snuck combatwoundedveteran in there, but how could you do the effects?

SLFSubhuman (August 22, 2008)

Well there have been some decent songs in GH and Rock band of the punk persuasion, namely "Salvation" by Rancid and "Story of My Life" by Social D...but those bands and songs really are at the head of the 'mainstream' punk. Dropkick Murphys have a pack of 3 songs for GHIII, as well.
Now if they threw on some Angelic Upstarts...

Who am I kidding? I'd be beyond baffled and I don't think I'd purchase the game. Seeing Toy Dolls would be awesome though.

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MaxEThunders (August 23, 2008)

Angelic Upstarts and then Cock Sparrer and the Cockney Rejects. And then you wake up.More Dead Kennedys would be awesome though.

badbrain (August 22, 2008)

My parents totally just came into my room asking me to show them 2 girls 1 Cup. They were watching some tv show that mentioned it apparently, and it peaked their interest. So I did, they actually made it 32 seconds, which is further than I would have expected.

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veganboyjosh (August 22, 2008)

matt. add this to the meme page right now.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

Done!

Dante3000 (rich) (August 22, 2008)

I got right up to when they brought out the cup. I knew where it was going at that point and had no urge to continue.
-Dante

branden (August 22, 2008)

hahaha i made my dad watch it one time. at first he was like, "oooh what is this?" and then his mind exploded.

SmellTheGlove (August 22, 2008)

I've watched it so many times, it's lost all of it's shock value for me. Now I just giggle like a schoolgirl.

Is it true you have to pay for it now?

branden (August 22, 2008)

smell the cup

AlChron77 (August 22, 2008)

Worst video ever (and by 'worst' I mean 'horniest')

damnitsderek (August 22, 2008)

Speaking of porn-related things, a friend and I stumbled across this last week:

http://www.redtube.com/10147

I'm fairly certain it was made AFTER the South Park episode, but watch this high and it's a riot.

Balipunk (August 22, 2008)

now that's how you get pink eye.

TrueBeliever (August 22, 2008)

You know, I hear it mentioned every now and then, and have been told to look up cleebrity reactions to it, but never actually took the time to see it (or the reactions), might as well get check it out, link somebody?

elliot (August 22, 2008)

A lot of people who play Guitar Hero are the types who don't really get exposed to music outside the usual channels (MTV, radio), so with this game they are hearing songs they either forgot about or have never heard before. It can only help the bands on it, and can only make consumers more interested in rock music.

Fuzzy (justin) (August 22, 2008)

I have to say that people who say "DUDE JUST PLA A REEL GEETAR" need to get their heads out of their asses, drink some whiskey and sparks then crank through "Cult of Personality" on GH3. Then get back to me. It's fun as hell. No, I do not think I can play guitar, but I do know that I can jump off my couch and fall into the coffee table while keeping the rhythm.

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Cheesetits (August 22, 2008)

Agreed, it's just a damn video game in the end. One that was fun for about a month.

Dante3000 (rich) (August 22, 2008)

Lots of people I know who play guitar (in actual bands) love the game. When I ask why, they always reply, "Because it's fun as hell".
It's no more playing a guitar than Madden '08 is playing football but it's fun.
-Dante

damnitsderek (August 22, 2008)

Are you meaning to tell me that I REALLY can't beat the 49ers in real life?

Dante3000 (rich) (August 22, 2008)

Well....That's actually possible but that's more a comment on the niners than your level of athletic skill.
-Dante

damnitsderek (August 22, 2008)

That's all I was hoping for. I think if you found a local masonic home and turned its residents into a football team, their defensive line could rack up like nine sacks on Alex Smith.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

I mean, it's a goddamn video game. Lighten up. It's like people saying "Mario, huh? Why don't you go save a REAL princess, hurr hurr."

Dudley_Shale (August 22, 2008)

Or, "Tetris, huh? Why don't you just go build a wall?"

niveK82 (August 22, 2008)

because it is hard to get the pieces to disappear after making a line

Balipunk (August 22, 2008)

"GTA? why don't you go kill some real hookers?" too...late...

Dudley_Shale (August 22, 2008)

Or, "Frogger, eh? Why don't you go play in traffic."

SkolarX (August 23, 2008)

where the fuck have you been? i can't remember the last time i saw you post.

you're right though, a lot of people who wouldn't play to save their lives play these games and have a hell of a time doing so. personally my only saving grace in these things is that the only time i played rock band, my old roommate was blown away that i only failed once on vocals and managed a 38% on a hives song. he told he that is almost impossible to fail only once and manage so low of a score. (i mention that it was very early in the song that i failed too. on easy...)

damnitsderek (August 22, 2008)

If someone can explain to me how Guitar Hero: Aerosmith is doing anything to help rock 'n' roll, I'll give you a cookie.

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MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

It's yet one more totem on the Katamari ball that is the Baby Boomer idea of self importance.

damnitsderek (August 22, 2008)

Well, all I have are raisin cookies, so the joke's on you.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

inb4 FattRamone

damnitsderek (August 22, 2008)

Did I say raisins? I meant rat poop.

Dante3000 (rich) (August 22, 2008)

Fatty McBitchTits.
Didn't see that coming did you?
-Dante
P.S. In other news...who here's a chubby chaser?

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_aug2007/Cropping.jpg

hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

Oh, me, for sure.

Cheesetits (August 22, 2008)

I want to blow you for referencing Katamari.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

My girlfriend got me hooked. When someone tries to explain it to you, you think "that sounds gayer than Liberace's interior decorator." Then you play it and it's like crack. Playing it high will easily eat 10 hours of your life.

damnitsderek (August 22, 2008)

I'm with you guys on the Katamari. I saw it and thought for a few minutes how retarded this is, but once you start, you really can't stop. It's fucking life-changing.

branden (August 22, 2008)

yeah that game rules.

Cheesetits (August 22, 2008)

It's such a simple game, but I think the fact that it's the most Japanese thing you could ever encounter in America made me laugh nonstop. How could you not bow down to the King of the Cosmos? I think I shall make him my God, bulge and all.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

Really weird fucked up Japanese shit always makes for a good time. I used to think they were just crazy as a people, but then I watched a couple of Simpsons Halloween episodes with my Japanese expat roommate and realized he was probably experiencing the same thing. ("Why is the large donut man hurting people?"

niveK82 (August 22, 2008)

Katamari Damacy got me into rolling my family and possessions up and shooting them into space.

TrueBeliever (August 22, 2008)

I remember a couple of months ago I was at my uncle's house and my little cousin was playing a disney version of Tony Hawk (Disney character staking around settings taking from different movies, its actually pretty rad) and RBF's "Sell Out" was playing from the game, and I was just thinking about how awesome that was that my little cousin was digging the song without even knowing that there are different genre's in music.

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TrueBeliever (August 22, 2008)

In conclusion...games do help save r 'n' r.

Dudley_Shale (August 22, 2008)

Weren't Rancid actually on the last Guitar Hero?

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wonton (August 22, 2008)

they were on the first one and so was bad religion.

but for the 3rd, i dont know.

niveK82 (August 22, 2008)

Rancid 'Salvation' was on the 360 version of GH2

flamebaitnickloving (August 22, 2008)

wasn't it not the real version though, i think it was not really rancid.

wonton (August 22, 2008)

they do do covers.

most songs say "AS MADE POPULAR BY"

but the few that arent remade say "BY"

damnitsderek (August 23, 2008)

On GTH2 it says "Thunderhorse" as made famous by Dethklok.

I'm fairly certain that wasn't a cover.

Dudley_Shale (August 22, 2008)

God, I wanna bang Dr. Elliott Reid.

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wonton (August 22, 2008)

god, i wanna bang JD

Dudley_Shale (August 22, 2008)

Who could blame you?

hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

I seriously was thinking that exact thought last night.

As I lay awake in bed.

Doing stuff.

Actually, it was when I caught her on TV in a bra.

And then the other stuff happened.

MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

Cox's wife is way hotter.

hotcheetos (August 22, 2008)

Ooh, I've had a thing for her since Drew Carey. But I disagree, Sarah Chalke is waaay hotter. Especially in those new panties commercials. I wanna be the one to make sure they don't ride up.

Dudley_Shale (August 23, 2008)

I thought I was the only one who'd seen them. Remember her on Roseanne?

binaural111 (August 22, 2008)

Wut wut?? New episode of Scrubs?? When will it air...ugh I don't get any updates at this part of the world. :(

I just want to know the Janitor's name.

Dudley_Shale (August 23, 2008)

I'm just watching it online, but man I can't wait for another season.

damnitsderek (August 23, 2008)

I like how a year ago I read in (I think) TV Guide that Scrubs was in its last season and that the janitor would have a name revealed in the upcoming season, but hey, none of the previous happened. I'm still mad about how incredibly stupid the season finale was.

Dudley_Shale (August 23, 2008)

I actually liked the season finale.

damnitsderek (August 23, 2008)

Really? It just didn't do it for me. I suppose at the time I hadn't found out they were bringing it back for another aeason yet, so my expectations were much higher, but even so, I was still disappointed.

danpib08 (August 23, 2008)

Christa Miller is hot, Winnie Cooper was in my town recently signing her new math book at Barnes & Noble, she is slammin. Sarah Chalke is hot but Elsiha Cuthbert is the hottest of the Canadian women.

wonton (August 22, 2008)

they dont put strung out on rock band because jordans drumming is like trying to beat through the fire and the flames on expert mode.

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MattRamone (August 22, 2008)

I believe you mean DOA.

Splendidtune (August 23, 2008)

No.

PinkPenguin (August 22, 2008)

i pull out a real amp when i play rockband! but only to put it in front of the drum set so it doesnt move too much due to my awesome bass pedal action

bry79hc (August 22, 2008)

it's way better that kids are getting into music because of guitar hero than them getting into guns because of gta

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WestPortRegs (August 22, 2008)

doesnt that say something about the kids themselves? if you committed a felony cause of a game then that kid deserves to get shot by the cops
on another note:
if people can get into ska and punk cause of some game then more power to them. god knows they need something other than the emo shit they into now

damnitsderek (August 23, 2008)

Have you seen kids today? They're all retards. They'd all wear crosses in their right ears and pretend to be straight if George Michael got MTV coverage again.

ToddRundgren (August 22, 2008)

My outlook at it is with kids playing Guitar Hero and Rock Band all the time now, you're only going to have dedicated kids starting up bands, instead of every asshole with a myspace, and a pirated copy of pro tools. It seemed before the internet there were way less shitty bands, at least on the national scene, because in order to be a diy punk band at the time one had to invest a lot more effort and dedication then today.

edgelife (August 23, 2008)

tony hawk got me into soooo much music

PoliticsOfStarving (August 23, 2008)

How about that Aerosmith game on the Sega. (I think it was in arcade's too)

The one where you have to save Aerosmith by throwing CD's at fascists. If that didn't make people like Aerosmith, then nothing will. And it didn't. Therefore, Aerosmith just suck.

jamespastepunk (August 23, 2008)

Yes, it is.

Dadudebob (August 23, 2008)

i kinda think of the games as working for your music, not satisfied with just listening but have 0 talent? pop in the game and just play along

SkolarX (August 23, 2008)

does rock really need saving? i mean yeah, shitty rap dominates the airwaves and store shelves but rock seems to be doing fine overall. rock bands can still make thier money doing what they should be doing, namely touring. real bands probably sell more cds at live shows than they ever would just through record stores (and not just thorugh adjusted soundscan documents)

MaxEThunders (August 23, 2008)

How about you may remember Lars Ulrich as the drummer of Metallica?

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Dudley_Shale (August 23, 2008)

Who?

actually_OFFENDS_me (August 23, 2008)

Another thing that actually OFFENDS me, which is hard to to these days, are the people who are pissed that musicians make money. The strange, slow, old people on punknews.org and the few annoying stragglers on this website.

TommyTumult (August 23, 2008)

Guitar Hero will save rock 'n' roll when these pimple faced little shits put down their controllers in favor of learning to play a real fucking guitar. Until that moment, they're still just kids playing a toy video game.

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Lanemyer (August 23, 2008)

"Until that moment, they're still just kids playing a toy video game.

No shit sherlock.

Apeman_On_The_Moon (August 23, 2008)

Considering most of the people playing Guitar Hero are probably older than you, dumbass.

Guy_Incognito (August 23, 2008)

My housemate bought Rock Band a few weeks ago.

The only part of that game which even remotely approximates playing music is the drum kit. Atleast with that you are learning some basic coordination skills with the kick drum and and sticks. Put it this way, I think someone that became a master on Rock Band drums would probably carry SOME of that ability over to real drum lessons starting out.

danpib08 (August 23, 2008)

I hope it does these hip hop clowns have no talent

drugmoney (August 23, 2008)

i personally hate video games, but i will say that rock music is probably in a state of limbo. i mean the radio station down here still plays pearl jam nirvana etc... mainly older rock . these video games are helping the industry in some way, but they just attract kids that will just eventually lose intrest and go for what everyone else is lsting to. i still wouldnt go pay $500 and play these stupid games if they had music i listen to on em

Adam_K (August 23, 2008)

Hey man, I like Aerosmith.

Apeman_On_The_Moon (August 23, 2008)

Wow, some of you people are dense. Nobody plays these games to expect to learn how to play guitar. All you music snobs and old, bearded dinosaurs need to get with the times. "Waaaaah, these kids should learn to play REAL guitars, instead of some stupid game! Waaaaaaaah!" So I guess people who play Madden should try out for the NFL instead. Or people who play Call of Duty 4 should enroll in the Army.

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