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Against Me! to start pre-production on new record, likely recording in August

Contributed by Torgo. Posted by aubin on Friday, July 3, 2009 at 12:00 PM (EDT)

In a post to the recording engineer forum, Gearslutz, veteran producer Butch Vig commented on recording plans for the next Against Me! album. Apparently Vig will again be recording the band and noted:

I'm starting pre-pro with them in a couple weeks for the next album, which we hope to start in August.

Vig also recorded the band's Sire debut, New Wave. The record is expected in 2010.

Against Me! will see release of their EP, The Original Cowboy, on July 7, 2009.

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shrapnel (July 3, 2009)

i'm 24 and after a shitty breakup went from 180 to 166 pounds. i've stopped losing weight but i am still a little flabby. how can i harden up my mid section. crunches seem to be working only real slow and really it's not that much. i drink a lot of beer. is my only option to quit all the booze. i do lots of running. 4 miles 5 times a week. any suggestions on how to stop this plateau i've hit and get a little more hard/lean?

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dlangl4 (July 3, 2009)

Sounds like the issue I had.

Yes, the beer will add serious poundage. But who wants to quit?
Eat SMALLER portions of what you eat. Order a sandwich, only eat half, have the second half for your next meal. Don't supersize. Don't get gross extras, like NO mayo, NO side of ranch dressing, NO nacho cheese sauce. Try getting in your daily fiber too. A bowl of oatmeal every day for breakfast is good.

Annnnd you can always use ephedrine before a good workout. But its a mother fucker finding it these days. Ephedrine-Free (Stackers, Hydroxycut, Redline) don't work for shit and just make you more tired. Creatine is for skinny guys bulking up. If you have a little pudge, then chances are you already consume enough protein and don't need to take shakes and powder.

Scarysmurf (July 3, 2009)

Haahahahahahahahahah

abracadaver (July 3, 2009)

Well played.

24HourPriapism (July 3, 2009)

this never gets old.

crackpotdemagogue (July 3, 2009)

it's like the same wording and everything

XberraXcudaX (July 3, 2009)

A million posts later and I still yell with glee everytime I see this. Thank you, sir.

jakeman5000 (July 4, 2009)

Hgh

scientistrock (July 3, 2009)

I think Butch is just in denial.

SloaneDaley (July 3, 2009)

Not him again, oh well. Anyways, I hope this sounds more like Heat Burns than New Wave.

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Rustwater (July 3, 2009)

I concur

abracadaver (July 3, 2009)

What's the difference? They were both shit.

SloaneDaley (July 3, 2009)

Heart Burns was a good pop record if you like that sort of thing, reminded me a lot of Tegan and Sara. New Wave was a bad pop record, that remind me of unbuttered toast.

MisFit4Me (July 3, 2009)

My only beef with Heart Burns was the fake hand claps in that one song. Otherwise it was good.

Lars_Frederiksen (July 3, 2009)

new wave part deux

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scientistrock (July 3, 2009)

You forgot to say, *has seizure, but not from drugs...seriously*

IanIsSuperRad (July 3, 2009)

Newer Wave

jeffbagwell (July 3, 2009)

The original wave?

24HourPriapism (July 3, 2009)

this site is a ghost town during july 4th weekend.

R3vengeTherapy (July 3, 2009)

Ugh, not more Butch Vig.

Mike_Killroad (July 3, 2009)

Butch Vig is on Gearslutz? Holy Cow.

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AnonymousCoward (July 3, 2009)

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/4321774-post5.html

the_other_scott (July 3, 2009)

i really wish they weren't going in with butch vig. i'm expecting a big return to form on this record.

hopefully the absence of warren will mean less bullshit disco beats.

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searchandcomply (July 3, 2009)

against me! have never made a record that was a return to form.

the_other_scott (July 3, 2009)

which is why i'm expecting one on this release.

SouthernLovin (July 4, 2009)

No use looking back, I always say.

red_eye_inc (July 3, 2009)

1. All their records sound pretty different, they can't return to form if there's no form to return to
2. Why would they go backwards after their biggest record? I'm sure more people bought New Wave than all their other records combined, so why would they bother pandering to their fans that ditched them?

the_other_scott (July 3, 2009)

1. i guess by return to form i meant the form of being a good band
2. why is making a better record pandering to your old fans? and since when is your biggest record your best record?

nowah (July 3, 2009)

are you really blaming warren for the disco beats

the_other_scott (July 3, 2009)

no. i blame him more for the guitar parts.

jables13 (July 3, 2009)

lol

PoliticsOfStarving (July 3, 2009)

pretty sure tom is the one who is into disco.

SouthernLovin (July 4, 2009)

*techno

Guy made my friend a mix CD with a bunch of techno and pop songs. It was weird. He was stoked. But it did include the Equals, so that's okay, I guess.

Tom_Delonge (July 3, 2009)

Tom Gabel is a circular narrative in many ways, where he kind of sums up the human race in a time capsule

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cagedwisdom (July 3, 2009)

Damn, Tom. You really are deep now.

RedScare (July 3, 2009)

Come to think of it, AM! has never used the same producer twice. Of all the guys to go back, Vig would seem the most unlikely to me. They must have their reasons...

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IanIsSuperRad (July 3, 2009)

Because Tom Gabel is literally in love with the man.

miniblindbandit (July 3, 2009)

mcgregor did reinventing and as the eternal cowboy.

RedScare (July 3, 2009)

No, Eternal Cowboy was done by some dude Ardent Studios in TN. McGregor helped with the demos though.

miniblindbandit (July 3, 2009)

i thought they took mcgregor with them to ardent. at least that's what punknews tells me.

http://www.punknews.org/article/33222

but you probably have inside information so i'll take your word for it.

RedScare (July 3, 2009)

Right, "The Original Cowboy" is the demo session for the record. Which was later released...so technically that's your 2nd LP and you win!

m1tch (July 3, 2009)

They always use the same producer twice. Rob Mcgregor did reinventing, and eternal, and j. robbins did searching and the live album.

RedScare (July 3, 2009)

Bzzzt, wrong again. Not only can you not really count a guy who worked on a live record in with studio producers, but Robbins didn't produce that thing. He worked on post-production.

SloaneDaley (July 3, 2009)

Am I the only one that could see AM! covering "One Two Three and I Fell" by Tommy James & the Shondells?

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24HourPriapism (July 3, 2009)

i could actually see AM! covering something really, really overblown like Yes or ELO, or 70's-era Sparks.

abracadaver (July 3, 2009)

If this sounds anything like "Searching For a Former Clarity," I'll be happy. I still love the second half of that album (from "Pretty Girls (The Mover)" on) to death.

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lostandclowned (July 3, 2009)

That album's so bleak. The sequencing is amazing, especially from Pretty Girls to Joy. Those three songs sound really good next to each other. Definitely my favorite.

SloaneDaley (July 3, 2009)

can I get an amen?

jacknife737 (July 3, 2009)

I like you.

XberraXcudaX (July 3, 2009)

That record will always hold a special place in my heart cause its what I was listening to in september, 2005. When my daughter was born.

RadToTheMax (July 3, 2009)

They should pull a Nirvana and have Steve Albini produce the next one. How cute would that be?

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SloaneDaley (July 3, 2009)

or pull a Police and have Tom Gabel tell the rest of the guys he is going on a break to do his solo thing and they'll get back together after he trys that out and then just never really do.

Cos (July 3, 2009)

cuter than a bag of lol cats, obvs.

You_Are_A_Loser (July 3, 2009)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H52eQFOj11Q

24HourPriapism (July 3, 2009)

i actually wouldn't mind a steve albini-produced AM! album.

PoliticsOfStarving (July 3, 2009)

yah. he gets a much better sound than butch fuckin vig.

misterspike (July 4, 2009)

I think Albini would make a great AM! record ...

lostandclowned (July 3, 2009)

He'll never top 21st Century Breakdown.

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binaural111 (July 3, 2009)

hahhaha

MyStereoHasMono (July 3, 2009)

Time for AM to crank out another steaming turd. You've been warned people.

CBSrocksteady (July 3, 2009)

this may be redundant, but i dont care. what is everyone's favorite AM song?

i'm gonna have to say tonight were gonna give it 35%

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MilesQToast (July 3, 2009)

I've heard such terrible things I"ve never listened to anything after rax. I really like that though. Listening now and forgot how much I did.

R3vengeTherapy (July 3, 2009)

You've got it backwards, they got 10000% better after RAR.

New Wave is better than RAR. And New Wave isn't that good, though it does have it's moments.

basickly (July 3, 2009)

New Wave... Better than RAR?

...?

SouthernLovin (July 4, 2009)

As a cumulative record, I can definitely agree with that. I feel like RAX was just a cover album of all their older good songs done not as well. Oh, and some crappy extras thrown in. I prefer their stuff before that, "Acoustic EP," "Crime," etc.

But as a whole, New Wave is a better record.

SloaneDaley (July 3, 2009)

Searching For A Former Clarity (yes the song not the album).

Scarysmurf (July 3, 2009)

I Still Love You Julie

miniblindbandit (July 3, 2009)

walking is still honest (crime version)

scientistrock (July 3, 2009)

Cliche Geuvara.

Tom_Delonge (July 3, 2009)

Walking is still honest (crime version) is a circular narritive in many ways. Where it kind of sums up the human race in a time capsule.

acris (July 3, 2009)

armageddon

abracadaver (July 3, 2009)

Yup, either that one, "Joy" or "Searching For a Former Clarity."

XberraXcudaX (July 3, 2009)

Politics of starving or pints.

TrueBeliever (July 3, 2009)

Top 5:

The Disco Before the Breakdown
Searching for a Former Clarity
Walking Is Still Honest [Crime version]
Sink, Florida, Sink [Rock Against Bush version]
Thrash Unreal

Thrilhouse (July 3, 2009)

Exhaustion.

syebot (July 3, 2009)

Beginning In An Ending

jacknife737 (July 3, 2009)

1) Sink Florida, Sink
2) Search For a Former Clarity
3) Thrash Unreal
4) 35 %
5) Walking Is Still Honest

PoliticsOfStarving (July 3, 2009)

it's so hard to choose.

Those Anarco Punx, Politics of Starving, TSR, Y'all Don't Wanna Step To Dis, Scream It Til You're Coughing Up Blood

oh, and Burn

SouthernLovin (July 4, 2009)

Disco Before the Breakdown.

miniblindbandit (July 3, 2009)

i like the original cowboy more than as the eternal. there i said it. now i can forget about this band again.

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telegraphrocks (July 3, 2009)

There is absolutely no reason for The Original Cowboy to exist. I listened to it once, and will never put it on again.
The only Against Me! release I will never buy...

miniblindbandit (July 3, 2009)

same here. but i never listen to as the eternal either so i guess it's a moot point.

crackpotdemagogue (July 3, 2009)

really not a fan of vig's work. wish they would get some one a bit less high-profile and radio rock orientated to do it.

teeto (July 3, 2009)

Going to see the Sainte-Catherines in Longueiul QC for july 4th, Fuck Yeah! Hoping for "No pads, no helmets...just a bunch of dicks".

XberraXcudaX (July 3, 2009)

I've got a strong feeling this record will be their decemberunderground.

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TrueBeliever (July 3, 2009)

Decemberunderground was a great record, so that would be a good thing if it is.

XberraXcudaX (July 3, 2009)

Well, we won't argue over how good or bad that record was, but what im saying is this record be a distinct line that divides against me fans.

baldy_shale (July 3, 2009)

Have we hopped in a time machine? I thought that was that album called "every record they've released since Reinventing Axl Rose."

CBSrocksteady (July 3, 2009)

yeah I would kinda say Searching... was that record

XberraXcudaX (July 3, 2009)

I know what you guys are saying, but as...different as new wave was, it still had elements of old against me. Piss and vinegar, for example. Going back to my afi reference, sing the sorrow was the same way. Here and there, it still felt like an afi record. Then decemberunderground came out and suddenly they'd all had sex changes. I just think this new against me will be the point of no return for a lot of fans. In other words, I think its gonna fucking suck.

SouthernLovin (July 3, 2009)

I dunno... I agree with your assessments of "New Wave" and "Sing the Sorrow," but have you heard the new Against Me! songs? They sound pretty damn good to me.

XberraXcudaX (July 3, 2009)

Well, here's hoping.

SouthernLovin (July 4, 2009)

Indeed.

PoliticsOfStarving (July 3, 2009)

Well, if it was a live record of new songs, it could be great, if that is the case. But even if they come out with some awesome songs, Butch Vig is gonna make them practically unlistenable.

SouthernLovin (July 4, 2009)

Haha fair enough. I do wish they'd be rid of Butch Vig, don't get me wrong, but honestly, and as someone who's been a fan since "Crime EP," I really don't see what the collective problem is. I like new Against Me! just fine. Though I did notice that the new songs, live, strayed from the Warren Oakes disco beat indie-type songs found in New Wave, and was more of in a folk-rock direction.

That's just me, though.

jacknife737 (July 3, 2009)

Hasn't that already happened, like every record since Reinventing?

noathfx (July 3, 2009)

yess! can't wait for new against me!

jacknife737 (July 3, 2009)

So fucking stoked. I just hope we get it this year.

PoliticsOfStarving (July 3, 2009)

Fuckin Butch Vig. What a disappointment.

jakeman5000 (July 4, 2009)

drum machine?...

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PoliticsOfStarving (July 4, 2009)

No, George Rebelo!

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