i checked out this album because of you. i didnt like it but this girl i was seeing did... i think you got me laid...

The avenged sevenfold drummer died

probably because only 6 people rated it

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ffwoodycooks (January 1, 2010)

im pretty sure more people just rated without commenting.
but, what confuses me is that paramore made the list with a 3 star average. granted, yes, more people voted for that most likely yet, it seems like there are just as many people who liked it as there were those who hated it. yet, it still made the list while an album that was met with universal acclaim from those who rated it doesnt even crack the list. im not 100% on how the math was done to calculate this but, it seems like FOTL should have made it.
oh well, bummer.

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victim (January 1, 2010)

I would've voted it up in solidarity, but then it would appear in my Top Albums. But if I'd known it would get snubbed I would've even though I didn't personally care for it.

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aubin (January 2, 2010)

The way it works is based on overall positive review share. This part is important because we have to balance a combination of review /volume/ (i.e. how many people review something) and what those reviews turn out to be. So it's not enough to have a small number of very positive reviews. Take it like this:

If 100 people give Paramore a 5 star review and 100 people give it a 1 star review, it will have an average score of 3.
If 50 people give Future of the Left a 5 star review and 50 people give it a 3 star review, it will have an average score of 4.

Which one had the better overall? That's where weighted volumes become very important and that's why averages won't always reflect the albums. We have to normalize review scores over review volumes to come up with these ratings.

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ffwoodycooks (January 3, 2010)

alright, thanks for clearing that up.

I didn't get to hear it until about a week ago so I didn't vote. But yeah, it's pretty great.

Also, the appearance of that Paramore album is slightly suspect.

while the mighty ducks sequel was overrated by far, i think the carlito's way 'prequel,' was infact a movie with all of the qualities one searches for in a film...

Agreed. This is a list I can get behind for the most part. Fucking Paramore though.

which new del? i heard funk man and thought it was mediocre.
i feel Dalek had the best hip hop alum this year.

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noah (January 1, 2010)

Oh, you didn't hear Cuban Linx 2?

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ffwoodycooks (January 1, 2010)

actually, no i didnt

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noah (January 1, 2010)

check it out!

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sleepwalker (January 1, 2010)

Cuban Linx II is very good, but Never Better and Us are superior.

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cut_the_mullet (January 1, 2010)

I know this is a very white person thing to say, but Mos Def's new album is definitely one of the top hip hop albums to come out this year

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ZachLeg (January 1, 2010)

Mos Def is always consistent with his work. I definitely love the Black Star stuff

Del's fucking boring.

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drHankMcCoy (January 2, 2010)

you're dumb. big ups to OBFCLII.

I can only assume your mean the commercial he did for G4. It was okay.

Also, no one reviewed the new record for the site. If you have such an epic hard on for it, review it and maybe it will crack the top 20. Otherwise, you might as well complain that the new KISS album didn't make the top list. If it isn't reviewed it can't possibly be a favorite

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chadreligion (January 2, 2010)

I don't get THAT much free time these days, but I just might have to do that

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Dante3000 (rich) (January 3, 2010)

Have you seen some of the reviews around here? I think you should be able to keep par with some of those. For godsakes MikexDude is even staff, have you seen what he writes?

good looks on the American Steel they deserve a mention at least. I honestly enjoyed Dead to Me's new album as well, although the other vocalist was a big part of the group. Nofx coaster doesnt deserve anything though. Nofx is really dissapointing...I guess all they really want to do is put out punk albums with the same exact sound and formulas. This album would've been good if it came out in the early 90s i think.

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jacknife737 (January 1, 2010)

I've been spinning the new Dead to Me constantly the past couple days. I really hope the other vocalist comes back for the next album, but i'm really pleased with what they put out with African Elephants.

As for Coaster, to each their own i suppose. I think Orphan Year alone is one of the best songs they've written.

"You can storm the edit suiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite, move to block it's theatrical release" etc etc is my cell phone ring.

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Deadpan (January 1, 2010)

I put it on a lot when I have to do the dishes, and that happens quite a lot. It still gets me as pumped now as when it first came out.

i like it a lot, but its definetly no number one. Nothington gets that place on my list. I listen to it maybe once a week or once every other week and i dig it a lot.
What was your favorite album?

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mattramone (January 1, 2010)

It's Great to Be Alive, with a bullet.

It didn't hurt that I found Chris Farren shirtless on my couch. (based on a true story)

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

This makes your opinion null and void.

I've actually listened to it a lot since it came out. I thought for sure it was not going to be #1 because of Dinosaur Jr., Chuck Ragan, Lucero, and Frank Turner. But they all came up short.

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mattramone (January 1, 2010)

Chuck and Luceor may not have brought their A game, and that Turner record grinds to a halt 2/3 of the way through, but honestly I think Farm is the best record Dino Jr.'s done since You're Living All Over Me, if not actually their best record ever.

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

Lucero was fucking great this year. I don't know what you're talking about.

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ElVaquero (January 2, 2010)

well i'll agree with you on Dino Jr

I listened to it non-stop when I first got it, now I kinda just pick and choose songs every once in a while.

Agreed.

It's not a bad album, but i just get kind of a "meh" feeling after i listen to it.

Dude. "The Bangers Embrace"

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mattramone (January 1, 2010)

Dude. One song.

You've posted that a couple time about this album. What does the even mean, exactly? How would this stand or not stand the test of time compared to their albums and why would it really matter? Is that how you judge music when you buy or listen to it, by how well you think it will stand the "test of time"? I don't get it.

I really enjoyed this album. Best thing they've done since Today's Empires, and easily one of their best records, in my opinion. The only reason I haven't listened to it lately is because I played the shit out of it at first and had to give some other stuff some attention, which isn't unusual for me when I really love an album. I just listened to this recently and still felt the same way about it.

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mattramone (January 1, 2010)
I thought it was awesome the first time I heard it, and now I have to think really hard to remember even one particular thing about it. It's way forgettable. Also the lyrics made me think of being stuck at a basement show next to That Guy who decides to tell you all about his personal belief system. (Yeah, I know I bought the record and blah blah blah, but that didn't make it any less reactionary and annoying. Also, no download card? Up the posers.)

The songs all bled together in a really bad way, and you know it's a bad sign when you find yourself trying to force yourself to get into an album. It wasn't bad in the way, say, a T-Pain album is bad, but it's still to me ultimately disposable and certainly not worthy of inclusions on any kind of "best of" lists. I'll still be listening to American Rubicon in ten years. I dunno if I'll even remember owning Supp

show rest of commentI thought it was awesome the first time I heard it, and now I have to think really hard to remember even one particular thing about it. It's way forgettable. Also the lyrics made me think of being stuck at a basement show next to That Guy who decides to tell you all about his personal belief system. (Yeah, I know I bought the record and blah blah blah, but that didn't make it any less reactionary and annoying. Also, no download card? Up the posers.)

The songs all bled together in a really bad way, and you know it's a bad sign when you find yourself trying to force yourself to get into an album. It wasn't bad in the way, say, a T-Pain album is bad, but it's still to me ultimately disposable and certainly not worthy of inclusions on any kind of "best of" lists. I'll still be listening to American Rubicon in ten years. I dunno if I'll even remember owning Supporting Ban Pun in five.
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theproblemwithfire (January 1, 2010)
Hmm. I don't think the songs blend together nor do I find anything other than two of Todd's songs forgettable. I like the flow and pace of the album and I think it's got some of their best material on it, both song and lyric-wise (supporting caste, coaches corner, banger's embrace, last will, etc). As far as the lyrics go, it's nothing out of the ordinary for them. If you've ever heard them before you know what you're in for. From what I remember, you were never really a fan of their lyrics in the first place so I don't know why you're taking issue with them at this point. In fact I actually think there's more personal and less in-your-face lyrics out of any of their previous stuff (without love, banger's embrace). Oh well. I guess we just disagree.

American Rubicon? Man, I love the Cobra Skulls but save for a couple songs I was really let down by it. It's s

show rest of commentHmm. I don't think the songs blend together nor do I find anything other than two of Todd's songs forgettable. I like the flow and pace of the album and I think it's got some of their best material on it, both song and lyric-wise (supporting caste, coaches corner, banger's embrace, last will, etc). As far as the lyrics go, it's nothing out of the ordinary for them. If you've ever heard them before you know what you're in for. From what I remember, you were never really a fan of their lyrics in the first place so I don't know why you're taking issue with them at this point. In fact I actually think there's more personal and less in-your-face lyrics out of any of their previous stuff (without love, banger's embrace). Oh well. I guess we just disagree.

American Rubicon? Man, I love the Cobra Skulls but save for a couple songs I was really let down by it. It's such a step down from Sitting Army. Nowhere near as cohesive and too much filler. Still need to hear that 7" though because I remember lost in campaigns being good.
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ElVaquero (January 2, 2010)

hey, the last T-Pain album was pretty good actually

Propagandhi > MattRamone

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mattramone (January 1, 2010)

I assure you I serve better food.

A lot.

I simply can NOT listen to it at all anymore...

It's definitely their worst album, by far, and 10 months after that I fact I would only say 2 songs have reply value now.

Supporting Caste is definitely one of the most overrated albums of the year.

I keep thinking that eventually I'll like a Propagandhi album.

I loved it for the first month or so, but the more I listen to it the more it seems like they put out Supporting Caste just to put an album out. I tried listening to it yesterday and got maybe halfway through.

i've listened to it consistently since it came out. their music has so much more re-play value than 99% of the bands out there.

LESS TALK MORE ROCK 4 EVAH! Seriously, they will never top it. Still love that album... they need John K Samson back to soften their hard tendencies and pop em up a bit. Too hardcore/metalcore/whateveryoukidscallit for my aging eardrums.

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theproblemwithfire (January 2, 2010)

NO. John and Propagandhi are best apart from each other. LTMR is a great album but not because of John.

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greg0rb (January 2, 2010)

Back in the day I always thought John's songs were the weakest and I think they still kinda are the weak tracks on those first 2 albums. And I love Weakerthans, I'm not saying break them up. But I think he probably had an effect on Chris' songs and the overall band's sound as is evident when listening to the difference between LTMR and TETA. Their 'new' bass player, whatever his name is, just made them sound like Good Riddance (or something, I dont know melodic hardcore or whatever) and his bass sound was too rough/clangy. Anyway, just my opinion. Also, they were funnier when John was in the band.

it's solid from beginning to end.

for all the people who are consistently saying "it won't stand the test of time" what the hell is so great about anything they put out before this that needs to be replicated time after time? i have been into these guys since htce, but at some point you realize that is the record that you pick and choose from.

In terms of musicianship, Supporting Caste is the best album on the list. By far. It's basically what they were trying to do and came up short with Potemkin. It's all about the Beave! How can you listen to the one-two hit of the first two songs and not be just blown away? Every time I listen to this album, still, I get a big stupid grin on my face because it blows me away how fucking good it is.

I'd do her.

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Deadpan (January 1, 2010)

Even with a beard

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ahopeagainsthope (January 1, 2010)

Especially with a beard.

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chadreligion (January 2, 2010)

she's looks pretty doable here
http://paramorefans.com/img/NME-Coversmall.jpg

Dude, hadn't you heard? She's been listening to super hardcore shit like Simple Plan and H2O lately.

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thus_spoke_Sean (January 1, 2010)

"she doesn't know it's a band, she just really likes water" is my all time favorite LOL moment from the 'org.

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greg0rb (January 2, 2010)

Where is that from? Link it duder.

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thus_spoke_Sean (January 2, 2010)

i have forgotten how to link directly to the comment in question, but it's not too far down:

http://www.punknews.org/article/28354

DIsagree.

I'd say yes if I didn't like Dear Landlord so much.

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i_rock_hard (January 1, 2010)

dear landlord is TERRIBLE.

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ahopeagainsthope (January 1, 2010)

Well isn't that an edgy statement.

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

You know what's terrible? The fact that somewhere out there is an abortion doctor didn't get $800 from your mom.

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i_rock_hard (January 2, 2010)

You know what's also terrible? Your grammar

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iorek (January 3, 2010)

I think you mean grammer

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ElVaquero (January 2, 2010)

so i'm not the only one who thinks this...

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MN_DrNick (January 1, 2010)

It was a toss up between Dear Landlord and Banner Pilot for me on who had the better album this year. The coin said Banner Pilot.

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

It was that close for me too. But I felt the lyrics on Dream Homes was more relatable to me.

Collapser is amazing, but Propagandhi still beats it out slightly

Collapser is top 3 at least.

High fives on Propagandhi.

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ahopeagainsthope (January 1, 2010)

High fives for low lives?

collapser is kind of boring. 4 good songs and the rest blend together.

fuck me, i guess.

agreed about supporting caste. (i feel that way about propagandhi in general)

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ahopeagainsthope (January 1, 2010)

Yep, fuck you.

I gotta say, I am mildly disturbed about the lack of Future of the Left. I haven't listened to the new one enough to place it in my top-ten, but Paramore? Really?

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eran_zombis (January 1, 2010)

as the spokesman for the collective org, i would say that Andrew Jackson Jihad would be a more likely candidate to replace paramore than future of the left. too british, ya know?

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ffwoodycooks (January 1, 2010)

i agree. while i like the future of the left album more, i was more surprised by the absence of AJJ.

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

I thought that was a shoe-in with all the collective loads dispersed.

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cant_hurrdly_what (January 1, 2010)

Welsh, fucker.

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ffwoodycooks (January 1, 2010)

well, Falco is actually british so, i let it slide

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eran_zombis (January 2, 2010)

I'm too American to know the difference.

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ElVaquero (January 2, 2010)

wales is in britain, idiot

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wonton (January 1, 2010)

I'll agree with woodycooks on this one. Collapser has a few songs that i absolutely fucking adore, but the sounds blends too much.

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ZachLeg (January 1, 2010)

I've always liked Pass The Poison more than Collapser.

Also, FUCK COASTER!!

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sleepwalker (January 1, 2010)

Agreed 100%. If not for Nofx, this list would be perfect.

You had me until Future of the Left.

Yeah. That's on my list of full lengths of the year.

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thepopeofchili-town (January 1, 2010)

Same here.

This guy has a damn good list.

I know! Can't Maintain was by far my number one this year.

The EP list is pretty solid though.

i have no idea! saw them in june and ever since ive been loving their music.

i dont think anyone even mentioned it in a previous list.... shame

They were sold out when I saw them during the spring

It's on my list, silly.

http://www.punknews.org/review/8919

i liked the new rancid more than most people. i actually enjoyed it more than the 2000 self titled, life wont wait, and indestructable.

coaster was also pretty good

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nick_s (January 2, 2010)

Nofx just release consistently good albums, there's nothing outstanding about any of them but they're always good.

I agree that the new Rancid album is better than indestructable, but 2000 and life wont wait? not a chance.

That's a good question, it really seems like it lately doesn't it?

I didn't get Weight of Air. I admit to not giving it much of a chance, but I thought they sounded like the Copyrights or something. But I don't really listen to them, so I just chalked it up to that and moved on.

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ZachLeg (January 1, 2010)

I thought they had a great sound on So Long, Soggy Dog. I listened to it constantly when it first came out. I was sad when they changed their sound, but I guess all bands do it eventually.

Speaking only for myself - I'm totally fine with it. It's a good reminder that the Org is not some unified "We love X Y and X band" and "Hate A B and C band" kind of place. Even in the comments here you can see a wide spread of opinions on the various albums. Diversity of opinion is always a good thing.

-Justin

ps: In 5 years all your favorite bands' albums will sound like "The Weight of Air."

Agreed but I'm okay with offense

That's because we're the heart and soul of this godless website.

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greg0rb (January 2, 2010)

I forgive your harsh words.
Yours in Christ,
Greg0rb

Glad it came last though, because its clearly the most predictable list with the exception of Paramore and a surprising exclusion here and there. But I think those are likely to be artifacts of a fluky system of tabulating the list which probably regresses everything to the mean.

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fuzzy (justin) (January 1, 2010)

It's also the most important one.

We're just 6-10 people. You folks are the ones who send in the news, read the news, write the reviews and read them. You rate the albums and let us know by ratings, comments and submissions what we should post. And the staff are all avid readers of the website - and have been for years.

-Justin

Well that record is probably the worst, so you are an asshole.

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TheMike (January 1, 2010)

"you are an asshole."

Thanks, I get that a lot.

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

It's not the worst. How many times do you listen to Finding the Rhythms? Personally I like Forever and Counting the least. But NWN is not bad by any means.

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yousurewearpantsalot (January 2, 2010)

I listen to finding the rhythms all the fucking time. my personal fave after push for coin

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returnofdebs (January 2, 2010)

without a doubt it's their best.

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ElVaquero (January 2, 2010)

"Well that record is probably the worst, so you are an asshole."

I think this the prototype for all discussion on the internet

It's a good record. Not my favorite, but it hits all the right spots sometimes.

I'm assuming you're a big fan of the Draft, then?

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TheMike (January 1, 2010)

I like In A Million Pieces, but it feels really front loaded. I found some of the songs in the latter half to be a little unimpressive, but I figured it would be a little uneven since it was the first album without one of the primary songwriters.

Their best album I forgot the name but it has "Lo Zee Rose" on it...

There Are Already Roses is in my top 3 HWM songs.

I fucking love that album. So much.

http://c2.api.ning.com/files/9OGnwofs-1I35rFwsuFwD6HATsZjzTW*EbC A1673Ilq6bwo0lzsLfcIAvwncXop9leD0nMA0Rf9Mh3-IGiIUMu6OQbIxIfXm/gtf o4.jpg

cobra skulls suck

/dumb opinion

Yep, I fell for the bait.

I'm indifferent.

I don't agree. But I have only listened to American Rubicon twice since it came out.

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ElVaquero (January 2, 2010)

me too, did not grab me. even "back to the youth"

I feel the same way. It's like I'm taking crazy pills every time I visit BSC or the Org.

lemme rephrase this.

Cobra Skulls play really annoying music that I find uninteresting.

they are obviously competent musicians

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victim (January 1, 2010)

yeah, I totally feel the same. Overall I'm indifferent since I just don't listen to them

I'm glad someone that wasn't me said it. Because everything I say sucks get written off. A tip of the cap to you sir. They truly are a bore.

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ffwoodycooks (January 1, 2010)

i wouldnt say a bore. i did like them but, there was just a turning point a couple listens into the new album. now i cant stand them, they annoy the shit out of me.

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that_band_changed_my_life (January 2, 2010)

cheers to you getting into the 2010 release then!

I'm not a fan either, but to each their own.

I know, I don't get them either

Worst. Band. Ever.

They seem like one big gimmick. Almost like they're trying to hard. I've seen them live a few times and I still feel the same

Fake Problems I can deal with, I was glad to see that pretentious collection of posers The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart didn't creep on to this list.

yeah, it's decent stuff, but overrated as shit.

I guess you could say that about any band though

precisely what I said a year ago, met with nothing but derision. told ya'll.

I forget who said it on here about the "album cycle" dying and bands like the Souls were realizing this and releasing more frequently, but I don't think I've ever given less of a fuck about a new Souls record as I do now. It probably would've made my list. And to give you an idea, I was like brimming with anticipation for the Gold Record and Anchors Aweigh when they were coming around.

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shrapnel (January 1, 2010)

I would have preferred a full album release at once, rather than the month-by-month thing, but I got into the mind frame of just putting it together as a whole when all of the songs were released, and it's a great album

Guess what? I give a shit.

But I couldn't care less about the lives they choose to live.

It's gotta be boring in Connecticut.

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

No way. There's plenty of spinkicks and floorpunches to go around.

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ffwoodycooks (January 1, 2010)

im not defending ct in any whatsoever but............what?

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ffwoodycooks (January 1, 2010)

in any way whatsoever, that is

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

You guys have a lot of hardcore bands.

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ffwoodycooks (January 1, 2010)

we did a while ago but, not any more than anywhere else on the east coast.

but, to answer matt, yes, it is boring in CT.

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

I can't think of a CT band that isn't one.

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noah (January 1, 2010)

make do and mend
my heart to joy

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14theroad (January 1, 2010)

I don't know who that is.

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noah (January 1, 2010)

two bands from connecticut
that aren't hardcore, that I think people outside of CT know

I'm so conflicted by this list. It has Title Fight but has A Day To Remember at the top.

Hey, long-haired goon, that album (just like their last 5) fucking blows.

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theproblemwithfire (January 1, 2010)

thank you.

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iconoclast (January 1, 2010)

yes, thank you.

Yea, get a haircut hippie!

That Strung Out album is always a pleasant surprise. It's damn good, but completely forgettable.

I thought Monolith was really good, but not one of the best this year.

P.S.

Fuck you too.

Don't you hate pants?

I hear you also hate chocolate and summer and puppies.

every comment you make from here on out i will have to disregard as having any substance now that you included the bosstones.

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telegraphrocks (January 2, 2010)

Coming from someone who submitted news about Pete Wentz.... ha.

overrated? How about everything off of Red Scare

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victim (January 3, 2010)

Except for the Falcon, I think I agree

It's going to sound better in the spring / summer. They never struck me as a fall / winter band, but I don't know if that has anything to do with its overall ranking. Probably not.

It's the only real "orgcore" album to make my top ten this year.

I don't hate or like them.

I think you're far from the only person.

Wolfman has nards!

To me Bomb The Music Industry only proves that DIY can be overdone. It feels like hes trying to strike a balance where for every great song he serves up some utter shit to remind you how "DIY" he is by annoying the hell out of you

Goodbye Cool World was easily the best BTMI album to me

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sloanedaley (January 1, 2010)

yeah they are a band I chalk up to "not getting", it isn't the worst shit I've ever heard or anything and I respect how they do what they do but aside from a song hear or there it just doesn't come off as very enjoyable to me. Maybe I'll give them another chance.

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telegraphrocks (January 2, 2010)

"To me Bomb The Music Industry only proves that DIY can be overdone. It feels like hes trying to strike a balance where for every great song he serves up some utter shit to remind you how "DIY" he is by annoying the hell out of you"

Perfectly said!

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thegreatestmanalive (January 2, 2010)

I love BTMI! so im curious as to why you say "annoying the hell out of you" how? Also yeah Goodbye cool world i insanely good, as is album minus band.

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victim (January 2, 2010)

Well, I haven't listened to much BTMI this year, but the Tom Waits cover leaps to mind

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thegreatestmanalive (January 2, 2010)

Very true that cover is awful, but i kinda dont like tom waites that much either besides i dont wanna grow up. Fair enough but still, it ceases to be whining if your shitting blood is one of the best songs ever

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victim (January 2, 2010)

Incidentally, I wasn't downing BTMI, I think the stuff he puts out is ok mostly (but not Get Warmer, which was kinda terrible). I just don't think we need to be making it out like hes some iconoclast of punk music. Hes a guy who writes songs about (almost exclusively) his shitty life. The songs are all over the place and some of them come out sounding like a mess. Its to be expected, but I for one don't care to put it on a pedestal out of some phony "punk ethic" bravado

Don't say a word about Chuck until you can write his name correctly .. Great album, greater performer, greatest artist ever!

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sloanedaley (January 2, 2010)

Ragan I know how it is spelled, smellface.

You must've thought the list was in ascending order

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iconoclast (January 1, 2010)

you fools love to hate the best band around.

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victim (January 1, 2010)

I have more snarky answers to "right where they should be" if you just need to vent

Usually I am a total Froberg fanboy but Obits I just couldn't get into.

obits was a grower but i love it. i concur about reis and froberg, those dudes are heroic.

no Parasites?

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baldsteve (January 1, 2010)

It is top 20 not top 10. When I reach for a Parasites record, it's going to be Pair or Punch Lines. When I'm in the mood for an American Steel record I'm just as likely to reach for the new one as an older one.

I liked it a lot though. I need to order that Jetty Boyz record, have you heard it?

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victim (January 1, 2010)

What I heard of Jetty Boys had a real Green Day-ish vibe to it, probably closest to Insomniac

Yes! Thank you Steve for mentioning that Riverboat record. Top ten fo sho!

I really need to check out that Red Collar album since you guys won't stop jizzing about it.

you're wrong.

Pseudo-metal? I swear most of the punknews population fails to realise that all four current members of Propagandhi grew up playing speed and thrash metal, and probably view most punk loved on this site as a bunch of shit. I don't like to put bands on pedestals, but there ya go.

Though I completely LOVE Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes, I was cheering you on like a madman... up until your praise for BTMI!.
You totally got my exact feelings (minus your TETA opinion) on Propagandhi, but completely vomited all over them with your BTMI! masturbation party.

Tsk.

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ZachLeg (January 2, 2010)

Agreed on the BTMI! part. I finally decided to check them out this year. Extremely disappointed. It was a bunch of cluttered mess mixed with lyrics that seemed forced and crammed into parts where they didnt fit.

i didn't enjoy it much either. my favourite part is the 'humane meat', 'potemkin' and 'funeral procession' chunk of the album. bangers embrace is pretty good too.

i didn't dislike it, but by the end, i remember none of it, it just seems forgettable, and the songs seem too long now (even though iteration from PCL fuckin rules at 5 minutes length)

I haven't. Asides from the fact that I just don't post here a lot, I can't really think of anything to post

it doesn't come out as a collective album until the 12th of this year, besides it wasn't that great. Gold Record was way better.

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Blackjaw_ (January 2, 2010)

Yeah I really didn't like the songs at all. And I love How I Spent, Anchors Aweigh and Gold Record with all my heart.

If I actually put my Top Albums Of The Year in order, Ghosts On The Boardwalk would currently be at #4.
But, these things flip-flop with each other over time, so I just made a collective list, which does include the lovely Bouncing Souls and their beautiful collection of songs from 2009.

good to know I'm not alone in the homepage department.

Pulley's EP, Time Insensitive Materials should be on the EP list too, especially taking into account those guys are well-liked on this site.

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victim (January 2, 2010)

yeah, that is surprising. Can't say I'm a big fan personally though

Word. That album is amazing and if I were important enough to have a list, it'd definitely be in at least the top 3.

From someone who bought around 500 albums this year, Beggars proved to be the biggest waste of my money.

I'm a smartass... it was shit.

Aaaaahaha

I guess it's cause the dude in the picture above is being "zany" also.

Does he throw up the super finger when he is ranting at his shows?

You're apparently the only one that hasn't been reading any lists submitted over the last 6 weeks.

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Yossarian (January 3, 2010)

That is probably correct.

just because hes named blowhard, doesn't mean he'll to blow you .. or does it?

hey, that's not three lines...

Set Your Goals suffers from what I like to call "New Found Glory Syndrome".

What is that? Really good music coupled with a horrendous voice, thus making the music un-listenable.

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ahopeagainsthope (January 2, 2010)

Two horrendous voices in the case of SYG.

I could actually stomach it until Haley Williams popped up and started rapping. Credibility of that album flew out the window and never returned when that happened.

"Whoa whoa hey guys mind if I get in on this?"
"Hell yea!"
"Go for it!"

Always makes think a threesome is going to follow.

I too am distressed that the anonymous ratings system on punknews.org seems to be neither perfect nor, dare I say, scientifically sound. Through the combination of mathematics and sheer, decisive will, we can finally root out the cause of this inherently biased evil and determine once and for all what collection of punk rock songs was the most bestest of 2009 and bring a triumphant end to this vicious tyranny!!

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victim (January 2, 2010)

I'm going to just pretend that wasn't sarcasm

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chrisss (January 2, 2010)

That's probably for the best.

Gross, Lucero should never be number one.

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14theroad (January 2, 2010)

You're a madman.

Awesome, Lucero should be number one.

Methinks the rating system is engineered to get the more high profile albums on the list

I addressed this earlier, but I want to make it clear that we are using review volumes to decide things. The /amount/ of ratings is important in determining the popularity of records as well as the ratings themselves. If you didn't do this, you'd give too much important to a small number of positive ratings when it should be based on the highest number of high ratings.

In that sense, it's logical that high profile albums will have more ratings, since more people rate them. It's not engineered that way, it's the only way to make things fair.

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chrisss (January 3, 2010)

...but he made a spreadsheet.

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victim (January 3, 2010)

I made it sound too much like a plot on your part. What I meant by "engineered" was that by weighting review volume as heavily as it appears you have, higher profile albums get a big boost. By this metric I'm really shocked Green Day didn't make the list. I also think it makes the list end up reflecting what was "buzz worthy" moreso than what was the most popular. I do get that the big albums probably get more negative stars while most albums are only rated by fans..so that throws a kink into things as well

good call!

I thought the office was supposed to be a comedy

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MilesqtoasT (January 2, 2010)

stop being so outspoken

also why is it so long from side to side?

and THAT IS WHAT SHE SAID

and check and mate.

is So Many Dynamos a ska band?

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Cheesetits (January 2, 2010)

Not at all.

that teenage bottlerocket album was pretty good. Is poison the well still around? are they a holdover from your florida days?

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MilesqtoasT (January 2, 2010)

oh well you do like heavy stuff. That's not meant to be a dis I just remember them being pretty big amongst people in "the know" right before I went into my music blackout of '02-'08 and then I come back and no one mentions them anymore.

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Cheesetits (January 3, 2010)

It is a holdover, I was big into them when I moved to FL right after high school and Opposite of December came out. But I like their new sound a lot.

Oh man (and I'm not trying to be an ass here) I honestly think they should change their name to Dead Landlord. That's awesome.

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MilesqtoasT (January 2, 2010)

fuck yes good catch.

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Cheesetits (January 3, 2010)

Ha, yeah I never noticed that.

skankinfrank, you are the living end.

what up son

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MilesqtoasT (January 2, 2010)

what is up is the need for a victory manana.

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shrapnel (January 2, 2010)

I'm feeling good about it

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MilesqtoasT (January 2, 2010)

me too. as a minnesotan, that is what worries me.

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shrapnel (January 2, 2010)

Minnesota Vikings: Breaking Hearts Since '61.

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victim (January 2, 2010)

Favre's rookie year

Incredibly pretentious, but I thought it was great. Kaufman doesn't seem so adept at directing, though.

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MilesqtoasT (January 2, 2010)

that's exactly what I thought. Very self-serving and completely mirthless but I'm glad I saw it and it made me think/feel in a way no movie ever has.

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Misanthropee (January 2, 2010)

He's definitely at his best sticking to more-traditional narratives at this point. The film has this unfortunate, ironic real-life contingent in that he probably screwed up a lot of future opportunities by baking one of modern film's biggest and most narcissistic turkeys. A lot of people really hated that shit and it didn't make a dime, which sucks, because I'd love to see a more solidly ambitious Kaufman script with a giant fucking budget.

I haven't seen it yet but Roger Ebert listed it as his favorite film of the decade, so I'm definitely curious.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/12/the_best_film s_of_the_decade.html

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RobbyKills (January 3, 2010)

ooo most of these are pretty good choices

It had some really, really interesting and fantastic moments and the performances were outstanding.

Overall, however, it was a bit of a mess.

She reminds me so much of an ex-flame

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eazyd2 (January 2, 2010)

ew

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victim (January 3, 2010)

you have no idea

This is the first I've ever heard of this haha.
So uh...no?

I think she came out only recently.

NOPE. i did not know that. the only movie i liked her in was clerks 2.

PORCH MONKEY 4 LIFE!

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greg0rb (January 3, 2010)

I didnt know this either!! She was great in Curb Your Enthusiasm. 'You have a racist dog!' Or something. She's pretty good in Old Christine.

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ZachLeg (January 3, 2010)

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ಠ_ರ 267; rather good ol chap

Well it's your choice...