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Videos: Green Day: "Cigarettes and Valentines"

Contributed by jacknife737. Posted by aubin on Monday, August 30, 2010 at 2:00 PM (EDT)

At the Denver, CO stop of their ongoing tour with AFI, Green Day debuted a new song, "Cigarettes and Valentines." The song is the title track from the band's planned follow up to Warning which was scrapped when the master tapes were stolen. The band returned to the studio and instead recorded what would become American Idiot. The band noted they were recording a new live album, leading to speculation that some of the "lost" songs from the album would appear on the live album.

The band previous released a live album, Bullet in a Bible, in 2005.

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david5345 (August 30, 2010)

The Guts already did this.

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phillypunk (August 31, 2010)

Yes they did the same song title on the Album"LET It GO" but hey The Guts did get Ben Weasel to sing Love,Love,Love(Queers cover) with them on the album. Wish the Guts would have played the shitty Insub Fest this year. Regardless love both bands. Just one got me into punk back during Kerpunk while the other keeps the pop-punk going in the same fashion today. Just hope the next green-day to make it,well I wish them the best, not in the mood to rant.lol.

regreteverything (August 30, 2010)

Not ashamed to admit I'm still a Green Day fan, but man... Why are they doing such a lousy rendition of "Walking Contradiction"?

thedopamines (August 30, 2010)

Pretty awesome song!

Half_Idiot (August 30, 2010)

This is the first time I've been interested in a Green Day story in ages. I hope one of these days they drop the story about the "stolen" tapes and just release the songs.

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anarchy_now (August 30, 2010)

Agreed!

robalobadob (August 30, 2010)

Yeah, this is the first time I've heard of that happening. So, someone out there has a Green Day record that only s/he has heard?

bastard_squad (August 30, 2010)

Just release the alleged record. That song sounds straight off Insomniac. Better than that last abortion.

longshot (August 30, 2010)

I never bought into the whole "lost record" bit that went along with American Idiot. Even if tapes were lost, it isn't like they couldn't just re-record them. There's no shame in saying that your record sucked so you scrapped it and started over. Plenty of bands do it.

In any case, this one song is better than anything on their entire last record. It sounds like Nimrod shit and that's never a bad thing.

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mclz (August 30, 2010)

Agreed, this one song is better than all of American Idiot and the new record (from the few songs I've heard) and if the other tracks were like this, maybe it wouldn't have sold 10+ million records, but would have been a kick ass record.

drawing_dead (August 30, 2010)

they did say that. the tapes got "stolen" (dont believe it either) and when they went to re-record the album they all agreed the songs just weren't up to par and they could do better. So they did American Idiot which was completely different songs and sound in order the reinvent their careers and based on the comments on here "sound like nimrod, sounds like insomiac, sounds like such such" they made the right choice to scrap the album and go for something new.

Agree can never go wrong with Nimrod.

longshot (August 30, 2010)

This was slightly difficult to comprehend.

drawing_dead (August 30, 2010)

sorry i should proof read more often.

pricey123 (August 30, 2010)

yeh, very nimrod-sounding

klyph14 (August 30, 2010)

I'm glad they went to Comfort Dental Ampitheatre, a venue with possibly the worst acoustics ever, to record a live album.

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klyph14 (August 30, 2010)

Also any Green Day setlist that doesn't include this song is a complete failure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlumhaqILNo

FernoKlump (August 30, 2010)

How in the world would they get Barbra Streisand to tour with them?

robalobadob (August 30, 2010)

Heh... Prehistoric monsters are funny.

mill83 (August 30, 2010)

Gohhhddziiirrraaaaaaaah!

If the Decendents toured and they came to Denver, I'd have to think twice if the show was at Fiddler's Green presents Coor's Amphitheater Brought To You By Comfort Dental.

mill83 (August 30, 2010)

And in Godzilla: The Album's defense, it gave us No Shelter by Rage. That's a great fucking song.

ashtraymonument (August 30, 2010)

i don't understand bands that play there, when they could just play at red rocks

thepopeofchili-town (August 30, 2010)

I was there. They played this song twice in a row for no apparent reason. It was awesome.

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jacknife737 (August 30, 2010)

I would assume, that if they are indeed recording a live album, they'd want to make sure they got a solid version of the song? But who knows.

swank (August 30, 2010)

Sounds pretty good! Better than a lot of the stuff on 21 Century Breakdown.

Bob_Ice (August 30, 2010)

If you stole master tapes from Green Day, why wouldn't you bootleg them. Why else would you steal them? I call bullshit. And this song is no "Urban Legendary"?

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robalobadob (August 30, 2010)

"The files are IN the computer!?"

Deadpan (August 30, 2010)

Bullet in a Bible was such a terrible, masturbatory excuse for a live-album. And also the last Green Day record I'll probably ever buy. Maybe this will be better. Who knows?

nofxfan (August 30, 2010)

this sounds a lot like brat off of insomniac. also, the main riff reminds me of nervous breakdown

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Tonto (August 30, 2010)

The main riff reminds me of American Idiot for some reason.

nofxfan (August 30, 2010)

yeah i can hear that too now that i think about it

mikexdude (August 30, 2010)

"The Lost Record" must be an elaborate plot to write and play songs that sound like their old stuff, while they're contractually bound to write psuedo-classic rock songs for the radio.

Just kidding.

Tampa (August 30, 2010)

This Band Is Borrrrrrring!

xfallenx (August 30, 2010)

Finally! Interesting Green Day news!

Last week in Quebec City they played 6 songs off of Insomniac, and about as many from the Lookout era, so i guess they still care about the style that first won them fans.

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xfallenx (August 30, 2010)

And it sounds more like "Sick"

blackblackyellowblack (August 30, 2010)

this song is better than anything post-warning (maybe except for letterbomb, i have a soft spot for that song).

as for the live album, you remember that old joke with a guns'n'roses live dvd being two discs - the second one the concert, the first one with the crowd waiting for axl? this is going to be the same case - 15 songs dragged out for two hours. i said eee--oooo!!

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longshot (August 30, 2010)

Letterbomb is one of the best songs Green Day has ever written. Every time they played it live, Billie Joe would say that it was his favorite song off American Idiot. Makes you wonder why he didn't write more tunes in the same vein for that release. I know it woulda make for a better record.

dX927 (August 30, 2010)

except that they've been regularly doing 30 songs a night on this current tour

Dedricthere (August 30, 2010)

Get the "BJ" strat out and party like it's 1994 !

marko630 (August 30, 2010)

This is a much better idea:
Join this Group on Facebook to have Streetlight Manifesto cover "Jungle Boogie" by Kool in the Gang. Then, Green Day can rip them off too.

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/group.php?gid=1466322 75367258&ref=mf

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ZachLeg (August 30, 2010)

i hate streetlight manifesto but i back this hard.

jacknife737 (August 30, 2010)

I like the song, although i wouldn't quite claim it's better than all the songs on either AI, or 21st Century Breakdown.

It's got a sort of nimrod-esq: not sure if it's old or new, but i wouldn't mind if the band kept writing songs like this.

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kidgotham (August 30, 2010)

I agree. It is nice to hear a somewhat return to form.

That said, I liked AI. If it were not overplayed by everyone I think people would have much kinder things to say about it. It was ambitious and I think they nailed it.

Of course, due to radio, television, doctor's offices, grocery stores, dentists, mechanics, music stores and everywhere else it was played, I cannot ever listen to any of those songs agin.

kidgotham (August 30, 2010)

again.

jacknife737 (August 30, 2010)

Couldn't agree more about American Idiot.

I think I even caught my mom humming along to Wake Me Up: not cool.

mill83 (August 30, 2010)

Anyone who dont likes these band is a boring adult with a fat girlfriend.

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regreteverything (August 30, 2010)

Nailed it.

boring_adult_with_a_fatGF (August 30, 2010)

if i've missed any, i apologize. the girlfriend has me at the supermarket almost every day lately.

lookingforcorpses (August 30, 2010)

II always just assumed The Network was the "lost" Green Day album. They recorded an album that was a total departure, label says no, they release it under a different name and record a new one.

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regreteverything (August 30, 2010)

You know, I always assumed the same thing.
JYNX you owe me a coke.

jacknife737 (August 30, 2010)

I think there was a couple songs on there that may have been a green day song, like say Spike: but a lot of it was just too "out there" to be written for a standard GD album.

worryrock (August 30, 2010)

Green Day

af_punk86 (August 30, 2010)

I take no stance on weather the record was really stolen or not but I can definitely confirm that the story definitely pre-dates American Idiot. I remember reading an article in Rolling Stone from 2003 or 2004 all about how they had recently recorded a record but lost all the master tapes and had to start over.

StraightToHell82 (August 30, 2010)

Sounded cool.

loveshackbaby (August 30, 2010)

"The band noted they were recording a new live album, leading to speculation that some of the "lost" songs from the album would appear on the live album."

No fucking shit?

hijacknoise (August 30, 2010)

So, I would like to hear this "lost" album.

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