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Final News On Jim Cherry's Passing

Contributed by Sonikthehedgehog. Posted by adam on Monday, December 16, 2002 at 9:58 PM (EST)

with this update from Fat Wreck Chords "We have the final news regarding the tragic death of Jim Cherry this past summer. Although it was earlier reported that Jim's passing came as a result of substance abuse, the autopsy revealed that Jim's system was clean at the time of his death. Jim had a life-long heart condition which ultimately resulted in his death on July 7th. His family informs us that he suffered from hypertension and arrhythmia; and it was major blockage of an artery that eventually took his life while he was asleep. Jim was a big part of the Fat family as well as a member of Strung Out, Zero Down, and Pulley, and he will always be remembered for his passion and songwriting. He is greatly missed..."

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Someone (December 16, 2002)

Rest In Peace Jim. Thanks for your music.

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Someone (December 17, 2002)

.... Jim Cherry was a very nice person.

WussEmoRock (December 16, 2002)

is Jim the one who started Zero Down? rest in peace *****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

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Propagheny (December 16, 2002)

Yes. I liked their cd alot and his contributions in Strung Out and Pulley were awesome too. RIP

Someone (December 17, 2002)

Yeah, Zero Down was very good and I agree on his work with Strung Out. RIP sir.

DoItForJohnny (December 16, 2002)

thats fucked up that they said he died of a drug overdose before they had any idea what it really was

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punky (December 17, 2002)

it was most logical explenation...he had back problems and was using pain killers very often...

BrandonSideleau (December 16, 2002)

Fucking terrilbe man, I remember when the tragic news of his death was posted in the summer. I drove to work listening to Zero Down and thinking how awesome the band was and that they never will get the credit they deserve for how amazing that album is. I live in the town (a shitty town unfortunately) that he lived in and a guy I knew worked with him at Carpet Time and said he was a cool guy, but I never met him. I always liked Zero Down better than Strung Out, which I never really got into. But, I'm really wondering if they laid down any demos for a new album before his passing, I know they had plans to, but I'm not sure if they ever started. If so, it'd be cool to hear them.

Someone (December 16, 2002)

Just because he wasen't high at the time dosen't mean drugs had nothing to do with slowly killing him

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Jon_the_Skafather (December 16, 2002)

fuck dude! have some fucking respect for the dead. they said there were no drugs in his system at the time. maybe they're trying to make it so that he's not remembered as a junkie and instead as a musician?

Someone (June 28, 2003)

I remember him as an asshole...

Someone (December 16, 2002)

fuck respect If you take drugs you derseve to die

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Propagheny (December 16, 2002)

You are a complete idiot. Just because the guy made a mistake doesn't mean he's a bad person and it definitely doesn't mean he deserves to die, you shithead. Not to mention the fact that he struggled through his addiction and if this is true, he had the strength to realize his mistake and overcome it. Fuck respect? Fuck you. Do us all a favor and never post again.

jwood (December 17, 2002)

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Someone (December 17, 2002)

It's people like you that give straight edge a bad rap.

waste_elite (December 17, 2002)

that's the most idiotic thing i've ever heard

pope_schlomo (December 16, 2002)

Man Zerodown was the best thing to happen to the Fat roster at that time. He also helped in making Pulley's classic "@#!*", my favorite. RIP Jim. We miss you fella. Ramo

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punky (December 17, 2002)

Thats not Pulley's classic...Esteem driven engine was their classic...

punky (December 17, 2002)

He wrote some of the best songs for strung out...like firecracker and ultimate devotion.... R.I.P. big guy

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Someone (December 17, 2002)

Fuck, he wrote the 2 best strung out songs!

Someone (December 17, 2002)

as much as its incredibly hard to break a drug addiction, the guy had to be fucking stupid enough to start it in the first place. if his death was infact drug related i have very little sympathy for the guy if it was his heart, then it sucks.... but if it was the drugs, my feeling is that he committed suicide (which can never be justified)

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Jon_the_Skafather (December 17, 2002)

give it up, your point was lost the first two times you posted and no one has respect for you or your posting anymore on this subject so stop posting now.

Someone (December 17, 2002)

why dont you explain yourself instead of spitting out rhetoric my mother has smoked all her life... she has, for as long as i havew known, had a cough and has developed a bad case of athsma. now, as much as i love her, i still still blame all her smoking related problems on her. its no ones fault but her own. its not the cigarette company's fault for making them addictive or deadly.... and its not the governments fault for making them so easily available. it is HER fault. she started it and she didnt need to. however in her day smoking wasnt so obviously a bad thing. however, todays kids that start are just plain fucking ignorant and stupid. the same goes for drugs, if you dont think they will fuck you up and lead to your death, then youre too damn stupid to deserve my respect. "the one who repects stupidity should be reguarded as stupid themselves"

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Someone (December 17, 2002)

Whether it was a bad decision or not, it still doesn't somehow make the death of a relatively young guy any less tragic. Sure, it may not have been the best idea, and I'm sure you have never done anything stupid in your life, but not everybody is as perfect as you. He had a problem, lots of people do, but that doesn't mean they deserve to die for it. Asshole.

fraserhart (December 17, 2002)

fucking dumb straight edgers thinking they are so high and mighty cause theyre clean dont deserve respect in my book. what gives you the right to look down on someone cause they choose to do something you dont????????????????????

Someone (December 17, 2002)

im not straight edge at all. its called responsibility i drink alot... but never too much so that i would do stupid things. if i did drink way too much and started beating my girlfriend or something (a sober me would never think about doing that.... but you never know what will happen once you black out after drinking), i would hope that i would be punished severely for being such an irresponsible person. since i grew up in a poor ass nieghbourhood, ive been mugged and robbed many times.... becasue of this i have a very low tolerance for crime. so im sorry if i dont feel sorry for people who may have life a little tough.. i had life real fucking tough and i still fucking do. do you know what its like to work atleast 60 hours a week all summer while all your friends are out having fun just so that you can go to university and actually make something o

show rest of commentim not straight edge at all. its called responsibility i drink alot... but never too much so that i would do stupid things. if i did drink way too much and started beating my girlfriend or something (a sober me would never think about doing that.... but you never know what will happen once you black out after drinking), i would hope that i would be punished severely for being such an irresponsible person. since i grew up in a poor ass nieghbourhood, ive been mugged and robbed many times.... becasue of this i have a very low tolerance for crime. so im sorry if i dont feel sorry for people who may have life a little tough.. i had life real fucking tough and i still fucking do. do you know what its like to work atleast 60 hours a week all summer while all your friends are out having fun just so that you can go to university and actually make something of yourself? then when you get into school you can only get 4 hours of sleep everyngiht becasue you STILL have to work... AND find tiem to study. i really dont want to sound all high and mighty, but for fucks sake, im as lazy as they come, yet i am still able to get myself though a tough program at one of the best universitys in north america. if i am able too, why arent more people? but you know what, i dont even care about that. i have as much respect for the local "corner store" cleck that i do for a highly paid mechanical engineer. im not that foolish. however i only have respect for these people if they are doing what they want. if its a little boys dreram to become the owner of a pizza hut, but instead he becomes a junkie becasue "lifes too hard" - then hes lost mny respect.... if he works hard and becomes that pizza hut owner... then eventhough my job may be alot more important to society, i would never think to look down my nose at him.

Someone (December 18, 2002)

you are ignorant, sir. you're personal beliefs on ambition and work ethic are just your opinions. this is a man's death we're talking about, and you should show some respect. because in the end does it matter whatsoever what job you held and what career you aspired to? no it doesnt. even by your rhetoric you SHOULD be showing respect, since jim cherry WAS doing what he wanted to do in life- play music. and he did. his mistakes are just that. mistakes. as high and mighty as you think you are, you can't deny that you make mistakes. and theres no justice in saying that yours are less than his. so please just show some respect for jim okay?

Someone (December 17, 2002)

if you have no idea what you are talking about (which is obviously the case), please do everyone a favor and don't say anything. if it was a suicide, the doctors could tell. and there would probably be a suicide note.

Someone (December 17, 2002)

a friend of mine committed suicide a few years back... he left no note

Someone (December 17, 2002)

STRAIGHT EDGE comments annoy me... loosers have some respect rip jim

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BrandonSideleau (December 17, 2002)

I respect Jim very much, he was a great singer for ZD....but what would being a straght edge have to do with being a loser? I mean, they're in better shape and better health.

fraserhart (December 17, 2002)

yeah, and they look down on everyone cause they think they are so much better because of their choice

Someone (December 17, 2002)

im the one who posted right above you... and im not straight edge im just responwsible enough not to get addicted to anything that will kill me or lead to me harming others

Someone (December 17, 2002)

but did this guy kill himself from Drugs NO! "if god created plants and buds that i find and abuse then who the fuck are you to judge me" sound words

Someone (December 18, 2002)

i dont believe in god. but if i did, i would say something like maybe he put that stuff their to test us... see if we were able to fight our temptations. but in reality, if you know something will kill you, thyen why do it? becasue you may feel good for a while? go get yourse;lf a blowjob.. youll feel much better, haha and you wont die! and no this guy didnt die from an overdose.... but MANY do..... so my point is valid

The-Ice-Master (December 17, 2002)

Fuck you hardline kids. So he did drugs? Do you know what drugs do to you? If you don't, then shut the fuck up. A man is dead, a man who gave alot to you shitty little fucks. I met Jim and the rest of Strung out ages ago at this little dive in NYC, they were all great guys. The music was good, stop bring up his past demons. Let Jim RIP thanks bro

BrandonSideleau (December 17, 2002)

Everybodys got their own personal demons- you people need to QUIT bagging on Jim. So he did drugs....so what! I don't, but that was his issue, I've got my issues too, and you'e got yours. You people need to check yourself before you type shit. You're all just little "armchair warrirors" with atleast 10 lbs of excess weight who think they know what's good for these people who go out and put it on the line. Instaed of bitching about someone elses demons why don't you try to remedy your own. If you say you have none you're a fucking liar!

Someone (December 17, 2002)

If you don't do drugs, that's your thing. I DON'T and NEVER HAVE, BUT I also think that coming from somone who is obviously scared out of their mind to try it (and don't try and tell me otherwise, I won't believe it), you don't deserve to have an opinion about the people that do drugs and I'm talking about judging people not your drug philosophy, those are your views. Anyone who knows anything about psychology knows that drugs make you feel good, and your brain gets classically conditioned to using them because it provides rewards. Its something to be pitied not thought of as "I'm so much better than you, I don't do drugs." Drugs make you feel VERY GOOD. That's why people do them. Just because you don't do them doesn't make you better than anyone you self-righteous bastard.

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Someone (December 17, 2002)

girls rubbing peanut butter on their clits so that dogs will lick it off may feel good for them.... should i NOT be grossed out by that? drugs may feel good... but they can KILL YOU. do people not understand this? people can do whatever the hell they want... just as long as they are aware of the consequeces. smoke alot of pot, you will become stupid (you should see a friend of mine, hes "permafried" - very sad/pathetic (and im not affraid to tell him that)).... if you drink alot you will become stupid/addicted (you should see another friend of mine, he drinks alone every ngiht... also very sad/pathetic (and ive told him that many times)).... if you smoke, as long as you know that people will be pissed off at you becasue you smell,. and if you can live with yourself for deciding that its ok to die early (even though you kids may not agree) then fine live with it

show rest of commentgirls rubbing peanut butter on their clits so that dogs will lick it off may feel good for them.... should i NOT be grossed out by that? drugs may feel good... but they can KILL YOU. do people not understand this? people can do whatever the hell they want... just as long as they are aware of the consequeces. smoke alot of pot, you will become stupid (you should see a friend of mine, hes "permafried" - very sad/pathetic (and im not affraid to tell him that)).... if you drink alot you will become stupid/addicted (you should see another friend of mine, he drinks alone every ngiht... also very sad/pathetic (and ive told him that many times)).... if you smoke, as long as you know that people will be pissed off at you becasue you smell,. and if you can live with yourself for deciding that its ok to die early (even though you kids may not agree) then fine live with it (my mom came close once thanks to smoking... the feeling that i had becasue of that is enough to make it so that i could never do that to my kids). do hard drugs and you will become EXTREMELY fucked up and will likely die at an early age (thankfully i dont know anyone stupid or irresponsible enough to have done these... but if any of my friends started i would most certainly stop seeing them (after i asked them to please stop, of course). so thats my opinion about it all... do whatever you want, just dont fool yourself.. be aware of the consquences. if you feel the pros (feeling good/looking cool to your friends/whatever) outweigh the cons (losing the respect of your peers/commiting crime you never would if you were sober/LOSING YOUR LIFE)then be my guest and go for it... just dont expect me to be there when it comes around and bites you in the ass. ill be there at the beginning as its starting to try to make you stop... but if you keep at it i wont be sticking around. (that only applied to the drugs that will end up killing the person.... with everything else i will just hope they figure it out on their own (since its not nearly as hard to break an alchohal addiction as it is to break a heroin addiction) thats my opinion, im sorry if i seem cold or whatever, but thats the way it is and im willing to bet most people would agree with me (not the bleeding heart leftists on this website... but people in the real world).

Someone (December 17, 2002)

I know I have many faults of my own and I don't think I am better than other people. I am not a straight edge either yet I agree completely with you. I had a good friend die this last summer because of his drug addiction. I also have seen what drugs have done to somebody else I love very much and am afraid that the same is going to happen to him. The only sympathy I have for drug users is that I feel bad for them that they don't have enough strengh or love for themselves and their families to quit. I think drug users are some of the most selfish people on earth because they don't think about anybody but themselves, not their families, loved ones etc...Other then that I don't have any sympathy for those who screw up their lives with substance abuse...it's sad and pathetic.

waste_elite (December 17, 2002)

you obviously have no concept of the power of addiction.

Someone (December 18, 2002)

FOR THE LAST TIME once youre addicted, yes its fucking hard... my mom wants to quit smoking so bad, but she cant. that is horrible, i agree but she was fucking stupid enough to start it in the first place. and also again, in her day smoking wasnt as obviously bad as it is now. now its hard not to know that it will kill you..... so my opinion of poeple who start now is MUCH worse than h0ow i feel about people who started back in the day. same goes for drugs. maybe in jims day heroin and crack or whatever he was hooked on wasnt so obviously bad (which i doubt... but maybe)... so maybe hes not as stupid as im saying... but anyone who starts not is a fucking moron and will lose my respect completely

Someone (December 18, 2002)

it is extremely selfish, you are absolutly right. thats one of my main problems actually. how can you do that to your family? can you not put yourself in others peoples shoes and see how they might feelif you were to die or get all fucked up? i would feel horrible to see my kid turn out liek that, so becasue of that, i would never think about doing that to my own mnother, let alone everyone else i know. no matter how bad things may seem... absolutly nothing is wrose than the nothing you would experience after you died (and if yoiu believe in religion, killing yourself will only take you to hell.... soi thats no good either)

waste_elite (December 17, 2002)

"not the bleeding heart leftists on this website... but people in the real world" hmm, ok. by showing some sypmathy towards a man with a drug problem we are "bleeding heart leftists" who don't live in the real world. nice neanderthal logic there.

Someone (December 18, 2002)

my point is that if i felt sad about every person whom i never heard of (i have never even listened to his music) then id be a sad sad person..... and since many of these rockstars who od are JUNKIES, i think i should feelk even less than i do for some old granpa who passed away in his sleep.

waste_elite (December 17, 2002)

some of you guys are stupid assholes. yes, i agree, using hard drugs is not an intelligent thing to do, but why act like you are superior in any way to people that use them? people fuck up, people get in over there heads and get trapped in the cycle of addiction. how does that make them stupid or bad people? spare me your self-righteous, uninformed rhetoric here, please. wait until someone you know or love becomes addicted, just fucking wait. let's see you tell your best friend that he's an idiot and deserves to die. "the one who repects stupidity should be reguarded as stupid themselves" we aren't respecting his drug use, we are respecting him as a musician and as a fucking human being you heartless bastard.

irish_joo (December 17, 2002)

what songs did he write for strung out?

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TJmoney (December 17, 2002)

Ultimate Devotion, Firecracker, Bring Out Your Dead, Mind of My Own....I think he did those ones plus alot more.

Someone (December 19, 2002)

Great songs!!! We miss You, Jim... Igich from Croatia.

Jon_the_Skafather (December 17, 2002)

everything kills you. everyone dies. this person happened to have died before his time. if you ever have a heart attack or die some death before your time, i'll make sure to laugh at your death because you drink alcohol. i hate drugs but i still have respect for this man. i have fucking good reason to hate drugs and i still don't talk shit about jim. you're just a fucking holier than thou prick.

el_provocateur (December 18, 2002)

Good God! Jim Cherry was such a noble, versatile human being and his stuff in Strung Out and Pulley was just phenomenal... There's a huge void in the punk world now with his passing, unquestionably...

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