Dale Nixon WAS Greg Ginn on My War........

OK, now we know the support, who's actually gonna be in Flag for these shows?

i'm seeing mike v this weekend, is he cool?

good riddance ahh

Didn't Brian Baker call himself "Dale Nixon" on the Epitaph Dag Nasty reunion? --Cos

No henry.... No flag

Dale Nixon is a name that is often used so someone could remain "anonymous". When Brian Baker had his major label contract with Junkyard (ie. Probably couldn't play for another band under contract), he recorded for the 4 on the Floor album as Dale Nixon. So there is the chance that maybe it's someone else who has a record deal? Maybe Mike Watt? That would rule. Or it could be that no one confirmed yet or even just a trick to get people interested.

Wait........wouldn't this make the Rollins thing even MORE of a reunion than this? I mean, Rollins had...other than himself.....chuck, keith, and kira. Plus a slew of awesome special guests which had a lot to do with Flag during it's existence. What does Ginn have? Dez and himself. Dez is great, but no Rollins.

Goddammit, why can't Ginn just bury the hatchet with Rollins?

yeah on the sstsuperstore.com site, Ginn says that is the band, not the support. No Chavo,Morris, just a fucking skater on vocals. This is bullshit

those songs on my war require a lot of emotion vocal wise.....Something henry never came short of. I dont know about mike V

I heard the Greg Ginn solo shows featured a 'tape machine' playing the bass. I bet 'Dale Nixon' is going to be a tape of Greg playing the bass! What a bunch of bullshit. And My War is Chuck's Song! I want Chuck, Keith and Robo or Bill or I am selling my ticket. Fuck this shit. Black Flag turns milli vanilli!

Greg Ginn is and will always be Black Flag. He started the band and ended it. And though he could reunite the band basically with himself and anyone else and still be able to fairly call themselves Black Flag, it would definitely be nice to see a reunion of all former members. I mean, wasn't this thing called "The First Four Years"? Has the name changed? So although it may still be Black Flag...no Morris, Reyes, or Dukowski = no "First Four Years". Fuck, I'd still love to go though. Too bad I live 2,500 miles away.

So far it looks like Black Flag is gonna be: Greg Ginn: guitar, Dez Cadena: vocals, guitar, C'el Revuelta: bass and Robo: drums. Who knows who else may show up but that's the most I've come up with from the news and Ginn interviews I've read. SOMEBODY BETTER BE THERE WITH A CAMCORDER!!!

I think all the old skool punk bands should have a renunion like the misfits with gleen danzig vocals jerry only bass doyle guitar & robo drums & henry rollins should come back 2 black flag @ least one more time

the show was horrible! never thought i'd get fucked by BLACK FLAG!ginn sould change the name to BAIT SWITCH!

> (other than rick rubin saying ginn was > incredible - no one else said anything > positive about any of it) > > here's the most through note i've received... > > I'll start with the purchase of the tickets. > They were set at $27.50, but with Ticket > Master "service charges" the total came to > $41.10. This is by far the most I've ever > paid for a concert ticket, but hey, it's > Black Flag we're talking about, right? Well . . . > > September 12, 2003, Judgment Day. At this > point I've heard all kinds of rumors about > who will be up on stage. A month earlier I > was told by Chuck Dukowski that he wasn't > even asked to perform. A few weeks ago, Keith > Morris sent out an e-mail to let everyone know > that he was told his "services aren't needed." > So I'm expecting to be let down. > > I arrive at 6 pm and there is already a > massive line outside. I see people I know > from as far as Detroit and New Jersey waiting > to get in. Most of these people have Black > Flag tattoos, some of them have never been to > California before. I am informed that Robo > will be playing. I am also told that HR will > be a guest vocalist. I don't know what to > believe. > > The audience has its share of sketchiness, a > few LADS shirts, a swastika tattoo here and > there, but nothing to the degree that I > expected. The lobbies are full of booths set > up by animal rescue organizations. Most > people are indifferent. The first band goes > on at 7:30. They are called Mike V. & the > Rats, and they are okay at best. The guitarist > walks out waving a Johnny Cash poster. > Cash had died the day before. Some people > cheer. The Rats are basically imitating the > Damaged/My War era Black Flag sound, and Mike > V. is doing his best Rollins impression. Mike > V. says something like, "Years from now when > they talk about Dylan, Springsteen, Cobain, > Neil Young, and Cash, I'll feel honored to > have shared the stage with one of these > legends. And that is Greg Ginn. His tireless > attitude and perseverance have paved the way > for so many, and he will go down as one of > the greatest songwriters and guitarists > ever." They get some clapping in between > songs. Most people are indifferent. > > The second band is called 1208. They are a > pop-punk band on Epitaph who have only two > things in common with Flag: Raymond Pettibon > did the art for their album cover, and they > are from the South Bay. 1208 try to have as > little silence in between songs as possible, > but when the band does stop to tune, they are > met by a sea of booing. No one wants to hear > them. > > Finally Ginn is on stage setting up. On the > opposite side of the stage is Dez Cadena, > whose hair is half way down his back. Ginn's > drummer, named Drummer, is setting up his kit > which looks and sounds like it was salvaged > from a junk yard. There is no bass player, > but instead an SVT cabinet crowned with a > head and some kind of sampler. On top of the > sampler is a cardboard face with a huge > mustache wearing a real sombrero. This is > "Dale Nixon," a computer that will play bass > lines laid down by Ginn earlier. Dez grabs > the mike and says something to the > extent of, "There have been a lot of rumors > flying around about this show. I want > everyone to know that anyone who is not on > this stage tonight has been given the > opportunity to perform. Now we're going to do > the entire My War album, and Mike V. is going > to come out and sing." Mike V. comes out > again, and this time he is literally getting > a chance to do this best Rollins > impersonation, which isn't that great, but > not terrible. The whole band is keeping up > with "Dale Nixon," which only allots 2-3 > seconds before automatically going into the > next song. There is no time to tune. A few > songs into it, there is a group of men > towards the front who are shooing away and > flipping off what they see on stage. One of > them crowd surfs and gives two middle fingers > to the band while yelling obscenities. Someone > holds up a sign that reads "Bait Flag." A > large plastic garbage can is tossed towards > the stage, but only makes it to the front of > the audience. When the entire My War album is > played, there is a 10 second pause. 1/3 of the > audience is clapping, 2/3 is booing. I'm just > standing there scratching my head. Then Dale > kicks back in and they're playing "Black > Coffee." The second that song ends, Drummer's > set is broken down. > > For the next 15 minutes stage hands are > setting up Robo's kit. Robo is helping. A > bassist who I am told is C'el, the last > bassist for Flag, is on stage with an actual > bass. Dez has his guitar in hand, and says, > "This song is called Life of Pain." The band > plays and Dez is singing now. I still don't > know what to think, nor do most people. Half > way through the song, Robo totally forgets > his part, and it crumbles. Dez just starts > the next song, "Thirsty and Miserable." After > this, Dez takes off his guitar and grabs the > mike. Alright, this is it. They play > "Wasted," and the place goes nuts. Bodies are > jumping and swirling around. There is a huge, > scary slam pit. Robo sounds like he's rushing > the songs, and screws another one up. Dez > says, "This next song is called You Bet That > I Don't Care, which is a hybrid song > containing the verses of "I Don't Care" and > the choruses of "You've Bet I've Got > Something Personal Against You." The song > feels like a real attack on it's original > vocalist, Dukowski, and its original target, > Morris. They play "Louie Louie" and Robo goes > into an extended drum break. The rest of the > band leaves the stage. People are getting > uptight. Is this it? The band comes back and > finishes the song. They were doing a John > Bonham "Moby Dick" thing I guess. Somewhere > around this time, Dez says, "After all these > years, it's good to know who your real > enemies are." My friend and I look at each > other and shake our heads. What the fuck is > Dez talking about? After about 10 songs from > the first four years era, Dez says, "We'll be > back in 10 minutes. Don't go anywhere." What > now? > > Robo's kit is torn down, and Drummer's kit is > set back up. Great. Sal leaves the stage, and > the building. Now the line up is Drummer, > Ginn, Dale Nixon, and Dez on vocals only. > They blast through another 15 or so first > four years songs, with the computer pausing > only 3 seconds in between songs. Another > plastic garbage can is thrown towards the > stage, and misses again. The band butchers > "T.V. Party," and "Revenge." Dez comes in > late on most of the songs because he doesn't > know when the robot/computer/Dale thing is > going to hit it's first note. Everyone's > timing is off. The machine begins the > legendary opening for "Six Pack," but does it > twice as fast as it's supposed to be. Ginn > can't keep up on the opening guitar part. He > has trouble playing along to his own > recording. The band does some new Ginn jam > song, and Dez has everyone singing along > "FUCKED . . . UP!" Fucked up is right. After > a few more early numbers, I look at my watch, > and it is 10:59 pm. The lights in the whole > building turn on. The band is still playing. > They are doing "Depression" I think. A > stagehand informs Dez that they have to stop. > Dez tells the other guys to stop. Dale goes > into the next song, and drummer turns him/it > off. We all file out. > > I saw the Rollins Band do all Black Flag > songs just a year previous, and it was > incredible. Every song was played slower than > on the records, but the energy and the spirit > were there. What I saw on Sept 12 was not > cool. It wasn't bad enough to incite a riot, > but I couldn't get into it. I just kept > wondering when the band was going to screw up > next. Plus, there was this aura of > backstabbing and negativity surrounding the > whole event. It didn't feel right. What I saw > on that stage was not Black Flag.