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Propagandhi

Propagandhi: Less Talk, More RockLess Talk, More Rock (1996)
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On most albums, even other Propagandhi releases, there is at least one track which I find myself skipping time after time. Bands just can't help themselves. They just HAVE to bulk out their releases with sub-standard songs... And this is no exception. Why oh why was 'a public dis-service announcemen.
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On most albums, even other Propagandhi releases, there is at least one track which I find myself skipping time after time. Bands just can't help themselves. They just HAVE to bulk out their releases with sub-standard songs... And this is no exception. Why oh why was 'a public dis-service announcement from shell' included (smack bang in the middle of the album no less)? Fine, it's interesting, it makes a valid point, and it's humerous, but it ruins the flow of the album. This is the reason i bought a cd burner, so i could remove annoying tracks from otherwise BRILLIANT albums.

Okay, now i'm done complaining about that one little thing: onto the review proper...

"...And We thought Nation States Were a Bad Idea." is the song that introduced me to this insanely talented band. I liked it for years before i actually got this album, and as such it was the song around which the album grew on me. Like every single Propagandhi album, it's hard to get into. I'd reccommend a few days in your stereo on repeat before you pass judgement on it. Trust me, it grows on you.

The guy working in the record store who sold this to me was so excited when he was processing my purchase. He kept gushing on about how good they were, how good fast punk is. I guess you go a bit crazy selling people pop albums all day. The point is: if you like these guys, you LIKE them. If you like Propagandhi you probably already own this, and are probably only reading this to see what other people have to say about them. I'm writing this for you, sure, but i'm mainly writing this for people who are wondering if they should buy this album.

The answer is yes.

If you like punk, you'll love this. It's that simple. It may take time to work its way into your brain, but it'll happen, and you'll never be the same. You'll look back on the day you decided to take the plunge and thank whoever-it-is-that-you-thank that you did.

Now, the album itself. Except for the afformentioned 'a public dis-service announcement from shell', and 'the only good fascist is a very dead fascist', the album is a keeper. It'll never get old. Every track has a statement in it. The lyrics are amazing, and i'll never get over their ability to fit such detailed sentences into their songs.

The lyrics sheet is amazing also. You not only get insightful lyrics, but you also get mini-essays on many of the issues the band feels strongly about. This is a pre-cursor to the enchanced portion of their next release (today's empires...), and a very welcome addition.

Some songs which deserve special attention: 'The State Lottery', which sounds great, and (of course) has superb lyrics.

'Meat is Still Murder', which, at the beginning, is fast punk at it's best (though not as good as Back To The Motor League), and even if you aren't a vegan, still packs a punch lyric-wise.

The best lyrics of the album can be found in 'Less Talk, More Rock', which is good because it makes up for the slowness of the song.

For those of you into pop-punk, Propagandhi even cater for you here! 'Gifts', probably the trendiest song on the album, is still good, but as i say, it sounds poppy.

Finally, 'I was a Pre-Teen McCarthyist'. It has to be my choice as best song on the album. Not too fast, which allows you to hear the lyrics, and really shows off both the guitar playing and the singing.

Overall, it's a great album, and I would say their best to date (which makes it one of the best albums ever in my opinion). It's let down by some tracks which just don't belong, but the rest of it is so good it makes up for it and scores a perfect 10.

 

 
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blackflagrulez69 (July 20, 2014)

One of my favourite records ever. Just awesome, doesn't let off for the whole album.

bandgeekmafia78 (November 22, 2011)

"...Nation States..." is my all-time favourite punk song. The whole album is genius.

arejaypunx (October 22, 2010)

A near-perfect skatepunk record, loses points for the horrendously annoying and disrupting "A Public Dis-service Announcement from Shell", although I still like what it has to say. Smart, fast punk that often comes off tongue in cheek but always carries a strong message. when this album is at it's best it is pretty unbeatable.

kpave (December 3, 2007)

Great album, and to all of you commenting on whether or not religion is good, I think the point of this album was to get people thinking for themselves. Propagandhi provides an alternative point of view from mainstream capitalism. so, good for you, whether or not you like this band their point has gotten across

i-hate-winnipeg (October 14, 2007)

wellllllll, shit. amazing album :) i've spent weeks listening to just this album...

HeroineBob (June 6, 2007)

Fuck I spelt it wrong... OOPS

HeroineBob (June 6, 2007)

One of my favourite Propoghandi albums...

Hey_Asshole (April 14, 2007)

P.S.
the song is called "nailing descarte to the wall, (liquid) meat is still murder"

bornagainstcrackhead (October 11, 2006)

Great fucking album

kill_fftl (August 31, 2006)

you lose

Anonymous (April 3, 2006)

i may very well be, once again.

Anonymous (February 19, 2006)

You are not the last person to ever comment on this review.

Anonymous (October 24, 2005)

Hmm.. I may be the last person to comment ever on this review! Let me say this; TETA, and Potemkin City Limits take the cake. (The 2 that came before them were good too:)

Anonymous (August 11, 2004)

hands down best album every written

Tumble_weed (January 6, 2004)

:P probably the best cover art on a cd i got...

:D my sister got me this for my birthday...i asked her to get me How to clean everything...i don't think i should complain though...

Analog_Boy (August 6, 2003)

I donno much about less talk more rock. I wasn't into Propagandhi then, uhhh... this cd has some of the best cover art ever. Wow.

Anonymous (January 12, 2003)

Public Disservice is not a great song, but nor is it really a song. That being said, I think it serves as a great lead-in to Nation States.

Prop gets better with each album, this one is far superior to HTCE, but TETA makes them both look terrible in comparison.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

How to clean everything was awful.
Less talk more rock deserves a ten
TETA deserves a 15/10 or something.

Anonymous (July 11, 2002)

...ugh

waste_elite (July 11, 2002)

i always get then and than mixed up.

Anonymous (July 9, 2002)

i dont think Propagandhi should be blamed for all the annoying teenagers that jump on the bandwagon. Even if you hate them, prop. are talented and dare is say, smart. And the stuff they write in their album sleeves, thats given me furthrt ideas and points to read up on and learn about.BAH.

evildeadalive (July 8, 2002)

Is it just me, or does no one on this site know the proper uses of their, there and they're? I also notice a lot of people using then for than (not on this post , but on others). Just an observation, not trying to start shit... or am I?

Anonymous (July 7, 2002)

yo dude (were runnin dude into the ground here) i'm that dude that posted right b4 your last post. yea i get what your sayin its cool. i'm critical of the us govt. too, i'm not that old (22, but thats old for the punk scene it seems sometimes)what i meant by the '16 punk as fuck stage' was that back then and still today alot of punks, mostly younger but some my age just ignorantly bash america cuz its the punk thing to do, or cuz justin sane just told them on stage a buncha crap he read online or in michael moores new book "stupid white men"(buy that shit!)(fat mikes been doin this alot lately too). thats all i'm saying, some people that listen to politacal punk bands are very educated about what there saying or rebelling against or protesting, but some just jump on the bandwagon and have no fuckin clue what there hating on, outside of what they read in a propaghandi album, etc. thats why i dont' like political punk anymore. the reason i dont'like propaghandi is cuz their music all sounds the same to me and i dont' like there voices.i don't think your ignorant or anything. its good to be critical of stuff, blind acceptance is always lame, whatever ;u get my point.

Anonymous (July 6, 2002)

hello dudes, im that dickhead that screams FUCK RELIGION all the time! Ha, i read what yous said, and i take back my ignorance,i dont hate peeple who are religious i hate religion. Though im yet to be swayed on my beleif that god or a superbeing cannot exist, due to scientific reasons. I totally acknowledge i was/is pigheaded in what i wrote before. But behold, a comment i cannot ignore "if i was still 16 and in my 'i'm punk fuck america, fuck the govenment' dorkus malorkus punk stage. i'm beyond this shit. go read up on politics yourself" Excuse me Mr Grown-up, for some of us made ourselves born after you. I am highly critical of the US government, and i dont think growing up is going to change that, nor IF i tire of punk. And i listen to propagandhi, but does that i mean i dont read wider sources?mmno. IM A DICK!YEAH!FUCK ME!

Anonymous (July 5, 2002)

yea waste elite, i am the other agnostic dude that posted a few b4 u. i completely agree w/ u and i also lean towards atheism but its stupid to be completely sure of there not being a god or something like a god some higer power than us. its also stupid to be completey sure there is one.the dudes that say religeon is a fairy tale and fuck everyone who believes in it are just as ignorant as bible belt militant preachers that say gays are evil.like you, my parents are also religeous but dont' dislike gays ore anything. my mom basically just believes in doing good and that thers a heaven. thats bout it. makes her feel better,good for her. she was raised in a completely different time than us. but shouting FUCK RELIGEON is just as pigheaded as FUCK ANYONE WHO DOESNT BELIVE IN GOD!. think about it.oh yea, this album still all sounds like bad nofx after fat mike read a bunch of liberal literature and maybe some Nietchze.short crappy, uncatchy fat punk. the only redeeming song is still nation states and the only redeeming thing. i'd probably like this if i was still 16 and in my 'i'm punk fuck america, fuck the govenment' dorkus malorkus punk stage. i'm beyond this shit. go read up on politics yourself.

waste_elite (July 5, 2002)

it isn't impossible. you cannot prove it to be impossible. maybe there was/is some sort of supreme being out there, we can't know for sure. maybe he has no contact with us, maybe he is dead, maybe he doesn't even exist. as i said, i'm agnostic. i do, however, lean toward atheism.

Anonymous (July 5, 2002)

do you mean god as in some spirit or gost or dead but alive man somewhere in the sky or floating around or whatever? How can that exist? you dont need to be a scientist to know it is impossible. FUCK RELIGION.

waste_elite (July 4, 2002)

i'm agnostic because it is impossible to say that there is or is not a god. it's as simple as that. it is impossible to know whether he does or doesn't exist. why "choose a side" when neither side has any physical proof to back up their beliefs.

i have no problem with religious people who keep their beliefs personal. religion has helped many people on a personal level. my parents are religious. it's the dogmatic and militant fundamentalist sects that are the problem. believe whatever you want, just don't have the fucking nerve to say everyone else that believes differently is wrong and destined to burn in hell for eternity. these people are brainwashed. seriously, sit in on a "good ole bible believin' church" service and tell me i'm not wrong. women are inferior, gays are an abomination to god, and "liberals" are tools of satan himself. cue the chorus of "amen"'s and "preach it brother"'s.

don't think i'm just a cynical bastard. i would love to believe that when i die i will spend an eternity in bliss and harmony with my friends and family. sadly, it's just not that simple for me and most other people. i cannot believe it. i can't even force myself to believe. i am wired as a skeptic and if god wants to send me to hell for the way he made me, who's problem is that?

see, the christian philosophy has so many contradictions and holes. they try to make it so simple but it's not. if god is a god of fairness and love, then why does he send billions of good, decent people to rot in hell because they were never lucky enough to hear the message of the "good book". and why would he "save" murderers and rapists who happened to find a new testament lying in the prison library.

it's all bullshit. i am a product of that environment. these people do more to hurt their cause by preaching their intolerant and hate-filled propaganda than they do to help it. let them destroy themselves, it's fine by me,

Basket031 (July 4, 2002)

What can I say..... They just simple rule it!!! For me they are on of the 10 Best Punk Rock bands...

I hope they continue like that...

Anonymous (July 4, 2002)

i admire people who dont feel the need to have faith in a make believe airy fairy power, God, or 'presonal religion', or whatever. When people i love die, i know they arent flying around in heaven. I dont belive there is 'someone' looking after me, cos that 'someone' must have been in a coma for all the years i've been alive. There is no need to believe in it. We can live with the effects, if there are any, of NO RELIGION. But the effects of religion now is not worth the need to believe. Justifications for wars, oppression of women,violent conflicts and it all results in bloodshed.
"they cna't sing and the lyrics are pompous adn arrogant as they flaunt their intelligence" HA HA, that's funny. but i like propagandhi.

Anonymous (July 3, 2002)

a life w/o convictions is pointless? its been my experience that staying to concrete in your beliefs leads to a lack of ability to change, or accept multiple viewpoints of a topic/viewpoint.i dont' dislike people that are religious or not, as long as they dont' use their religeon to judge other people. go shoot yourself. i'm still agnostic bro.i dont' choose sides. i'd rather mediate.this album still only has one good song. nation states.

Anonymous (July 3, 2002)

fuckin dammit you people are so stupid.

Choose a fucking side. You either hold a belief in god (theist) or you don't (athiest) - Agnosticism is an empty term. If you are holding out for proof of a god you are an athiest. You don't yet belive there is a god - absence of belief (athiest - if I need to spell it out for you fuckers). If you believe there is a god but humans can't know him - you are still a theist. Just choose a fucking side. You are allowed to change your fucking mind.

Oh yeah and shoot yourself while your at it - a life without convictions is a shitty one.

Anonymous (July 3, 2002)

i just posted. i'm against organized religeon, but a personal religeon can be all good, is what i'm saying.

Anonymous (July 3, 2002)

i'm gonna take the agnostic stance on this one. i dont' think anyone can say for sure that there is no god, or higher life force (like the force), or nature or something that can be considered a god, or evolution of our minds will play a virtual eternity in our brain at the time of death. then evolution could be considered a god, or higher power than you. well we know it is, were just a couple of fuckholes w/ computers.but in anycase i think religeion is kinda a bummer and causes alot of problems. some people (like my mom) are very religeous but open minded. i don't htink it makes her stupid or ignorant. she was raised that way, she's totally dope and likes the punk rawk and shit, but she believes in god. its ok. she doesnt persecute anyone. she doesnt go to church to much. she just has her own faith and beliefs that help her stay strong. personal religon like that isnt weak, or ignorant, if its helpful then go ahead and have a personal religous dogma free relationship with god. if he exists or not. 'the process of belief is an elixer when your weak'...well whatever greg graffin.if it helps some people w/o making them assholes then wheres the harm. its nice to think your relatives are in a better place or someone is looking out for you.i dont' personally believe in god, but i cant' say for sure and i can't say thers not a higer power than me.and this album still all sounds the same, they cna't sing and the lyrics are pompous adn arrogant as they flaunt their intelligence. fuck these canucks.

Anonymous (July 3, 2002)

i can help you waste elite- there is NO god.I agree totally with you. Get any believer to define what is god to them, and it just cant exist. Religion is the source of too many conflicts that result in inesarcery( i knnow i spelt that roong) deaths. We can stop preaching and saturating kids with religion in schools and eradicate religion from the face of the earth. That'll clear up a whole lot a conflicts and opression and whatnot. FUCK RELIGION! YEAH!

waste_elite (July 3, 2002)

of course we would be better off without religion. do you realize how many people have been killed in the name of religion. more than you can count. and if you believe the bible is true, then god has killed millions upon millions of people himself. yeah, "god is love" alright. if love means sluaghtering millions of people for not believing in him and annihilating everything on the face of the earth with a flood. god kills more people than satan does in the bible. hell, i don't think the bible mentions satan killing anyone. so who's the evil one?

maybe there is a god, i don't know. i plead agnostic. but if there is a god and he is the same god mentioned in the bible, i want nothing to do with him.

faith is the death of intelligence

Anonymous (July 3, 2002)

right on waste elite. Religion is innesseary, i know i spelt that rong and that. If we started breeding kids now without religion we'd be a lot better off. We really would.

Anonymous (July 2, 2002)

Dude, i think this cd is absolutely amazing. Music is awesome, lyrics are awesome, and just fuckin makes me all happy inside when I listen to it (even though everything there singing about can bring richard simmons into a period of depression). Definately a buyer, I love Propagandhi's music, well, the songs where chris isn't yelling like a banshee.
-Mike

tgarn (July 2, 2002)

Its an idea called "faith" waste elite.

Anonymous (July 2, 2002)

I was gonna buy this album the other day, found the CD cover in the store, went to the counter, but they couldn't find the damn CD. I downloaded a few songs though, and jeeez, this is gold.

Anonymous (July 2, 2002)

all propaghandi songs sound the same and have really no flow to them. they can't sing either. but lyrically their educated but so what.if i want to read intellectual political leftist shit i'll go to the library. this crap is crap. hahaha, now i'm the clever one!

Lunk (July 2, 2002)

"but where exactly does this song show off the guitar playing? This is one a this easiest guitarparts Propagandhi has ever written."

-since when did 'difficult' equal 'good'?

waste_elite (July 2, 2002)

religion is for the weak minded

i fucking hate the fundamentalist christian movement more than anything in the world. i spent my childhood in a fundamentalist church and school. these people are just stupid. there's no nice way to say it. they are so incredibly brainwashed and naive, it's unreal. i could go on for hours...

how anyone could believe every word of the bible as fact is beyond me.

Lunk (July 2, 2002)

"this is tom delonge from blink-182's favorite album. does that make the album uncool?"
-Just because your produce shit does not mean you like it.

When i said 'gifts' was poppy, i meant it SOUNDED like pop-punk (like, musically). Most people can't understand the lyrics anyway, so the truth would only sink in after reading the lyrics, and by then it'd be too late... they'd be hooked!

Anonymous (July 1, 2002)

propaghandi are the most god awful band ever. its shit like this that makes me despise 'punk'. these guys preach more than anyone in religeon. its anti flag w/ big words. go back to canada.

Anonymous (July 1, 2002)

yes

Anonymous (July 1, 2002)

this is tom delonge from blink-182's favorite album. does that make the album uncool?

Anonymous (July 1, 2002)

Why do so many people like religion? Are they really that dumb? Yes

Anonymous (June 30, 2002)

haha, nice description of religion. Propagandhi by the way is very good.

punky (June 30, 2002)

I'm not a band, and i hate religion...
Religion is like a fart, yours is good, but everyone elses stinks...

fakesmile (June 30, 2002)

I dunno how many, but together with issues about "this piece of the world is ours too" and religion are responsable for most of the wars going on on our little planet. So being anti-religious is not something weird. Still, most bands are not against religious people, instead they attack religious authority and surpression...
They just try to make religious people think about what they are believing in...

Anonymous (June 30, 2002)

why are so many punk bands anti religious? Is it really that bad? No

Anonymous (June 30, 2002)

why are so many punk bands anti religious? Is it really that bad?

sickboi (June 30, 2002)

I used to not like Propaghandi. Aside from the lyrics they used to sound just like NOFX/Lagwagon/(insert older Fat band name here). They have progressed greatly.

punky (June 29, 2002)

Propagandhi is by far my favourite band, but I just can't choose the best record by them.
How to clean everything had the best music...Less talk more rock had the best lyrics and the best booklet, and Todays Empires, Tomorrows ashes had all the speed that I want...
Propagandhi rocks...

4131 (June 29, 2002)

two*

4131 (June 29, 2002)

how in the hell do you see "gifts" as a trendy song? have you ever read john's lyrics to it (or any of his songs, weakerthans included)? they are fucking brilliant. It was a shame to equalley talented but incredibly different personalities couldn't find a way to stick together (chris and john) but it doesn't matter, todd the rod is a better fit and a great bassist to boot. Anywho, back to my point, John Sampson never wrote a trendy song, and gifts is no exception.

4131

Anonymous (June 29, 2002)

Only thing I disagree with, Only good fascist is a very dead fascist is a fucking good song.

Anonymous (June 29, 2002)

About "I was a Pre-Teen McCarthyist":

"and really shows off both the guitar playing and the singing"

I love this album and this is also my favorite song, but where exactly does this song show off the guitar playing? This is one a this easiest guitarparts Propagandhi has ever written.

Anonymous (June 29, 2002)

_todays empires tomorrow's ashes_ is the greatest propagandhi album. this is a close second.

Anonymous (June 29, 2002)

how to clean everything is the only propagandhi album anyone needs.

Anonymous (June 29, 2002)

Their weakest album so far. But the title track, with its lyrics ("Did I tell you when I was nine/I tried to fuck a friend of mine"), is absolutely priceless.

--Cos

tgarn (June 29, 2002)

Well. seeing that we argued about politics on the NFG review, we should probably argue about current clothing trends and to get girls on this review.

Anonymous (June 29, 2002)

I would have to disagree and say how to clean everything is better than this. Thats my opinion.

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