>hbwlons (November 8, 2012)

>The new, purely metal, propaghandi record gets a 5 though...ugh.

Lol, it is not purely metal, have you ever listened to any hardcore punk from the late 80's and early to mid 90's ? That kind of hardcore was called fucking crossover thrash for the most part, which is still punk. Yeah songs like "Things I Like" are totally metal man, Reign In Blood 2.

Even if it was purely metal it's no reason to compare it with this album, look at my rating I like it too, those 2 bands are essential to to my formation as a human being, who knows what would have happened if i didnt have an older cousin working for HMV (canadian music store) when I was 13, I probably still would be working in the science field, but I would be a drab, boring, and probably right wing person, probably working at Environment Canada and taking the bribes to continue to deny climate change....anyway, say whatever you like, nofx is probably more responsible for turning people into things that matter than all of them new fest gay ass bands, notice that the word gay here was thrown as in the....do I need to explain, it's like people who don't understand how 72 hookers is about if everyone wasn't frustrated sexually and love was dominant war would be fucking out of the way. You're too "down to earth" and "oh my god, ISMS" to notice that though.

Also everybody saying So Long and PIB are the best nofx albums, please stop, best albums liberal animation, white thrash, then a big 10 years of riding on the popularity white trash created with a couple horrible boring albums (heavy petting zoo and pump up the valuum), 2-3 good songs on those and that was it, they acknowledge it too, especially Hefe who's probably the guy I like the most in nofx, he lol'd at fat mike about the Ben Weasel thing...and then war on errorism was so good it brought them out of the punk circles for real and many people who aren't punkers still find that album awesome, it built on the horrors of Reagan 2 and the rise of fundamentalism and was an excellent soundtrack even for the newer kids who arent necessarily punk but who might as well have became punk after hearing that one. And as for the rest of their career I find that they keep the machine well oiled and tune it up so it stays well above the average melodic hardcore punk/whatever dozen styles they play (nobody plays like nofx, (tons tried), like nobody played like the dead kennedys (and thankfully nobody tried, it would be so fucking obvious if somebody went around being a guitar virutoso in a punk band like EBR).

I lost my train of thought, I think, I reviewed their progression since the 80's and I went on many tangents, because i'm a drug addict even if i keep a successful job in the field of chemical engineering (legit, and not big pharma, those fuckers need to die, research pharmacology for the government and previously main chemist in one department of a generic meds company), but I sure do like my Dexedrine.....this morning I took too much according to what my prescription says. Sorry. :)

I liked this album a lot. Best NOFX record in the last 10 years. Musically, lyrically, a huge improvement following both Coaster and Wolves In Wolves Clothing.

Easily not their best album but its way better than coaster. I like the fact that every song here is punk, no weird sounding experimental song here. And most are pretty serious which I like more. Pretty solid album I'm completely satisfied spending 10 bucks on this one

You guys have to go back and listen to Punk in Drublic again. It's not all that - you were just in high school and it brings back fond memories. Truth is, the last two NOFX albums have been really good. Self Entitled is a great album. And as for this review, anyone that's going to get offended by NOFX songs is not allowed to review NOFX albums. Go away.

My last comments...i had come home pretty drunk, so tsk tsk to me for attempting to communicate anything in that state. Anyhow, thanks for linking that interveiw, its the most interesting one i ve read on this record.

Definitely dug this record. Fat Mike shared some interesting thoughts on it today in this interview too. He says choruses are cheap. Yeah. Super cheap. http://www.theinertia.com/music-art/interview-fat-mike-nofx/

Oh wow, intellectualretard has suprisingly....a dim opinion. Turn this music up, its honest, funny, concise, and punk. I love smelly, imo, thats great punk drumming. Mike is, as usual, tight, and tasteful on bass, and Hefe clearly has fun. My only cut would be "one jealous" cause its slow and just sucks...not suprised its popular here. Thankfully X Mas is incredible to follow.

The new, purely metal, propaghandi record gets a 5 though...ugh.

Turn up " Down with the Ship", its the best tune NOFX have recorded since " K-Hole".

i have to say i was also disappointed by the album. something felt off with a lot of songs. still better than a lot of things though. i don't get why people dislike coaster and wolves so much though. there are some songs on those albums that are so amazing. like suits and ladders or wolves in wolves clothing. those are some great tracks.

Awww were you (the writer of this) upset that NOFX suggested sending hookers over seas to stop wars? Did it put you off? maybe you should write reviews for One Direction or Nickleback, Their music is much safer and wont offend you at all. I cant imagine what you would write in a Misfits or dayglo abortions (just to mention 2 bands) review. You would probably need post traumatic stress counseling. This is punk rock music, its supposed to be offensive so to suggest that this song reflects what the band really thinks is a solution is fucking stupid! As for my view on this album, I really like the flailing sloppy sound of NOFX and even though this album sounds quite a bit tighter i still love it!

Bad review, great album, up there with thier best.

I disagree with this review on just about every point. It's their best since SLATFATS and probably one of their best albus they've ever released.

After listening to the album a few times through I realized its the same NOFX we have all enjoyed, allot of the same messages are still there albeit alot subtler.

It's better than the last two records, but still not on par with the level they set earlier in their career. Hope they can get there again.

Way better than people are saying. After the last track, I had a huge smile on my face all day. 4/5, not NOFX's best but still better than the standard punk rock shit you hear every day. Major props to Fat Mike for this album! Saw NOFX at Riot Fest last Saturday and they were easily the best band there.

Every band has their prime, it's rare to see a band with this many years behind them push out the kind of quality content that made them famous. I don't think this is their best album... I think we could all agree there, but there are some shiny gems found in this release that make it worth paying for the whole album in hopes that sales warrant future releases. People whine too much these days. It's rare when an album like Punk in Drublic or Weezer's blue album comes out that make you shake your head in awe of how good every song is. A good artist will paint a picture because they wanted to see what was on the inside appear in the world or as a platform for influence. I think the album speaks pretty well for where these people are at this point in their lives. Doesn't sound like they shit into a microphone to pay for their mortgages. Sounds like there was some real effort put towards this project and I'm glad I had the pleasure of supporting it with my time (time is money and time to listen).

were they trying to make the cover look like "group sex"?

This review is spot on. Very lackluster....

It's been a while that Fat Mike doesn't make an effort to write songs with substance anymore. Props to him for managing to sell shitty irrelevant music. To a new low.

It starts out great, and there are couple of really good songs (72 Hookers is easily the best NOFX song in a while, and One Jealous Again is great), but the rest of the record is really mediocre. I feel like all of the middle tracks have the same melody.

A terrible album, devoid of anything resembling effort, especially in the lyrics department. Their worst since S/M Airlines.

Much better than expected IMO. Nothing will top Punk In Drublic or The Decline, so it''s daft to make comparisons.

I think Pennywise wrote the better punk album this year.

I wasn't expecting much after Coaster and the teaser EP's, but I was surprised by this album - it's a bit darker, and it flows all the way through. Great opener and closer too.

I think this is the best album NOFX have released. Some thoughts: http://redd.it/zud34

this record is a return to form, the last song is so dumb lyrically, but it's still a well done song, good for them putting out a good record again, but wtf is the last song even a reference to?

Best NOFX album since War On Errorism. I tried to hate it but I couldn't.

I've only listened to this twice through, but the song that stands out most to me so far, and I'm surprised more people haven't been talking about it, was "I, Fatty". For all of Fat Mike's swagger, I like when he shows a bit of humility and self-doubt. It balances his persona with a bit of authenticity, and it's way more interesting.

Sounds like a NOFX album to me... just the way I like it!

I agree with the reviewer about lyrical content. I always thought NOFX was better when they took themselves seriously. Songs like The Decline and My Orphan Year were better because they didn't try so hard to be funny. I don't think having a 13 year old's sense of humor is funny beyond being 13.

Best NOFX album since War On Errorism...

This one grows on me with every listen. Another solid album. Admittedly, I'm a fan and I like most of there albums (never really enjoyed Heavy Petting). I feel like the reviewer was just ready to write them off, so he did. Whatever. To each their own. Fat Mike is kind of underrrated as a lyricist. I think he's as clever and entertaining as ever. NOFX are still relevant to me.

This is their best album in years, what a harsh review.

shit was way better than i expected. i dont miss not having the goofy reggae songs. i also dont see why everyone is bitching about the first song being so sexist. i mean, if i were islamic i think i would be more offended by the lyrics. but come on. its a fucking jooooooke.

First of all, this review sucks. Let's just get that out of the way...

I think Hefe was pretty on point when he said this album would be a 7. Some of the lyrics are still really great, and there are some good melodies, but it seems like they just weren't thought over quite long enough. The album shows promise, but I feel like that edge that lends perfection to a lot of NOFX material just wasn't there this time. However, I'm going to give it time to grow.

As much as I hate to say it, I'm wondering how much of a hand Bill Stevenson had in producing this beyond the aesthetics of the sound. I have no idea how involved Ryan Greene got with the lyrics and melody, but since Bill took over, I get the inclination that maybe Fat Mike has had more free reign in the studio. Of course this is all just speculation, and I have the utmost respect for Bill and Ryan both.

This is a pretty good album. Their past few albums have all had songs that I regularly skip over, but I think this one flows together well and doesn't really have any songs on it that are horrible.

Coaster is so much better than most people here give it credit for.

Ah, gotcha. I agree in that case, though I still find it pretty interesting throughout.

I didn't necessarily mean it needed a ska song, a reggae song, and a new wave song. Perhaps maybe all the songs could sound a little different. I thought it was kinda boring. The melodies are half-assed and the song structure is very similar throughout. Too similar for my tastes. One of the reasons I fell in love with the band was their ability to have an album like PiD, mostly punk songs, but not one sounds the same as the last. Diversity doesn't mean "multiple genres"..

In my opinion the lack of diversity is a strength on this one, especially since it is only 29 minutes. Coaster had way too much diversity. It was barely a punk album.

Their classic albums were pretty straight forward, too: A short trumpet solo, 15 second ska break, or maybe a reggae song towards the end or joke song to wrap things up, but that's about it. PID had 18 songs, only 4 of which diverged from punk, and two of those were the last two on the album.
A 29 minute album like Self-Entitled doesn't even need that, and props to them for recognizing that.

It's okay. Probably gonna say what everyone else is saying, with the exception that I think "Wolves" is their 3rd best album next to SLATFATS and Punk in Drublic.

I'll never understand why so many people didn't like it very much. That's why they're half-assing it lately, because they put out the utter brilliance that is Wolves in Wolves Clothing, and you effers don't see it!

But yeah better than Coaster. Personal favorites include "She Didn't Lose Her Baby", "Cell Out", "This Machine is 4", and "I, Fatty".

Overall, just not enough DIVERSITY for a NOFX album. Diversity has always been their greatest strength IMhO.

Much better than Coaster, probably better than Wolves.

Coaster went for too much cuteness -- too much genre hopping, their stalest reggae, and the transition from First Call to Orphan Year was just too uncomfortable.

This is quick, lofi punk rock. Good stuff.

way better and more enjoyable than coaster.

Coaster really took me by surprise, it was so addictive. I bet this rules too.

Valuum owns
Errorism owns
Wolves owns
Coaster owns
This owns

Better than Coaster.

Seriously, I love NoFX. Loved 'em since '94 or so. But even though I give this a 6/10, I'm just jaw-droppingly stunned at anyone giving it higher than an 8/10. I mean, I know people are pretty hardcore about this band, but... seriously? There are people giving this 10/10 scores.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU CONSIDER THIS A PERFECT ALBUM?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

As some one who loved nofx since being a preteen. This album is soild as can be I wish there was a skaish song but with that said there is not a bad song on this album and it's fun.

This review blows. Probably their best record since SLATFTS.

Solid record. Xmas has been Xed is my favorite song.

really? this is the best album they've released in years and deserves at least an 8. I've been listening to it non-stop since my download got e-mailed the other day. To each their own, I guess.

'I believe in goddess' is great, the reviewer is a dick

Pretty generic album, but not a big surprise at this stage in NOFX's run. After putting out so many brilliant, seminal albums and songs in the '90s, they've earned the right to half-ass it a little. At this point anything good we get from them is gravy. I'm happy if every new album has a couple of enjoyable songs worth listening to more than once. I can forgive them if most of the album is disposable filler and even in good songs the new lyrics and instrumentals aren't as impressive as vintage NOFX.

The better songs here aren't as strong as those on "Coaster", but "72 Hookers" is fun, and "I Got One Jealous Again, Again" is a very cool song with a really clever concept. I think it's a safe bet that they'll never put out another classic album, but that's all right. New albums mean a few new songs get thrown into their set every few years. If a few of those are catchy and entertaining, I think that's the best we can hope for.

NOFX has been rolling downhill ever since SLATFATS, even though Pump Up the Valuum followed that album pretty well.

The 4 albums they've released since then all has obvious holes they've filled up with songs that should never have made the album to begin with. NOFX biggest flaw is that Mike is waaay to good to write average songs, and that has now turned them into an average band now that we've all painfully realized that nothing NOFX will release will be more than maybe 40% of what they used to be back when they fucking kicked ass.

... and that fucking sucks.

I loved this album, not a bad song on the whole CD. My pick for album of the year.

A few pretty good songs, and the rest is just reaching.
Not bad, but their worst since Heavy Petting Zoo.

It's a NOFX album - A few winners, a few stinkers, some chuckles, a bit of politics, and a personal song or two. It's what I've come to expect from them, and they delivered. If they put out albums more frequently, I might be sick of it. As it is, I'm never clamoring for a new NOFX album, but I'm excited when one is on the horizon. They're there, and they're dependable. I love them for that.

I mean, like, you guys are aware that OFF!, Rudimentary Peni, and Ceremony exist, right?

except for the banalisations and sexism, 72 hookers kind of resembles Mother Superior by Good Riddance.

NOFX is "just another band" nowadays in the same way that Bad Religion is "just another band" nowadays. Neither are going to be releasing groundbreaking material any time soon - they did that back in the '80s and '90s. We all complain so much when bands change their sound (see Against Me!) and then when bands like NOFX stick to the tried and true formula we all still like to complain. For my money, NOFX still represents '90s style punk rock better than any band out right now. I grew up listening to albums that sounded like this so I'll always prefer it over the "punk" (ahem, "indie") bands of today.

So yeah, this is not NOFX in top form. If you want that, go listen to Punk in Drublic or The Decline. This is an older NOFX that, despite not being at the height of their career, are still relevant to the punk rock world and are still deserving of our support. I'll buy this.

I have the album, but I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. I thought Coaster was okay, but def. better than Wolves. Wolves was a filler album if you ask me....I mean 1/2 the tracks were from the 7IOTM club.

best since Errorism, no pop, no reggae just a killer nofx punk record start to finish.

Wow...How can some people perceive this album so very very differently to me....its friggen great!

Their best record since Pump Up The Valuum.

This record is probably better from start to finish but Valuum has some absolute fucking classics which pull it ahead.

My issues with "Coaster" were that the low points were SO low. Overall it probably had some better tracks than this one but this one has far fewer bad (reallllllly bad) tracks. I think that's why I like this one more right off the bat. It's hard to tell if it'll stick.
Oh and in case you're wondering what tracks off "Coaster" I'd consider really bad (for the sake of calling me wrong): Creeping out Sara, First Call, Best God in Show, I'm an Alcoholic, Eddie Bruce and Paul. I'm willing to accept people may love these songs but I just didn't. Sorry I suck.

This will probably be one of my faves of 2012, simply because it's NOFX, but it still seems disappointing by their usual standards. I thought Coaster was awesome; it had great variety in it. These songs all sound similar to me. Oh well, better luck in 2015.

I with Aubin on not getting the Coaster hatred. That album is miles better than this new one. Gave it a few listens last night, and other than "Sycophant Friends", I don't see myself returning to it. I love NOFX, but this really disappointed me.

"I've Got One Jealous Again, Again" is one of Fat Mike's best songs ever, although I take points off for him referencing a Fugazi picture disc that doesn't exist. (Unless he was referring to that Marillion record, which I doubt.)

I don't get the hatred for Coaster. I really liked that album, it's one of my favorite NOFX records in a long time. This one's all right, but probably won't get many plays after 2012 ends.

-Scott

At their oldest and drunkest, NOFX are still better musically and lyrically than most. This reviewer is what irritates me about whiny music fans. They hate on the band each year for not re-releasing Punk in Drublic. After two decades of witty songwriting, sold out tours across the globe and brilliant self promotion antics, what band wouldn't begin to show signs of lackluster and decay?Someone below said it better: People have way too many expectations for NOFX.

Seriously, you guys are totally wrong about Mike being wrong, and, frankly, Mike's right about him being right. Not only that but you remember my great idea that Mike had last week? I love it. We think its great.

NOFX became just another band like the Simpsons became just another TV show. The difference is the Simpsons was actually the best in the biz at one time -- there's a real heyday to hearken back to. NOFX has always been sort of generic even at their best.

Calling NOFX "just another band" is retarded. This album is better than their last 2 and much better than most other recent punk albums in general. Of course it's not going to appeal to everyone, but if you rate the album based on the songwriting, production, performances and lyrical content this album is pretty damn good.

Gimme a break, this album is awesome

this website gets 2 and a half stars for being such shitty reviewers of awesome 90's skatepunk bands.

Why the fuck is anyone wasting time listening to this? Are you bored with the new Propagandhi already? Impossible.

I think you guys are over looking the fact 72 hookers is about suicide bombers dying for 72 Virgins. I find it more on the smart side of crass than nofx being naive. Its not politically correct, but don't over look the meaning of it.

Good album, not the best, but good.

I agree Nofx was way much better in the 90's but this album deserves more than a 2.5.

This album rocks. It's wonderfully dark, fast, and still has that NOFX humor. But I'm biased.

They should uave just called this record Middle Aged Man Trying Way Too Hard

"anyone who doesn't find chauvinism humorous shouldn't be reviewing a NOFX record."

That's not an excuse for outright sexism. It's 2012. This shit isn't funny anymore. Of course, I'm not sure the band realizes that it's 2012, either, what with the lead-off single being a harsh, ill-informed, overly simplistic diatribe against Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher (and, no I am not a Reagan fan). I loved Wolves so much that I gave Coaster more of a benefit of the doubt than I should have, but this is utter tripe. The riffs are the best thing about this record, and that's because most of them rip off better NoFX songs.

real j4 -

put it on your mp3 player. you can put all the music you would ever want to listen to on it.

So easy and so hype to spit on these guys !
How many band from their generation could pretend to a solid punk records in 2012 ?
Not so many I think... They, one more time deserve the money I'm gonna give them !!
Happy millionnaires !

This is way better than 2 stars. New NOFX albums always take a few plays for me to really get into them, but this one's pretty good right off the bat- especially This Machine is 4. Secret Society definitely sounds like a Bad Religion song. Exactly like a Bad Religion song. Maybe it was a bit of a tribute to them?

anyone who doesn't find chauvinism humorous shouldn't be reviewing a NOFX record. Also, this is their best since Errorism for sure. Coaster was kind of meh.

Best since "errorism", I think.
"I've got one jealous again, again" is such a smart way to write about a divorce.
There are no bad tracks.
Track 4 and 8 are my so far favorites.

People expect way too much from NOFX these days. This is a great album and has the type of tunes you can expect. Jealous is a great track!

also i'm dyslexic...

as a 32 year old dude who has really liked nofx since he was about 13, i am really enjoying this release. my only problem is that it's too long.. this would have been sweet back in the day because it would have fit on one side of a cassette.. then you could go ahead and put Suffer on the other side! rock lobster!

decent album, nothing you wouldn't expect but still better than most of what's out there. 72 hookers, cell out and jealous are my picks at the moment