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The Vines

Highly Evolved
2002
Capitol

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Published on October 1st 2002

Are the Vines yet another over-hyped “garage rock” band, you ask? The answer is a resounding “yes!” While I can name 10 current rock bands that bite the feces of the Vines (ie. Puddle of Mudd), their hype to non-suckness ratio isn’t very flattering. NME and the British press are basically touting them as the next Nirvana, but they are more like the next Silverchair (that’s a bad thing, in case you didn’t know).

Highly Evolved, the Vines’ debut release, offers nothing new nor do they do anything existing well enough to make them interesting. Though I had low expectations for this album, I was expecting something with a little more rock, but the sad truth is the fairly boring single “Get Free” is by far the heaviest track offered here. Most of the songs are little ditties that trod along in a manner that seems to mix the worst parts of hair-metal ballads with the worst parts of bad piano-rock. These songs, such as “Homesick”, “Autumn Shade”, and “Mary Jane”, really make me scratch my head at what makes people consider these guys a garage rock band. The more rockin’ songs like “Ain’t No Room”, “Outtathaway!”, “Get Free”, and “Highly Evolved” are waayyy too polished. And while the structure of lots of these songs is fairly tight, it isn’t in a good way—the result is quite bland. The three best songs here are the two singles, “Get Free” and “Highly Evolved”, and the slightly atmospheric “Country Yard”. I think the fact that I state “Get Free” as one of the best songs on this album whilst it has more than worn out its welcome with me, with its forced vocal spasms and pure tedium, speaks a great deal about the overall quality of this album. My advice to you is if you are looking for an album that typifies this so-called “neo-garage rock explosion”, buy the New Bomb Turks’s latest album or something by The Hives. If you are into Top 40 radio, and this isn’t a knock, you may be interested in picking this up as it is one of the better things on the radio these days (which says a lot about the current state of radio).

Another pimp-fresh review from Ercoaidem Seirtsudni.






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    Posted by threechordsandthetruth on 2004-07-27 20:22:46
    My Score:

    *cough*

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    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 1:21 AM (EDT)
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    Actually, this is a very good ablum. It's just a shame people who review on here are way to narrow minded. Jeez if it's not punk it sucks right? Retards. Anyway this album is very diverse but overall it's more trippy and relaxing than anything. Get Free has hard stuff, and Homesick has soft stuff, but the core stuff on here is In The Jungle and 1969. Try opening your ears once in a while, morons.

    *cough*

    www.punknew.org

    Thanks for coming out.

    -TheShareef

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 18, 2004 at 2:05 PM (EST)
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    one thing these ausies do have is energy, craig nichols is non stop. not a grate album by any means but its not as bad as people here are making out best song - aint no room

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 27, 2003 at 7:44 PM (EST)
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    FUCK U ALL if this band was signed to epitaph ud luv them ok sure there over exposed sure the sound alitt like nirvana but hey jsut cuse of that doesnt mean they suck u guys are so closed minded i think vanessa carlton sucks cuse well i hate her music and lyrics by the way the cd pretty good not the virus not the pussy coldplay rit between

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 8, 2002 at 9:35 PM (EDT)
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    the reviews on this site blow ass. I'm done with even taking your advice on what to buy. Whoever is the editor of this site, which is a very good one when it concerns news in the music world, shouldn't let any random fucker write a review.

    Posted by waste_elite on 2002-10-08 00:44:59
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    i gotta hear this album. i just want to see if it's as absolutely wretched as everyone claims it to be. it got decent critical reviews, but then again what the fuck do critics know.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 7, 2002 at 9:32 PM (EDT)
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    Actually, this is a very good ablum. It's just a shame people who review on here are way to narrow minded. Jeez if it's not punk it sucks right? Retards. Anyway this album is very diverse but overall it's more trippy and relaxing than anything. Get Free has hard stuff, and Homesick has soft stuff, but the core stuff on here is In The Jungle and 1969. Try opening your ears once in a while, morons.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 7, 2002 at 8:20 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Zero energy, zero creativity. Why do they call this "garage music?" and why do they compare this shit to Nirvana? I mean, Nirvana weren't the best ever, but they still definitely kicked out the hard jams. These guys are nothing at all like that, there's no emotional intensity, it's so cutesy and childish. I's not real.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 6, 2002 at 10:18 PM (EDT)
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    These guys are a joke and it would not surprise me of they were manufactured through the Capitol Records "Artist Development Program".

    This is agressive music for Backstreet Boys fans.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 6, 2002 at 5:30 PM (EDT)
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    Not sure why everybody here always argues. Yeah, we all have different opinions, but can't we all just leave it at that?

    Why argue with people that could care less about your view?

    Posted by carb on 2002-10-04 10:31:51
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    Their latest music video I saw on Much recently just makes me want to gouge out my eyeballs with a bastard sword.

    I'm a huge grunge fan, but I seriously can't stomach the Vines one bit.

    Singer: "Hey guys, we really blow. Any ideas?"

    Guitarist: "Let's play grunge music, then people will mistake our crappyness for musical genius, and herald us as the next Nirvana."

    Singer: "Hooray for America!"

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 4, 2002 at 12:39 AM (EDT)
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    thats just because i like long hard objects in my asshole.

    ~pat41

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 3, 2002 at 7:22 PM (EDT)
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    i like this one song by the Vines, "Highly Evolved." But the rest... meh.

    It seems a bit hypocritical, to me, anyway, that people on this site who are always bitching at others for not being "open minded" about their music tastes rip on someone else for liking vanessa carlton. But hey, that's just a thought.

    Posted by SOYBOMB on 2002-10-03 18:58:27
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    Why do people like that song "Get Free" anyway?

    Peace,
    -SOYBOMB-

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 3, 2002 at 6:02 PM (EDT)
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    Yeah, I thought The Vines' record would be much better. I admit it, I liked "Get Free." But the rest of the album is a disappointment, indeed.

    Posted by seek on 2002-10-03 15:20:54
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    >>i love how you guys review bands that aren't even in the punk genre. Of course you're not gonna like it, cuz its not punk. You are all too punk for this shit. >>haha. Lame asses.

    "You guys" would be me. "Punk" takes up about 25% of the music I listen to. I don't like this because it is utter shit. I do, however, like the latest Aesop Rock disc. He isn't very punk, is he? You don't know shit and you should fuck off and die. Wang.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 3, 2002 at 2:36 PM (EDT)
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    the vines are the safest, lamest group of dorks since silverchair. actually they are silverchair, 10 yrs after the fact. stop playing grunge dudes. its time for a new style, not some rehashed nirvana for the industry dorks to piss their panties over
    -cawknocker

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 3, 2002 at 10:34 AM (EDT)
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    "you want to talk about credibility pat41? if you hadnt sucked sum41's dick so much"Get over it-BostonMusicGuy

    Posted by ludacris on 2002-10-03 08:45:19
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    This is the worst nirvana album ever!!! bummed out dudes!!

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 3, 2002 at 4:36 AM (EDT)
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    Rollins on SNL was pretty fuckin' intense!

    Posted by waste_elite on 2002-10-03 00:47:40
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    well, hell yeah of course there are a million better live acts out there. still, i have yet to see one play that ballsy on network television before. it's always so tame and controlled and boring. props to them for trying to make it interesting.

    Posted by 4131 on 2002-10-03 00:35:19
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    is it just me, or is ripping on pat41 the funnest thing to do on this site these days.

    Posted by relay1112 on 2002-10-02 17:01:47
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    I read a rolling stone interview with them, I think the singer really is crazy.

    And they do have 4 people; I think they picked up a new guitarist after recording or something. It wasn't clear.

    And their music isn't horrible, but I don't like it much.

    Posted by abileneINlove on 2002-10-02 16:21:47
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    It is a given that this record is atrocious. L

    Posted by evildeadalive on 2002-10-02 14:13:43
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    Absolutely terrible album. Threw it out the window of my truck it was so bad.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 at 12:11 PM (EDT)
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    "but i love the new vanessa carlton cd"

    This gives the rest of your comment a lot of credibility. Good for you... also all those bands are really ripping off nirvana at all. If anything Scott Stapp, Aaron Lewis, and the rest of those guys are trying to be Eddie Veder without a doubt.

    Oh yea, and the vines still suck

    -BostonMusicGuy

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    you want to talk about credibility pat41? if you hadnt sucked sum41's dick so much, maybe you would have a little bit too... but for now you have NONE

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 at 11:53 AM (EDT)
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    No, they really were terrible. After seeing so many REALLY excellent live acts i must say that these guys were lame! After you see a band like say The Bad Brains or Black flag live everything esle looks like the utter shit that it is. Commerical, wimpy, and very "within the lines" nonsense.

    Posted by waste_elite on 2002-10-02 11:16:27
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    "I saw them play live on a late night show and they were utterly terrible"

    i saw em play letterman and it was fucking great. best late show musical performance i've seen. maybe tied with At the Drive In.

    i can't really say anything more for this band as i haven't heard the album. get free is a good song though.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 at 10:04 AM (EDT)
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    "i love how you guys review bands that aren't even in the punk genre. Of course you're not gonna like it, cuz its not punk. You are all too punk for this shit. haha. Lame asses."

    but the vines are associated with punk becasue of te lovely mtv's of the world. so unless we doint mind that, we need to say something about it... hence this reveiw talking about how they suck ball sweat.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 at 1:42 AM (EDT)
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    this album and this band is so overrated and overexposed it's ridiculous. this is definitely one of the worst records i've heard that andy wallace recorded or mixed.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 11:28 PM (EDT)
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    "but i love the new vanessa carlton cd"This gives the rest of your comment a lot of credibility. Good for you... also all those bands are really ripping off nirvana at all. If anything Scott Stapp, Aaron Lewis, and the rest of those guys are trying to be Eddie Veder without a doubt.Oh yea, and the vines still suck-BostonMusicGuy

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 10:58 PM (EDT)
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    rock the vote yo!

    Posted by maverick on 2002-10-01 22:16:35
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    Also - anyone notice that on the album cover above, there's 4 impressions of people, but the band's only a trio? In all promo material I see for this band, I always see 4 guys, but only 3 ever play onstage - what the fuck gives?

    PS - Viva Death still sucks.

    -Scott

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 10:10 PM (EDT)
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    whatever their current single is, i dont even care, but when i first heard it i thought it was a nirvana song, and the whole 'lets cash in on nirvana' thing lately is getting old, (puddle of mudd, the singers of the creed, staind,and whatever crap like that the singing sounds like kurt to me, i like nirvana, but hearing nirvana songs done but this shit is shit, and im sorry i hate the hives, i hate the strokes, i hate the white stripes, ive always hated the new bomb turks, give me some bouncing souls, or hell just redo ramones songs and its better then anything lately, but i love the new vanessa carlton cd and now im gonna get stoned for not using "sentences" whatever

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 9:21 PM (EDT)
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    i love how you guys review bands that aren't even in the punk genre. Of course you're not gonna like it, cuz its not punk. You are all too punk for this shit. haha. Lame asses.

    Posted by punky on 2002-10-01 21:11:34
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    I don't like this small letters...damn mozilla

    Posted by kirbypuckett on 2002-10-01 20:57:01
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    I've had this album for like a month, but I never listened to it till today...I think it sucks. Aside from the single, Silverhchair did this better.

    - Scott
    http://www.local-felons.com/~uw/
    (The new Vandal's is good!)

    Posted by CallingLondon on 2002-10-01 19:06:52
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    ahh, finally, someone reviewed this. i thought about reviewing it too, but i was too lazy. i would have said the same thing though. this cd is pretty fucking bad. boring as hell. i basically thought it sounded like In Utero era nirvana, but not as good. some of it atleast. don't get it.

    Posted by SOYBOMB on 2002-10-01 18:27:13
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    I never liked that single of theirs.

    Peace,
    -SOYBOMB-

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 6:08 PM (EDT)
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    Yea, I was expecting something along the lines of the Hives, and when i saw the album was 8.99 I was all about it. then I got it, popped it in, put on Get Free, then put on the first track and was bored to death. hell these guys seem like they could be a really good band if they played along the lines of Get Free all the time. I mean that song has about 2 chords in the entire thing and it is just as entertaining as anything else I have heard this year. But the rest, if you ask me, is wannabe The Strokes, and they do a shitty job of it. Id take ths Strokes ANY day over this stuff.-BostonMusicGuy

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 5:30 PM (EDT)
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    The most overrated band around.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 4:53 PM (EDT)
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    This band is too over exposed because people think that they are the next Nirvana. Well, Silverchair was in the past and they suck and so do the Vines. Get Free my ass.

    Ramo

    Posted by eyeball_kid on 2002-10-01 15:13:00
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    Don't get me started on this. They're not even fit to lick Silverchair's boots (and they are absolutely hopeless). This is defintely the lamer than lame end of the garage rock spectrum.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 2:31 PM (EDT)
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    Yeah - this album wasn't what I expected at all. Strongly influenced by the Beatles - in a derivative kind of way.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 1:31 PM (EDT)
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    i wouldnt mind them so much if the singer guy didnt try to look like a jackass.

    i mean, i would continue to not listen to them... but atleast i just wouldnt care about them... instead i not only dont care about them, but i want them to die horribly

    Posted by ambiotical_sophisticrat on 2002-10-01 13:05:32
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    i like this record. its really mellow and sixtiesish. however, i dont like the vines as a band because they try so amazingly hard to look like theyre insane for whatever reason, when in fact the rest of the record other than "get free" is really quite mellow and slow. the singer guy also copies kurt cobain way way to much. its too bad all the little mtv kids dont know who kurt or nirvana is, and they think this guy is daring and original.

    Posted by shindo on 2002-10-01 09:08:23
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    Tom: I think I accidently deleted your comment, sorry... I need coffee this morning. Feel free to post again.

    adam

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 3:58 AM (EDT)
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    yea this band pretty much sux all around.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 3:48 AM (EDT)
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    I can gladly say that this record is a "steaming pile of dog shit".

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 3:24 AM (EDT)
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    They at first seemed like a lame rip off band to me. I mean, as soon as the Hives got popular these guys seemed to pop out of nowhere, like they were trying to cash in ogff of interest or something. Then I saw them play live on a late night show and they were utterly terrible. The singer put no energy into his performance, it looked like he knew he sucked and he was trying to capitalize off of it. And the lame MTV crowds fall for this hit. They should see a real band play, and really crush them.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 1:58 AM (EDT)
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    Yea anyone notice the lead singers facial expressions on the video. Yea very fucking annoying yea. Yea which leaves me no reason to check these guys out yea.

    Posted by shindo on 2002-10-01 01:05:01
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    wyzo: If my copy of the new Turks record gets in soon I'll have a review of it too. But its the turks to its pretty much assured to rule.

    adam

    Posted by maverick on 2002-10-01 00:11:20
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    Don't believe the hype! The *only* good songs on this album are "Get Free," "Outtatheway!", and the title track. The rest is garbage.

    -Scott

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 1, 2002 at 12:01 AM (EDT)
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    hey seek, review the new new bomb turks. I haven't got it yet cause I'm waiting on the vinyl, but I really want to know what it sounds like. I just lost the chance to see them in Chicago, which being their last tour, hurts me in special places.

    I cant believe they didnt stop in des moines. They played at hairy marys before. Grrrr.

    oh yeah, I hate the vines. their stupid and all that, blah blah blah, Im gonna drink some coffee and watch scott eat a sandwich.

    wyzo