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Dashboard Confessional / Ash / Hot Rod Circuit

Dashboard Confessional/Ash/Hot Rod Circuit: Live in WorcesterLive in Worcester (2002)
Vagrant Records

Reviewer Rating: 2


Contributed by: BostonMusicGuyBostonMusicGuy
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"You know you guys are being real pricks." These are the words that I will remember from my night at the Worcester Palladium. As Chris Carraba steps up to the mic before singing his songs he dedicates the song to the "dickheads that come to our shows just to mock us." He must be talki.


"You know you guys are being real pricks." These are the words that I will remember from my night at the Worcester Palladium. As Chris Carraba steps up to the mic before singing his songs he dedicates the song to the "dickheads that come to our shows just to mock us." He must be talking about a general group of people huh? No. 2 kids standing near the front. Then proceeds to have them picked up by security and escorted out of the building. Yes this is the event I will remember of my night... sadly.

On Saturday October 12 I attended the Hot Rod Circuit, Ash, and Dashboard Confessional concert with the BostonMusicGal. A surprise opening act (to me anyway) was the Remedy Sessions. Gut wrenching vocals, horrible drums beats, and very weak guitar work topped this performance off by the trio from South Florida. I can not say I enjoyed one song that they played although some of the so called emo kids around me (and my own girlfriend... but only because there were no vocals) enjoyed at least one of their songs so I guess somebody must think it is good.

Looking around and viewing my fellow concert goers I learned 3 things. I never knew it was cool to be ugly, "emo" kids really need to take a shower and wash their hair, and 12 year old rules the new "punk" trend. As I stand on the dance floor I get the feeling like I should go and sit somewhere and not hang out there anymore because I feel out of place being 21 and over 6' 4". So I go and take a seat for Hot Rod Circuit. I had never heard anything from Hot Rod Circuit and now I dont really feel like I want to hear anything from them again. The songs were boring, seemed uninspired and the guys, just as their fans, needed a shower. They were entertaining to watch though. The one guitar player (I think, cant really remember) was wearing a bright red jump suit and jumped around did splits and spins and all sorts of stupid stuff. While the bass player (again not sure about that) and other guitar player/singer did the obligatory head bang on the stressed notes. Since I was sitting rather high up in the balcony seating of the old play house I couldnt understand much that was sung or said in between songs.

So after a pretty boring performance from Hot Rod Circuit we awaited the arrival of Ash. Is it me or do they take a lot longer to change equiptment during bigger shows like this one. It seemed like at least 20 - 30 minutes in between each set which added the the boredom. I wasnt expecting much from the foursome hailing from Ireland going into the concert but I was pleaasantly surprised. Now I know this concert did not match up with their recorded songs but they had a lot of power, intensity, and energy. I had heard the song "Burn Baby Burn" and (reluctantly) enjoyed it. But the other songs I have heard from them have been really cheesy and poppy. This was not what happened tonight. Do not confuse what I am saying and think that I am comparing the two bands at all but the vocals and simpleness of the songs they played reminded me of the Ramones. Do not crucify me for this. I was pretty impressed with the Ash performance but I know this is not what I am to expect from their recordings. And I know that I will not ever prusue further Ash performances or recorded materials, as I dont suggest any of you do.

Now I know we all have pre-determined feelings towards Dashboard Confessional. Phrases like "selling out", "pussy rock", among other insults come to mind of those I have heard before. The Dashboard performance was not what I was expecting. I saw them last April at Skate and Surf Fest in Asbury Park and was pretty damn impressed by the energy and emotion that Chris puts into the performance. But this time I realized something... it isnt actually Chris that you are hearing a lot of the time. Throughout the set all I could think was that the only thing missing was a screen with the lyrics and a little bouncing ball. Fans knew every word to every song, save a few new songs. Despite hearing people I didnt pay to hear sing most of the songs from the set I wasnt upset at all. Playing all of my favorites like "Saints and Sailors", "Screaming Infidelities" (yea I know), and "Again i go unnoticed" I had no complaints and took off early to "beat the traffic."

The concert was very unimpressive in my mind although it seemed that most of the kids and my very own BostonMusicGal seemed to enjoy themselves very much. I have never ever seen so many people stand completely motionless for a majority of a concert. I guess faking some sort of depression gets to you after a while...

 


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Anonymous (December 8, 2002)

dashboard is a bunch of pussies. join the fucking MTV bandwagon. woo woo.

Anonymous (October 23, 2002)

youre all gay. shut the fuck up

Anonymous (October 22, 2002)

I like the post from the one really angry anonymous guy - and I'm not being sarcastic. Do you go to shows like this just so you can feel good about yourself and feel like you're "more punk" than the others there? You didn't seem to really be a big fan of any of the bands going into the show. So you let your girlfriend drag you there? I think it's sad that you all dismiss Dashboard Confessional. I hope I'm not the only one who can listen Black Flag, Dashboard Confessional, and MU330 and enjoy them all and not worry about what "scene" they're in.

Anonymous (October 21, 2002)

i'm hardcore and dashboard sucks
i'm more punk than you because i have liberty spikes

proceed with the upchucking turbo-fag.

Anonymous (October 21, 2002)

finally someone had the balls to let it all out - kudos to you! probably one of the most rational things i've read on here

Anonymous (October 21, 2002)

Relax there buddy. Slowly - inhale, exhale, again - inhale, exhale, deep soothing breathes. Repeat until calm.

Anonymous (October 21, 2002)

this is fucking pathetic, everyone can't seem to swallow their fucking pride and accept the fact that there are people who *gasp* DONT LIKE THE SAME MUSIC YOU DO! i agree with the person who said that if you think someone should be killed for liking a band that you don't, then you should grow the fuck up. this is SICKENING, this is a goddamn music site not a FUCKING "who's more punk" site... accept the fucking fact that there are DIFFERENT kinds of 'punk' and 'emo' with DIFFERENT types of fans and theyre NOT ALL GOING TO BE LIKE YOU so SHUT THE FUCK UP AND MAKE THIS GODDAMN SITE MORE ENJOYABLE FOR THE FUCKING PEOPLE WHO COULD GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT BOSTON MUISC GUY CALLS HIS GIRLFRIEND!!!! chill the FUCK out and quit searching for shit to make fun of people for! "ooh you cant spell" "ooh you like dashboard? what a PUSSY!" "youre gay cuz u wrote a bad review" WHAT THE FUCK IS A BAD REVIEW ANYWAY? a REVIEW is a FUCKING opinion. you dont like the fucking opinion, you disgaree with the fucking opinion, WHO GIVES A FUCKING SHIT? thats YOUR fucking difference in opinion! and i swear to all high fucking lord, if i hear "youre not punk enough" or "im hardcore and you all suck" one more fucking time, IM GOING TO FUCKING VOMIT!!!! dont you all realize your pathetic FUCKIN EXISTENCE?? youre NOT MORE PUNK THAN ANYONE ELSE!!!! PUNK IS NOT A GODDAMN FIGHT TO SEE WHO'S BETTER!! jesus fucking christ.

its fucking LAME!!!!
i cant WAIT to hear how i get attacked for this shit. ::rolls eyes::

Anonymous (October 21, 2002)

why has no one commented on the fact that hot rod circuit is just a corporate tool to sucker in kids? theyre sponsored by pepsi and most of their shows have pepsi representatives there to give out samples to their new "target audience". that doesnt seem too punk rock to me. fuck that band

Anonymous (October 21, 2002)

I dislike dashboard becausee its somewhat repetitive and basically pop-punk unplugged.

Why is a guy covered in tattoos whining?

The Real Boston Sports Guy probably would write a hilarious article on how girly Dashboard Confessional is.

BostonMusicGuy - you are a good writer but the guy below did have a point...the name lacks originality. Very few are in Bill Simmons' league. I am usually not one to criticize people on this site but I am an avid reader of Bill Simmons on ESPN.COM

I am glad the show in Detroit is over, it was Friday, now I don't have to hear about it from all the whiny kids I know "Yay Dashboard is coming" in their AIM profiles. Depressing and trendy...

Captain Crunch

Anonymous (October 20, 2002)

i dig ash

Anonymous (October 20, 2002)

twat-admit it, you love dashboard too. you know you're just dying to get out of the closet and grab for something long and hard. at least that's what you told me last night. come on, join me, let's go see dashboard and have a merry time! this time, you can be the receiver.

BostonMusicGuy (October 19, 2002)

So yea... homophobic a bit? Either way I went because yea I enjoy some songs by dashboard, yea, I have a girlfriend that wanted to go. Oh and also did you actually read the review? Maybe you didnt notice that I didnt exactly enjoy the singing. Also, is it wrong to like a band because you are a certain age? Thats just fucking ridiculous.-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (October 19, 2002)

Being 6'4 and 21 maybe you shouldn't be hanging out with all the 12 year olds? What's a 21 year old "straight" guy going to dashboard confessional for? Maybe secretly hoping you'll run into your kidís new babysitter? Cuz dude, thatís just wrong. Or maybe you want to fit in with your sons new "friends?" The new crowd he's been hanging with since he began listening to dashboard? Here's a little hint, those rainbow stickers on his backpack doesn't mean he's into the primary colors. You know the phrase "it runs in the family?" Maybe he caught daddy strutting around in a teddy and thigh high fuck me boots while mommy called him a bad girl? So please bostonmusicguy, try to set an example for your son. Itís bad for his self esteem when he sees daddy screaming the lyrics while tears and snot drip down his face. twat.

BostonMusicGuy (October 19, 2002)

OK, so instead of asking me why i went to the concert why did this kid go to see HRC 7 times?!-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (October 19, 2002)

i gave it a 3 cuz i've already seen dashboard at the palladium and i've seen hrc there a bout 7 times. and i gotta say that i agree with the reviewer about hot rod circuit. they do kinda suck- very very mediocre. sound just like everyone else, and each time i saw them i was extremely unimpressed.

BostonMusicGuy (October 18, 2002)

feuck you ll... fuckihng citccbitches... i hate tioy all mother fuckers... die bitch... anyway.. .love you ... -BostonMusicGuyI hagfgve t9you a one assfuck

Anonymous (October 18, 2002)

"'And these guys have been going since 1993, way before all those emo bands.'
its called fucking sunny day real estate
one of the true inovators of emo
that and emo has been around longer than you were born asshole, next time u should be careful of what you say"
The person specifiacallay said all THOSE emo bands referring to hrc and dc, therefor your a dipshit. And is it just me or do people on this site worry way to much about stuff that has nothing to do with music, i.e. people at shows, personal hygene, and who can beat up who in the "pit"

t_garn

Anonymous (October 18, 2002)

i cant believe how many people like these bands.. its out of control.
souless whiteboy whitegrrl wussy crap.
yer parents all have better taste in music than you...

Anonymous (October 18, 2002)

it's kind of sad and pathetic i think that this is a website about MUSIC and a review about MUSIC and people are writing comments about what he calls his girlfriend. honestly.

Anonymous (October 18, 2002)

thank you scotty cant we all just get along im a hardcore kid but enjoy 2 out of three of these bands so fuck all you im to punk or im to hardcore kids just accept music for what it is music

Hardcore Pride

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

"And these guys have been going since 1993, way before all those emo bands."
its called fucking sunny day real estate
one of the true inovators of emo
that and emo has been around longer than you were born asshole, next time u should be careful of what you say

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

You kids all need to grow the fuck up. This message board is pathetic. All it is is name calling. Hardcore kids trying to be tough by calling emo kids pussies and emo kids whining about it. You guys (not all) are the saddest excuse for humans I've ever seen.

Grow up, stop trying to be tough asses, and get a life.

*by the way I'm bored as fuck as work so don't give me any shit about wasting my time posting*

-Scotty

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

BostonSportsGuy is someone I look up to in the media. He isnt fake, he isnt in it just to expose peoples rights and wrong, he is in it because he loves sports and the town of boston. Ive been a fan of his ever since i found bostonsportsguy.net and saw his stuff of boston.com... and he didnt get any worse on espn.com's page 2... yea the BostonMusicGuy and BostonMusicGal are obviously a rip off anybody who has ever heard of the BostonSportsGuy would pick up on that right away... im surprised it took you all this long... im dissapointed... especially since I told everyone that my new name was in honor of the great BostonSportsGuy in my first post as the BostonMusicGuy... fucking morons...-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

hey scott, i can see how you would think the warped tour pits are weak when you've only been in the good charlotte and new found glory pits. did you try the casualties or death by stereo or age of ruin or skycamefalling pits? those are the warped tour pits i'm talking about. but with you being the little pussy emo faggot and all, i'm guessing you wouldn't try to venture in anyways.

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

This reviewer is copying a guy who was on Boston.com (or some site like that) called the Boston Sport Guy. He wrote witty sports columns about the Boston sports scene and other items of interest, then was picked up by ESPN.com and is now called just the Sports Guy. He referred to his girlfriend as the Boston Sports Gal, so I guess the Boston Music Guy had to follow suit. How about a little orginality?

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

"Ohhh no, he wants to get down in a warped tour pit...how dangerous. Warped tour is a bitch ass tour where people just bounce up and down like fucking kangaroos, thats not a pit"

I didn't write that comment about 'see you at warped tour' but...I'd much rather be at warped tour than at a fucking DC show with people (12 yr old sluts) crying and shit. yea the warped tour sold out or whatever, blah blah blah...but at least 30% of the bands there are good and i beg to differ that the warped tour is just like a bunch of kangaroos jumping up and down...no you got it wrong i think thats a Yellowcard or Mest concert. dumbshit

maverick (October 17, 2002)

I love how the guy a bunch of posts down is all trying ti be "hard" by talking about how emo sucks, and he'll fuck some people up in the pit, and then he says the WARPED TOUR PIT.

Dude, the Warped Tour is just as weak as this show. It's catered to the masses. You want a pit? Go see Dillinger Escape Plan at the Fireside Bowl for 2 dollars. That's a fucking pit, my friend.

I like Dashboard and HRC, and I'm seeing this tour this Saturday. So preemptively, I'm giving it a 7.

-Scott

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

I thought the warped tour wasent punk anymore...
if u wanna fight meet me at the playstation both or maybe the motorola...
thats fuckin hardcore

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

"you're all a bunch of faggots for listening to dashboard. may all yo emo faggots die horrible fucking deaths. in fact, i'll see ya in the pit at the next warped tour and then you'll really be crying. fucking pussies all of you. "

Ohhh no, he wants to get down in a warped tour pit...how dangerous. Warped tour is a bitch ass tour where people just bounce up and down like fucking kangaroos, thats not a pit.

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

how did Ash get on there, their really good, "jack names the planets' is such a great good mood in the morning song. Great band.

Showering is over-rated, and its a bit shallow to complain about. Not alot of crust core friends i take it.

Otherwise, i agree the other bands are boring, and dashboard is well dashboard.

wyzo

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

BOSTONMUSICGAL - dumbest fucking thing I've ever read. If your over 15 years old & used that name to refer to your girlfriend you should just kill yourself. I'm embarrassed that I share the same gender with you. Fucking Ass.
On the other hand: I really liked the review.

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

"Oh yea, way to spell your name queer, "jimi", bet the chicks dig that one?! fag"

ha...original

Jimi

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

This literally might have been the worst review of a concert that I have ever read.

abileneINlove (October 17, 2002)

So why did you go to the show? I must have missed that part.

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

Way to rip off Bill Simmons with the BostonMusicGal nickname...

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

Stupid idiosts!- Mr. B

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

Ash is pretty good. Some of their songs are really really bad, but some of their songs are really really good which have that irresitable pop vibe to it. And these guys have been going since 1993, way before all those emo bands.

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

anyone who thinks that pointing out that a bunch of jocks were at a poison the well show is sterotyping is a dumbass

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

Oh yea, way to spell your name queer, "jimi", bet the chicks dig that one?! fag

Anonymous (October 17, 2002)

Jimi. . .sounds to me you suck cock! Of course your not going to enjoy a band if you sit through the fucking performance. And to everyone else who talks about death being associated with music, and I wish so and so would kill this person. . .fuck you. Music is all about the experiences you've had, and how one can relate. So if you think someone should be killed for liking a band that you don't like, grow the fuck up

BostonMusicGuy (October 16, 2002)

"do fans at sporting events get the boot for heckling"Actually yes they do. I have been to countless and countless celtics games and if there is a rowdy fan that is causing a commotion then they are given a warning... like Chris gave... and then if they keep it up they are given the boot. The same happens at Red Sox and Patriots games that I have been to.Sorry to burst that bubble.-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

hey man, i've been to Against Me! shows and the whole croud (including me) was singing along, and I think i enjoyed them more becouse of this. As for this show, there is noy way in hell you would catch me there.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

umm, I know Hot Rod Circuit has a really similar sound to Good Charlotte, Mest, etc...that must be why you called them bland pop-punk...idiot

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

to the guy way down there who commented on ian mackaye....

mackaye kicks people out who are being fucking destructve. he was in minor threat, he can do anything he fucking wants. carraba was in.....umm....further seems forever. he needs to be able to deal with fans that heckle. they paid the same as everyone else. do fans at sporting events get the boot for heckling? nope, not unless its little league baseball.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

i wish i could somehow contact that sniper terrorizing d.c. and ask him to take out the lead singer from dashboard. then all his faggot and lesbian fans will really be crying their eyes out.

Hamish (October 16, 2002)

Hot Rod Circuit is the definition of bland, uninspired pop-punk. Ugh.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

you stupid fucks, hot rod circuit is so much better than anything you'll find at warped tour (except alkaline trio and hot water music). go listen to poison the well (which is pure shit) or something.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

"Yea people ussually sing along at concerts but there is a difference at Dashboard concerts... you cant hear chris sing... i didnt pay to hear 1000 12 year old girls sing screaming infidelities while chris stand 10 feet away from the mic screaming the lyrics to himself."

I've seen Dashboard Confessional once. We (my friends and i) got there about halfway through their set, and it honestly looked like Chris was just mouthing the words. The audience is a sea of 12 year olds (this is where i disagree with BMG; i saw lots of guys doing this too) robotically singing along with a glazed look in their eye. It's quite scary. When you go to a DC show, you don't end up listening to them. It's just a chorus of pre-pubescents and them lip-synching. Not worth the money at all.

I've also seen Hot Rod Circuit, and I thought they were really energetic and got the crowd going.

WussEmoRock (October 16, 2002)

decent review, but seriously. why in the world would you go to this tour? I wouldn't even go if I got the ticket for free, but if I got paid, well that's a different story my friends

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

BostonMusicGuy (October 16, 2002)

Yea people ussually sing along at concerts but there is a difference at Dashboard concerts... you cant hear chris sing... i didnt pay to hear 1000 12 year old girls sing screaming infidelities while chris stand 10 feet away from the mic screaming the lyrics to himself. Hot Roc Circuit can be around as long as they want to be their style still doesnt impress me... nothing about them does.-BostonMusicGuy

sickboi (October 16, 2002)

"See you in the pit at the next Warped Tour".....

Classic.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

you're all a bunch of faggots for listening to dashboard. may all yo emo faggots die horrible fucking deaths. in fact, i'll see ya in the pit at the next warped tour and then you'll really be crying. fucking pussies all of you.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

...but i just wish people would stop singing along with them.

Not wanting to piss on your bonfire, but isn't that what fans usually do at shows?

kirbypuckett (October 16, 2002)

"Hot rod Circuit, im not going to say is a horrible band because obviously this is just my opinion of them but they just seemed like more of the same crap. Like a Saves the Day rip off... same old Vagrant shit."

Erm...Hot Rod Circuit has been around for awhile and have been playing that style of music before the "Vagrant sound" even existed.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/~uw/
(High five anxiety)

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

Girlfriend or not, I'll be damned if I pay money to see Dashboard, or waste my time for that matter. "Before I sell-out, I get the hell-out".

-sickboi

BostonMusicGuy (October 16, 2002)

To address all your problems...1. I paid the money to go see Dashboard because my girlfriend wanted to, and when i saw them in april they were awesome and i thought i could expect more of the same.2. Hot rod Circuit, im not going to say is a horrible band because obviously this is just my opinion of them but they just seemed like more of the same crap. Like a Saves the Day rip off... same old Vagrant shit.3. Ash was very energetic. Doesnt matter what your opinion of them is... you could think they are the worst band in the world but they had a lot of energy and played hard and fast.4. And finally Dashboard wasnt horrible... they were nowhere near what i expected of them but i just wish people would stop singing along with them. Its horrible. Oh and the fact that they cheer and cheer for no aparent reason. Ever see that old Dana Carvey stand up on Comedy Central where he makes fun of frontmen for changing chords and acting like its a surprise to them? Well Chris didnt really act like it was a surprise but it seemed like it was to everyone else and the shrieked and cheered and yelled things like "We love you Chris" (a guy said that one... wierd) and "I want to have your children". Dashboard has become the NSYNC of the new "punk" trend... i just wish they werent considered punk.-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

hot rod circuit should of headlined this tour. dashboard opened for sloppy meateaters a year ago.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

hahaha, good review dude.

I can just see all those plump little emo girls singing every single word to Dashboard Confessional's set as if anyone paid to hear them sing.

one night I came across dashboard confessional singing unplugged on mtv, I could only take about 17 seconds of that. It was just kids sitting there indian style rocking back and forth singing along like there was no tomorrow.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

that's cuz ian's cool and chris isn't

fakesmile (October 16, 2002)

It's not a surprise to me you liked Ash..
They were definitely the band who's sound is closest to punk..

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

so...you paid money to go sit through bands you don't like and/or never heard that opened for a bands you didn't like...?

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

so lemme get this straight....when ian mackaye has idiots thrown out of a show for being disruptive fuckheads (and refunds their money) its cool and punk. when chris carrabba does it , its not?

this reviewer is worse than jaded. he is trying DESPERATELY to sound jaded and over it all (even going so far as to sheepishly imply he liked ash with the quick qualifier of "well, i wouldnt buy their records and you shouldnt either). jesus christ, take a stand. have a backbone.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

dashboard confessional? im so sick of hearing about those clowns. i don't care what anyone says, i think they're a bunch of overrated pussies.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

"Hot Rod Circuit rules. . .boring? Bad review"

what? Bad review because he gave an honest opinion about a truly crappy band? I think not...Hot Rod Circuit is uninspired crap....they should break up...

and YOU'RE a bad review, so there...

Jimi

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

ash rules.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

Hot Rod Circuit is a great band... definitely the best at that show. Everytime I've seen them they've put on a terrific show.

-Scotty

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

Hot Rod Circuit rules. . .boring? Bad review

travis (October 16, 2002)

i was at this show. dashboard was absolutely horrible, hot rod circuit only played 2 old songs, and ash suprised me. but damn... dashbards was real bad.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

Yes, I agree...anyone who sits during Hot Rod Circuit is an idiot...especially if they think Ash's set is energetic.

Anonymous (October 16, 2002)

well your first problem is that you sat through hot rod circuit.....what were you even doing there...i hear john mayer is coming through soon, he'll have a nice clean crowd for you to go tower above

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