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Published on November 8th 2002
I was actually really looking forward to this show. Even though the only band I had not seen live was Finch. I was looking forward to this show because first it was playing at my favorite venue (If you have never seen a concert at the House of Blues Chicago you don’t know what your missing) and second because it had four great bands on the same bill. I arrived about a half-hour early and there was already a big crowd outside. Not to my surprise at all there were a lot of fourteen year old girls waiting no doubt to sing a long to “My friends over you” that they saw on MTV and heard on the radio. But I was still looking forward to a good show. As my friend and I went in I went over to the side of the venue where the bar was. I was right up close as the first band “further seems forever” began. People who liked this also liked:  Please login or register to post comments. What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
I do pity a lot of you, with such a total lack of identity that you feel you have to cling to a particular fashion/way of life.I'm talking about all you supposed "punks": "This show is the worst ive ever seen, these bands are pop, i want to smash your face in for listening to these bands, you shouldn't listen to this, you should listen to real punk, like *insert suitably non-pop sounding band*. I think you should be strung up and shot" ALL is good, but I personally like Descendents much better. But to each his own. My all time favorite band that sounds so POP but is a punk band is ALL. sounds like a nightmare YES!, the stooges fucking rocked. I've been listening to the Stooge's "Funhouse" and Black Flag's "Radio Tokyo Demos" every morning this week to get ready for work. But, to comment on this show I only have a couple things to say.....poop on a plate, because that's what this show is.- Brandon Sideleau playing an encore at all, stupid and weak. on a totally unrelated note and since you mentioned em, the stooges are so fucking great. i've been on a stooges kick all week. s/t and fun house have to be on my list of all time favorite albums. This guy said Green Day was the best live band ever- now he deserves no credit. While I will be honest that I saw Green Day a couple years ago at Warped and they put on a pretty decent show, considering they were a pop punk band and I wasn't expecting much. They weren't "awesome", but they were very tight and energetic. But, the truth is, if you think Green Day is/was the best live band ever then you need to get out from under the pop, mainstream rock you live. Maybe in MTV world they are the "best live band ever", but in the real world I can name 500 bands that would turn them into pudding on stage, past and present. I mean, you need to listen to past music and excellent live bands (ie. Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Black Flag, The Damned, The Misfits, The Circle Jerks, The Dead Kennedys, DOA, The Doors, MC5, The Stooges, Fear) and present great live acts (Bad Religion, though older, are still around and had a legendary show at the Whiskey last January, Pennywise is good live, Rollins Band is great live, Danzig is great, Death By Stereo, Less Than Jake, Good Riddance). playing the hit single as the encore, stupid and weak. I swear this is supposed to be a punk website. Why is all this pop stuff always on here. New found glory, finch, backstreet boys, avril lavigne, Saves the day, etc. lol i can't help but comment as well. i just read all your comments... and god helps, you all need jack off. seriously man, it helps you forget what punk is and is not. it helps you forget how suck or great some bands are. or come on men, or boys, make out with your girlfriends. Why the fuck is it so trendy nowadays to LIKE Finch? They have to be the worst fucking band on the drive-thru label, and when you're making that comparison with bands like Allister/The Starting Line you know they're fucking horrible. Who likes that screamo whiney shit anyway? I guess enough people to make hot topic sell their shirts and promote their albums in the front cart. I saw them this summer at warped tour and it was a bunch of 12 year old abercrombie clad girls jumping up on stage, leaning back into the crowd then being pushed back up on stage and thinking they were 'like oh mah gawd crowdsurfing.' sad. "None of these bands are pop punk bands....they are POP bands...period" I think Lawrence Arms and Dillinger are great pop punk bands, as were The Ramones and the Descendents (whom could play hardcore as well). NOFX is decent pop punk too, Good Riddance does good pop punk when they aren't doing great hardcore. Bad Religion has done some pop punk songs and a lot speed y fast songs as well. I just really hate the garbage labeled pop punk this year, like New Found Glory, Allister, Simple Plan, and Something Corporate, which are all pop groups. None of these bands are pop punk bands....they are POP bands...period. They arent rock, they areny indie, they arent.....whatever, its just pop. Alkaline Trio, Lawrence Arms, Dillinger Four are all good "pop-punk" bands (calling them pop-punk may be debatable). there are tons more, that's just what pops into my head. then you got the classic Ramones and Descendents. Since this is a terrible review, I wanna start a thread about what pop-punk bands ARE good. What are some good pop-punk bands? Hey I heard in Boston they make you do something... You know what they make you do..... They make you toss the salad. Thats right toss the mother fucking salad. Boston sucks always has always will. No wonder Larry Bird got his ass the fuck outta there. Oh and lets not get started in your Red Sox. I'm an idiot and I deserve to die. I'm so sick of being an idiot. But, as you can tell by my name, I am eternally one. I am confessing to you people. I will probably regret this tomorrow, but I really am stupid. Sorry for my right wing idiotic comments. this review takes the cake as worst on the site. I just read the whole thing... i hadnt before just skimmed.... and this has to be the biggest piece of garbage ever. My reviews are no prize winners but I mean come on commenting on how a band was great because they were "are always in sync with each other"... fuck they better be in sync with eachother. Oh yea and that thing where they shouted "one more song" its called an encore... I hope you werent surprised when they played one. Oh and Finch, the only band that deserves more than 2 sentences in that review got only 2 sentences... worthless. Finch were the only band i enjoyed at this show. I am fucking pissed I had to go.-BostonMusicGuy there's no fucking point in trying to evaluate and define what punk is because it is something different to everyone. save your breath. seriously, ask 10 different people what they think it means and you will get 10 different responses, none of which could be considered right or wrong. it's a waste of time. agreed. Just so everyone knows...none of us care what YOU think punk is. We do not care at all, because we all know that YOU ARE NOT PUNK. Either am I. So stop these dumb arguements, it is a waste of time Sometimes there are some weak reviews written on the site but this one might take the cake. This person's "review" of finch was hardly noticable to someone quickly skimming. I actually did a double take because I thought there was an error in the way he spaced the paragraphs. Nice going sailor. For some reason everyone loves to praise FSF with this great originality that I fail to see. Sure the guys in the band are all incredible musicians, but on a general listen it doesn't really stand out in my head. I do applaud them for getting a new lead singer that looks EXACTLY like the old one.(I guess getting a tattooed dude with plugs and dark hair isn't that hard these days anyway) I don't know much about Something Corporate besides the video one of my friends subjected me to, but being an avid Ben Folds fan, I find it extremely hard to believe that they are even in the same musical realm. Finch played my college last year, and I got to see up close and personally what a waste of time they are. As someone said a little downfurther, just because ya "scream" doesn't set you apart. Disposable just like the rest of the Drive Thru lineup..In a couple of years when this current musical trend is past,Drive Thru will be signing the Voodoo Glow Skulls and any other punk has been that was a marque name in 1997. And to pick on NFG...It's like picking on the special ed kid in gym. Isn't TOO easy of a target? Everybody has their own opinion......for me punk is about doing about being completely independent in your beliefs, thoughts and way of life. Meaning that everything I believe or do is based entirely on organic thoughts from within my own head. That's why religion, politics and genres are all bullshit. wow, what a profound statement there below... We didn’t create shit. Let’s get that out in the open. People have to call themselves punk so they can segregate themselves from anything that could be construed as popular music or culture. Bands like NFG would not be considered punk by any era’s definition of the word punk. Not because their music consists of only three chords at best but because they dress how punks are supposed to dress. Punk rock was about individuality. Yet there is a whole LARGE culture of kids and adults who are conforming to what the current hip punk look is. ask your self this when you go to the shopping mall and see 5 other kids with liberty spikes how they are being an individual? Would they have liberty spikes if the guy from rancid or good charlotte did not have them? Probably not. "because if you have actually heard punk half the people on this site would hate "punk",thrice and whoever are nowhere close to what the standards of yesterdays punk was, hell, none of these bands should be mentioned in the same sentence with "punk" our punk is way different, we created something that really doesn't need a name, who gives a shit about words like emo,hardcore,punk,emocore,indie,and all that other crap, its music for gods sake,enjoy it, if it appeals to someone then i guess the band is doing what they wanted to do, lets all try to respect an opinion,or do we have to bash each other because one person likes something that another doesn't. Listen to the music and enjoy it while we can, fuckers" wow house of blues, your fav venue? glass jaw is terrible. most overrated band ever. NFG isn't in their late 20's, and Finch needs to write songs that don't use the same progression with the groove picking pattern. Something Corporate: no. and FSF has alot of heart and love for their music. that's all that counts. Wuss-Emo-Rock, bleh. I saw this in Worcester... it was awful. Further Seems Forever... sucks my ass. Finch... was great no complaints about them. Something Corporate... the only song I wanted to see them play was Konstantine... and they didnt. New Found Glory... ussually like them... didnt this time... probably wont in the future. They are good the first time you see them then they just become repetitive. I realized for the first time (amazingly the first time) they they really dont have one single song that isnt about a girl... except some cover songs which dont count if you ask me. NFG is boring me. The score is for Finch.-BostonMusicGuy You guys listen to that old busted stuff. I listen to the new hotness. You, old and busted. Me, new hotness. this reviewer said they arrived half an hour before the show and "there was already a big crowd outside". I'd rather stay at home and listen to a bunch of records. to all the people who bash me, what tour would you want to see more? "Referring to the person that said the people's comments should just slide off my back is right, and I've been doing that for years. I just finally got so damn sick of everyone saying "they're posers" and "that's not even music" and things like that. I mean, the whole label thing is getting a little out of hand. I heard someone call a band hardcore-emo-pop-punk the other day? What is that? Call it music. Describe the way that band sounds dynamically, describe the singers voice, compare them to other bands that sound similar to them...or if they have their own style then say so. But I really wish people would stop classifying music. It makes people who would otherwise like the music turn away from it because someone called it "pop-punk" or "hardcore-emo". " because if you have actually heard punk half the people on this site would hate "punk",thrice and whoever are nowhere close to what the standards of yesterdays punk was, hell, none of these bands should be mentioned in the same sentence with "punk" our punk is way different, we created something that really doesn't need a name, who gives a shit about words like emo,hardcore,punk,emocore,indie,and all that other crap, its music for gods sake,enjoy it, if it appeals to someone then i guess the band is doing what they wanted to do, lets all try to respect an opinion,or do we have to bash each other because one person likes something that another doesn't. Listen to the music and enjoy it while we can, fuckers personally i like finch,so they're not"punk" who gives a shit, its not like the band is all over the radio, they are just as much underground as any other "punk" band out there, besides,what the fuck is punk anyways Little Scotty: OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! WORST SHOW EVER!! OMG!! dear god, i can just imagine the 12 year old girls lined up to see this atrocity. giggling in the corner wearing their shirts that say "punk" and their studded belts they bought at hot topic, rambling on about the singer of this band is soooo cute. fucking shoot me, i'd rather undergo a lifetime of chinese water torture than go to this pathetic excuse for a show. if anything has the potential to "kill" punk, it's bands like this and their fans. whoever said finch sounds like glassjaw is retarded. the singer tries to sound like daryl from glassjaw but they really do not sound alike, just listen to the music , glassjaw are a 100 times better musicians, finch are like a slightly heavier pop punk band while glassjaw just has their own sound that really varies a lot Wuss-Emo-Rock, Referring to the person that said the people's comments should just slide off my back is right, and I've been doing that for years. I just finally got so damn sick of everyone saying "they're posers" and "that's not even music" and things like that. I mean, the whole label thing is getting a little out of hand. I heard someone call a band hardcore-emo-pop-punk the other day? What is that? Call it music. Describe the way that band sounds dynamically, describe the singers voice, compare them to other bands that sound similar to them...or if they have their own style then say so. But I really wish people would stop classifying music. It makes people who would otherwise like the music turn away from it because someone called it "pop-punk" or "hardcore-emo". Damn those titles are good, I should check that band out. Thanks for the info. On a much lighter note, New Found Glory sucks. I don't know about Something Corporate, but has anyone heard of Corporate Avenger? They're responsible for such radio friendly fare as "The Bible Is Bullshit," "Taxes Are Stealing," and "Christians Murdered Indians." I was in a video of theirs once. Respect me, I'm a superstar. Finch sounds just like NFG when the guy isn't TRYING to scream. The score is for NFG and Something Corporate. They both suck. Further Seems Forever are good for an emo/pop-punk band. Finch is a great band. Why would FSF and Finch play with NFG and So/Co ? I totally agree with the person below. All of you who aren't in a band have no idea how hard it is to even get a couple of people to come to your shows.Let alone get a record deal, and then go on tour. "I think all of you people who just come in here and write with the sole purpose of ripping on whatever band is being reviewed are worthless. That's right you're worthless. Bringing down bands who are trying their hardest to make good music is about the lamest thing you can do. Obviously none of you guys out there who are saying things like "that's not music" and "these guys are posers" are not musicians yourselves. Because if you were, you would know exactly what kind of work it takes to go on tour, and write music, and try to survive being a musician. . A lot of these bands, even though they seem to be popular among the scene, still don't make all that much money, but they keep doing it because they love MUSIC. Any true fan of MUSIC can always find something good about every band. Anyone who truly loves noise, and the sound of instruments meshing together to form songs would not be ripping on every band out there like some of you guys do. It's impossible to sum up everything that goes through my head when I read some of the things you guys say about bands. MUSIC IS NOTHING MORE THAN ORGANIZED NOISE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN WAY." Scott: Although Scott has a point, you should really think about just letting up a little and giving the rveiewer some credit. Even if it was not perfect grammar, it wasn't hard to read at all, and you understood everything he said. So next time you write the review instead of bashing on his. Oops...Read Below. Sickboi, I think all of you people who just come in here and write with the sole purpose of ripping on whatever band is being reviewed are worthless. That's right you're worthless. Bringing down bands who are trying their hardest to make good music is about the lamest thing you can do. Obviously none of you guys out there who are saying things like "that's not music" and "these guys are posers" are not musicians yourselves. Because if you were, you would know exactly what kind of work it takes to go on tour, and write music, and try to survive being a musician. . A lot of these bands, even though they seem to be popular among the scene, still don't make all that much money, but they keep doing it because they love MUSIC. Any true fan of MUSIC can always find something good about every band. Anyone who truly loves noise, and the sound of instruments meshing together to form songs would not be ripping on every band out there like some of you guys do. It's impossible to sum up everything that goes through my head when I read some of the things you guys say about bands. MUSIC IS NOTHING MORE THAN ORGANIZED NOISE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN WAY. the second night at the Riviera was better. To Scott the local felon dude- sellouts or not.....it doesn't matter ,these bands just plain suck the big one. By chance I glanced at NFG playing at Warped a year ago and I was thoroughly disgusted by these guys in their late 20's singing about 12 year old girls. There needs to be a tour that focuses on real music, not garbage. It eould be so cool to have a big festival tour like Warped except have some real and interesting punk, reggae, hardcore, metal, and rap bands. New Found Glory is the same as the Backstreet Boys, only NFG carry instruments that they can't play. Annihilate.....Annihilate......Annihilate.....Annihilate........ ..Annihilate.........Annihilate.........Annihilate- THESE "BANDS" These bands can't play tyheir instruments and they are about as creative and original as Britney Spears. This IS NOT music. Finch doesnt want to the the Deftones, they want to be Glassjaw. Look at the freaking artwork for "What it is to Burn" and "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Silence". Its embarrassing. The music to too similar I don't even need to start on that. Its ok to suck, but its not ok to be hopelessly unoriginal. Disposable music for a disposable world. Then again, this world has always been disposable. But the music hasn't always. I was at the Warped Tour in 2001 to see Pennywise and Fear kick out the hard jams and while waiting 5 hours to see them I watched the endless parade of shitty clone bands. I saw New Found Glory "play" and they were utterly terrible, these guys who were utterly out of shape and sang like they hadn't yet hit puberty. They were so safe sounding, it was like the soundtrack for a disney film or something, it was so directed towards children, then came on Sum 41 and they were equally terrible. H20 then came on and damn, I have never seen a band go downhill so fast, they sounded like they were trying to imitate New Found Glory, it was very, very sad. This isn't music, this is garbage. It's just candy. Good Evening.. why oh why oh why oh why would you sit around and read a review of bands you hate sooooooooo badly with such passion?!!?! Seems a bit, uhhhh, poserish... To the reviewer: My apologies, but a few posts down there is mention of a Shai Halud influence in NFG. ps - the fat bass player from fsf... when he was playing, he started bangin his head to the music and i got a fuckin shower in the fat bastards sweat... not cool "Gay. Just...gay. All of it." Hey Mr. Savetheday81 nerd guy who stays online for over a day at a time on AIM... Are you a complete idiot? Can't you understand sarcasm? New Found Glory put on an awful show when I saw them at Inland Invasion. Absolutely one of the worst performances I've seen, aside from Blink 182's set that day. Wuss: I went to the Seattle show (night 2). I didn't mean to imply I went to the same one. simply : crowd surfing SUCKS man, i really hate people that call them selves punk...go somewhere else....if you dont like the music then fuck off....im glad fags like you dont go to the shows, or are afraid to be your "punk" selves, cuz all the shows ive been to, no matter whos playing, its always been about the music and the scene....we all like the same things and we all get along, if you think your "punk" just because your different then fine thats you, noone gives a fuck about you. and not liking a band cuz they have fans its the most fucking stupid thing ive ever heard. you can talk online but IM me at savetheday81 and well work out a place to where we can meet and you can bring your tire iron and ill fuck you up....so bring your shit man..... rip on you some more? no problem you little pop "punk" faggot. so which band, nfg or something corporate, did you sell your body to to get into the show? faggot. I'm the most punk person ever... I hate every band... You name it, I hate it. I have my own band that I hate, that's how FUCKING punk rock I am. I just noticed that someone who was also ripping on my grammer spelled sentence "sentance" He also called me a "Wannabee" Hah man Im so much better than all the people who ripped on me. Hah Wow you guys are big losers. By the way I am the original writer of this review. I would like all of you to know that everytime you guys rip on me my writing style or about the concert I laugh my ass off. Just because I happen to like these so called "Pop Punk" acts does not mean that it is the only type of music that I listen to. By the way S/C did play "Punk Rock Princess." To whoever say they didn't. And another thing to the so called "punks" who kept ripping on the crowd surfing you had to have been there and seen the security guards faces to understand why it was so funny. Hmm what else. Oh yes I have been to the metro and fireside. (I saw ALK3 at the metro last week actually great show) but in my OPINION the HOB is better. Oh and also is it just me or does every person who comes to this site hate everyband ever? Come on now "punks" I know that you all claim to be true "punk rockers" and everything but if you knew anything about punk rock you would understand that the whole idea of "punk" itself is not to care what others think and do what you want when you want and like what you like. how come the guy below me said that something corporate didn't play "punk rock princess" but the reviewer said they did. weird I was going to write a review for this show, but I decided not to. Maybe I should have, because this one is fucking terrible. I agree with the guy two posts down... Something Corporate is a horrible horrible "band" they are from Dana Point which isn't too far from me and they suck soooooooo much. Too bad they got big, now even more people had to be subjected to these assclowns. to the idiot a few down, not that I agree with you, but let's say that you are right and that the bands wont be around because the pre-teen and teen kids have all grown up. Well, have you ever thought that more kids will become pre-teen kids and teenagers? This bunch we have right now isn't the last you dumbshit, so those bands could lose fans, and then gain new ones, if your theory stands correctly. But, we all know, it doesn't Now, I generally like DTR bands. I like pop punk. Lets just get that out of the way. I must say however, that Something Corporate is the worst band I have ever seen. They have NO stage presence and they butcher their own songs! Horrible horrible performance by this group of monkeys. Wow. I have to say I never thought scott would sink so low as to publish such a horrible review. The writing style of a ten year old coupled fucking moronic content, could this be any worse? I think I can sum up my critique of your review with the following sentance: "and just because a lot of you hate poppy music or saw this song on mtv doesn't mean that these bands all suck" Seriously, maybe you should concentrate more on how to write instead of asking your mom to drive you to a concert. I mean...you can't be any older than 13 now can you? This would be a good show to see, all of the bands for that matter. They all put on very good live sets, and just because a lot of you hate poppy music or saw this song on mtv doesn't mean that these bands all suck. Even something corporate is good live. NFG has a song called 'Boy Crazy'?! Wow! I've never heard any of the bands that you went to see. Damn, they sound like they kick ass and they must be great punk bands. Now I'm not the one to be defining what punk is and I dont throw around accusations as to who is punk and who isn't, but golly, Something Corporate? sounds like 'no bullshit punk' to me! Since everyone either hates or loves most of these bands (I fall in to the former, but that's neither here nor there) it's kind of pointless to criticize someone else for liking them. My only request is that if you are going to write a show review, please learn how to speak proper English. I'm not asking for perfection, but I've never seen anyone over the age of 12 write this poorly. A painfully minimal vocabulary combined with fragment after fragment makes for torturous reading. Do us all a favor; buy a thesaurus and a book on grammar before you write another review. this gig would be about as good as your ma This kind of garbage makes me want to ...."disconnect myself, I wanna break it down, yeah, disconnect myself, yeah!"- now there's a good liove band. damn, someone posted right before i did, so then two down from my first post. that comment right below me is genious, and incredibly true at that. House of blues is your favorite venue in chicago? thats really sad. the metro and the fireside are both so much better. the sound usually sucks at the house of blues and the way the whole venue is setup is not really that great I'm not even going to Acknowledge this travesty trying to pass as a musical perfomrance. "overall, i'd say this CONCERT was up there as far as some . . . " I wanted to go to this show, but it is sold out. Anyway, all the bands are really good, and I am very surprised Finch played after SC. My thrice/hot water review will be up soon (I hope) "If I have to sit through another one of their sets, I'll rip my spinal cord out and feed it to myself." "God..FTF sounds like every other band in their genre pop-friendly crap trying to be punk. Horrible...NFG was killer, and made up for the first two shitty acts. An amazing NFG set. Gay. Just...gay. All of it. "...there's this thing at rock concerts called crowd surfing that people do, so let's see some of it." God..FTF sounds like every other band in their genre pop-friendly crap trying to be punk. Horrible. Why is Further Seems Forever with these talentless excuses for bands. NFG wants to be Blink. Finch wants to be the Deftones, and Something Corporate wants to be Ben Folds for mall-punk girls. FSF is one of the most incredible bands I've ever heard, but there's no way I could listen to the rest of the crap playing with them. dont you love it when fans all jump in unison!? fuck off. I could see ween and there would be less wussitude than there is in that show I'd rather lick a truckstop toilet seat..... stop saying "overall" so much, get a damn thesaurus, sorry that just annoyed me when I read this...or maybe it was so many shitty bands in just one review that annoyed me more...I'm not certain this score is also for further seems forever. i would give scores to nfg, something corp and finch, but the lowest you can give them is a positive number. Finch played over Something Corporate? Wow. I thought SoCo was co-headlining this tour, not Finch. |
