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New Found Glory / Finch / Something Corporate / Further Seems Forever

New Found Glory/Finch/Something Corporate/Further Seems Forever: live in Chicagolive in Chicago (2002)
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Reviewer Rating: 4.5
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Contributed by: SteveSteve
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I was actually really looking forward to this show. Even though the only band I had not seen live was Finch. I was looking forward to this show because first it was playing at my favorite venue (If you have never seen a concert at the House of Blues Chicago you don't know what your missing) and seco.


I was actually really looking forward to this show. Even though the only band I had not seen live was Finch. I was looking forward to this show because first it was playing at my favorite venue (If you have never seen a concert at the House of Blues Chicago you don't know what your missing) and second because it had four great bands on the same bill. I arrived about a half-hour early and there was already a big crowd outside. Not to my surprise at all there were a lot of fourteen year old girls waiting no doubt to sing a long to "My friends over you" that they saw on MTV and heard on the radio. But I was still looking forward to a good show. As my friend and I went in I went over to the side of the venue where the bar was. I was right up close as the first band "further seems forever" began.

I had seen this band before at the Warped tour and was impressed and anxious to see how they would do here. The lead singer of this band had a lot of energy and worked the crowd a lot. He jumped in with the front part of the crowd and let some of the kids up front who knew the words to their songs to sing into the mic. And the drummer of Further seems Forever had what seemed like a really small drum set. But it was loud enough. All In all I say I really enjoyed Further Seems Forever's set.

Next up was Something Corporate. After a sort of long time of setting up S/C took the stage. They opened up with an energetic performance of "Hurricane". The crowd sung along with all of the songs during S/C's set. They also went nuts whenever the lead singer had a piano solo. During a point at the show the lead singer said "you know theres this thing at rock concerts called crowd surfing that people do so lets see some of it. At that point the whole place went nuts and almost everyone started to crowd surf. As S/C played their song "Punk Rock Princess" they made the whole place jump up and down during the chorus. There were so many people jumping the floor started to shake. As they ended with their single "If U C Jordan"-(Which I think is one of the weaker songs on their album) the crowd sang along to every word and the lead singer jumped on the piano and started banging on it. Overall Id say S/C put on a great set.

Next was Finch. A lot of people came there specifically to see them. To sum up their performance in one word I would say Intense. The lead singer sounded great vocally. So did the rest of the band they put on a great set and Id definitely go to see them again.

Next up was the headlining band New Found Glory. Now I know a lot of people hate NFG. But with NFG its you like them or you hate them. I personally like them. I first heard about them right before their self-titled album came out. Which I think was their best one. And I was hooked. I don't know what it was about them but there catchy fun and energetic. But as the band came on they played a great set. Playing songs from Sticks and Stones, self titled, and even a few off of Nothing Gold can Stay. Including 2's and 3's. They really work the crowd and are always in sync with each other. The crowd went nuts to them singing along with pretty much every song. (Although most of them stopped when they played songs off "Nothing Gold can Stay") The Band left the stage and said good night but everyone kept shouting "One more song One more song". They came back on and played "Boy Crazy" and finished up with "My friends over you " Overall NFG put on a great set of songs.

Overall I'd say this concert was up there as far as some of the best shows I have seen. Mainly because all four bands were great. Although it came far behind the best live band ever-(Greenday) it was an incredible show.

 

 
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Anonymous (February 18, 2003)

I do pity a lot of you, with such a total lack of identity that you feel you have to cling to a particular fashion/way of life.I'm talking about all you supposed "punks": "This show is the worst ive ever seen, these bands are pop, i want to smash your face in for listening to these bands, you shouldn't listen to this, you should listen to real punk, like *insert suitably non-pop sounding band*. I think you should be strung up and shot"
seriously, some of you people need to get some anger management counselling. Its not healthy to be this pissed off with a few bands and the people who like them. I don't feel its necessary to cling onto a particular musical ethos or genre - you should like what sounds good to you. Granted , its a bonus if the music you like is accompanied by a political or social agenda, i.e propagandhi for me, but I think music is a form of entertainment first and foremost. Why sit through something you don't enjoy in order to be classified "punk"? Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of punk music, particularly strung out,nofx,rancid,lagwagon, that kinda thing. I also download any particular song I think sounds good, for instance I just downloaded a Boxcar Racer song. The point is, I wouldn't necessarily treat music as a lifestyle choice. Listen to what you enjoy. I have a something corporate record, i listen to a bit of finch. So what?
Chuck

Anonymous (November 14, 2002)

Poop on a plate!!!!

Anonymous (November 14, 2002)

I meant "VJ" not dj

Anonymous (November 14, 2002)

ALL is good, but I personally like Descendents much better. But to each his own.

Anonymous (November 14, 2002)

My all time favorite band that sounds so POP but is a punk band is ALL.

much better than these foolios.

Anonymous (November 14, 2002)

sounds like a nightmare

Anonymous (November 14, 2002)

YES!, the stooges fucking rocked. I've been listening to the Stooge's "Funhouse" and Black Flag's "Radio Tokyo Demos" every morning this week to get ready for work. But, to comment on this show I only have a couple things to say.....poop on a plate, because that's what this show is.- Brandon Sideleau

Anonymous (November 14, 2002)

playing an encore at all, stupid and weak.

waste_elite (November 14, 2002)

on a totally unrelated note and since you mentioned em, the stooges are so fucking great. i've been on a stooges kick all week. s/t and fun house have to be on my list of all time favorite albums.

they play TV Eye on some car commercial these days. interesting to say the least.

Anonymous (November 13, 2002)

This guy said Green Day was the best live band ever- now he deserves no credit. While I will be honest that I saw Green Day a couple years ago at Warped and they put on a pretty decent show, considering they were a pop punk band and I wasn't expecting much. They weren't "awesome", but they were very tight and energetic. But, the truth is, if you think Green Day is/was the best live band ever then you need to get out from under the pop, mainstream rock you live. Maybe in MTV world they are the "best live band ever", but in the real world I can name 500 bands that would turn them into pudding on stage, past and present. I mean, you need to listen to past music and excellent live bands (ie. Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Black Flag, The Damned, The Misfits, The Circle Jerks, The Dead Kennedys, DOA, The Doors, MC5, The Stooges, Fear) and present great live acts (Bad Religion, though older, are still around and had a legendary show at the Whiskey last January, Pennywise is good live, Rollins Band is great live, Danzig is great, Death By Stereo, Less Than Jake, Good Riddance).

Anonymous (November 13, 2002)

playing the hit single as the encore, stupid and weak.

RightCliqificus (November 13, 2002)

I swear this is supposed to be a punk website. Why is all this pop stuff always on here. New found glory, finch, backstreet boys, avril lavigne, Saves the day, etc.

Anonymous (November 13, 2002)

lol i can't help but comment as well. i just read all your comments... and god helps, you all need jack off. seriously man, it helps you forget what punk is and is not. it helps you forget how suck or great some bands are. or come on men, or boys, make out with your girlfriends.

speaking of punkrock, these bands fucking suck. all of them. they should stop trying to sound like a happy meal combo of nofx and deftones and.. what else? glassjaw? fuck them all.

ok i'm gonna jack off now.

- n'deso

Anonymous (November 13, 2002)

Why the fuck is it so trendy nowadays to LIKE Finch? They have to be the worst fucking band on the drive-thru label, and when you're making that comparison with bands like Allister/The Starting Line you know they're fucking horrible. Who likes that screamo whiney shit anyway? I guess enough people to make hot topic sell their shirts and promote their albums in the front cart. I saw them this summer at warped tour and it was a bunch of 12 year old abercrombie clad girls jumping up on stage, leaning back into the crowd then being pushed back up on stage and thinking they were 'like oh mah gawd crowdsurfing.' sad.

waste_elite (November 12, 2002)

"None of these bands are pop punk bands....they are POP bands...period"

yeah, that about sums it up.

on a semi-related note, i had the misfortune of seeing allister open up for flogging molly about a week ago. fucking awful to say the least. all the little girls left after their set was over, which was a plus.

interesting grouping i would say that night

Allister, Andrew WK, Flogging Molly... what the fuck?

Anonymous (November 12, 2002)

I think Lawrence Arms and Dillinger are great pop punk bands, as were The Ramones and the Descendents (whom could play hardcore as well). NOFX is decent pop punk too, Good Riddance does good pop punk when they aren't doing great hardcore. Bad Religion has done some pop punk songs and a lot speed y fast songs as well. I just really hate the garbage labeled pop punk this year, like New Found Glory, Allister, Simple Plan, and Something Corporate, which are all pop groups.

Anonymous (November 12, 2002)

None of these bands are pop punk bands....they are POP bands...period. They arent rock, they areny indie, they arent.....whatever, its just pop.

waste_elite (November 12, 2002)

Alkaline Trio, Lawrence Arms, Dillinger Four are all good "pop-punk" bands (calling them pop-punk may be debatable). there are tons more, that's just what pops into my head. then you got the classic Ramones and Descendents.

Anonymous (November 11, 2002)

Since this is a terrible review, I wanna start a thread about what pop-punk bands ARE good. What are some good pop-punk bands?

Anonymous (November 11, 2002)

Hey I heard in Boston they make you do something... You know what they make you do..... They make you toss the salad. Thats right toss the mother fucking salad. Boston sucks always has always will. No wonder Larry Bird got his ass the fuck outta there. Oh and lets not get started in your Red Sox.

Anonymous (November 11, 2002)

I'm an idiot and I deserve to die. I'm so sick of being an idiot. But, as you can tell by my name, I am eternally one. I am confessing to you people. I will probably regret this tomorrow, but I really am stupid. Sorry for my right wing idiotic comments.

*****Wus-Emo-Rock*****

BostonMusicGuy (November 11, 2002)

this review takes the cake as worst on the site. I just read the whole thing... i hadnt before just skimmed.... and this has to be the biggest piece of garbage ever. My reviews are no prize winners but I mean come on commenting on how a band was great because they were "are always in sync with each other"... fuck they better be in sync with eachother. Oh yea and that thing where they shouted "one more song" its called an encore... I hope you werent surprised when they played one. Oh and Finch, the only band that deserves more than 2 sentences in that review got only 2 sentences... worthless. Finch were the only band i enjoyed at this show. I am fucking pissed I had to go.-BostonMusicGuy

waste_elite (November 11, 2002)

there's no fucking point in trying to evaluate and define what punk is because it is something different to everyone. save your breath. seriously, ask 10 different people what they think it means and you will get 10 different responses, none of which could be considered right or wrong. it's a waste of time.

Anonymous (November 11, 2002)

agreed.
and you people make it seem like in the "good ol days" everyone was an individual. maybe right when it started, but after that, there was just as much conforming as there is now.

WussEmoRock (November 11, 2002)

Just so everyone knows...none of us care what YOU think punk is. We do not care at all, because we all know that YOU ARE NOT PUNK. Either am I. So stop these dumb arguements, it is a waste of time

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

Anonymous (November 11, 2002)

Sometimes there are some weak reviews written on the site but this one might take the cake. This person's "review" of finch was hardly noticable to someone quickly skimming. I actually did a double take because I thought there was an error in the way he spaced the paragraphs. Nice going sailor. For some reason everyone loves to praise FSF with this great originality that I fail to see. Sure the guys in the band are all incredible musicians, but on a general listen it doesn't really stand out in my head. I do applaud them for getting a new lead singer that looks EXACTLY like the old one.(I guess getting a tattooed dude with plugs and dark hair isn't that hard these days anyway) I don't know much about Something Corporate besides the video one of my friends subjected me to, but being an avid Ben Folds fan, I find it extremely hard to believe that they are even in the same musical realm. Finch played my college last year, and I got to see up close and personally what a waste of time they are. As someone said a little downfurther, just because ya "scream" doesn't set you apart. Disposable just like the rest of the Drive Thru lineup..In a couple of years when this current musical trend is past,Drive Thru will be signing the Voodoo Glow Skulls and any other punk has been that was a marque name in 1997. And to pick on NFG...It's like picking on the special ed kid in gym. Isn't TOO easy of a target?
Food for thought.
-tbones

Anonymous (November 11, 2002)

Everybody has their own opinion......for me punk is about doing about being completely independent in your beliefs, thoughts and way of life. Meaning that everything I believe or do is based entirely on organic thoughts from within my own head. That's why religion, politics and genres are all bullshit.

waste_elite (November 11, 2002)

wow, what a profound statement there below...

Anonymous (November 11, 2002)

We didnâ??t create shit. Letâ??s get that out in the open. People have to call themselves punk so they can segregate themselves from anything that could be construed as popular music or culture. Bands like NFG would not be considered punk by any eraâ??s definition of the word punk. Not because their music consists of only three chords at best but because they dress how punks are supposed to dress. Punk rock was about individuality. Yet there is a whole LARGE culture of kids and adults who are conforming to what the current hip punk look is. ask your self this when you go to the shopping mall and see 5 other kids with liberty spikes how they are being an individual? Would they have liberty spikes if the guy from rancid or good charlotte did not have them? Probably not.
I read this site only because I find the reviews to be funny. The only reason I am even saying anything now is because there is a what is punk and what is not argument brewing. Punk rock is simply to be your own person and not what the masses (regardless of their social standing or group membership) are telling you to do. People should dress and act how they want. If you truly want liberty spikes, then do it. donâ??t change your style to try to fit into a group. Do what you want.

Anonymous (November 11, 2002)

"because if you have actually heard punk half the people on this site would hate "punk",thrice and whoever are nowhere close to what the standards of yesterdays punk was, hell, none of these bands should be mentioned in the same sentence with "punk" our punk is way different, we created something that really doesn't need a name, who gives a shit about words like emo,hardcore,punk,emocore,indie,and all that other crap, its music for gods sake,enjoy it, if it appeals to someone then i guess the band is doing what they wanted to do, lets all try to respect an opinion,or do we have to bash each other because one person likes something that another doesn't. Listen to the music and enjoy it while we can, fuckers"

Bravo.

Anonymous (November 11, 2002)

wow house of blues, your fav venue?
jesus you are a Poser. yes, i hate to use the word poser, but anyone who really likes NFG and thinks the house of blues is the best venue in chicago can be nothing but a poser.

Anonymous (November 10, 2002)

glass jaw is terrible. most overrated band ever. NFG isn't in their late 20's, and Finch needs to write songs that don't use the same progression with the groove picking pattern. Something Corporate: no. and FSF has alot of heart and love for their music. that's all that counts.

Anonymous (November 10, 2002)

Wuss-Emo-Rock,

Constructive criticism...I had a huge grammar problem, just trying to spread the word. He'll need it.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/~uw/
(The Ring, isn't very good either)

evildeadalive (November 10, 2002)

bleh.

BostonMusicGuy (November 10, 2002)

I saw this in Worcester... it was awful. Further Seems Forever... sucks my ass. Finch... was great no complaints about them. Something Corporate... the only song I wanted to see them play was Konstantine... and they didnt. New Found Glory... ussually like them... didnt this time... probably wont in the future. They are good the first time you see them then they just become repetitive. I realized for the first time (amazingly the first time) they they really dont have one single song that isnt about a girl... except some cover songs which dont count if you ask me. NFG is boring me. The score is for Finch.-BostonMusicGuy

krowdsurf (November 10, 2002)

You guys listen to that old busted stuff. I listen to the new hotness. You, old and busted. Me, new hotness.

Anonymous (November 10, 2002)

this reviewer said they arrived half an hour before the show and "there was already a big crowd outside".

what the hell did you expect, honestly.

Anonymous (November 10, 2002)

I'd rather stay at home and listen to a bunch of records.

WussEmoRock (November 10, 2002)

to all the people who bash me, what tour would you want to see more?

this tour here, or a tour with reel big fish, simple plan, mest and Allister?

Theres a brain buster for you

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

Anonymous (November 10, 2002)

"Referring to the person that said the people's comments should just slide off my back is right, and I've been doing that for years. I just finally got so damn sick of everyone saying "they're posers" and "that's not even music" and things like that. I mean, the whole label thing is getting a little out of hand. I heard someone call a band hardcore-emo-pop-punk the other day? What is that? Call it music. Describe the way that band sounds dynamically, describe the singers voice, compare them to other bands that sound similar to them...or if they have their own style then say so. But I really wish people would stop classifying music. It makes people who would otherwise like the music turn away from it because someone called it "pop-punk" or "hardcore-emo". "

i don't see how that relates to what i said, but it is definitely right on.

Anonymous (November 10, 2002)

because if you have actually heard punk half the people on this site would hate "punk",thrice and whoever are nowhere close to what the standards of yesterdays punk was, hell, none of these bands should be mentioned in the same sentence with "punk" our punk is way different, we created something that really doesn't need a name, who gives a shit about words like emo,hardcore,punk,emocore,indie,and all that other crap, its music for gods sake,enjoy it, if it appeals to someone then i guess the band is doing what they wanted to do, lets all try to respect an opinion,or do we have to bash each other because one person likes something that another doesn't. Listen to the music and enjoy it while we can, fuckers

Anonymous (November 10, 2002)

personally i like finch,so they're not"punk" who gives a shit, its not like the band is all over the radio, they are just as much underground as any other "punk" band out there, besides,what the fuck is punk anyways

WussEmoRock (November 10, 2002)

Little Scotty:

Thank you for being so kind and stopping where you did, but you replied to a comment that I never made. I don't know if you actually know how to read, but I didn't say anything about you bashing on his music taste. All I said was lighten up with the whole grammar shit, give the kid a break and move on with your life. He knows he spelled words wrong, but he is not going to take his time to fix it, unlike you and that other guy who visit dictionary.com

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

Anonymous (November 10, 2002)

OMG!! OMG!! OMG!! WORST SHOW EVER!! OMG!!

waste_elite (November 10, 2002)

dear god, i can just imagine the 12 year old girls lined up to see this atrocity. giggling in the corner wearing their shirts that say "punk" and their studded belts they bought at hot topic, rambling on about the singer of this band is soooo cute. fucking shoot me, i'd rather undergo a lifetime of chinese water torture than go to this pathetic excuse for a show. if anything has the potential to "kill" punk, it's bands like this and their fans.

Anonymous (November 10, 2002)

whoever said finch sounds like glassjaw is retarded. the singer tries to sound like daryl from glassjaw but they really do not sound alike, just listen to the music , glassjaw are a 100 times better musicians, finch are like a slightly heavier pop punk band while glassjaw just has their own sound that really varies a lot

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Wuss-Emo-Rock,

If you knew me around the site, you should know I'm def. not one to make fun of someone for their taste in music...I think that is the most pathetic thing you can possibly do. I may not like some of the bands at hand, but I'm more than likely sure to keep my mouth shut on topics like that. I was just trying to offer some constructive criticism. That's what it should be taken as, not bashing, cause if you want that...Well...We'll just stop there...

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/~uw/
(Redheads = #1)

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Referring to the person that said the people's comments should just slide off my back is right, and I've been doing that for years. I just finally got so damn sick of everyone saying "they're posers" and "that's not even music" and things like that. I mean, the whole label thing is getting a little out of hand. I heard someone call a band hardcore-emo-pop-punk the other day? What is that? Call it music. Describe the way that band sounds dynamically, describe the singers voice, compare them to other bands that sound similar to them...or if they have their own style then say so. But I really wish people would stop classifying music. It makes people who would otherwise like the music turn away from it because someone called it "pop-punk" or "hardcore-emo".

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Damn those titles are good, I should check that band out. Thanks for the info. On a much lighter note, New Found Glory sucks.

krowdsurf (November 9, 2002)

I don't know about Something Corporate, but has anyone heard of Corporate Avenger? They're responsible for such radio friendly fare as "The Bible Is Bullshit," "Taxes Are Stealing," and "Christians Murdered Indians." I was in a video of theirs once. Respect me, I'm a superstar.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Finch sounds just like NFG when the guy isn't TRYING to scream.

punkcorekid (November 9, 2002)

The score is for NFG and Something Corporate. They both suck. Further Seems Forever are good for an emo/pop-punk band. Finch is a great band. Why would FSF and Finch play with NFG and So/Co ?

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

I totally agree with the person below. All of you who aren't in a band have no idea how hard it is to even get a couple of people to come to your shows.Let alone get a record deal, and then go on tour.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

"I think all of you people who just come in here and write with the sole purpose of ripping on whatever band is being reviewed are worthless. That's right you're worthless. Bringing down bands who are trying their hardest to make good music is about the lamest thing you can do. Obviously none of you guys out there who are saying things like "that's not music" and "these guys are posers" are not musicians yourselves. Because if you were, you would know exactly what kind of work it takes to go on tour, and write music, and try to survive being a musician. . A lot of these bands, even though they seem to be popular among the scene, still don't make all that much money, but they keep doing it because they love MUSIC. Any true fan of MUSIC can always find something good about every band. Anyone who truly loves noise, and the sound of instruments meshing together to form songs would not be ripping on every band out there like some of you guys do. It's impossible to sum up everything that goes through my head when I read some of the things you guys say about bands. MUSIC IS NOTHING MORE THAN ORGANIZED NOISE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN WAY."

very, very true. it takes mad amounts of work to do all those things. however, if they truly love the music, then our opinions of how much they suck should slide right off their backs. opinions are everywhere...everyone needs to learn how to deal with them.

WussEmoRock (November 9, 2002)

Scott: Although Scott has a point, you should really think about just letting up a little and giving the rveiewer some credit. Even if it was not perfect grammar, it wasn't hard to read at all, and you understood everything he said. So next time you write the review instead of bashing on his.

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Oops...Read Below.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/~uw/
(I don't wanna hear it)

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Sickboi,

I don't know when I cut up on your, but if you must know...You are one of the people that write good reviews. I was headed out on a date and didn't really have much time to go back check and look at every reviewers name.

When I do read concert reviews and almost any review, I look at the authors name first. Why? To give it more credibility and Sickboi's reviews are some of the ones I always have a tendency to read.

As for my website being a joke...Obviously. You didn't read too much into it, did you?. I have a tendency not to take it seriously, aside from the programming. It's a website that pretty much sucks now cause it's basically a Live Journal (which are lame). I'm averaging about 100 hits a day and for a dinky personal site that I started to keep my programming skills sharp I can't complain.

Webcam shot...Yes it's a Thursday ticket, excellent observation. I can only take so many annonying pictures of myself sometimes you need to take a snapshot of something a little different. I had a ticket lying infront of me, hmm...Why not?

Good one chief.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

I think all of you people who just come in here and write with the sole purpose of ripping on whatever band is being reviewed are worthless. That's right you're worthless. Bringing down bands who are trying their hardest to make good music is about the lamest thing you can do. Obviously none of you guys out there who are saying things like "that's not music" and "these guys are posers" are not musicians yourselves. Because if you were, you would know exactly what kind of work it takes to go on tour, and write music, and try to survive being a musician. . A lot of these bands, even though they seem to be popular among the scene, still don't make all that much money, but they keep doing it because they love MUSIC. Any true fan of MUSIC can always find something good about every band. Anyone who truly loves noise, and the sound of instruments meshing together to form songs would not be ripping on every band out there like some of you guys do. It's impossible to sum up everything that goes through my head when I read some of the things you guys say about bands. MUSIC IS NOTHING MORE THAN ORGANIZED NOISE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN WAY.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

the second night at the Riviera was better.

not that the show was any good.

but Matt Skiba came out and sang with NFG for about 2 seconds.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

To Scott the local felon dude-

Good job trying to rip on those of us who do show reviews. You have much room to talk shit when your website is a fucking joke. "Wow, look at my ticket for the Thursday show on my webcam". Good one tough guy.

-sickboi

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

sellouts or not.....it doesn't matter ,these bands just plain suck the big one. By chance I glanced at NFG playing at Warped a year ago and I was thoroughly disgusted by these guys in their late 20's singing about 12 year old girls. There needs to be a tour that focuses on real music, not garbage. It eould be so cool to have a big festival tour like Warped except have some real and interesting punk, reggae, hardcore, metal, and rap bands.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

New Found Glory is the same as the Backstreet Boys, only NFG carry instruments that they can't play.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Annihilate.....Annihilate......Annihilate.....Annihilate........ ..Annihilate.........Annihilate.........Annihilate- THESE "BANDS"

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

These bands can't play tyheir instruments and they are about as creative and original as Britney Spears. This IS NOT music.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Finch doesnt want to the the Deftones, they want to be Glassjaw. Look at the freaking artwork for "What it is to Burn" and "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Silence". Its embarrassing. The music to too similar I don't even need to start on that. Its ok to suck, but its not ok to be hopelessly unoriginal.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Disposable music for a disposable world. Then again, this world has always been disposable. But the music hasn't always. I was at the Warped Tour in 2001 to see Pennywise and Fear kick out the hard jams and while waiting 5 hours to see them I watched the endless parade of shitty clone bands. I saw New Found Glory "play" and they were utterly terrible, these guys who were utterly out of shape and sang like they hadn't yet hit puberty. They were so safe sounding, it was like the soundtrack for a disney film or something, it was so directed towards children, then came on Sum 41 and they were equally terrible. H20 then came on and damn, I have never seen a band go downhill so fast, they sounded like they were trying to imitate New Found Glory, it was very, very sad. This isn't music, this is garbage. It's just candy.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Good Evening..

I saw this show in Detroit. Further Seems Forever was decent, nothing too unusual.

Something Corporate DOES butcher their own songs. They are definitely the worst live band I have ever seen. The old stuff from 'Ready, Break' is acceptable, and different from their current stuff. The new album is way too polished and kind of phony, the old stuff is much more original. They are obviously talented if you listen to their old stuff, especially the lead singer, but he barely even plays the piano anymore. Its true that they are becomming a watered down MTV Ben Folds. A grim waste of talent.

Finch was the reason I was there. They were impressive, definitely what I expected. What it is to burn is an addictive CD. Overall they are solid and I felt like I got my money's worth by their set alone, even after suffering through SoCo.

NFG is very good live. Their new CD is junk aside from 4 songs but they made it sound really good. Not as good as last year's tour because they only played 2 or 3 songs from nothing gold.

8 Mile is stellar. If anyone is wondering what inner-city Detroit is like, just see the flick. All of those scenes were shot in the real places they depict. The shelter is a real venue, but it is not a real good venue. The fireside bowl is much better. I have never seen a 'battle' at the Shelter, but I did see The Stereo there. Anyone who wants to visit Detroit to see a concert look me up, there is a lot to see and do.

I do, however, agree with the majority of the criticism of the reviewer. May I suggest revising your review before submitting it or even letting a friend read it. Also, a bit more information about the show might be necessary, seeing how it is a review of said show.

Captain Crunch

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

why oh why oh why oh why would you sit around and read a review of bands you hate sooooooooo badly with such passion?!!?! Seems a bit, uhhhh, poserish...

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

To the reviewer:

I have corrected my score to properly reflect my opinion of your shitty fucking piece of 'writing.' My comment began as follows: "Wow. I have to say I never thought scott would sink so low as to publish such a horrible review..."

Your critique stated that you are somehow better than me because I mispelled the word 'sentence' in my haste to be done with a comment that obviously took as long to plan out as your entire 'thoughtful and heartfelt' review. Case in point, every review is expected to be spell checked and written on at least a highschool level before submitting, it even says on the review page "Please make sure that the information entered is 100% valid and uses proper grammar and capitalization." I don't see anything about that on comments. The fact that you composed this piece of shit previously and still failed to fix the errors present in every single 'sentence' sickens me that I even bothered submitting a review to this site in the past if this cockparty is allowed.

abileneINlove (November 9, 2002)

My apologies, but a few posts down there is mention of a Shai Halud influence in NFG.

Would the influence be evident in the angular song structure or the fist flying inciting breakdowns?

Hardcore done well is so money while NFG is not even fun to rip on.

It's a given.

PS... The score is for 8 mile, money.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

ps - the fat bass player from fsf... when he was playing, he started bangin his head to the music and i got a fuckin shower in the fat bastards sweat... not cool

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

"Gay. Just...gay. All of it."

couldn't have said it better myself... from what i read the show sounded like it sucked... as did the reviewer

to the guy who said finch wants to be the deftones = get over it, bands can be in the same genre and not want to be just like the bands that came prior to them (i.e. deftones would be an "influence") besides, if they wanted to be the deftones they could wear cool pony gear!!!!

to anyone who says fsf is amazing live = the new lead singer isn't a bitch, that's good, but the guitarist might as well not even exist i can barely remember seeing him (and i saw them on a 6" stage and i was right in front of the guy) and the bass player is fat

nfg = not good live band, not good band in general

something corporate = plain terrible and from what the reviewer wrote, he only supports my statement

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

Hey Mr. Savetheday81 nerd guy who stays online for over a day at a time on AIM... Are you a complete idiot? Can't you understand sarcasm?

Geeez... If I had my tire iron I might seriously think about kicking your ass... just for you being such an moron.

Sarcasm - look it up.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

New Found Glory put on an awful show when I saw them at Inland Invasion. Absolutely one of the worst performances I've seen, aside from Blink 182's set that day.

FatTony (November 9, 2002)

Wuss: I went to the Seattle show (night 2). I didn't mean to imply I went to the same one.

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

simply : crowd surfing SUCKS

Anonymous (November 9, 2002)

man, i really hate people that call them selves punk...go somewhere else....if you dont like the music then fuck off....im glad fags like you dont go to the shows, or are afraid to be your "punk" selves, cuz all the shows ive been to, no matter whos playing, its always been about the music and the scene....we all like the same things and we all get along, if you think your "punk" just because your different then fine thats you, noone gives a fuck about you. and not liking a band cuz they have fans its the most fucking stupid thing ive ever heard. you can talk online but IM me at savetheday81 and well work out a place to where we can meet and you can bring your tire iron and ill fuck you up....so bring your shit man.....
AS FOR THE REVIEW, i thought it was great,.....i saw FSF right after chris carraba left and everyone gave the new singer a hard time, there were like 12 people there but they were soooo good, SC is a mediocre live band, but not bad...finch kicks all ass....and as much as somepeople hate NFG, i think therye an awesome live band, and i too agree with the reviewer that the self titled cd was the best, though "itll never snow in florida" is a great song from their debut cd.....aight.....if that "punk" guy has balls hell IM me on AIIM savetheday81....bring it on punkass.....

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

rip on you some more? no problem you little pop "punk" faggot. so which band, nfg or something corporate, did you sell your body to to get into the show? faggot.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

I'm the most punk person ever... I hate every band... You name it, I hate it. I have my own band that I hate, that's how FUCKING punk rock I am.

If you even look at a guitar, then I hate. You fucking poser.

And you know why? Cause I'm true punk, and to be punk you have to like only bands that no one else likes, and since there's always at least one fan to every band (even if it is the band itself like Last Annual) then I can no longer like any band... because being punk is all about being different not about liking music

So all you posers out there who like bands can kiss my punk ass. I hate you all and if I ever see you I'm going to jack you in the face with a tire iron twelve times. F'n posers... all of you.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

I just noticed that someone who was also ripping on my grammer spelled sentence "sentance" He also called me a "Wannabee" Hah man Im so much better than all the people who ripped on me.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

Hah Wow you guys are big losers. By the way I am the original writer of this review. I would like all of you to know that everytime you guys rip on me my writing style or about the concert I laugh my ass off. Just because I happen to like these so called "Pop Punk" acts does not mean that it is the only type of music that I listen to. By the way S/C did play "Punk Rock Princess." To whoever say they didn't. And another thing to the so called "punks" who kept ripping on the crowd surfing you had to have been there and seen the security guards faces to understand why it was so funny. Hmm what else. Oh yes I have been to the metro and fireside. (I saw ALK3 at the metro last week actually great show) but in my OPINION the HOB is better. Oh and also is it just me or does every person who comes to this site hate everyband ever? Come on now "punks" I know that you all claim to be true "punk rockers" and everything but if you knew anything about punk rock you would understand that the whole idea of "punk" itself is not to care what others think and do what you want when you want and like what you like.
Oh one more thing please rip on me some more it makes me laugh.

WussEmoRock (November 8, 2002)

how come the guy below me said that something corporate didn't play "punk rock princess" but the reviewer said they did. weird

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

FatTony (November 8, 2002)

I was going to write a review for this show, but I decided not to. Maybe I should have, because this one is fucking terrible.

Anyway, to sum up my experience at this show, FSF was boring, Something Corporate sucked (it was my third time seeing them for fuck's sake...at least they didn't play "Drunk Girl" or "Punk Rock Princess"), Finch was only so-so (and I was pretty excited to see them again), and NFG rocked the house, even though Jordan was sick.

Highlights included the barrier breaking during Something Corporate's set (during the time it took to get the barrier back up, the bass player started playing the line from "Rapper's Delight" and most of the people in the crowd started saying the lyrics) and getting to sing part of a song during NFG's set (ok, it was a highlight for me).

Score is for the review, by the way.

savesthejay (November 8, 2002)

I agree with the guy two posts down... Something Corporate is a horrible horrible "band" they are from Dana Point which isn't too far from me and they suck soooooooo much. Too bad they got big, now even more people had to be subjected to these assclowns.

WussEmoRock (November 8, 2002)

to the idiot a few down, not that I agree with you, but let's say that you are right and that the bands wont be around because the pre-teen and teen kids have all grown up. Well, have you ever thought that more kids will become pre-teen kids and teenagers? This bunch we have right now isn't the last you dumbshit, so those bands could lose fans, and then gain new ones, if your theory stands correctly. But, we all know, it doesn't

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

Now, I generally like DTR bands. I like pop punk. Lets just get that out of the way. I must say however, that Something Corporate is the worst band I have ever seen. They have NO stage presence and they butcher their own songs! Horrible horrible performance by this group of monkeys.

Finch is excellent, especially live, redeeming themselves from a summer of mediocrity on the DTR stage.

NFG is always good live, the thing that saves them is Chad though, they wouldn't be half as good without the Shai Hulud/hardcore influence. Hardcore kids make punk shows fun....

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

Wow. I have to say I never thought scott would sink so low as to publish such a horrible review. The writing style of a ten year old coupled fucking moronic content, could this be any worse? I think I can sum up my critique of your review with the following sentance:

If House of Blues is your favorite venue, one would think that you'd have realized by now that the floor is dance-style and hence, shakes when people merely walk across it, much less actually move around, wannabe.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

"and just because a lot of you hate poppy music or saw this song on mtv doesn't mean that these bands all suck"

?

I assume you have never heard of these dorks live nor have listened to their cd's.

Something Corporate is a cheap ripoff of ben folds for 13-year old girls. NFG are the backstreet boys only with instruments and Finch are for the fools who believe they're different because he tries to yell here and there.

What they all have in common are that they play to the pre-teen and teenager crowd with redundant songs about girls and send drive-thru laughing all the way to the bank because they won't be around 5-10 years from now when those kids grow up.

Just ask the bay city rollers...

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

Seriously, maybe you should concentrate more on how to write instead of asking your mom to drive you to a concert. I mean...you can't be any older than 13 now can you?

Oh well, maybe when you grow up you will actually discover some real music instead of this garbage

WussEmoRock (November 8, 2002)

This would be a good show to see, all of the bands for that matter. They all put on very good live sets, and just because a lot of you hate poppy music or saw this song on mtv doesn't mean that these bands all suck. Even something corporate is good live.
*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

NFG has a song called 'Boy Crazy'?!

someone please shoot me

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

Wow! I've never heard any of the bands that you went to see. Damn, they sound like they kick ass and they must be great punk bands. Now I'm not the one to be defining what punk is and I dont throw around accusations as to who is punk and who isn't, but golly, Something Corporate? sounds like 'no bullshit punk' to me!

(hitting self in face with frying pan)

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

Since everyone either hates or loves most of these bands (I fall in to the former, but that's neither here nor there) it's kind of pointless to criticize someone else for liking them. My only request is that if you are going to write a show review, please learn how to speak proper English. I'm not asking for perfection, but I've never seen anyone over the age of 12 write this poorly. A painfully minimal vocabulary combined with fragment after fragment makes for torturous reading. Do us all a favor; buy a thesaurus and a book on grammar before you write another review.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

this gig would be about as good as your ma

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

This kind of garbage makes me want to ...."disconnect myself, I wanna break it down, yeah, disconnect myself, yeah!"- now there's a good liove band.

pwfanatic (November 8, 2002)

damn, someone posted right before i did, so then two down from my first post.

pwfanatic (November 8, 2002)

that comment right below me is genious, and incredibly true at that.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

House of blues is your favorite venue in chicago? thats really sad. the metro and the fireside are both so much better. the sound usually sucks at the house of blues and the way the whole venue is setup is not really that great

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

I'm not even going to Acknowledge this travesty trying to pass as a musical perfomrance.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

"overall, i'd say this CONCERT was up there as far as some . . . "
indeed, this was a concert with all the crowd surfing(come on, it isn't a rock CONCERT without crowd surfing, and if there is no crowd surfing, then you know you're at one lame ass show) and jumping in unison. fuck ripping out your spinal cord. i would rather get ass raped by gorillas than go see a CONCERT like this.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

I wanted to go to this show, but it is sold out. Anyway, all the bands are really good, and I am very surprised Finch played after SC. My thrice/hot water review will be up soon (I hope)

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock***** (at school)

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

"If I have to sit through another one of their sets, I'll rip my spinal cord out and feed it to myself."

Now, I'm no doctor, but that sounds a little impossible to me. Maybe you could have the spinal cord removed by a surgeon, but that would probably be very expensive & I'm not sure if an insurance company would pay for it.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

"God..FTF sounds like every other band in their genre pop-friendly crap trying to be punk. Horrible...NFG was killer, and made up for the first two shitty acts. An amazing NFG set.

a) You're comments removed all validity when you can't even get the bands initials right.

b) FSF, is far more original than NFG bud.

Now the review...I hate these damn show reviews! Seriously...There was a few good Plea for Peace ones and Scott can write a solid show review but the rest of you, for lack of better words...SUCK!

The author seemed to like Finch so much that he could only sum up their performace in what, two sentences?

Do the people that write this shit actually read it before they turn it in? I'd be ashamed to say I wrote something so, ugh boring.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/~uw/
(I'm only mad cause I cut myself shaving)

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

Gay. Just...gay. All of it.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

"...there's this thing at rock concerts called crowd surfing that people do, so let's see some of it."

Ok, crowd surfing sucks. Having to tell people to crown surf makes you suck. I'd like to go to one of these fem shows with little MTV kids crowd surfing just to punch them in their 14 year old kidneys & laugh at them when they fall on their heads.

....& maybe rob them too, they probably got mom or dad's credit card on them.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

God..FTF sounds like every other band in their genre pop-friendly crap trying to be punk. Horrible.
SoCo: If I have to listen to another of their "sets" I"ll rip my spinal cord out and feed it to myself.
Finch was great.
NFG was killer, and made up for the first two shitty acts. An amazing NFG set.

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

Why is Further Seems Forever with these talentless excuses for bands. NFG wants to be Blink. Finch wants to be the Deftones, and Something Corporate wants to be Ben Folds for mall-punk girls. FSF is one of the most incredible bands I've ever heard, but there's no way I could listen to the rest of the crap playing with them.

ambiotical_sophisticrat (November 8, 2002)

dont you love it when fans all jump in unison!? fuck off.

"The lead singer sounded great vocally." how the fuck else would he sound great? jesus h. christ.

Dubar (November 8, 2002)

I could see ween and there would be less wussitude than there is in that show

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

I'd rather lick a truckstop toilet seat.....

-sickboi

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

stop saying "overall" so much, get a damn thesaurus, sorry that just annoyed me when I read this...or maybe it was so many shitty bands in just one review that annoyed me more...I'm not certain

Anonymous (November 8, 2002)

this score is also for further seems forever. i would give scores to nfg, something corp and finch, but the lowest you can give them is a positive number.

maverick (November 8, 2002)

Finch played over Something Corporate? Wow. I thought SoCo was co-headlining this tour, not Finch.

By the way, this score is for Further Seems Forever.

-Scott

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