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Published on November 15th 2002
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Oh yeah, I agree they are more popular, I'm just saying that all of Thrices popularity isn't necassarily(god, I have no idea how to spell that word) coming from Thurdays coattails. to the anonymous guy, you really do have a good head on your shoulders. seriously! AND, I have been listening to C&C lately, and I am actually starting to get use to his voice, and even finding myself enjoying it at some parts. It is growing...HWM, well, they aren't. sorry "I know a hell of a lot of people who like Thrice, and almost no one who like Thursday. Myself included." Should we look at cd sales, magazine articles, and mtv2 video rotations to prove my point? Sure that does not mean their a better band, but it does prove their more popular. reviewer: I was going to start this w/ a "you're fucking clueless" response...but i will admit i thought the same things when i saw coheed the first time, and when i heard hot water too. I suggest you listen to a coheed CD. and as for hot water, i personally think they're a perfect example of what a band sticking together and challenging themselves a little can do...they keep writing progressively better songs on the whole (i know a few of their earlier songs are their best ever, as with most bands, etc) and their live show is absolutely one of the best you'll ever see. I know a hell of a lot of people who like Thrice, and almost no one who like Thursday. Myself included. who cares if thrice has "been doing their own thing" in california for a couple of years they would not be nearly as popular as they are now without Thursday, thats a fact. Go and read any magazine article featuring thursday and they will mention Thrice as a band that has the same sound. So when some trendy kids see this they automatically think thrice is cool. "See you down in Arizona Bay." "Man who ever reviewed this show is a piece of shi.t that fuc.king right a piece of shi.t, Coheed and Cambria is the best most original band at this time and no good dam internet show reviewer from califagitfornia is going to defile thier name. I like this web site, but i hope to never see one of your posts again" i saw this show in richmond virginia when hot water music was headlining like they should have been there. You must not have paid attentiion at all to the set at all. Buy the CD forever and counting and dig the fucking wax out of your ears. By the way visit www.froth.org did that kid actually say "califagitfornia"? anyways going WAY back to "whats wrong with illusion of safety?" Man who ever reviewed this show is a piece of shi.t that fuc.king right a piece of shi.t, Coheed and Cambria is the best most original band at this time and no good dam internet show reviewer from califagitfornia is going to defile thier name. I like this web site, but i hope to never see one of your posts again you are a dumb ass for writing a review like this. Coheed is one of the best bands right now and gets better every time they come to town. You should take a quick kick in the sack for bad mouthing them, along with bashing the great hot water music. You're a large ass slap. And saying that coheed is a joke is pretty fuckin cleaver, if your brains are in your ass. Buy coheeds cd, then see them live, and if you aren't impressed, you can go listen to your NFG. fag Yeah, maybe they could use a bit of a break between albums to write up beter material. But you know what? What they do now is much bette than a lot of bands do who spend years in between putting out albums. And to tell the truth, they have so many albums out I couldn't even tell you which one I like best, but throw any of the ones I've listened to on and I'd be bobbing my head and probably singing along. I don't get everyone's beef with the HWM's epitaph releases. Different? Yes. Still really good? Yes. HWM is one of the most talented, energetic, passionate, and prolific artists in music today. I know that it's all a matter of opinion, but Thrice has nothing on them. and my spelling sucks. To everyone dismissing Hot Water Music as boring, I guarantee that you are basing your opinion on their releases since signing to epitaph. I dislike everything post No Division, but their earlier stuff is some of the most incredible music I have ever heard in my life. Wuss- "To that guy who claims that him and "Trevor" from face to face are such good pals...I don't think he'd appreciate you spelling his name wrong. Your on crack if you think all of face to face's records are "crap"..." Score for stoopid people. Anyone who doesn't like HWM, well they just don't have a soul. Simple as that. Thrice is okay, but after you hear other bands, they just dont seem as good. Their singer's voice is too generic. Hot Water Music is awesome, Caution is awesome, but i didn't like Flight & Crash that much. Some guy a few comments down defended Hot Water Music as being great because "they're always writing new songs." Great melodies, varied song structure, amazing double vocals, powerful lyrics, passionate delivery, a great sense of dynamics, an overwhelming sense of honesty and excellent song-writing. That's why I love HWM. For the life of me, I will never understand what you all see in HWM. I can understand how soe of you might enjoy them, but from the overall reaction of this site it always seems like they are everyones favorite band. Explain how that works. What the fuck is up with that man? Hot Water Music is such an incredible band. They're constantly touring and constantly writing new songs, and definately a band to look forward to whenever they're playing. Live they're incredible as well, they sound great and have incredible energy. I've seen em 3 times now in the past year and a half, and I'd never have any problems seeing them again. Ok, hold on let me get something straight. This scene isn't supposed to care about dress or any other type of materialistic bullshit right? So why does it matter so much what someone wears? When did music become a fucking fashion? Is wearing a "cool" band's shirt better than wearing hurley? That is just as much worrying about fashion as anyone else. Why do people have to look like the fucking music they listen to? Why do people have to be so defensive? Why isn't it cool for someone to look at you and not know what kind of music you listen to? I used to love this scene but now it is starting to make me sick! Trendy is not just wearing Abercrombie, it's also giving it to the idea that the music you listen to dictates what you look like. The great this is, I know someone is going to have something to say about this also. Fucking respect music! Seriously people, when did it become cool to hate Thrice? WussEmo is an idiot, he is a moron and he knows it. Hell, just ignore him! > hold the phone...this kid likes thrice? i deem this review null and void. There's a very simple way to sum up this tour... The three bands were all amazing. These are three of the most talented bands out there, and we were lucky enough to see them all at one show... ? STRUNG OUT!!!!! props to the guy who mentioned Strung Out...ummm saying the one band sounded like one long drawn out song sounds like my opinion from when I saw from autumn to ashes...I've never heard C&C though. Turnstile and Free Radio Gainesville by HWM are 2 badass songs. I like thrice too...so ummm yeah To the stupid ass mother fucker that wrote this shitty uninspired waste of internet space review, I think that you should have your vital organs removed rectally. Those organs should then be fed back to you so that you can shit them out and eat your own shit. Thrice is one of the most mediocre bands out right now and they are barely worthy to be the first band on this tour. Comparing Hot Water Music and Coheed and Cambria to Thrice is like comparing you to somebody who can actually form an intelligent sentence. Hot Water Music are one of the best live bands around right now and they deserve so much more respect than what your shitty review accorded them. Chuck from HWM actually let two of my friends into the Glass House Show for free because they couldn't find tickets. I don't think Dustin, Tepei, or those other two butt pirates in Thrice would ever show that kind of appreciation to the hurley wearing bro's that condider themselves fans of their awful, awful music. Eat shit and die you piece of human waste!! Sincerely, Fuck YOU! I love all the bands that played and I think its funny how everyone of you little punks think you are the definitive source on music. So easy to be a critic when next to none of you have probably ever been in a band...just dont be so quick to put done a band. Its nice to see all of you at home on a friday night while these people are out touring the nation doing what they love for a living...what the hell have you done with your life? i consider myself a Thrice AND HWM fan. But Im sorry, Thrice can't touch Hot Water in any respect. Put your hard hat back on Thrice, and hit the road for many more years and put out many more albums and then we'll try to compare. Cause right now, Hot Water is still a top shelf band and ya Thrice might be on their way but they aren't there yet. oh no, please dont say it's so. They only had a choice of 4 shirts at the merch stand? damn, life really must suck for you? screamo hahhahahahahahah Usually when I am friends with someone I can spell thier name right. "Trever". "Im sick of screamo... sick of thrice... sick of coheed and cambria... hot water music is ok though." Please explain how Thrice got big on Thursday's coattails. Please. "thrice is a flavor of the week band who gained this popularity on thursdays coat tails. Hot water Music is band that people will be talking about for years, because their original, hardworking, and aren't on some trendy bandwagon." oh yeah, crappy metal riffs and solos does not equal talent, thrice is far from being classic. thrice is a flavor of the week band who gained this popularity on thursdays coat tails. Hot water Music is band that people will be talking about for years, because their original, hardworking, and aren't on some trendy bandwagon. Coheed is amazing. I dig coheed and cambria, they are so different from anything that I have heard in a while. I last saw them at The Troubadour in Hollywood with From Autumn to Ashes, who put Thrice to shame (I do like Thrice, however, they just aren't nearly as good). I had always found Hot Water Music's stuff to be kind of hard to swallow until I caught them on the warped tour. Their live show was awesome. Im sick of screamo... sick of thrice... sick of coheed and cambria... hot water music is ok though.-BostonMusicGuy To that guy who claims that him and "Trevor" from face to face are such good pals...I don't think he'd appreciate you spelling his name wrong. Your on crack if you think all of face to face's records are "crap"... From reading the comments I guess most people don't know what good music is. The "Illusion of Safety" is one of the best albums of all-time. The music and lyrics(especially the guitars) are some of the best ever. I don't know if anyone can beat the raw power and beauty of Thrice's music, maybe Strung Out could give Thrice a challenge for most talented musicians. Everybody should wake up and listen to Illusion of Safety and realize what a classic album it is and always will be! Evidently. Am I the only person here who likes Hot Water Music *and* Thrice? How can anyone possibly deny that HWM is one of the finest bands touring these days? I saw them several years ago, before I had been able to listen to them on record at any length, and was just blown away. They continue to write some of the most melodic, anthemic punk songs out there(check out Paper Thin, from "A Flight and A Crash" to see what I mean. And to even compare them to Face to Face(who are a good live band in their own right, though their records have sucked since Don't Turn Away, except for one)is just stupid. They sound nothing alike and HWM is infinitely more talented, as Trevor would even be willing to admit (yes, although I don't like much of their music, I'm good friends with Trevor). So Emowusscrackheadstupidshit, get it together before you write stupid shit like that. And by the way, I've seen more intelligent reviews written by Jr High School kids. What a dope. to the comment below (me), liking hwm singer is almost an aquired taste, such as liking the lead singer of against all authority. its brutal man. ok, there were way too many comments to get all of your opinions, but i got the gist. i must agree (regretfully, i guess) with wuss that hot water music has always sounded.. well, not as great as the hype that surrounds them. the only album i have with any of their shit on it is the split with alk3, and their volcalist just pisses me off. there is nothing artistic about a guy who needs to clear his throat, and badly. thrice, however, provides me with well constructed ENTERTAINMENT. the lyrics are reasonably deep, the seem pretty intelligent, and dustin can SING. not only that, he can scream pretty well too. i guess it all comes down to the simplistic fact that whatever that guy from hwm does, it doesnt appeal to me. big fucking deal, i dont worship them, THEREFORE, yes, all of their sounds sound the fucking same sorry that i dont listen to them (or worship them) enough to notice the subtle differences between this song and that, but its just loud, powerful, and somewhat repetitive music. "Illusion of Safety was close to brilliance." face to face sounds like HWM....how many of each of both respective bands have you listened to? face to face sounds like HWM....how many of each of both respective bands have you listened to? Identity Crisis was VERY mediocre. someone please tell me what is wrong with "Illusion of Safety?" Personally, I think it is a great CD, not quite up there with "Identity Crisis," but still very good. Wow, this review generated a lot of controversy (hah, wait till *mine* gets posted). To add to my earlier comment, I do think that C&C is pretty mediocre. Not awful by any means, but I don't see the reason for the buzz. Yes, they are really good musicians (especially the bass player) and their music is very intricate, but it's also very uninteresting. The guitar parts just drone on and on without going anywhere. I have no problem with long songs (in fact, I think there should be more of them), but length needs to be justified and C&C can't do that. Intricate and complicated: yes. Interesting: no. all of those bands are good, but HWM is one of the most hardworking, consistent band ever and Coheed just kills everyone. not that thrice isn't good, but i think CoCa and HWM are both much, much better. wussemorock is a douche bag Thrice is horrible go back to the mall kid. You can pretty much tell there are 2 different crowds, in general, for HWM and Thrice. Thrice put on a good show, but HWM was better. HWM music is about 100x better than thrice. if you think every HWM song sounds the same, you aren't listening very closely. My sister called me and asked me if I had heard of this "cool new band" called Thirce. She listens to Disturbed and Limp Biscuit. Nuf said. Ok. The review was thankfully well written even though your taste in music is fucking atrocious. I saw HWM back in 2000 at Warped L.A. and this was when no one knew (atleast in LA) who they were. They were on a tiny stage at about 1 pm and I remember there being only about 20- 25 people watching and they fucking rocked hard as hell. They were full of energy and I immediately dug their song "Better Sense". They were a very good and energetic live band, and gave it their all despite the small crowd. I don't think you guys should get upset by WussEmoRock....Anybody who is a republican and like New Found Glory CANNOT be taken seriously. I like to mess with him, but most of the time I (and you) should just ignore him and maybe he'll go back to hounding the MCA or Bush Lover's Admistration site instead of this one. The two reason I will never waste my money on thrice again are: I saw this in pomona. There were way to many "bros" there to see thrice. Cuad and Coheed were incredible. HWM has been better. They only played 2 old songs which completely bummed me out. I left before thrice because they are boring and their fans are idiots. I respect WussEmoRock for his review,but what was I awwed by buddy? I told you what happened at the show, and no it is not my first show ever haha. To all the commens about HWM, I gave you my opinion, take it or leave it. But, not everyone in the world has to like that band, it is possible that it just doesn't fancy some people, like myself this score's for the review You make it sound like you had never heard Hot Water Music before... Stupid Hollywood kids. I just get more and more enraged every time I read his comments about HWM. I guess they just don't create the mind-blowing music that Rell Big Fish does, huh? I tried to refrain in the past from mocking you Wuss, I really did. But this just takes the cake. I don't like to judge people by their taste in music, but you are truly a moron. Did you ever think that maybe the songs sound the same because they have their own style and a definitive sound? Do you know anything about music, other than where the ex-Mojo bands are doing in their spare time? Your officially out of the club turn in your uniform and get outta the clubhouse. Choad. thrice is fun to listen to, but they're not doing anything incredible. and my score of 10 is a score for Spectacular things. Al Qaeda on ice, anyone? God, WussEmoRock, you have the worst taste ever. Fine, this review may be okay as far as reviews go, but, damnit man, you need to have something in your head rewired. First off, I'll say I'm not a huge fan of HWM based soley on the fact that I don't like the singing - I've never been down with that particular style. But to insult CO&CA by saying they're.. BORING? These are some amazingly talented musicians your review shits on, and the vocal range of CO&CA should make you fall to your knees in admiration. It's not your thing? Fine - but BORING? Do you even know what that word means? There is nothing boring or "untalented" about HWM. And comparing them to F2F is heresay! I have rarely seen a band put so much energy and heart behind their songs as HWM does. Not to mention that they're great songwriters and their songs really don't sound all that similiar (especially when they play live and have songs from all different eras). Sounds like you need to give them another listen. I saw this show in Cleveland. Personally, I can't get into Thrice at all. I've listened many times to Illusion of Safety and I still don't get it, I guess. In my mind, they're a below average metal band. To FeedMyNightmare: So now its cool to not like Thrice, huh? Why? Because people other than you like them? This is one of the most retarded threads I've read on this board. again i say - Hot Water Music and Coheed & Cambria are the two best live bands. Thrice sucks. I went to the MOntreal show. HWM headlined. To make it quick and simple : I agree with Sickboi. You are now completly and utterly worthless. Someone should ban your dumbass from this board. HWM , in my opinion, is the greatest lyrical band in punk rock( well them and Fugazi). And theyre sort of hardcore? Are you a fucking douchebag? AHHH die. On the east coast people respect HWM and what they stand for. I attended both Pittsburg and Cleveland shows and as good as Thrice is, hot water still brought it. I was made complete when I heard Free Radio Gainsville. Read the lyrics to this song, then tell me what you think asshole. You dare to talk shit about HWM? You are an idiot and your opinion is now offcially worthless. You are the biggest fucking clown I've ever seen "Hot Water Music played the same song over and over again." I don't even know how to respond to something that dumb. All I have to say is if you weren't enjoying HWM's set then you dont need to be at this show. HWM headlined at the date I saw them too. I know for a fact Thrice are huge HWM fans so I'm sure they had enough respect to let them headline most of the tour. Yeah so i saw this show in Cleveland and Thrice is great but their drummer sucks live. He Was soooo SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWW. Oh yeah HWM hheadlined too Someone tell me why the fuck Thrice should headline over HWM? Thrice has two albums, one mediocre, one fairly good....HWM has got five STRONG albums, a weak Epitaph debut, and a solid live album....not to mention they are one of the hardest working and talented bands around, and they put on an amazing live show... I think on all their Canadian shows How Water Music headlined over Thrice. At least they did in Toronto. Well the review itself was alright... i don't care too much about what you and your friends planned before the show nor do i care about the merch table being naked too much... but you gave your opinion on the show and thats swell... but i completely disagree with what you said about HWM and Coheed... and I was hoping someone would write about Time in Malta soon cause i have yet to see them... but anyway, Coheed played only 4 songs when i saw them and yes they were all long... but i enjoyed that a lot cause their songs on their album are pretty long... plus they kind of extended Delirium Trigger.. but anyhoo, about HWM, i dont think all their songs sound the same... they have a style that they uphold in their songs.. i dunno, the review wasn't bad, i think it coulda been better especially if you reviewed Time in Malta.. This review sucks ass. Thrice sucks as well, mainly due to the bland vocals. At least HWM and C&C have distinct vocalists, PussyRock HWM sang a song with the line "its all sounding the same" because they were an anomoly within a generic music scene. First off, when I saw this show, it was with Time in Malta instead of Curl up and Die. Time in Malta were so good live. I had their latest album beforehand and I thought it was good...but after seeing them live, I have even more respect for them. To the guy below: Who said this was a job where people hire you. Anyone can review a record dipshit. Anyway this review wasnt that bad BUT, I did not know Thrice had guitar solos. I mean I wouldnt classify them as guitar solos. I think they maybe have two songs that are justified as a guitar solo. Anyway Teppi is the fucking shit. -SideLinedForLife This reviewer gets placed in my new genre of, "people that don't have a trained musical ear providing unaccurate, terrible advice." Honestly, why are people like this, that have no musical knowledge hired to do a job that requires musical knowledge! I hope you read this email, cry, quit your job, and then give it to someone who knows what they are talking about. Well, I think you're review was pretty good, except for the fact I completely disagree with you on everything you said regarding HWM. Well that and the fact I completely hate just about everything you say. Ever. Please go away. wow, a lot of people are going to hate you for this review. but im guessing you know that. but at least you got the guts to stand up for it. definitely, i salute you. sounds just like the San Diego show, too many dipshits there just for Thrice and didn't notice that Hot Water Music is one of the finest bands you'll ever see live. I like Thrice, but HWM just owns everything and everyone. And maybe you'd prefer some basic voice ala Simple Plan, Allister, or some other shitty band as opposed to Claudio from Coheed having some range and a distict voice. Man, you're terrible. |
