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Sum 41: Does This Look Infected?Does This Look Infected? (2002)
Island Records

Reviewer Rating: 3.5
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Contributed by: krazekraze
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I know this review will cause quite a few "SuMm FORTY1 ISZ N0TT 4 Pu'nX" but lets do this anyway, yey. This is Sum 41's third release, the first being an EP and the second being a 3 million selling full-length. Sum 41 have the focus on so called "MTV-punk", with a few twists from hair-metal .
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I know this review will cause quite a few "SuMm FORTY1 ISZ N0TT 4 Pu'nX" but lets do this anyway, yey.

This is Sum 41's third release, the first being an EP and the second being a 3 million selling full-length. Sum 41 have the focus on so called "MTV-punk", with a few twists from hair-metal and rap (no, it's far away from nu-metal). I have to be honest, "Does this look infected" does have some good tunes on it, actually, all of them are very listenable except from a few whom just seems pretty bland (I heard that "duh"..).

I really had no expectations because about a year ago I heard that "Sum 41 were going emotional for next record" so I was expecting just another Saves The Day copycat CD. But when I got the CD, I popped it in, and seriously, the first tune is one of the most boring and bland songs ever, and this almost made me turn it off... but I'm glad I didn't, the second track, "Over My Head", made me nod my head and hope that the rest of the CD were going to be like this. More specific about the song, it's your usual Sum 41 song, just a little more "mature", if that's a word that fits into a Sum 41 review.

"My Direction" the third track, kinda took a small step back, it's a little too poppy (in a bad way), and seems pretty bland. The lyrics don't catch me at all I'm sure you have heard "Still Waiting" by now, and I KNOW that some of you are secretly liking this song but don't want to tell anybody because you "want to keep your punk rock cred". Following the trend of the Sum 41 releases, next comes a short, hard, fast and more agressive song, think "T.H.T" from half hour of power and "Never wake up" from "All killer no filler".

By now, we're on track 6, which goes under the interesting title "Yesterday.com". This song kinda grabs me, it's what I wanted this cd to be like, it's catchy, varies all over the "Sum 41 style", from poppunk, to rap, to hair-metal. After this, it's "all messed up". This tune makes the cd take another step back, it's like the poppy stuff from "all killer no filler", nothing new here. Yeay! Here comes "Mr. Amsterdam", it's a fast, upbeat tune, I like it, it has some nice screams and metal-riffs. period.

We're on track 9 now, this is yet another track I like, very typical for Sum 41, which equals nice (bring the comments, bring em on!) "Hyper-insomnia" is great, I like it when Sum 41 play this way, they should've done it like this on every track on the cd.

Yeah, what about the lyrics then? They're not whiny and about getting dumped, they're just what you can expect from them. Next song, "Billy Spleen" is like the good tracks on this cd, fast, upbeat, just plain great. Now to the last song (I know some of you mutter "thank god" now). It's called "Hooch", it's pretty good, i like the new direction they have on the good tunes on this cd. "Hooch" is great until after the bridge where it slows down and doesn't go up. It left a bad taste in my mouth, but then I just went back listening to the tracks I like, and I like this CD. It's not amazing (except from a few tracks), but it's comfortable to listen to, that's really all I can say.

 

 
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crizack (May 15, 2004)

oh my god, this band is soooooo hot. the drummer is sooooo sexy. screw their music. i just like them based on their looks. sum 41 is so hard core. when i go to their shows, i feel sooooo kewl!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous (April 21, 2004)

OMFG sum41 r lyke sooo effin hawt!!!

hahahaha don't buy this shit, for your own damn good.

Anonymous (January 10, 2004)

hi! sorry, but i think cone kinda looks like a hard- core clay aiken! hahaha!!!!

Anonymous (January 10, 2004)

YAY! SUM 41! THEY ROCK MY SOX! YAY!!! YAY!! YAY!! DERYCK IS HOT!!!

Anonymous (May 29, 2003)

And even if you respond now it doesnt matter because I posted that months and months ago. I just find it hilarious.

Anonymous (May 29, 2003)

Hahaha moron. Sum 41 doesn't sound like Green Day. And by the way this is "Dick." And I find it quite hilarious that no one responded negative to my comment, because you don't have answers. Hahaha.

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

have any of u guys ever been to a greenday concert... geez the lead singer even looks like Billy joe.

soulbleed (January 11, 2003)

i didnt have any expectations for this album, so i couldn't be disappointed, but i wouldn't have been anyhow. this cd has some catchy tunes on it .. 'no brains' is probably the best song on it, along with 'still waiting.' don't be such hardasses, buy it because it's good and try not to care about your nonexistent punk 'cred' .. heh, lame bastards.

Anonymous (December 18, 2002)

Oh yeah and one more thing (this is Dick) the lyrics arent exactly like pennywise/anti-flag because i know thats the first thing you will comment on. They are in about 5 songs but the rest are not though they are very good. and not ONE song on the cd is about a girl

Anonymous (December 18, 2002)

Im sick of all you idiots. SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! Now that i have all of you "punks" attention, basically everyone that says this cd sucks is a poser. Bad songs: My Direction and All Messed Up maybe one more. Download songs like Over my head better off dead, mr. amsterdam, or hyper-insomnia-para-condroid. Why dont all of you posers shut up. "The lyrics are bad". Do you listen to pennywise, bigwig, anti-flag? Their lyrics resemble bands like that. And their riffs suck right, and chord patterns, writing talent? Yeah I'm sure it does listen to the cd. If all you like is hardcore you obviously wont like this cd but Its not poppunk. I guess they should just write music that has no talent, with horible lyrics, just saying how its cool to get drunk, stoned, tatooed (and anything else you might consider punk) But to all of you posers that are just saying this because its sum 41, just shut up... and by the way i dont want to make an account so if you want to make fun of me (so i know to respond) my name is Dick

Anonymous (December 11, 2002)

Oh...and as for the cover art...WHO FUCKING CARES. That is seriously nothing worth arguing about. What the fuck are you gonna accomplish arguing about how there's a cut out lady on the cover? and how stupid the cover art is? seriously...where were you going with those stupid comments? As it has been aforementioned, I think the only reason you rip the cover art apart is because you have nothing else to talk about, since you probably haven't heard any songs off the cd, cause you're too punk for that......

Anonymous (December 11, 2002)

So I read some of these comments, and I think I read about 10 people say they've actually heard this cd. Isn't the point of a "cd review" to review a cd? If you haven't even heard it, why the fuck are you commenting, and if you hate sum 41 so much and you think they're worthless trash, what was the point of you wasting your time going to the sum 41 review? Now, as for the new cd, those of you (probably at least 85% of all the comments) who haven't heard the new cd would at least be surprised by it. There are only about three songs that have the same style as their previous releases. I liked half hour of power when it came out. However, I liked pop-punk when it came out. It was up my alley. Now, I'm not so much a fan of it, but it's not terrible. All killer no filler wasn't very good, it was a disappointment in my eyes. But this new cd is fucking good. My style of music has gotten a lot harder since Half hour of Power came out, and obviously so has sum 41's. Listen to songs like Mr. Amsterdam and No Brains (yesterday.com) and you'll realize that AT THE LEAST they're not the same pop-punk band they were before. When I heard Still Waiting I was surprised to hear that it was a lot harder, and I became anxious to hear the rest of the cd, and now that I've heard it I'm glad their style changed because it's really good. And for those of you who can't accept the fact that a mainstream band can make decent music, then it's your loss.

Anonymous (December 9, 2002)

I think there are far worse bands out there, and now I shall name some of the culprits. The two worst being GOOD CHARLOTTE and SIMPLE PLAN.

Anonymous (December 3, 2002)

*shudders*

Simple Plan. Quite possible the two most evil words ever created.

Unholy music I tell you.

BostonMusicGuy (December 3, 2002)

Shut up, one of my favorite parts about them is that they act like such jackasses. At least they dont walk around hating the world and talking about how punk they are. They act just like they should... fun, just like their music.-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (December 3, 2002)

God, all this talk about school. I remember in high school the closest thing anyone listened to in the "punk" genre was Green Day, and those kids didn't look at them as punk, just good music.

This however, is garbage. I actually watched the "Diary of Sum 41", what a bunch of retards. I didn't like em before, and I ain't starting now. Even the origin of their name is fucking whack.

-sickboi

Anonymous (December 3, 2002)

Ice T....fucking awesome. But I don't know HOW blink 182 would be influenced by him, that's like them aying they were influenced by black flag....it just doesn't work.

Anonymous (December 3, 2002)

Sum 41 is kiddy music, cutesy music....it's like you see them onstage and you say "oh look, how cute, these guys look like they're having fun...cool" but then someone asks "do you want their record?" and you say "Oh....fuck no, I just said it looks like they're having fun....I'm gonna go watch something intense and real....but if you like this kiddie stuff more power to you.."

Anonymous (December 3, 2002)

Ice T is more punk rock than most punk rockers EVER. Cop Killer....nuff said.

4131 (December 3, 2002)

That sucks that you like simple plan. na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na, na na na. Ahh the brilliance of Mark Hoppus.

BostonMusicGuy (December 2, 2002)

Someone please explain to me what about this bands album is not considered music. If you dont I will consider that a not valid argument and you a moron.And for the record, Sum 41 has never ever EVER consider themselves punk. MTV may say they are punk, Island Records may say they are punk, but if you go and ask them they are going to tell you that they are not punk and dont want to be punk. They claim influences from punk bands but that does not make somebody punk. Travis from blink 182 claims influences from Ice T and some other rap artists, does that mean he is claiming to be "hip hop"?-BostonMusicGuy

waste_elite (December 2, 2002)

"its now considered punk to hate mtv, the radio, blink, simple plan"

how awful! how could anyone hate the mind-numbing plasticity, trendiness, and superficiality of such wonderful greed-driven institutions like MTV and commercial radio!

and what's not to like about obnoxious pop bands that try to pass themselves off as punk rockers by using bad words and getting tattoos! gee!

waste_elite (December 2, 2002)

don't worry lauren, you won't have to worry about such things after you graduate from the 6th grade.

evildeadalive (December 2, 2002)

Fuck you. McDonalds rules.

Anonymous (December 2, 2002)

Saying this is music is like saying mcdonalds is food. nuff said. people who don't understand this deserve to "listen" to this pointl;ess tripe.

Lauren (December 2, 2002)

there's this girl that i go to school with and she was singing "Still Waiting" but she stopped because she thought it wasnt "punk" to like sum 41. she even told me that she was trying really hard not to like them because they were "sellouts". am i the only one getting sick of people who tell you that you have to wear certaint clothes and listen to certaint music to be punk? its now considered punk to hate mtv, the radio, blink, simple plan, ect. ya know what? I LOVE SIMPLE PLAN!! and i am obviously not ashamed to admit it. no, i dont like sum 41, but not because they're mainstream, but because they just dont appeal to me, thats all. and also, the people who were listing bands that they listen to just to establish "punk cred" need a fucking hobby.

BostonMusicGuy (December 2, 2002)

Yea how dare we say that a band plays "music" thats just ridiculous. No matter what you consider music, this is still music, yuou fucking moron. I hate when people say that ssomething they dont like for whatever reason isnt music... its just the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.Who the fuck complains about COVER ART!! I mean fuck, if you are going to go so low as to complain about a lame cover art that is just goofy and stupid because thats the attitude of the band than you really need to get a life.Name dropping sucks. I could name off a bunch of bands to try and justify my punkness but Im not going to because if being punk is acting like most of the people on this site then I strive to be not punk.-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (December 2, 2002)

i fucking like #2, over my head better of dead, #8 Mr Amsterdam and #9 thanks for nothing, and billy spleen and hyper insomnia is not that bad either. the first 30 times i hated hell song but now i kinda like it, even though it's really really bland the first times.

Anonymous (December 2, 2002)

Say the video on one of the overhead monitors at my store while working.....i can say one thing.....why o why is this stuff considered "music", there is good stuff out there, its just very, VERY underground right now. AS in much of it isn't even from the US and the stuff that is from the US is in small numbers. It seems all i can k=find online are mostly a bunch of "sounds the same" emo bands where all it is is whinning and crying, "souds the same" hardcore bands where all it is is screaming and no real intensity or atmosphere, "sounds the same" pop punk bands who all sound like they were castrated and sing about women 24/7, or nu metal crap. So, where is all of the exciting, original, intense, explosive, creative, and groundbreaking music at? please help me./

Anonymous (December 2, 2002)

If the rest of their album sounds like the single, "Still Waiting," then they're still bad. No lame pun intended.

Anonymous (December 1, 2002)

hey i think Sum 41 is a good band
if you started listen to them before they "sold out" you would no what im talking about i think this album is way better the all killer no filler but its not better then half hour of power hopefully this album wont go over well with the teenies and then they will forget about Sum 41 just like the do with their little rapppers

Anonymous (December 1, 2002)

ok i have only heard a couple of songs and i have downloaded sum songs and all i have to say.. WOW they all really SUCK BALLS!!! its like who the fuck wrote those words? seriously? that is not what i would want to come home and listen to.. give me sum real music.. sorry if poeple actually like that shit.. WOW.. thats all i have to say.. WOW o and who puts that on the cover????

REALPUNX4LIFE (December 1, 2002)

Why can't people dislike a band for sucking? Whenever someone dislikes a band, the people who do like the band say that it's because the band is popular. So who's the one that should be growing up? The guy who can't stand the fact that someone else dislikes Sum 41 or the guy who is only PRESUMED to be an elitist simply because he dislikes Sum 41 (and is very vocal about disliking Sum 41)? I can't tell.

And for the record, the album cover sucks balls, regardless of popularity. And regardless of what's on the record. I haven't heard it yet, but based on past experience with the band, my guess is that the music also sucks balls. I wouldn't want to say anything other than an assumption, though, because then I'd be an elitist and I should grow up.

Anonymous (December 1, 2002)

Most of you making me fucking ashamed to listen to music you consider "punk". Grow up you god damn elitist assholes. The people bitching about the album cover are the worst even. If it was your fucking "oh-so-punk" band you would have no complaints about it, but since it's a mainstream band its bitch, bitch, bitch. Who fucking cares. Go back to your underground crust punk or whatever the fuck you listen to and be done with it.

Now as for this album, I felt it was average. It didn't have too many standout songs, besides "Still Waiting", "Yesterday.com", "Mr. Amsterdam", and "My direction". Typical album, but solid nonetheless. It was interesting to hear them incorporate the semi-metal riffs into the music as well. Definately not a great album, but its by no means bad.

Anonymous (December 1, 2002)

Man calm down about going off towards Fat Wreck...geesh. no one died or anything.....oh wait youre going to say...punk rock died...chill out..its all good were just posting stuff about what we think about the album and what other bands we like. Yeah I like an array of bands and some are on mtv some arent. No biggie. Sum 41's influences are bands from Fat and Epitaph, so whatever. Chill out. I like 3 songs or so on "Does this look infected" "Hell song" "Mr. Amsterdam" and #9. Call me cookie cutter sell out, call me punk, call me whatever. I dont care. I listen to what I listen to, it seems like people have a problem with what other people listen to. Which is absurd.

M4CH1N3 (December 1, 2002)

Man, this is so RAD I love those guys especially the small one he's so exciting with his gangsta attitude, peace out, DUDE

REALPUNX4LIFE (December 1, 2002)

SOM 14 R NOT 4 PUNX!!! OI OI OI!!! THAY R 4 SELLOT POSEUR FAGETZ!!! OI OI OI!!!

I haven't incorporated homosexuality into this shit before. I think it adds a level of sophistication that was missing before. UR GEY!!!

Anonymous (December 1, 2002)

i love how people feel like they have to justify themselves listening to this band by name dropping bands with more 'punk cred'. then people give the person shit becuz he named dropped a bunch of bands from fat/epitaph instead of some more suitable label for the indy fucks that post all the time hear.maybe he shoulda threw in some jade tree bands or some shit. maybe doghouse bands woulda proved this kid isnt an asshole for likeing sum41. i long for a day when music is considered music and people like or dislike it for its sound, not how the band looks or what label happens to be distributing them or if mtv and radio support them.oh who am i kidding? until punks stop being so elitest, condecending stupid arrogant and fucking childish, and most of all close minded it'll always be this way.
Sum41 suck desparecidos are soooo good cuz they bitch about suv's and commercialism, god theyre so indy and sooo much more valid than sum41...blahb blahbhalhbahbhahlbhba b FUCK YU!1!!
cawknocker
ps. fat wreck is the shit. d4,lagwagon,mad caddies, larry arms. shit. not that they don't have theyre share of god aweful bands too, like antiflag. fuck antiflag. theyre so mtv cookie cutter shit.

Anonymous (November 30, 2002)

Yeah Fat Wreck is the best label out there! Good people knowing how to run a label with good bands!

waste_elite (November 29, 2002)

haha

good call

Anonymous (November 29, 2002)

WOW...you listen to the whole Fat catalog and you STILL like Sum 41? Sum 41 MUST be good then.

Anonymous (November 29, 2002)

I listen to Nofx, Lagwagon, pennywise, no use for a name, afi, rancid, guttermouth, less than jake, bad religion,propagandhi, good riddance, and strung out...and I even think think cd is decent...well these songs are " Mr. Amsterdam is a great song...Hell song is decent too..

Anonymous (November 29, 2002)

sum 41 another lame sellout band who thinks they can reclaim some fans they lost with this cd well i dont think thats gonna happen -last in line

TahoeJeff (November 29, 2002)

that sucks...found em too late

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

Sick Shift = RIP
But yeah they kicked ass

TahoeJeff (November 28, 2002)

I liked Odd Project...look for a band called sick shift there too, I found some songs and they are bad ass.

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

to the guy that posted this sounds like the offspring song.
Completely correct, the same riff as damnit i changed again.
thats pretty weak, but then again, the offspring song sounds like a billion other songs before that was put out.

I suppose its gonna happen. It just the subconcious melody that comes with using those chord arrangements. I still think its funny though. Good call.

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

what song did you like? the already proud one or the odd project? see i was right those guys are bad ass.

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

That cover sucks. How corny. Just more corny jokes coming from a bunch of poseurs.

TheOneTrueBill (November 28, 2002)

"finally, my local record store got the 3 disc "20 Years of Dischord" comp in. tommorow i buy that son of a bitch and have multiple orgasms listening to it. can't fucking wait. "

my score is for that discord box set. fucking excellent

yellowtrash (November 28, 2002)

Hair metal sucks. They better start listening to Iron Maiden or Dying Fetus.

TahoeJeff (November 28, 2002)

Wow..usually I dont check out links promoting other bands in reviews but fur some reason I checked out the one below me. These guys are good...to be honest they fucking rock. Seriously. Check them out!!. You will not be disappointed.
~to the guy below me...good call

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

oh yeah and another thing.i dont know this band or anything, but i guarantee you will like them. i am just surprised no label has jumped on them cause damn. and this is not one of those bands that comes around looking for promotrion. i dont evne know these guys, but i found them on mp3.com

check them out if you like hardcore, thrice-ish, kilswitch-ish, etc. bad fucking ass..

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/394/odd_project.html

if anyone likes them tell them cause i think they deserve it! awesome band.

for you softer people

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/115/already_proud.html


those guys are friends but awesome. -paki punk

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

okay guys... i used to be fan of sum 41 with their first "ep" and then all killer came out, and there were some decent songs on it but a lotta shitty bland ones too. so i was kinda skeptical about this cd although i did like still waiting. i bought this anyway, hey i work at circtuit city and got it cheap, but i popped it in and i was happy. that's all i have to say. i listen to thrice, i listen to TBS, i listen to killswitch engage, offspring, blink, avenged sevenfold, milencoling, strung out, and i listen to sum 41. this cd is soo much better and god, just admit it, those songs are stuck in your head and you hate it. cause they're catchy songs. sure not the most talented but damn they know what they're doing, and they're having a fucking bad ass time doing it. 2,8 and 9 are just bad ass songs. so grow up. -pakistani punk

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

and another thing... why are u complaining about the album art?? is it that you have nothing else to complain about, because they came out with a good album, so the only thing you can diss is the album art? grow up

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

you guys are all dumbasses. Why do you spend all of your time bitching about this band if u dont like them. Just ignore MTV and Sum 41 if you think theyre shit. Dont bother listening to them. The album is a big change from all killer, which was a horrible cd. Their first cd wasn't an ep either...

evildeadalive (November 28, 2002)

evildeadalive (November 28, 2002)

Look in the bottom left hand corner wuss.

And as much as I dislike Sum 41, I have to tell you they were not created by mtv. They have actually been around for a few years and got to where they are through hard work, believe it or not. Once again, I stress I very much dislike Sum 41.

WussEmoRock (November 28, 2002)

I know I don't have 20/20 vision, but that is not a girl on th front of the cd cover.

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

How original! We have a cut out picture of a lady screaming! Man, thats like punk. I mean, who else besides a punk band would have that for a cover? Like NOBODY, DUH! And, like, New Found Glory is like totally cool, dude, so quit dissin!

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

I don't like Sum 41's music at all. Their agenda is also stupid. They were just created by MTV to trick little girls into thinking that they're punks. And it worked, didn't it? Just look at that dumb ass New Found Glory! Spikey hair idiotic jokes that a fetus would laugh at = PUNK! Fucking bland formula.

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

Yeah, people who bitch on Sum 41 are just jealous that those guys do whatever they want, have a great time and make tons of money. What's wrong with that? I don't like their music myself, but I certainly don't have a problem with them. Grow up.

Anonymous (November 28, 2002)

OK, yea this is the same band you heard when they released fat lip and the same band you all hate like hell but this is actually a really good cd. Punk, no. A few songs may actually surprise you... not the same as every other song they have ever released which was what the last cd was. This one has some variety. At least they have something more to sing about than girls like the rest of the crap ass pop-punk bands. And at least they arent sitting aroung whining about how their life sucks trying to be a bunch of emo kids... they are just trying to have fun. They know they arent the greatest and to quote their song My Direction "I just know that lifes not so bad". Hey at least they know that living the life is a rock star is nice and they should have fun while they can.-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (November 27, 2002)

Only people who actually listened to the cd should comment this review. saying it's crap just because it's likely to be isn't enough.
I listened to it and it sucks.

Anonymous (November 27, 2002)

dude below me, i think u may be right. although i think the offspring stink and are washed up, for some reason when i first heard the new sum41 song, i thought of the offspring and maybe some crappy recent antiflag riff. sadly i like the song. i like these g;uys. they're rock stars. thats cool. if i got lucky and got a major deal when i was 20 i would bone chicks and do coke too. fuck it. these guys are fun. not everything has to be coheed and cambria or thrice or bigwig or something. sometimes good ol pop is fun.

siropsycho (November 27, 2002)

the new sum41 single sounds EXACTLY like the Offspring song "damnit i changed again"

check it out, the resemblance is uncanny

and this band has never done anything original, copycat of blink 182 and the offspring as far as i'm concerned, although the rap on the first cd they put out was actually a pretty decent rhyme

IlikeSKA (November 27, 2002)

sheesh people, they are just out there to have fun, anything wrong with that? you shouldn't be bitching about this kind of band, there is worse stuff out there in the wonderful land of music, such as pop-sluts and mucho manufactored fake crap.

Anonymous (November 27, 2002)

sum 41 is absolute crap. they go around talking like they are so great but they suck. it's so true. where's pat41? he's stupid.

Anonymous (November 27, 2002)

Pure rubbish!-oldpunker-

at_the_drive_in_21 (November 27, 2002)

Dammit, when does it end with these guys? Now they're using zombie films as a theme for their album art?

Though it would be sweet to see that Sonic the Hedgehog Crackbaby lead-whiner getting ripped apart by 15 zombies like the scene with that biker from Dawn of the Dead. Watch that movie if you haven't seen it. Best horror EVER. Well, Sum 41 is pretty fucking scary too.

Anonymous (November 27, 2002)

While its so easy to hate sum 41, the new disc is pretty good. It was way above my expectations which weren't very high, and I liked some of their earlier stuff. The album is produced well and steps outside of their MTV-radio-pop-punk box. Give it a try, you might like it.

waste_elite (November 27, 2002)

"sum 41 is a great live band though."

yeah, synchronized hopping is so cool

Anonymous (November 27, 2002)

since when was sum41's first album and EP. half hour of power was a full length and by far, their best album to date.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

that review was uber-SHITTY. i wish i had stopped reading after the first paragraph and saved my brain cells. jesus, that was brutal.

sum 41 is a great live band though.

-reeKO

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Just give me some Pink Floyd or The Who and I'll be happy, fuck this punk shit

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

i was brainwashed by MTV to buy the first album...what the fuck was i thinking...i pop it in the car at least once a week just so i could punch myself in the face...how could i have been so careless...if you're thinking about purchasing sum41...dont do it...nothing stands out...bland, plain, booring, dull...thieves

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

sickboi, the new single sounds nothing like Simple Plan. You've got your X's and Y's mixed up.

-Sydney Carton

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Haven't heard the album yet, but Still Waiting is a good song. I hope this isn't an "Insomniac" style album. And to the comment about Spitalfield, yeah it sounds like they could have ripped the riff off, but I highly doubt they have heard of Spitalfield considering they are from my area and they dont really play shows outside Illinois. some people don't like them here, but when I first saw them they surprised the hell out of me.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Yeah they matured. But is that really a good thing? This album (I hate to admit this) is better than "All Killer, No Filler" but still wouldn't be interested. Oh well.

Ramo
(The Choas Emeralds with crack inside)

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

fcuk spaeknig egnilhs

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Well, at least they aren't trying to rip off the Beastie Boys anymore, I hear in Brooklyn thats a crime punishable by death. They sound like Simple Plan now. Too bad, although I didn't have the highest hopes for these kids.

-sickboi

evildeadalive (November 26, 2002)

Yes.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

I just heard some song on the radio that I think is called "Still Waiting" or something like that...is that the new Sum 41 song?

-sickboi

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Speak English, motherfucker!

Also, ripperwalk, you do realize that the MPAA and RIAA are different bodies dealing with different forms of entertainment, right? Just checking.

Also, is it just me, or does the guy on the cover look like One from City Of Lost Children?

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

you need to be smacked for calling iron maiden hair metal. sum41 basically just rips off maiden for all metal riffs, and are FAR from motley crue bullshit.

Melvyl (November 26, 2002)

yes, the opening riff from hooch sound a little like pod:s song "boom", but it's just becuase its some fast pumping and slides on the lower-e-string. but one thing that really bugs me is how "the hell song" sounds like nickelback - how you remind me. "everybody got their problems", that part.

Basket031 (November 26, 2002)

I don't like Sum 41!!! But they're doing their Job!!

It's impossible to pleased everyone... So don't "kill the artist"

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

I'll probably get completely blasted for this, but then again, I don't know if anyone here knows who Spitalfield is. but I'd just like to say that "Still Waiting" (that's the new single, right?) COMPLETELY rips off a Spitalfield song. It's obscene.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

The only song I've heard off this is that single that the video is for...I watched it. The video is kinda funny, but the song sucks ass. Some generic metallish riff with some of the most recycled lyrical garbage I have ever heard. How many times in is this guy going to use his "motivation, masturbation, degradation, captivation, aggravation...tion, tion, shun" lyrical pattern? It's getting really annoying. I think I should create a Sum 41 lyric generator. That's probably what these guys do...throw a bunch of adjectives or whatever these are in a hat and sit around hittin' a bong figuring out the easiest, cheesiest metal riffs known to man.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

wow, you guys are so cool! talking about the dischord box below a sum41 review! that's 50 scene points for each of you!

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

That Dischord box set is better than most of the crap you own, I'll put money on that. Its worth it alone for the rare Dag Nasty track (All Ages Show). I'd review the thing but its kinda hard to review a boxset. The Fugazi song is really good too. (Blue-something?)

-sickboi

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

ooops, not right below, 2 below

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Sonic The Hedgehog's crack baby?! HAHAHA! And to the little fuck below.....Dischord bands will knock you on your at ass or make you think.....and Sum 41 will do neither of those things, unless of course you have never listened to another band. I bought the comp only knowing of a few bands on it, but trusted Dischord to have good bands and I was right, take my word for it, it'll knock you on your ass. Sum 41 will just cum in your ass, which there is nothing wrong with.......but do you really want that?

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

I'm not really sure how people can hate Sum41. I just find it hard to believe that someone can seriously hate music. How about you direct your hate to world issues.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

is it just me, or is there some thrice-signing-to-island-influence on Mr. Amsterdam? and why does the end in still waiting sound like the end in last resort. and why do one of the songs sound like p.o.d. i think it might be all messed up, yeah, that song sounds like green day. for some reason it seems like every song is just a rip of some major label band's style, but at least its good.

p.s. why the fuck would we drop money on a box set of crapcore we dont listen to? (dischord) d.c. has some good bands, they're all not on there

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

it doesn't matter if somethings been done before if its good.

THATS WHY IF YOU ACT NOW IM LIQUIDATING MY WAREHOUSE OF HAGFISH AND WESTON RECORDS STOCKED TO THE BRIM OF SURPLUS!!!

ALL CDS MUST GO!!!!!

Cmon, weston's "matinee" is pop-punk gold while this is stale crap.

It doesn't matter if its been done, it matters if you have shitloads of money to pump into duping people its the cream of the already been done crop.

bleh. the lead singer looks like sonic the hedgehogs crack baby.

wyzo

Melvyl (November 26, 2002)

i think there are only 2 songs on this cd including obscene words. the song "asshole" and there are some "fucking shit" screaming or whatever in mr amsterdam. But all in all, this album is a good listen.

Melvyl (November 26, 2002)

just becuase you heard it all before doesn't mean it's bad. It can be good anyways. I think it a bit different from their other releases.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Well, I downloaded a few tracks to check this album out.
here's what I thought:
Musically, its the same as there other stuff. I do like the way the integrate the old skool metal rythem in one of the tracks. Overall though, its nothing special. The only thing I can say is that it sounds like they really have fun with the music they are making and that is what really counts.
One line I thought really stood out that 'sums' up the album:
i've heard this all before

Over all the album sucks ass, like the album before it. Take all the good riffs, beats, best chords from every single special song you've ever heard, put it in a bowl, mix them together and you get sum41's new album. However, through the process they have added too much BULLSHIT to the recipe, so comes out sounded like ass.

Fawk, I really hate the fact that I downloaded the album, what a waste of bandwidth!! Now, I am mad at myself. I fucking HATE sum41.

waste_elite (November 26, 2002)

speaking of dischord, i hung out with one of the guys that played drums (they went through a few drummers i believe) in Holy Roller. he was really cool, had a lot of awesome stories to tell about growing up in the DC scene back in the 80's.

scream is awesome by the way

sum 41 still sucks

ripperwalk (November 26, 2002)

Scream, huh? Dave Grohl's old band before Nirvana.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Hey Waste, I got that comp a week ago.....it's fucking awesome. Have you ever heard of the older dischord band Scream? The rock fucking hard, they have a mix of hardcore punk & reggae and were heavily bad brains influenced. It's also got a 100 page booklet, remastered versions of SOA's "Public Defender" & "Draw Blank", an SOA video, and a lot of other cool shit. Worht by $20 easily. Oh, and Sum 41 sucks.

ripperwalk (November 26, 2002)

What exactly is the parental advisory for on this album? Does the MPAA now make sure parents don't let kids buy shitty albums? Wow, finally.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

i want some sum on my face..

waste_elite (November 26, 2002)

finally, my local record store got the 3 disc "20 Years of Dischord" comp in. tommorow i buy that son of a bitch and have multiple orgasms listening to it. can't fucking wait.

sum 41 is lame, you're all better off buying that box set. it's cheap too.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Fuck Punk Cred. There is no "punk cred.". This "Sum 41" "music" just flat out sucks. There is no "punk cred" to it. It's too cutesy. They should be made into action figures and sold with Tech Deck skateboards. lol

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

sum 41 is not for punx. happy now? while i have bashed sum 41 in the past, i'll admit that some of their songs are catchy and they are somewhat of a guilty pleasure. and this is coming from someone whose favorite bands are ramones, circle jerks, government issue, against all authority, snapcase, etc. (ha! like my punk rock cred? boo-yah!)

punky (November 26, 2002)

that short singer dude is very funny looking guy...whats wrong with his head? Damn ;(

ripperwalk (November 26, 2002)

i have a ticket. oh, wait. it's a bus pass. never mind.

WussEmoRock (November 26, 2002)

if anyone is going to the Glasshouse tomorrow night and has an extra ticket, I will buy a ticket from you. I want to go but it is sold out.

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

BostonMusicGuy (November 26, 2002)

So will everyone be mad and hate me for reviewing this cd too... pat 41 will make a comeback and review it again! woo! Hey sum 41 is what made him famous.-BostonMusicGuy

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