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Comments about everyone being immigrants are stupid. I'm sorry, but I live in America TODAY, not hundreds of years ago and although it is a great tradegy what was done, it's no longer relevant in our culture. If you can tell my why or how I'd like to know.

The Spanish slaughtered quite a few natives of what is now Mexico and other parts of north and south America. They all speak Spanish because of it and a great deal of Mexicans have european blood as well.

That's true, and they aren't really native "americans", I think that's an insult to them, they were natives...they didn't fuck this land up the way that the "americans" did. Yeah, I agree, English is just like any other language, just all the conservative assholes in america are to lazy and close minded to figure it out.

Great band. All this shit about "they need to sing English to speak to the masses" is fucking bull. And why is everybody on this posting board generalizing all Hispanics as "Mexicans"? There are tons more Soanish speaking countries than Mexico. I'm not Hispanic, don't speak Spanish, but the lyrics are 100% for power to the people and I couldn't agree more wih this band. Fuck English. English speaking people are immigrants just as much as the Hispanic population. Native Americans were here before us.

That's logical.

This band is cool. Since alot of you are so hung up about them speaking spanish, maybe you should learn to speak it so you could understand.

"I think we can all take a lesson from the University kid here. He obviously is more intelligent than us, he goes to a U N I V E R S I T Y people. You don't just walk into one of those and sign up. You gotta have brain smarts. You gotta know how to spell and read and use provocative words like facism. I'm not sure what it means because I didn't go to my local university, but it sounds interesting. He sounds so smart I'm scared even thinking about argueing his vast knowledge of the world.

ALL HAIL THE NEW KING OF KNOWLEDGE! THE UNIVERSITY STUDENT! HURRAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!~!!~"

Thanks guys, i agree. I can vouch for "chimerical burst" too. he's a poli sci major too, dude, those are the best kinds of university students. i'd even be willing to admit that they're one notch higher than arts-related students such as myself. but i have a better time than him anyways.

And wow, as wrong as the initial comment was... can you truthfully say that he's a "racist redneck bigot"? i think we're going a little far. why don't you call him sexist and homophobic while you're at it?

- BITTER, your resident university student who knows very few of the hispanic type but really wouldn't mind meeting some more.

Well, in America most people speak english even if they speak spanish. Mexico has hardcore bands that speak spanish.

some of you people are honestly racists in denial.

You guys complain for them speaking spanish, but what about all of the english speaking hardcore bands? The peole who dont speak english need SOMETHING to understand you fucktwats!

I can argue that punk rock is about social change and that singing to one group only isn't as effective. No one said that what they did wasn't punk enough, just that excluding people that speak english doesn't make as much sense. English speaking people need to be part of the same change they were looking for. There is no real right or wrong here, just better or worse depending on your viewpoint.

"Ok band, lyrics were kind of overdone. It's strange that a bunch of Mexicans make hardcore for Spanish speaking people when most of them are immigrants that listen to traditional music or are Vatos that listen to rap."

Ok, time to be the umpteenth person to argue this point; since when is punk rock about making music for the masses? Maybe they should have sang in English and wrote songs about girls and first kisses and breaking up and stupid ass fucking shit like that, seeing as that's what the majority of people want to hear. Maybe they should have named themselves Los Blinkos instead. That's just plain fucking stupid. Music is a fucking art. Even if it's punk rock. It's about expressing yourself. This group of people chose to sing hardcore punk rock in Spanish. I'm pretty sure they weren't doing it for the millions of dollars. They were doing it for themselves. And for that, I applaud them. That is what punk fucking rock is all about.

I think he lives with your mom. Unless she's dead.

to the guy two posts below: can i have your address so i can kill you?

thanks
-chimericalburst

Dude, fuck you....I know more little white guys in gangs than I do mexicans, not that either one matters. I think your some little kid who is basing being in a gang on how they dress. A lot of guys in my town who r mexican are really cool but dress like your stereotypical "gangmember" becuase that's their style. Don't be a fucking pig man, don't bash someone because of their style. Plus, the ones down in LA usually have 2 choices....be in a gang, or be killed. So I think you should watch what you say kiddie, just because you live in suburbia in a decent house with money doesn't mean everybody does. Gangs suck, but you have to understand the mentality of someone being hazed and attacked into being in a gang, it's been going on for years and was probabaly STARTED out of fear of authorities and racial hazing, so no wonder this shit happens. It's really the fault of cops from the beginning. Look at history kids. Ice T didn't sing Cop Killer for his health.

New topic: Why are all mexicans in gangs? Discuss

I think we can all take a lesson from the University kid here. He obviously is more intelligent than us, he goes to a U N I V E R S I T Y people. You don't just walk into one of those and sign up. You gotta have brain smarts. You gotta know how to spell and read and use provocative words like facism. I'm not sure what it means because I didn't go to my local university, but it sounds interesting. He sounds so smart I'm scared even thinking about argueing his vast knowledge of the world.

ALL HAIL THE NEW KING OF KNOWLEDGE! THE UNIVERSITY STUDENT! HURRAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!~!!~

To the guy 2 posts below. I think it's safe to say a higher percentage of white kids listen to punk rock the hispanics listen to hardcore. Your post was just about as stupid.

fine, the university student comment was out of line. its just that i get really pissed of when people spout racism, despite your rationalization, to criticize bands i like. it seemed appropriate at the time because i felt that university student are less likely to fall into the intellectual rut of fascism.

-chimericalburst

the comment about most mexicans not listening to hardcore or whatever was just fucking stupid.
true, most mexicans don't listen to hardcore. AND MOST WHITE FOLKS DON'T LISTEN TO PUNK ROCK!
the fact that that comment was even made was just plain stupid.

I'm with this guy...

Guys, he said that this band is preaching to a smaller percentage of Spanish speakers, that is all. He is not a racist because he made a generalization. He was not putting ALL Spanish speaking people into one category. He is simply saying that most do not listen to hardcore. I could say the same about whites, and it would be true. I would not be racist.

PS I am not saying I agree with him, but that comment does not deserve 500 posts swearing away his comment and brandishing him as a nazi, ESPECIALLY if they are by university students, because he has no hope of coming back to their vastly superior intellect.

Actually, I think we need a new rule. ONLY university students are able to comment here. Everyone else is simply TOO STUPID. If you are not a university student, go to hell, you are not only racist but also stupid. Take over from here chemicalburst.

If I'm not mistaken if you are born here you're not an immigrant. So no we're not all immigrants. Just wanted to clarify.

I agree. Seems like most of you are arguing in circles. One person makes a point, the next disproves that point only to have the next person make the same arguement again as if they haven't even read the rest of the comments. The number one problem I see on message boards is that people either never read all the other comments or are just fucking stupid and repeat the same stupid thing over and over. That being said, I think this band is ok, but since I can't understand what they're saying I certainly can't listen to it.

Does Leguna Armada have a website? Or even an e-mail address?

Why doesn't eveyone just shut the fuck up. The guy who posted second is a racist pig, I think that sums it up, end of conversation. I wish for once someone would come on here and talk about the bands rather than bitching at eachother like junior highschoolers,b ut then again, most of you probably are. I guess I'm the only out of college person here. shit.

Uh oh. Look out for the university student! He will destroy you with his ultra-powerful brain. Dude, right or wrong, you sound like an asshole.

Well, maybe it wasn't the most tactful way to say what he meant, but it's still questionable to me.

to the guy two posts down... scroll down all the way and read the second post... that's what pissed me off... -lalo

What is wrong with this world? Why is everything racism? You fucking crybabies! guess what? I'm black!

I hate to be the one to point this out, but didn't the "racist" kid say that it was the majority that don't listen to punk/hardcore. I think he even pointed it out twice. I really can't argue that the MAJORITY of hispanics I know or have seen don't listen to hardcore, but there are a few. Weather or not he is infact racist I don't know, but I can kinda see his point. I'd say a majority of white people don't listen to punk/hardcore and I'd be right. I could also say a majority of black people listen to hip hop/rap and I'd be right, but does it make it so wrong or make me a racist? I don't think so. I do agree that stereotyping is wrong, but in certain situations generalizations aren't all that bad. Hell, if someone did a study and said that 2% of hispanics listen to hardcore, would it then be ok to make that statement? I mean, it would be a fact right? Not just stereotyping. I don't know, I think people are so scared of the truth and need to lighten up. Whatever.

oh... my ample use of expletives does not indicate my level of education... so if you want to get me on that, sorry... but i was pissed off when i wrote it... but fuck you anyways...

first off i agree with chemicalburst... secondly... i'm a goddamned first generation mexican inmigrant... in fact i'm only here in the us to study... how the fuck can you be saying stupid shit like mexican kids don't listen to hc? fuck you... i come from mexico city and the punk and hc scene down there can kick the shit out of anything you throw at them... so if what you are saying is right you stupid shit, is that i should throw away all my albums and go listen to chotis? but then again motherfucker, you don't want to piss me off, or else i'll drive down your street in my fixed up impala and shoot your fuckin' ass... fuck you! i usually never attack people on here... but that is some really stupid shit that you said dude... you dumb ass motherfucker... educate yourself a little bit... do not make sweeping generalizations or you will end up falling on your ass, things are a whole lot more complex than you can imagine you stupid fuck... read a few books and then come back... oh and if you need help translating Los Crudos lyrics... ask me and i'll be happy to help your ignorant ass out...

you fucking racist idiots. political correctness is unnecessary, hypocritical, and ethically problematic, but that in no way makes racism a preferable approach.
regardless of your petty ideologies, stereotyping is an innefficient way to address group dynamics: certainly you don't believe that all hispanics share a single unifying characteristic, especially one as specific as musical taste - therefore, there will always be some hispanics who don't satisy your narrow assumptions; therefore your rash generalizations are unfounded, unnecessary, and ultimately fascist, you fucking nazi piece of shit. additionally, someone's status as an immigrant is totally irrelevant, this is a nation of immigrants, remember? or are you a native american? (ie - the only population grouping sufficiently historically distant from their immigration to be considered as part of a different strata residence status). in short, fuck you, fuck everyone who agrees with you, and fuck every who thinks racism and socially progressive rebellion are conducive to one another.

-chimericalburst

ps. don't fuck with university students you fucking fascist.

Crudos is missed in Chicago.

Check out Limp Wrist as they will be playing in Chicago later this month. They will play a show here, Madison and Minneapolis' Havoc Trashfest

Email me if you have questions

This band was incredible while around, anyone hear Limpwrist?

A....die you racist fucks.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that ranting hardcore kid doesn't know what PC means. He actually seems to have slight mental retardation.

Not to burst your bubble shitbag, but a majority of white kids are what you describe. "White culture" is largely made up of people acting and dressing the same. Yes, I said majority. Sure most of my friends aren't like that, but most of the people in this country are. Stereotyping isn't always wrong, it's just so taboo you're not supposed to ever do it. BTW, I'm irish and asian not a redneck.

Uhhh...Political correctness means saying stereotyping things I guess. Atleast the guy belows thinks that.

You fucking retards, that isn't TRUE. Fucking idiot. Every hardcore concert I've been to (around 35) there have been LOADS of mexicans, and your stereotypical "thug types and traditional types" is fucking annoying, you are a PC pussy, you don't know the facts, you probably still live with mommy and daddy. Get out their and get down with the people and you would realize that you redneck. I livew in Los Angeles where more than 50% of the population is mexican and people are people you can't generalize people like that without getting bashed as being the idiot that you are. That would be like me saying that most white kids are either wannabe mtv punks or eminem wannabes. Get your shit straight you shithead.

For the record, I know some mexican kids who listen to hardcore but that's not to say they're not mostly 2nd generation kids who basically just look like they'd be mexican. No accents, no obvious cultural differences or anything. Let alone do they listen to music in Spanish. Take that for what it's worth.

Racial profiling? Whatever dickhead.

I don't see how that guy is a racist. He stated a fact and didn't use any derogatory remarks. typical crybabies who jump all over anyone who says anything that MIGHT be offensive to someone, somewhere. good band though.

Maybe, but it doesn't negate the fact that it's true. When that band was around, hardly anyone gave 2 shits. Sure, they had fans but nothing notable. They sung in spanish to a bunch of white kids who had no idea what they were saying. Sure oppression of people can be universal, but it was mainly about hispanics for hispanics. I'm just not a PC pussy who's afraid to say the obvious. A large majority of hispanics, especially in Chicago, are 1st and 2nd generation that listen to traditional style music or the thug-types listen to rap. No, not all hispanics do...but the large majority do. Regardless of that, why does stating the truth always scare people? People are different, deal with it, don't cry about it.

I know plenty of mexicans who listen to hardcore you little fucking racist, redneck bigot. Every hardcore show ive been to I always meet a few really cool mexican guys who are all into it when you'd figure they weren't. punk rock too. Jeez, this racial profiling thing is as bad as the lapd!

hmmm, that comment below seems a little bigoted, am i wrong?

fuckin dingleberry

Ok band, lyrics were kind of overdone. It's strange that a bunch of Mexicans make hardcore for Spanish speaking people when most of them are immigrants that listen to traditional music or are Vatos that listen to rap.

i love Los Crudos, i'm gonna get this.