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Published on December 10th 2002
Who would have thought that the idea of DVDs would be embraced by so many in the punk community? A quick search on Interpunk.com shows that there are over 100 punk-related DVDs that they carry alone, with more coming out all the time. It's pretty ironic that a type of music that isn't supposed to be based around money [and ridicules people for "selling out"] thrive on the most expensive form of entertainment on the market today. But I'm not here to write an editorial about what is inherently wrong with this, I'm here to review a New Found Glory DVD. People who liked this also liked:        Please login or register to post comments. What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
Chad: "He's the grumpy guy. If he wakes up in a bad mood, he's like arrrr..." Jordan: "There's cat piss all over my sleeping bag. It f***ing smells like shit." "The guy that looks like Quintin Tarantino, the guy who was in Shai Hulud, the fat bassist, the crazy drummer, and the other guy." To the guy below: The comment below this is one of the worst comments I've ever read on this site. NOFX sucks? Ok.... lets think about this one. 1) The music sucks. Are you joking? They have some of the most impressive chord progressions out there, Melvin is good at guitar and Hefe plays really awesome solos, Fat Mike is a very good bassist and writes some awesome lines, and anyone who says that the drummer sucks has never listened to the music. It's obvious that the music doesn't suck. 2) The lyrics suck. What are good lyrics then? I mean, honestly, I've heard a LOT of punk bands. I've never heard a punk band with even one half as much lyrical diversity as NOFX. One song is funny, the next song is clever but poingniant, the next song is weird and irreverant, and full of lyrical puns. You don't get that with most bands. 3) The vocals not only suck but are overrated to the max. First of all, everyone knows that Fatty wasn't blessed with pipes of gold. Yet somehow he still manages to convey emotion and expression as well as Greg Graffin ever does. Plus, the harmonies are really, really good -- and they do them live. 4) The band sucks -- yeah I think we've taken care of that one already. And finally, the thesis: "punk is fucking dead." That's why we're on a punk website, right? It's called punknews.org, and there are obviously thousands of people who come here. Pretty impressive for a dead genre. --JP I did give it a chance, I own two fucking NoFx albums. And lemme tell ya, they suck. Here's how I justify that: ...I don't get it. I can honestly say I really just don't get it. I like the old punk, I also like bands like NOFX, Bad Religion, AFI, Bane, Alkaline Trio and what you people like so much, but can't help but liking Blink 182, New Found Glory, Saves the Day, and Good Charlotte (though a few GC songs tend to grate on my nerves). So, why don't you punkers give pop punk a chance, if you like it, like it, if you don't, well, don't assume what you DO like is to be worshipped by all that have an interest in punk music, I mean, I constantly see a few select bands put up on pedistals, then knocked down by someone else. Some of you seem to think you are the authority on punk, only to be knocked down by someone else who thinks they are the authority on punk, who then gets knocked down again etc. etc. It'd be great if some 'authority on punk' could tell me why I can't like what you call 'punk' and this as well without being flamed as being a 'teenybopper' or a 'mindless pop puppet' or something ridiculous like that. "does anybody even notice that this band is THE GAYEST BAND IN THE WORLD??" oh so now your bringing our lord and savior jesus christ the messiah into it? you guys take everything i say way too seriously. To clarify -- the way we all got started talking about NOFX was this: way down in the posts, someone compared A New Found Glory to "classic bands like BR and NOFX." It's been downhill since then. Now, to the guy two posts down: "The Decline" by NOFX is the biggest peice of shit I've ever heard. Maybe the thing that pisses me off most is that it seems like they just took like 5 or 6 songs and just crammed them together into one big peice of shit. listening to the decline is like listening to any other 18 minute cd, except they don't have breaks between the songs." Whaaaaaaaaaat? Dude, I assume you've listened to the song before, but I don't know if you've listened carefully. It's not like five or six songs -- it's like five or six different "sections," yeah, but they definitely fit together into a cohesive song. And also, there's a riff (the infamous "trombone riff") that gets repeated time and time again throughout the song. Additionally, all of the lyrics have the same theme and get tied up together at the end to form a kind of manifesto. First, the song opens with the rhetorical question "Where are all the stupid people from?" Then there's examples of the bad state of things -- drug laws, gun violence, etc. In the end, it's all tied together: "And so we go on with our lives/we know the truth but prefer lies." It's definitely one big unit. If you're gonna say this is really several little songs, you'd have to say the same about "Bohemian Rhapsody" or any other great song that includes different-sounding parts. I agree with your point about the term "gay," though. And to waste elite, who says "the guy below me is really stupid." What does that mean? First of all, which point out of the two that he made are you disagreeing with? And second, why do you disagree? What makes him stupid? It doesn't make sense to just make a statement like that and not back it up. There's no point. --JP the guy below me is really stupid Before I begin, let me say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so heres mine.... "The Decline" by NOFX is the biggest peice of shit I've ever heard. Maybe the thing that pisses me off most is that it seems like they just took like 5 or 6 songs and just crammed them together into one big peice of shit. The song is such a fucking gimmick. Everytime someone mentions it, they have to mention that it's 18 minutes long. Who the fuck cares? listening to the decline is like listening to any other 18 minute cd, except they don't have breaks between the songs. and how did nofx even come up under this review? i'm guessing that all you self-rightous punks were reasserting your punkness by saying that kids should listen to nofx rather than nfg. well fucking grow up! if someone wants to listen to nfg, how punk does that make you to try to control them and tell them what to listen to? does anybody even notice that this band is THE GAYEST BAND IN THE WORLD??.. not that there's anything wrong with that. To the guy three posts down: Rancid is the shit. "come on" "come on, the "Fashion Pistols" were spitting nothing but rhetoric." Comparing NOFX and The Sex Pistols is like friggin apples and oranges. You can say that Fat Mike sings about inane topics, and I concur, but come on, the "Fashion Pistols" were spitting nothing but rhetoric. But nothing by NoFx has ever required any thought Bilbo Baggins, that comment is sooooooo ridiculous. Did you think before you wrote that? Are you actually trying to say that the Sex Pistols are more political than NOFX??? Duuuuude...... Have you ever listened to a little ditty called "The Decline?" Eighteen minutes of anti-establishment political poetry. Seriously, if you've never heard the song, or read the lyrics, go do that, and then come back and say "nothing by NOFX has ever required any thought" again. --JP ...and bilbo, just because you're a big bad sophomore doesn't mean you're above NOFX. to the anonymous guy below me, i believe we're getting caught up in semantics here. "NOFX were originals. sure, after getting their sound bastardized and ripped off by a million other bands, it loses it's appeal. regardless, they were one of the originals. i don't think they are overrated either, prime NOFX is grade A skatepunk/pop-punk. Waste_elite: yes, all of the socialist and anarchist writers of our time and past (Parenti, Chomsky, Levine, and even every single guy who prints an anti-capitalist zine and sells it) are capitalists, by definition. No, I don't believe that they're hypocrites, because if you read their writings carefully, you'll find that their main gripe with the capitalist system is the way that it creates personal empires at the expense of the well-being of the masses. None of the leftist writers are exploiting anyone by selling their books, nor are they building much in the way of personal empires. They play the capitalist game because it's the only game there is to play. The same goes for the bands. None of the independent bands are exploiting anyone or making a huge profit. They're not hypocrites. However, to say that they are not capitalists is just incorrect. and about the t-shirt thing... "Classic is something with ORIGINAL, LASTING VALUE. NoFx is neither. It doesnt matter if they "sold out" or not, but their music sucks and they're overrated." NOFX = overrated. I really love NOFX lyrics, but I really don't like their music. I just can't get into the voice. sorry. Not bad though, I still enjoy many songs. have you listened to the Decline? fuckin amazing... talk about classic, lasting value... just listen to the decline... best punk anthem ever DUDE. It is impossible to say that NOFX's music sucks. Their lyrics are really intelligent and often funny, their music is catchy and well written, and often very complex.... I don't know how you could say a bad thing about them. "Oh, come on OLDPUNKER...they are now one of the vet's, and I'd go as far as to cal them classic" To waste_elite: sorry dude, but selling t-shirts does make you a capitalist. I know that the guys in Anti-Flag (and most other bands out there) aren't interested primarily in making money off of their t-shirts, but rather in spreading awareness of their band, their music, and their ideals. However, a capitalist (according to David P. Levine) is anyone whose income and wealth depend primarily on the market value of the property he or she owns (including the property of labor). The musicians earn income by performing -- they then use this income to acquire capital (t-shirts) which they sell for a profit. The only way a band could avoid being capitalist (within the framework of our capitalist system) would be to give their t-shirts away. That would be nice, but, of course, they can't. They're just trying to survive. To the dude who was knocking them for being capitalist: they're just trying to play the game and put food on the table. This is a capitalist society...they have no choice. --JP I'm a rebel for talking about girls. "You're all bitching at them for not singing about important social/political issues. Instead, they sing about girls, thereby *not* doing what a lot of you seemingly want them to do. Doesn't this make them more punk, by going against this norm you all seem intent on establishing for them?" the point is that their lyrics are boring and tired and extremely corny. If they had some clever lyrics and if their music wasn't so terrible then it might be alright. But they're just downright disgusting. About NFG and their lyrics... To everyone bitching about this band's lack of groundbreaking lyricism - "Yes, I agree that the standard 8-5-6-4 (D-A-Bm-G or C-G-Am-F, for example) is used a lot. But it's so damn catchy. Can you blame them for using it?" Singing about girls is fine, if you can create clever lyrics and good music- new found glory can't do either one. Jeez, can someone inject some sense into this board? FIRST OF ALL: If you're gonna diss a band, no matter what band it is, it's really, really stupid to give it 5 stars and then be like "they fuckin suck." It just looks like you're a confused individual. SECOND: To the guy who said NOFX=shit: do you mean they are the shit, or they are shit? And if they are shit, you have to back that up. There's no point in making a comment like "they fucking suck" or "they're shit" without backing it up with some evidence, cause you're never gonna convince anyone of anything that way. THIRD: To the guy who's arguing about chord progressions and says "how many ways can you arrange 4 notes in a scale?" First of all, they're chords, not notes. Second, why does it have to be 4? "Basket Case" has a 7-chord progression, the verse of "About a Girl" has a 2-chord progression, the verse of "All-Star Me" has a 3-chord progression. Yes, I agree that the standard 8-5-6-4 (D-A-Bm-G or C-G-Am-F, for example) is used a lot. But it's so damn catchy. Can you blame them for using it? That leads me to my last point. To everyone who's saying that there guys aren't real punk, and that their lyrics are shit because they're not singing about rebellion or angst: dude, they're just singing about what's on their mind. You think politics and rissues of social concern are important -- that's great. There are lots of bands out there that feel the same way. NFG think girls are important. Who are you to say who's right? What if I think giraffes are important, and I record a CD where I sing about how much I love giraffes. If the music is good, are you still gonna call it shit because of my "stupid" lyrics? That's not cool. Aiight I'm out. --JP Oh, come on OLDPUNKER...they are now one of the vet's, and I'd go as far as to cal them classic. I know you live in the DC area, are you going to the WHFS thing tonight? To the comment below about nofx being classic punk....... No their not-oldpunker- NOFX has been around for almost 20 years and the kids still eat em up MC5 kick's out the jams, motherfucker Yeah classic punk like nofx. Totally classic punk is nofx. Errr skateboards rox Simple as this guys: Sounds like one shitty night. Andrew WK isnt even a good RIP OFF of hair metal. "WE WANT FUN"- yeah, Andy, you fight the power, brother. I shall be seeing Andrew WK, Gil Mantera's Party Dream and Shai Hulud on Saturday. "If you play guitar, you know that blink's, and NFG and all those pop-punk bands have AT LEAST and possibly more than a song that has T progression i believe,(D,A,B flat, G)." Nah, I really wanted to see James Brown and the Pietasters, so a girl got me a ticket for an early Xmas present, two of her friends aren't going now so she wants to sell them. I hate ebay so I thought I'd give the kids here a shake at it. did you win those tix off of HFS sickboi? Last I checked NFG stood for NO FUCKING GOOD! Oh, I'm going, James Brown with the Pietasters, Queens of the Stone Age and the Distillers are also there. I just have 2 extra tickets. What??!! And you don't want to go sickboi? I can't possibly fathom why... Oh yeah, Boxcar Racer will be there too. Always making good point Wuss. Hey, any of you kids in the DC/Baltimore/NOVA area.... hahahaha no you couldn't. if you could feed us a hit song you would have done it by now. the truth that everyone knows, like it or not, is that NFG won't be popular in a couple years..they're as forgettable as simple plan, blink, and all that bullshit. If you play guitar, you know that blink's, and NFG and all those pop-punk bands have AT LEAST and possibly more than a song that has T progression i believe,(D,A,B flat, G). It sounds good to the ear and its shallow music with the lyrics sung in a different way. it takes no talent..i could feed you a hit song out my ass right now if singing about girls gets you hard for some reason, just buy an alkaline trio cd. Guys , grow up!... Well, wuss. Girls are great, but why whine about them? And they could atleast show a little creativity. Their lyrics are just different renditions of the same theme a thousand times. If they could come on with some creative and original music and a NON annoying vocalist and actually come up with some clever lyrics then I'll give them some credit. But fuck man, I've heard MANY songs about girls that aren't in this form. "nfg isnt just a joke novelty band. why dont you try reading some of their lyrics sometime (especially stuff from nothing gold can stay). their music shouldnt be taken any less seriously just because they're making money. it's surprising how close-minded you people can be" so what's not boring Brandon? I happen to find girls to be a very wonderful thing in life, what about yourself? Their lyrics are about girls and what not. boring. nfg isnt just a joke novelty band. why dont you try reading some of their lyrics sometime (especially stuff from nothing gold can stay). their music shouldnt be taken any less seriously just because they're making money. it's surprising how close-minded you people can be "But playing music SHOULD NOT be a job. Like Greg Ginn once said "People who are getting into music for the money should just go get real jobs." Actually, BITTER, he did list some bands that are great. I think you're just BITTER because you're mommy's tits werent warm this morning and people kep dissing you're fave band- New Found Glory. Yeah, I know! They are like SO TOTALLY PUNK! "Everybody's entitled to their own opinion...but shit there are some facts. NFG are unoriginal, a mochary to good bands. If you'll admit it as just them being a jokey, funny, goofball, disposable band then I say ok fine...but trying to say they are an excellent and REAL music band is just absurd. I mean- THe Doors, The Misfits, Bad Brains, Bob Marley, Black Flag, Minor Threat, MC5, The Stooges, The Ramones, Bad Religion, Public Enemy, Body Count, Nirvana, Minor Threat, Rollins, James Brown, Pennywise, Good Riddance, Hot Water Music, Circle Jerks and compare them to this candy ass conformist garbage and it is hilarious. New Found Glory are a fucking joke." i think the singer has to get kicked in the junk before every show to get his voice that high. I check the website once at school (where I am now), and once when I get home from school, and one more time before I go to bed. Not to mention everytime I am bored while I am at home. haha. this is the only site I visit online consistently besides hotmail. anyway, I come here a lot because I like the site, and I like you too (person below) =) Two Things: I think the whole idea of messageboards are pointless. No matter what you put on here, there is always someone who disagrees with you, and always someone who agrees with you. I say just keep your opinions to yourself unless someone asks you. Because it will ALWAYS lead to arguing, which leads to nothing. No, I'm not being hypocritical by writing on this messageboard because this doesn't rip on or praise a band/album or anything. That was the best review I've ever read on here. all they need now is a new lead singer, different type of music and some new fans that I don't want to decapitate and they'll be set. How about you do a "story so far" after you've had than one damn story to tell. This is like putting together a photo album for a newborn baby. Wait till you've been in it longer. chad. the guitarist which one of those guys was in shai hulud? the funny looking one? hahaha scott, even i now i only know that 'guy ex shai hulud'. Story so far? Fuck, like they have 15 years behind them...Cashing in... Music shouldn't be ABOUT money, but if you make some along the way then fine. As long as you're in the mode of "I'd make this music EVEN if i was poor and never making money off of it. The point is that money is, unfortuantely, a necesitty to live. But playing music SHOULD NOT be a job. Like Greg Ginn once said "People who are getting into music for the money should just go get real jobs." anyone see the irony in saying that punk isn't about money, and it's weird to have a DVD out, but at the same time saying this on a website, which you need a computer and all that just to see? Hey Wuss Emo, quit typing on this board and continue sucking our balls. I wasnt making fun, I was serious. They are kids and we shouldn't make fun of them. Shit, do i need to actually SAY I'm serious?! ...so now we're going to make fun of people because they're a few years younger than us? ...very punk. WE shouldn't be mean to new found glory fans. They're only kids. Don't be bullies. I know it's hard to tell how old people are on the site. But it seems from what they say and they slip sometimes and actually talk about their school and shit. So don't make fun of them. I didn't read any of the comments before mine, but i can probably safely assume that it was all just about how pop punks sucks and how nfg and all of their fans should die. anyways, I liked this DVD a lot! The feature presentation (the post-mca one) was kind of lame and didn't really give you any insight into the band. it was also kind of annoying to watch because they'd show live footage, but have the cd versions of songs in the background. anyways, the score i gave this dvd is all due to the zine documentary in the bonus features section. it was really funny and, as stated in the review, it really let you get to know the band. The music videos were all good (my favorite being Dressed to Kill), except the new one, "Head on Collision". If you havent seen it on Nickelodeon's SlimeTime Live yet, don't go out of your way to see it. It's really really lame. yeah, so if you're a true nfg fan, then you probably already have it. If you kinda like them, i would suggest getting this if you can find it for cheap (i got it for 10). you hate the as human beings? I don't even know how to argue with a comment like that. you'll notice that shai hulud and NFG seem to coordinate their touring plans lately, so that every time shai hulud is in south florida, NFG is too. Why do I hate them so much? Because they show up to the shai hulud show.. understandably, they're friends.. that guy was in the band. They have a great fucking time, its a great fucking show. Then, the next night, they go and play fucking shitty pop music to 4000 screaming teenage girls. It's pop music, it may BE music, but it's not music that means anything. More of just music for kids who don't really think to much while listening to their music. New Found Glory should be providing back massages to most other bands, but they still have a right to play, even if they do suck. fuck! Everybody's entitled to their own opinion...but shit there are some facts. NFG are unoriginal, a mochary to good bands. If you'll admit it as just them being a jokey, funny, goofball, disposable band then I say ok fine...but trying to say they are an excellent and REAL music band is just absurd. I mean- THe Doors, The Misfits, Bad Brains, Bob Marley, Black Flag, Minor Threat, MC5, The Stooges, The Ramones, Bad Religion, Public Enemy, Body Count, Nirvana, Minor Threat, Rollins, James Brown, Pennywise, Good Riddance, Hot Water Music, Circle Jerks and compare them to this candy ass conformist garbage and it is hilarious. New Found Glory are a fucking joke. NFG makes my ears bleed good the first time, i dont suggest buying it because it just doesn't have much replay value. Boston, I've got your back on that, but for only 3 1/2 of your points. I'm not and never will be sick of drive-thru's music, but NFG is very old right now. go listen to nothing gold, it does bring back some good memories, especially "passing time". but yeah, the osbournes and people bitching about nfg (and somehow tying that to bush) is just crazy Is anyone else as sick of these 4 things as I am?1. New Found Glory and most of drive thru... granted i used to like them but i have grown up a bit and just cant stand to listen to them much longer.2. People who bitch about NFG constantly as well as every other succesful band in the world.3. The Osbournes... god i hate that show... I think I get more and more retarded everytime I catch a glimpse of it.4. People who praise the Osbournes as a funny and original show.Sorry the Osbournes have nothing to do with it, I was just looking through my new Sports Illustrated and saw a Time Magazine ad that featured the family.-BostonMusicGuy Disposable music.....What are these morons whinning about? This is my impression of NFG "I'm so sad I'm an upper middle class white kid who's girlfriend just left him and I have been trying to go to church to tal to god to forget about her...feel sorry for me".............NFG should be serving drinks to other people in the "music world", those people, unfortuanately, make less money than NFG, which just goes to show you how many stupid people there are in the world. But then again....we have a moron in office so why not have pointless moronic music too! Watching a NFG live show is like watching a bunch of 12 year olds talk about making out with 11 year olds. I'll pass thank you. And oops, it is Feldman, not Haim. My bad, fixing now. Yeah, they show footage from the first gig, but it's pretty miniscule. Melvyl, it does "include" their first gig ever...which they show for about...um...what would you say scott?...a whole 10 seconds. its total crap too. not even funny, just annoying. so what if DVDs are the most expensive on the market, they're the best. CDs are expensive too, and every band embraces those. DVDs are what's replacing videos, and good rhythms. Anyway, hopefully they'll get cheaper. the first press relaese said this dvd was going to include their first gig ever, is that true? oh, and don't you mean Corey Fledman?? I bought this sucker (see the pun? haha) for $14.99, so naturally I got ripped off because it is for sale now for $10.99. anyway, this dvd is cool the first time, but you could never pay me to watch it again. Alright, sorry for flippin' out like that. I shall be patient, just irritated me, thats all. psh. stop bitching about the system review. seriously, i'm betting more people here would rather read about the NFG dvd anyways. You did, didn't you? Scott my boy,relax I could care less, if anything, I was defending you. Don't destroy what we have, its to special to throw away. Sickboi and the anonymous guy below him: yeah, a 4 year old could write a system of a down review, doesn't mean it'll get posted....douchebag Chill out kid, the reviews are probably backed up...I sent a Social D review over a month ago that hasn't been posted. Scott usually does the newest albums and show reviews first....I'm sure yours will be up soon, unless it sucked ass. Psh, I love how the fact how I submit a review about System Of A Down (who are much more political and harder and carry more more of a "punk" attitude, despite being "metalish") doesn't get here but this NFG shit does. Fuck. Isn't it Corey Feldman? Anyways, he was gold in the Goonies. The DVD is pretty sweet too. DVD's aren't that expensive. My pals and I will be releasing a DVD by early next year I assume. |
