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 Review by: Jay Porter See others by this writer Only registered users can post comments 
 
Published on December 20th 2002 This album is a great departure for NOFX from the studio scene. You get 15 rockin NOFX songs (it would be 16 but "Buggley Eyes" can hardly be considered rockin) as well as a half-assed cover of "Nothing But a Nightmare" by some band I've never heard of called Rudimentary Peni (yes, old-school fans, I know I'm uncultured, so don't bother mentioning it). This album was released right after Punk in Drublic, so, alas, there are only three songs from NOFX's best full-length on this one -- "Linoleum," "The Brews," and "Punk Guy" (good choices). Other favorites like "Bob" and "Kill all the White Man" made their way on to this one, and there's even some really old stuff like "Beer Bong" and "Six Pack Girls." For a live album -- especially a live punk album -- the band sounds great. Fat Mike's vocals are on target the whole way through (and anyone who has been to a NOFX show where Fat Mike was having an off night knows how difficult it can be to hear your favorite songs getting butchered...that doesn't happen here). The harmonies are awesome, and Hefe's trumpet and guitar solos are usually very tight. In addition, the recording quality is very solid. Both the vocals and all of the instruments sound good. The reason NOFX decided to do this album (according to Fatty's liner notes) is that there were some shitty-sounding bootlegs floating around, "like someone recorded it from inside a garbage can." Ryan Greene recorded this one, so you know it's gonna be good. Another plus of this album is that it remains fun the whole time. The on-stage banter that occurs at the beginning of the CD and at the end of each song is pretty amusing (although when I saw NOFX two years ago, Hefe was still using the same jokes). All of the NOFX full-lengths from Liberal Animation to Drublic are represented, so there's something for basically all of NOFX's long-term fans. The only not cool thing about this album is Mike's use of the word "fag" in the liner notes. That's a little fucked up. Usually NOFX aren't assholes like that, expecially considering how huge Fat Mike is on lesbians. Someone let me know if I'm reading that wrong. The only other complaint I have about the album is that it doesn't have anything off The Longest Line (one of my favorite albums) besides "Kill All the White Man." Oh well...there's only so much room on an LP. When I bought this, it was my first NOFX album. Big mistake. It's better to know the songs first, in my opinion. Now that I've heard all the older albums, I have much more appreciation for this one. If you haven't heard much NOFX, check out The Decline or one of the early- to mid-nineties full-lengths for your first taste. Save this one for when you're a little more familiar with the NOFX library.
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One of the few live albums I've heard that is actually worthwhile and listenable. Good stuff. not mant people in the audience knew what the song was, probably never heard of rudimentary peni.....i dont like crass at all....we all have our opinions the rudimentary peni cover fucking sucks. and crass is a better band than nofx will ever be. WerE ThE BrEwS >>!! pretty good pick up. they are really good live but i dontcare that much for there live cds. does that make any sense? here's my timeline: Oh, you're pretty much finished? That's great. Can't wait to read the rest of your insightful spewings. All the kids who keep posting about how "Anti Nofx kids" take themselves to seriously, and keep talking about Fat Mike like there best freinds with him, Whats wrong with you guys? I mean, yeah to all the people who don't like NOFX, yeah you have an opinion, and if you don't like NOFX you don't gotta spit it back in peoples faces for liking them. But fuck, all the NOFX fans are just retaliating in the stupidest way. Your getting like worked up cause other people don't like a band you do. Geez, calm down, NOFX is just a band. Oh, and all those comments saying shit about how Fat Mike is a great guyFat Mike is a dick. If you only met him at a show for like 5 minutes, you have NO RIGHT what so ever to say what kind of person he is. If he was a dick a particular night, it might've been a bad night. If he was a great guy, he might've been in a good mood. IF YOU DON'T KNOW HIM PERSONALLY DON'T FUCKING COMMENT ON WHAT KIND OF PERSON HE IS. Ok, i'm pretty much finished. hey i was just reading all these comments and they make me laugh, some of these ppl coming in here and starting all these little anti nofx comments, if u dont like nofx y did u click on the review? did u just come in here to get every1 started? who cares if u dont like nofx, y waste ur time? u could be doing better things like giving good comments for a band that u like, anyway i think this album is very good although i dont think NOFX is the best band i must admit i like them and this is a good CD. and since every1 is talking about fat mike ill tell ya wat i think of him, i think he seems like a pretty kool dude, im not gonna start a lil thing about him bein punk or not, i dont really care to be quite honest.... i do think sometimes he contradicts himslelf in some of the things he states in songs and at shows. but who cares if he does or not hes probably still a kool person anyway thats it. 9/10 i reckon. you ever notice that the only people who actually get offended by the word fag are these straight white douche bags who have nothing better to do than to complain about the (obviously sarcastic) use of the word on the inside of a record sleeve? (or in this guy's case, i'm assuming, CD booklet) let's be honest, do you honestly think a gay person is going to read Fat Mike's use of the term "art fag" and become morbidly offended? i think not. get a life. i end my comment with a quote by the great Fat Mike "i can apprecciate art every once in awhile. just keep it away from my punk rock" Fat Mike is just another part of the system, you know. here's my timeline: "This seems to be the general relationship between punk kid and NOFX, based on my experience and seeing my friends' experiences: Kid first hears NOFX around age 14-15, immediately loves it for the gross-out humor and cursing. Kid branches out to political bands, and begins to appreciate NOFX's politics and lyrics. Around age 18-20, kid falls into a certain sect of punk (ska, emo, oi, hardcore, etc.), and completely turns against NOFX for being fake/immature/cheezy/whatever. After a few years, kid's feelings about NOFX mellow and he remembers liking them when he was younger. Kid finally has a positive opinion of NOFX, but doesn't listen to them at all anymore. Then kid joins the real world and forgets NOFX existed. The end." well, if it was re-done in a studio (i don't profess to know whether this is actually the case or not), they needent have bothered. they are fucking brilliant live, and i've heard them play better than they do on this CD anyway. just trust me on this one....it was re done in the studio (as are most "live records"). i know it for a fact. and come kid, dont buy into the whole nofx bullshit myth of how punk they are and how they dont care what anyone thinks.....or perhaps you didnt read fat mikes fucking whiny rant about how "he might be dumb but he knows his politics" bullshit. the guy is a fucking hypocrite and coke head who cares more about money and his "rep" than anyone even realizes. The whole thing was redone in a studio? What makes you think that? You think they wouldn't tell you that in the liner notes? You think a band like NOFX (who obviously cares so little about what people think about them) would take the time to re-record songs from their live album -- on which they burp, fart, mess up several songs terribly and admit it, and bitch and whine about getting hepatitis -- in a studio? No way. To the guy who says that it wasn't a big deal Mike said "fag" because he doesn't care what people think about him: yeah, that's true, he doesn't, and, as you say, he doesn't care about being "PC." But there's a difference between wanting to say something like "fag" and choosing not to because you're being polite, and actually just not wanting to say the word because you're opposed to an anti-gay ideology. Fat Mike has always been very pro-gay, in my experiece; all his songs about lesbians are a testament to that. So I was really surprised to see him use a word that generally isn't used by people who have a tolerant view of homosexuality, like I believed he had. I actually hope that Fatty would play this year with the Gimmes, but then again I would have to scarifice myself being there with a bunch of Ass-Wipe Jocks. ok kids, NOFX is the greatest punk band since the 'creators' and I'm fucking proud to be around listening to these mother fuckers while theyre still recording and touring. They've kept the scene elite. Industrialized, sure, but they deserve every penny. Well done boys, see ya at Warped. yeah, its AWESOME how they make fun of face to face more bands SHOULD do it....oh wait....actually more bands should kiss the ground face to face walks on. because without them, a lot of bands would still be playing shitty pop punk nofx covers that are supposed to be funny but are really just jaded old men on drugs blathering about. whereas face to face wrote serious punk rock songs (and happen to make fat mike rich from Dont Turn Away).....face to face made i ok to write serious songs. nofx was done years ago. they shoulda packed it in before this disgrace of a live record came out. oh and by the way, the reason that the vocals sound so clear was that THE WHOLE THING WAS RE DONE IN A STUDIO!!! jesus, just listen to the difference in sound quality when fat ass i talking vs. when he is singing. "NOFX=MALL PUNK=SHITE" Best thing about the album--NOFX making fun of Face to Face. Classic. I don't know why more bands don't do it... Oldpunker, you like Mxpx. Give me a break. Have you actually ever given Nofx a chance? Check out Ribbed or White Trash, Two Heebs, and a Bean. They absolutely kill anything Mxpx have ever released. Thats hot,some fuck face called me a "asswipe beaach."What is a Beaach ? Maybe he or she meant to say bitch and doesn't have the balls to actually say it.I wish I could meet you so I could slap your pussy face. hahahahahahahahahahahaha.....thats the funniest shit i ever heard. thanks for making me laugh this morning. Damn, but you really reminded me how much i hate that default, nickelback shit.....wait, aren't they the same band? They sure sound the same. fuck this punk shit. the best live show in the world is Default opening for Nickelback. now THEY know how to rock, old school! Just a little musing i had while reading theses comments: It really scares me to think that some of you out there actually think these guys are good. Nofx=mall punk=shite-oldpunker- Ever since I started reading this review and noticed that there where quite a handful of NOFX trash talkers, I suddenly had an urge to take out all my records, and listen to nothing but all of my old NOFX LP's and 7"s for the weekend. Yup, from "S & M" to "The Decline"(Thier last good release), and just remembered to realized how talented this band really is. "Punk has two definitions." and as for those who say mike is a prick after a show. he may just have been having a bad day. every nofx gig i've been to bar one has ended in mike inviting everyone to an after party at a pub or club, and the entire band have been (except for erik the drummer who is kind of a recluse) really decent considering we are just a bunch of strangers who want to meet them. you guys who bag nofx: why bother? do you really think those of us who recognise that they're a fucking ace band give a shit that you think they're crap? if we react its because we just can't believe how ignorant you're being. HC kids and old school elitists, if you don't like nofx, don't read the fucking review. don't try and appear 'cool' by joining the anti-nofx chorus. we all know you liked them at one point. seriously, grow up and get over yourselves. Nofx are a great band, and they are THE BEST live act i've ever seen, and i've seen a lot of live acts. Mike has done fuckload of good for the punk scene, both in terms of his labels, and also by breaking down the elitist nature of most successful punk bands. they're real people, who don't take themselves at all seriously, and in the early nineties, when big punk acts were all posing and angst-ridden, mike and co kept the mood light and real. and perhaps that's the anti-nofx's problem, they take themselves too seriously, and to have a band like nofx be so successful undermines their entire sub-culture's credability. As the anti-nofxer's remind us, if you've heard one nofx song you've heard them all. what a load of shit. you know it's a lie even as you swear by it. as with all bands, they have a 'sound', but they evolve and change just like everyone else. if you really just 'didn't like them', you would not feel compelled to say the things you say, you would just not listen to them and move on. just as open homophobes are all closet cases, all open nofxphobes are closet fans, but feel their 'credability' will take a well-needed boost if they openly pan them. sorry i forgot, NOFX pride themselves in not using hardly ne technologie or sound editing ha, you fucking waisters, i dont think any of you that sed "nofx are shit" know what your on about, NOFX, have changed over the course of their 18 year career, and if you have listened to most of their stuff you can see, that they have sumthin for almost every1, they are greatly admired by most of the punk seen, the lead singer from bad religion, sed fat mike is the punkest person he has ever met, they are great friends with rancid, and you cant get much more punk than that....... learn about punk be4 you start telling people nofx arent.... listen to the decline and tell me that they aint punk. NOFX are more intellegant than you and your just jealous "tell me what punk is again? i forgot the definition." ooolim-you're a little punk asswipe. beaach. You all sound like a bunch of pansies."I meet him and he was mean."Maybe he didn't like you , maybe you acted like an ass when you meet him.Can't people just not like others?Your lucky he didn't tell you to fuck off.I probably would.I meet him , he was cool. SLAYER - DECADE OF AGGRESSION is the best live album EVER!! SLAYER - DECADE OF AGGRESSION is the best live album EVER!! "He sounds like the opposite of a punk" i think that either the blue meanies or social distortion have the best live album Has anyone ever heard (and read the liner notes to) Tested, Bad Religion's official live CD. If you've read the liner notes, and know how and why the album was made, you know why it's the best live album ever. "Marines' haircuts resemble mohawks. they are hardly "conformist" hair-dos." "He was really brusque and just wanted to get into his limo with his little entourage" "You guys attack pennywise for being unoriginal, but NOFX are ten times more unoriginal. I like them both alright, but the truth is the truth." fuck punk in drublic, this is there best album no other competiton, well other than the decline, but that's not really an album now is it... I once listened to rudimentary peni for like 3 days straight and I had nightmares for a year Whatever u guys have to say against nofx, i answer: LINOLEUM!!! As far as Fat Mike treating his fans like dirt: He's a really good person in the way he treats his fans overall -- like keeping CD and show prices low, etc. He treats them well in the broad sense. But I stayed around for an hour after a show once in order to meet him personally, and although he did shake my hand, he was kind of a dick. He was really brusque and just wanted to get into his limo with his little entourage (the rest of the band and some friends). It was kinda disheartening. You guys attack pennywise for being unoriginal, but NOFX are ten times more unoriginal. I like them both alright, but the truth is the truth. whoever said that stuff about recording with Pro-Tools and making live albums sound good. nofx fuckin rule. one of my fav bands ever. this is a pretty damn good cd, it sounds great and has some good performances on it. To all the people who love this album: I heard NOFX sucks live. The name of their cd says it all. twat Blink 182? Who's that? anyone remember when blink 182 use to be compared to nofx? oh wait, that was 4 years ago. meh Bottom line, this CD kicks ass. Sure, I branched out to other bands after I started listening to Nofx, but this CD still has some classics: linoleum, bob, soul doubt. Also, to the person who said: "They deserve what all shitty garage bands deserve: to be returned to the garage with the door locked and the ignition on." Yeah, I gotta agree with Descendents Livage. The Face to Face live album's pretty darn good too. hey BrandonSideleau Haven't listend to these guys in a while. I think they got pretty crappy. I like the guy down there who described what happens to Punk kids and NOFX. That was pretty good. But anyway, yeah This was a pretty good live album. Pretty funny. The Rudimentary Peni cover is pretty funny. I like when they start talking about Crass, that's funny. The Descedents LIVEAGE! is probably the best live album i've ever heard, but I must agree with that guy below me, the Kill Your Idolds record at cb's is pretty fucking awesome. Ok, I'm done;. Ramones - It's Alive... Probably the best live album ever... SO MUCH ENERGY oi oi oi. Did any of you guys take a listen to either Kill Your Idols "Live at the CBGB's" or The Slackers "Live at Ernesto's"? Those are some pretty great live albums I would recommened to anybody. I remember first hearing this album, reading the title and wondering "why would they call the album something about how much they suck?" My fucking bitch of an ex-girlfriend stole this album from me and won't give it back. For this I really ought to stab that ass-huffing cum dumpster in the throat with a ball-point pen...but anywho, this album is awesome. For all of you that honestly don't like NOFX, that's fine, you're entitled to your own opinion. But to say they suck means that you're obviously a tone-deaf moron and that you should go kill yourself. Honestly, stab yourself in the groin and bleed to death slowly because you honestly don't care about the music, you care about your "punk rock cred". Bitches get stitches. i think viceroymonarch has it pretty well mapped out below. i've noticed (and gone through) the same thing. I almost forgot, how does fat mike treat his fans like dirt? I've talked to him on sevarl different occasions and he was never a dick to me. Just curious to hear others stories... "Haha. You're an idiot. Poseur." my favorite live album is the 7 Seconds "scream real live". Man that cd rocks - R What the fuck is this "hair-do's" shit, fuck you sound like a 5 year old girl. Idiot, does a "hair do" have anything to do with music? FUCK NO! Dam you people are some light weight bitches. " fat mike treats his fans like dirt" Fat Mike is just some overweight guy with a conformist Marines haircut This seems to be the general relationship between punk kid and NOFX, based on my experience and seeing my friends' experiences: Kid first hears NOFX around age 14-15, immediately loves it for the gross-out humor and cursing. Kid branches out to political bands, and begins to appreciate NOFX's politics and lyrics. Around age 18-20, kid falls into a certain sect of punk (ska, emo, oi, hardcore, etc.), and completely turns against NOFX for being fake/immature/cheezy/whatever. After a few years, kid's feelings about NOFX mellow and he remembers liking them when he was younger. Kid finally has a positive opinion of NOFX, but doesn't listen to them at all anymore. Then kid joins the real world and forgets NOFX existed. The end. Go get Sex Pistols Live At Chelmsford Prison if this is your best live album. But you'd probably hate anything that was made before the Reggan era. This album is hilarious. And it's a real sounding album because they kept in some screw ups, and plus I'm fairly certain pro tools (if it was even invented yet) had the technology it does today to make Britney Spears sing well. I don't care if Nofx isnt one of your favorite bands, but most likely everyone that visits this site owns at least one of their CDs, and you have to give them credit for working hard to make it to this level with no help for radio, mtv, etc. Great live album. "I know..they are such a shitty garage band..I might like em if they were as good as one of those REAL punk bands like Good Charlotte or the Starting Line..they are sooooo punk. All the GOOD bands are on MTV. Its sooo gay that nofx has been around for almost 20 years, and has gained thousands of fans around world without any help from mainstream radio or television. I might like them if they were like Good Charlotte and got big the right way.. By bringing their knee pads to the record label and showing them how much they suck..and i dont mean musically. And its totally gay how fat Mike started one of the biggest indy labels to help out other "shitty" garage bands....Nofx arre soo gay" i for one love nofx. how could you guys make fun of this band? they like started punk! i jus dont get it. punk rock 4ever! Hamish is right. NoFx isnt funny unless you're still in to Adam Sandler type stuff. Uh... All those crappy bands you ragged off sound exactly like NoFx. And saying I have a boyfriend? Since when is punk rock about homophobes? So what if I have a fucking boyfriend? I guess they dont get much culture in Tahoe, do they! "Fat Mike is just some overweight guy with a conformist Marines haircut and a shitty band behind him." Someone needs to tell NOFX that they aren't funny at all. The humor is forced. And the music is really average. I loved them when I first go into punk, and then grew out of them pretty quickly. Just not too much to hold one's attention. For some reason, I think most of the comments at the bottom are by the same person... People should only be able to make 1 comment per review. this is the first nofx CD i ever purchased too, but i'd have to argue with you and say that I think it is the best one to pick up first(if your a late comer) because if you have never heard nofx you can pick and choose what cd you want next by the songs on the live album, and which ones you like the most. good god, who called the anti-nofx league in? if you've seen NOFX live then you know that this is no pro tools gimic. Why trash fat mike, hefe, melvin, eric these guys have progressed musically and not jointed a major even tho the majors would like to sighed these guys still have said no. He started a label to get other bands out. The Fat Roster is one of the best on the scene. If your anywhere from 13 to 25 you listened to nofx Nah, NoFx just sucks. How about that? Bean. So it's bean and I wrote been. I suck. You people bashing the review, reviewer and the band are funny. You probably secretly love NOFX and listen to White Trash, Two Heebs and a Been while hiding under your Wonder Woman bed sheets, singing along to Johnny Appleseed while not knowing what the song means. Don't deny it. Fat Mike is just some overweight guy with a conformist Marines haircut and a shitty band behind him. They deserve what all shitty garage bands deserve: to be returned to the garage with the door locked and the ignition on. It reads "art fag." Big deal. Doesn't mean he's against homos. NoFx suck and will always suck. Get this trash off here and do a review of "Give'em Enough Rope". when your producer has pro tools, you can sound like shit and pro tools can make live sounds better - just ask boy sets fire about their new album. I heard they suck. |
