troll below is pretty funny i wish he was a regular poster. anyway, i remember picking this picture disc up the day it came out. this was back when i thought AFI could do no wrong, they were my favorite band, and this release only strengthened my convictions. even though i thought something didn't seem quite right with the way davey looked on the portrait side. "whatever" i thought to myself, he's just feeling really dark these days i guess. and then sing the sorrow came out... and i had to scrap all the AFI tattoo ideas i had been planning out since i was 13 :( and as we all know it didn't stop there, nooo then came decemberunderground. old afi still remains one of my favorite bands, even after i lost my taste for most of the bands i was into around the same time i first heard them. fortunately i found converge and i know they won't do me wrong.

Oh, and anonymous u said little depressed goth kids run around with AFI shirts only thinkin they have one album, all my friends r goth we have AFI shirts, we know every album AFI has, that kind of stuff will happen with any band u guys make it seem like AFI is a horrible band cuz they changed style, a lot of bands do that so diss them too or leave AFI alone.

AFI is the best band ever, those who hate AFI and are dissing them, why did you even go on here, I can't find this cd at any of the hot topics around my city

For all you people that get all angry when someone posts a negative comment about AFI, get over it. his is a place for their opinion and they give it. Now, thatt all set aside this is a decent 2 song album. However, it lacks what we saw in Black Sails and All Hallows era. I agree with all you people out there that are angry at AFI for their newfound mainstreamness. I'm sick and tired of seeing little depressed goth kids running around with AFI shirts on, these are the same kids that have no idea that AFI has more than one album. Also, Hot Topic? Please, there isn't another more cliche teen angst store out there. Although AFI's newer music can hardly be put up to the same caliber as their old classics, that doesn't mean it isn't good, because it is, you just can't compare the old AFI to the new.

NOFX isnt an acronym, buddy. :P

"AFI and NOFX are two of the most overrated and worst bands out there IMO."

i guess this guy has a real problem with acronyms

I love AFI, "Now The World" is the best song by AFI in my opinion, my other favorites include: "My Michelle"(cover)and "Leaving Song PT.2"

all my love and less
Britt

David Lepage.... DAVID LEPAGE... AFI ROCK... now the world... WHAT A GOOD SONG

this only _hints_ at what AFI is capable of, like what you will see once you hear their new album when it drops. it's good to see these kids finally found their niche

"Amen. People say AFI is punk and when they disagree with them, they just say "well, then what is it?" It's shit! It's metalcore, if you classify it as music."

I really hope you don't seriously think that AFI is metalcore...

This is Davey from AFI.

Screw you guys, I am going home.

hi

I smell AFI covering Cum On Feel The Noize. Now Davey will stop wanting to be Danzig & he'll perm his hair, wear rainbow spandex, & wrestling sneakers.
I can almost hear it, cheesy 80's metal with more wooo ohhh's then you can shake a deep fried prostitute at.

quiet riot!? hahahahahahahahahahahaha

AFI is the best hardcore band since Quiet Riot rocked it back in the day. If you don't like AFI go buy the new Fuck41 record and knock yourself out.

"Wow, such a witty statement filled with passion and sheer genius.
Your life looks very promising, champ."

^Wears black makeup and a hoodie^ (Most probably)

A flat release. Recycled energy. Heard this before, and have heard the same thing since "Black Sails...". Whatever. I put it on a mix CD, and listen to it occasionally to remind myself that I used to listen to AFI religiously.

Hot Topic? I don't leave my home except to drink at the bar, so I haven't noticed that punk merchandise has found a home now. I see that they have nice bracelets and stuff on their webpage, but I would rather see mannequins rather than the stale models they have posing their merch.

I think Davey's one of the sexier rockers out there. I don't mind if he wears make up. I can't see why this makes people upset, but people need a way to vent their anger I 'spose.

AFI will continue to grow until we hear them on the radio. And this will cause even more of the likes of us to voice our disparagement. I, for one will be glad to hear some good music instead of the hollow soulless shell of the tunes we are still being bombarded with today.

I will still by their next album however.

- Speed_of_Mind

ok, for one:
davey havoc and the rest of afi have a contract with hot topic. hot topic gives them free clothes/makeup/blowjobs/whatever...i read it in an interview with davey. so that's probably why the album is there. doesn't make it any cooler, in fact, it makes it 10x lamer. think about it, it has nothing to do with dreamworks - it has everything to do with afi.

second:
davey wants to be danzig. seriously. watch a danzig show, then watch an afi show. it's like fucking identical. so any originality or energy to come from their live show is trite and derivitive.

third:

i'm sorry, but these guys aren't half as poetic as everyone thinks they are.

fourth:

why does everyone on here bash on people for giving criticism? that's what this is for isn't it? afi sucks in my book, so i post it here.

fifth:

isn't it funny to see all the davey lookalikes nowadays at the shows? black clothes, fishnets, makeup, devil locks or davey bangs, and ALL of them either wearing afi or misfits shirts.

sixth:

but hey, this is my opinion.

I dont care what anyone has to say. Here is my take on AFI.

1. Davey, why the FUCK do you paint your face white? You look like that panty waste BITCH Marilyn Manson. What next, breast implants?

2. AFI's music has matured very much, and I enjoy it. It can be fast, melodic, slow, and downright dark. They have more talent than 90% of the other bands in the same scene, you must admit that. Lets all jump on the "I hate AFI" bandwagon like what happened back in the days when Green Day was popular amongst the kiddies. Personally, I have been listening them for over 7 years, and will always be a huge fan of them. Unless, of course, Davey keeps dressing like a cheap Vegas hooker with his face painted like a circus freak.

3. Shut your mouth and open your eyes is the best AFI CD, and will always be. 2nd, Very proud of Ya, 3rd Answer that. Black sails was good too, but everything after that cannot be even conpared and contrasted to previous works, due to the fact the music has drastically changed, and AFI has gone another route. Look at Musicians like Madonna. She is a great musician because she can diversify and change her style, and what ever she does, she does a good job doing it and it doesnt matter because she is, Madonna. Anyways, enough about Madonna, I hate that whore.

4. I need to take a shit, and there is no toilet paper. That sucks.

OUT

Hey, what's wrong with hoodies?

"I hate slow whiny goth music."

Wow, such a witty statement filled with passion and sheer genius.
Your life looks very promising, champ.

Always remember, you're a winner.

"AFI and NOFX are two of the most overrated and worst bands out there IMO."

Amen. People say AFI is punk and when they disagree with them, they just say "well, then what is it?" It's shit! It's metalcore, if you classify it as music. I mean, hardcore punk is still more melodic than this shit. I don't care about these two songs: I hate slow whiny goth music. But for all you boys who like black makeup and hoodies, enjoy.

For all you fools who have such an enormous problem with this record being sold exclusively through Hot Topic, can't you find something worth bitching about? This 10" Picture Disc was $6, I will go ahead and make the assumption that if this was released any other way it would be much more expensive. Also I bet this decision was not made by the band but by Dreamworks. This 10" was released to keep attention on the band until they release their next album. It is not a record to base your opinion of the band off of. AFI has the most amazing fan base with thousands and thousands of great fans who greatly appreciate what they do because it is extremely intelligent and musically amazing. This 10" includes songs recorded not intended for the new album because they probably just don't fit together with the other songs. Anyways, anyone who thinks they should spend their time complaining about AFI at least try to find something relevant to the band that is valid and not solely based on opinion. They are easily one of the best well rounded bands out right now. If you aren't down then pack up and find some other band to complain about how you don't like their facade.

I downloaded these two songs off Kazaa, and I thought they were great!, Fuck all you AFI haters that do nothing but talk shit because you have nothing better to do because they obviously took time to post something negative about them, if you dont like them, why do you even bother posting about it?? Well, I enjoy them both everytime I listen to them, because they do hook me along the way with the melodies this song has. I think the album will be similar to this, or even better which will be good, and for the shit about it being a advertisement, fuck off, I think she wrote a great review and obviously some people can spell way better than others if you think its an advertisement because it has no spelling errors..How fucking childish and stupid,

goth? punk? hardcore? loads of shit.

hot topic? the toilet.

AFI and NOFX are two of the most overrated and worst bands out there IMO.

Great review, I really enjoyed reading it.

And yes, these 2 songs are absolutely fantastic.
Now that I know the lyrics, I like them even more.
This certainly shows how AFI have evolved over the years and promises another amazing new record.

Oh, and would you people please stop calling this review a 'press release' just because it doesn't consist of "omglolol they slwoed down kekeke^_^ selloutz".

i dont give afuck where they sell it. i hate them because they make really bad music.

Okay, I guess the press release issue has already been brought up. Its just.... you're gushing. And its really well written. Two factors that send up the major warning flares. Your other record reviews (ej. Snapcase) have the same type of voice. If you ever work in media and see these things, you'll understand. I suppose its better than "This is the best record ever man!!" Eh, whatever...

--Cos

Is this a record review or a press release?

Seriously.

--Cos

afi sucks. overrated goth-metal-techno-pop-jazz-country "punks" plus, they wear makeup which puts them on another level of fruitiness.

**throws afi cd's in trash and pops in some limp bizkit :0 yo! yo!, i did it all for the nookie . . . the nookie. . . so you can take that cookie**

This is shit.

****puts AFI cd in trash, puts Opeth 'Blackwater Park' in stereo. Ahhhh....much better****

Slowing down doesnt mean becoming comercially successful. Black Flag slowed down and were even MORE brutal.

This band makes me want to vomit on myself.

that comment below me was absolute horse shit. i dont even need to go into detail.

funny how everyone rags on NOFX for never changing their sound AND THEN rag on AFI for changing theirs. arent we fickle.

Come on people, these guys obviously slowed their sound waaaay down so that they could get more airplay on the radio and MTV and inturn make more money and be richrockstars. in other words, they sold their fucking souls, for some money, fuck AFI.

It's annoying that they released it at Hot Topic....but why release it at all?! It's two previews! They should have just released the songs as downloads like they are now. But I guess the label must have had a say in it somewhere. I like a lot of their stuff. But they're not my favorite band. I think Janelle is cool though.

Well, I've enjoyed all of Janelle's reviews, although I haven't agreed with all of them. This one definitely. Sometimes a band just gives me a bad taste right away. I bought this "Punk Rawk Show" DVD (I think it was the first one) a while back and there's an interview with Davey that just bugs the crap out of me. I can't place it, but seeing these guys twice hasn't helped. I guess I don't see it.
As for the Hot Topic thing, they must not care about people throwing "sellout" around. I'm not saying they are, but come on, you go to a major and release a vinyl at Hot Topic only, you're going to piss some people off.

Does Janelle work at the Goth Topic?

They are only misleading us with these average "gother-than-thou" low energy songs. The new album will sound like "shut your mouth and open your eyes" only faster. Maybe even like Heckle(rip) or Sick of it All. I know this because I know everything.

GOD

I just RE-Downloaded these songs to check them out again and see if they caught me and they unfortunately did not....they are very boring and not up to par with other AFI releases. Not terrible, but I expected better. "Reiver's Music" is kind of flat and uninspired. "Now the World" has some good melodys, but nothing special.

I'm not a big AFI fan, but only selling this at hot topic is really wack. That is exactly whay punk rock should not be about. I remember what AFI said when they went to a major label, something along the lines of how they wouldn't change and the label will be good for them. If being forced to or agreeing to only selling something only at the most ridiculous example of corporate punk is for the better...then...I can't think how to finish that line with something clever. Either way, what a joke.

They also sell sock arm bands for those too lazy to make their fucking own. Cashing in on a dead revolution. Punk died in '84.

The Goth Topic sucks. I've never been there, but thats where my poser little sister goes to buy her Brody Armstrong shirts. AFI only selling their music there proves what corporate slimeballs they must be.

"this is more metal than punk rock" "this is pop-punk marketed to the public as punk rock"

Metal? Pop-punk? I think half the people who insult AFI haven't even listened to them. They're just everyon'e favorite whipping boys nowadays. Most people who compare them to the Misfits (which they don't really sound like other than the woah-ohs) probably haven't heard much AFI. And for christ's sake, what does it matter if they sell it at hot topic? Or how much make-up they wear? Isn't the music a tad more important than that. Anyways, I d/led the two songs, not their best work, but it's solid. I'm pretty sure these are the throwaway songs anyway, so the album should probably be a good deal better.

Red juice, red juice, red juice. Need more apples!

What's so great about that cover? It's not like no one has ever had red christmas lights or bats before...

i just got mine. i guess people in Oklahoma (avoid at all costs.) don't like AFI enough (it was gone the day it was released in Chicago)

what is the little writing on everyone elses. mine is something along the lines of "nothing from nowhere" and "i am no one"

I'm expecting AFI's new album to sound nothing like these two tracks! I have the feeling that we're all in for a surprise when the new album hits stores on March 25th. "Epic" is the word I'm hoping for it to be described in a review as.

Pat's got a point, these guys are no Sum 41.

godly.

I just dont get AFI... i think they suck but every one else praises them. And the fact that they are only selling this at Hot Topic... mad stupid. Anyway, yea my point... I think AFI sucks and I dont see what in the world makes them a good band.-BostonMusicGuy

going to be sex!

ill buy that for a dollar.
seriously no more than a dollar.

AFI is the best band out there right now. Bugoff punks. The new record is going to be sex.

This band makes me want to vomit on myself

did anyone think my hot topic joke was funny? was stale rememberance to afiish?

whats a "hot topic" one day is a stale remberance the next...if afi didn't feed off the ignorance of jocks and kids who think the new misfits are cool they'd have no staying power. i think they should tour with papa roach. this isn't new its not exciting and sounds more like metal then punk rock.

AFI sounded better when they were hardcore. Shut your mouth and black sails were good stuff, but they lost their edge on art of drowning, and will only continue to do so.

Another major label band playing pop-punk marketed to the public as punk rock. At least these guys have put out some good cds though, more than I can say about 99% of the other major label "punk" bands, at least its progress.
-JD0e-

these songs are carbon copies of older better songs. They're redundant, by the book, and pretty predictable even for AFI. The lyrics are just edgar allen poe crossed with cradle of filth, I put low standards on AFi, they could at least have met those. Download the songs if you must, otherwise save your money.

Intense, no way.
wyzo

It's weird, I had all their records, and knew that old sound, and when I got Black Sails, I didn't like it. Then, I went back, I don't know how much later, maybe a month or 2 and listened to it again and thought it was awesome. Their best stuff up to that point.

I love it when a band expads it's sound. But I just think that the new songs on this thing are boring. I like the direction, but hopefully the album will be more exciting and mezmerizing.

Am I the only one here who thinks that AFI's older stuff like "Answer that and Stay Fashionable" is much better than newer stuff like "Black Sails in the Sunset"? I own all the AFI full-lengths that they have released, and I was shocked at the change that happened between the two albums mentioned above. Their old stuff was real punk rock. It is just my opinion, but it seems like AFI is attempting to become something more than just a good band. Their music changed from good ol' punk rock to a dark, gothic sounding, worship-me-you-ignorant-masses, type of music. Im not saying that their music is bad; the poetic lyrics are genious and their sound still does it for me, but give me their older stuff anyday.

One more thing...no I'm not a pr person, yes I go to shows. Sorry, I didn't know to be a punk and into music and write reviews you had to have poor grammar and typos.
Well, as I see it, I guess I'm a contradiction: an educated punk.
--I thought there were more out there, but by the look at some of the reviews there aren't. Too bad.
For all those who back me up and defend me (which shouldn't have to be done!) thanx!

Ouch!!!! Some of you guys are harsh! I knew stuff would be said about it being sold at Hot Topic (I know, I had my qualms too), but, hell, I think AFI is a good band, so I shelled out the 5 or 6 bucks. Anyway, I guess I get a little carried away, and maybe it sounds like a "press release." I never thought of that, you know? I just listen and write, and that's what came out!
For those of you who like my writing, all I can say is thanx. And to those of you who have critisisms, I'm glad you vent them. To write, one must definitely have a "thick skin." But I think the comments should be more about the band and their music. I don't know.
-J
By the way - Scott - good job finding the artwork.

I wish AFI would stop trying to sound like Paul Westerberg.

Hot Topic isn't THAT bad. Sure they sell shitty t-shirts and overly priced close bought by little kids. But you can also buy alot of good CDs there that can't find in other stores, atleast where I live. Bands like Evergreen Terrace,Unearth,Shai Hulud.

Excellent, very well written review. My guess is Janelle is a English or creative writing major and, if not, she should be. She has a great knack for writing and an excellent vocabulary.

In my totally biased opinion of the songs, I like them. They're not their best work, no, but they're pretty damn good. I'm anxiously awaiting their new album and the tour that will follow. However, I'm still hoping for a Black Sails-esque album. The Art of Drowning rocks, but that's about as "soft" as I'd like AFI to get...

Yeah, i definitely recall praising this reviewer on her review of Snapcase's End Transmission.

Has she given a bad review yet? Bad meaning giving the band a bad score.

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

Hey Scott, I've totally praised a few of her reviews. Don't say no ones commented, cause there have been a few of us singing her praises. (although, I do kinda agree with this almost sounding like a press release. I guess when you're a good writer, and you love a band that's what you get...)

once again this score is for the whole only being sold at hot topic thing. seriously, that is the lamest thing I have ever heard. i don't really care if a band signs with a major, but endorsing a shitty fucking store like that is the epitomy of selling out if you ask me.

I liked Black Sails (A lot)...all their song sound the same now days...Woooaaahhh oooahhhhhh woooooahhhhhhhhhhhhh...but I will wait for the album, because they just might surprise me,,,wwooooahhhhhhhh woahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

It's funny.

Janelle has been writing a bunch of reviews for us in the past few months, and they've all been praising different bands, from the UK Subs to Snapcase. No one has said a thing about her reviewing style [which is excellent, I might add], until this review.

She must work for Dreamworks since she gave it a good review!

You guys are fucking dolts sometimes, you know that? This score is for you.

-Scott

I actually had the pleasure to step into Hot Topic to buy the 10" in person, because I couldn't find it through the Hot Topic mailorder website. Funny thing I noticed was that, I didn't even know they have been carrying Vinyl Records from other bands for a while now. Anyway, I was able to snag a couple copies of the AFI 10" before the little 12 year old girls start comming in. I thought the 2 songs were pretty good though, "Now The World" is a really awesome song. Once I get bored with the record I'll probrably sell it on ebay, then I can buy a new house in the bahamas, and drink my Martini.

I heard this was really bad and the two new songs sound nothing like the upcoming album...?

"Now The World" is a very boring song. really nothing new there at all. "Reiver's Music" sounds like a damn propagandhi song for the first 30 seconds, oh and I liked the PTW acoustic part in the middle. Ya know, I've been a huge AFI fan through everything they've done, but these two songs just don't do anything for me.

I'm anxious to hear those two songs and the new album. I'm even a little more curious about the review though. Janelle sounds more to me like someone who works at Dreamworks in the marketing/PR department than a kid who goes to a show. I could definitely be wrong, but if I'm not, that seems a little weak. I'd rather hear a straight up fans opinion, not a fucking paid label lackey.
Happy holidays.
Mr. Kenzington

Janelle has done some great reviews....but ill agree that this sounds a lot like an advertisement. Mainly because there are no typos and the grammr is perfect. Or maybe Janelle is just a great typer. Anyway, I like AFi....but these songs just didn't hit me. Sure, they have an interesting new direction, but they need to make it more exciting.

to the guy a couple below me, i agree, the public relation machine at dreamworks is lurking. i agree with saying that afi is like fine wine, better with age, but that is only if the two songs they just released don't count. those songs really make me scared about how this new album is gonna be. lets hope it is black sails all over again!!!!

-pwfanatic

They are pretty good, but I don't know about "pure genius."

what the fuck? theres no way in hell this review was made by a real human being. It sounds more like a frickn advertisement then a real review....

"this band was cool for like 15 seconds in 1999"....so I guess since they're not "cool" anymore we can't like them...you're so punk. "This band wears makeup.".....and your point is? You guys sound more like little highschool girls than intelligent people.

this band wears make-up.

-exhaustra

this band hasn't been good since "shut your mouth"

This band was cool for like 15 seconds in 1999.

The Next 10" should be available only at the gap.

good review though

Black sails was good...it was really good...but ground breaking? What about Shut your mouth...

First off......AFI was a great band and I like all of their albums, but it does seem that they have lost some energy. I think we need darker bands than AFI. But overall this 10" is only average and very mundane. It being sold at hot topic ONLY is pretty annoying too. WHY? I mean, I have nothing against the place (when I wanted to find a Black Flag shirt and couldn't pay online I went there) but why ONLY there?

Now the world and revier music are two of the worst songs I have heard in a long time. No hook, no energy that made AFI a decent band. Blah Blah Blah

-freedom to oppress

this a great 10" even if hot topic is lame. i only hope the album is this good.

Yo scotty boy, I checked out afireinside.net. It's on the right hand side with the link that says "336". Don't ask me why!! Later gator.

Only available though Hot Topic?? What the fuck! Hell, the sweater that my grandma made me for Christmas is more punk that Hot Topic. Stupid Danzing JR.
-LeMoNcHoLy(SaYnE)_GuY

P.S. The sweater ani't punk, but its damn confortable

Vien-
I'll check ebay.com, good idea. There was nothing on afireinside.net, I had already looked. Same with hottopic.com.

-Scott

Yo scotty, you can find a picture of the cover art all over at ebay.com, do you know how much it's goin for!! Or go to afireinside.net, the AFI guys probrably posted it up already by now. Peace out brutha.

'available only through Hot Topic stores'
The review was over for me as soon as I read that.

Whooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaawwwwhooooooooo!! whooa whoooaaaa whoaaaaaa!!!!awhooooooooooo!!!whoa!!!!

file under - spooky!!

If anyone knows where to find the cover art for this 10", please let me know. I can't find it anywhere.

-Scott