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Sparta / Glassjaw / Hot Water Music / Dredg

Sparta/Glassjaw/Hot Water Music/Dredg: live in San Diegolive in San Diego (2003)
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Reviewer Rating: 2.5
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Contributed by: SheenaSheena
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I hate shows when I'm sick. And with the way gas prices are going here in San Diego, I was discouraged from going to the show. But it was my duty to be there and Sparta is good, so I went. This was my first time in Soma. I was surprised at the way the venue looked because it was a lot different .


I hate shows when I'm sick. And with the way gas prices are going here in San Diego, I was discouraged from going to the show. But it was my duty to be there and Sparta is good, so I went. This was my first time in Soma. I was surprised at the way the venue looked because it was a lot different than I had expected. It appeared to be an abandoned movie theater, with a few walls knocked out, modified to make a fairly large (small) venue. In the lobby of the venue, there were 2 movie projectors showing the "SnoCore" DVD over and over. There were people skiing, snowboarding, or riding mini stunt bikes. Since I was hanging out solo for most of the night, it was a good way to kill time between sets, and through most of Glass Jaw's set (who I swear played for a thousand years).

The first band Dredg, sucked. Many would disagree, based on the conversations I listened in on while I sat in the lobby through Glass Jaw (I'll get into that in a minute). I can't put it nicely. It was torture to watch the entire set, I should have sat in the lobby, but I guess I was just hoping that they would just play one good song. I am not sure if they do this for all of their performances, but the band decided to do something artsy by putting 2 portraits and a v shaped branch thing on the stage. From my point of view, the painting looked like a 4 armed praying lady and a bird. What their motives were, are beyond me. They filled their music with noisy sounds that just took away from their true music. It annoyed me, and as they continued to bore me, the songs started to blend together and sound like one long song. The lead singer actually sang into a trumpet, into the microphone to get a different effect on his voice. I give him points for creativity but his band still sucked.

I can't write very much about Hot Water Music. This is the 6th time I've seen them, and I've just grown bored of them. If you haven't seen them live yet, then you need to get out of the house more often. This band tours like there is no tomorrow. They're just always here. They put on the typical performance. The same old shit as the last time they were here and I wouldn't be surprised if the set lists were almost identical, because their entry to the stage was (at least based on my jacked memory). And I'm no hater so don't get me wrong, they're good, but I could use a change of pace.

I listened to about 3 songs of Glass Jaw before I realized I just couldn't stand them. They are like a crappy version of Thrice mixed with someone else. That is a bad comparison, I know, but I just couldn't think of who they really sound like. I sat in the lobby for a very long time waiting for them to finish. Just when I thought they were done, they played one more. I thought that it would never stop. It was a shame, I was looking forward to seeing what the hype was all about for this band. Maybe I'm just dumb, but I didn't see anything special about this band. It's unoriginal and boring music. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

Sparta rocks me. I remember the first time I saw them about year and a half ago and they just blew my mind. I knew this band was going somewhere and that I had to see them again. Here was my again, and although I was very sick, and 2/3 of the previous bands were crap, it was worth going down to see them. Sparta is absolutely amazing. They are like a simmered down At The Drive In (possibly due to former members), but better. If you don't have their latest LP Wiretap Scars, then go buy it because it's very inexpensive and worth every penny. If they are coming to a town near you, then go. I don't care what you do, or how you do it, if you haven't heard this band yet, then get on it.

This show gets 5 stars, 4 for Sparta, 1 for Hot Water Music, none for any one else.

 


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dropkick (March 7, 2003)

ya,they all suck.............

Anonymous (March 7, 2003)

que putada.

Anonymous (March 7, 2003)

I'll blame the reviewer's bad opinion of the Glassjaw set on his sickness and lack of actual being present for the band's set, because Glassjaw puts on a great show. I'd definetly tell the reviewer to check them out in better health, because they aren't boring or unorginal. They're at the top of their field and they have really wild shows.

Anonymous (March 7, 2003)

I seen this show last night in St.Louis.I had never heard of dredg before though I really enjoyed their set. HWM was incredible like they always are. The reviewer complaining about seeing them too many times is mind-boggling to me. They only played 30 minutes though and it seemed to me by how dead the crowd was when they where playing that the majority of the crowd was not familiar with hwm. I talked to Chris after their set ,he is an incredible guy though he was also incredibly drunk. Glassjaw was nothing special. I just couldn't get into them.

Daegan (March 7, 2003)

Bands that misspell their names should be shot.

Anonymous (March 7, 2003)

isn't there a screening process anymore?

Anonymous (March 6, 2003)

how do you review if you hate all the bands, you were sick, and you've seen them all. horrible review.

Anonymous (March 6, 2003)

kill those fucking ruthless bastards...

sickboi (March 5, 2003)

Comment of the day award by punkboy.

"Soft, yet hard". Heh heh.

Anonymous (March 5, 2003)

I saw this show in seattle. You are a dipshit. glassjaw blew sparta out of the water. I like both bands equally, but glassjaw was amazing (as always). How the fuck can you say they sucked if you just sat in the lobby. Each band was worth every penny, even dredg. This is the poorest review i have ever read on this site, and whoever let this pile of poo make the reviews list should be ashamed of themselves. If something "sucks" try to do a better job explaining why, you numbskull.

And the comment of the year goes to that guy.

punkboy_1 (March 5, 2003)

sparta rocks, they have an awesome sound. soft, yet hard.

Anonymous (March 5, 2003)

I saw this show in seattle. You are a dipshit. glassjaw blew sparta out of the water. I like both bands equally, but glassjaw was amazing (as always). How the fuck can you say they sucked if you just sat in the lobby. Each band was worth every penny, even dredg. This is the poorest review i have ever read on this site, and whoever let this pile of poo make the reviews list should be ashamed of themselves. If something "sucks" try to do a better job explaining why, you numbskull.

lou-s (March 4, 2003)

melvyl's post made me laugh...

...if i only had a dollar for everytime i read the words "this is the worst review ever" (or anything to that effect)...

Anonymous (March 4, 2003)

close minded fuck, you dont understand shit, get the fuck out of this scene.........worst review ever you mall paunk bitch!!

-Dup

Anonymous (March 4, 2003)

not everyone likes everyband....... maybe they're underrated becuase they are not as good as you htink they are.

the tour would be better if hot hot heat were still on it.

Anonymous (March 4, 2003)

with all my experience, i've discovered that most punks, not all, are dumb.

i'm not saying that people who listen to d4 or the clash are dumb, just most people who portray themselves as punk rockers.

Anonymous (March 4, 2003)

This has to be hands down the worst review I have ever read in my entire life. Obviously the reviewer wasnt in the mood to even see a show, much less be open to anything different than what they already deemed "good". So they automatically shut out everything that a nomral music loving person would absorb from the show. Dredg put on probably one of the best performances I have ever seen....and anyone with any open-ness to new original music should check them out. They have been un noticed and under-rated for a long time now. I just thought that I would set that straight.

Anonymous (March 4, 2003)

Cock is the new pussy.
twat

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

"It is great that you felt the need to list all those cd's, but it still doesn't change the fact that "EYEWTKAS" is the most emmotional cd I'VE EVER HEARD."
you should listen to nirvana's in utero. that cd is so damn emotional i have a hard time listening to it.

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

eh, hot water music doesn't come to california as often as all of you are assuming.
this person has just probably been a fan for a long time, and sometimes one tires of a band when they hear them too much.
and the review isn't automatically bad just because you disagree with the opinion.

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

This guy sounds like the spoiled california kid he probly is. "Hot water music is always here, iam bored cry cry cry". Dude not everyone lives in california and has these bands rollin through town every second weekend. Ever thought of this novel idea? You dont have to go see them EVERY time they are in your area. P.S Sparta is amazing.

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

The guy below me has a good point. He might not have heard the other cd's.

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

It is great that you felt the need to list all those cd's, but it still doesn't change the fact that "EYEWTKAS" is the most emmotional cd I'VE EVER HEARD. Did I say it WAS the most you jack ass? NO. I merely said it was the most I have heard. Wow there are so many morons!

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

I agree with you on Shai Hulud for sure, but the others can be argued.

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

"I have never heard a more emotional cd than "EYEWTKAS" "

I wasnt going to commment, but this is ridiculous. I could name 10 albums that easily surpass the afore mentoined "eyewtkas"..

1.Fugazi-13 Songs
2.Grade-Under The Radar
3.Hot Water Music - Fuel For the Hate Game(ANY HWM album actually)
4.I Hate Myself- S/T
5.Jawbreaker-Unfun
6.Lifetime-Jerseys Best Dancers
7.Moneen-Smaller Chairs for the early 1900's.
8.Shai Hulud-Hearts Once Nourished
9.Smoking Popes-Destination Failure
10.The Killing Tree - ANYTHING

And that concludes my rant for the day. Im sorry I had to waste time on this, but someone that makes such a terrible statement has to be proven wrong right away. Cheers.

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

Wow, glassjaw unoriginal=whoever wrote this is fucking retarded. I used to like coming to this site and reading good reviews, latley this place has sucked, but now I might not ever come here again.
And the guy that said "Wuss-emo" whatever the fuck his name is didn't even like them. That is GOOD! That kid has terrible taste in everything. Why would he like a band that actually takes a chance to do something new. I have never heard a more emotional cd than "EYEWTKAS"
Please someone screen the reviews before they get posted.

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

The aformentioned bands create good music that is original, and evasive to the ears of those who are born and bred musically on mundane bands like, the starting line. Hence, the comment below.
Go cry me a river and sit in the corner pouting, but while you do it, get some fucking musical taste. And take your pouka shell necklace off!

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

this site is so weird because in some respects it actually is worth visiting but in others it makes me never want to come back because of the childish garbage like this review. you don't have to like the bands i like, but please try and pretend to be a real writer.

to the people that run this site: keep up the good work you're doing about 80% of the time, but please cut out the junk and remember that 5 great reviews are better than 25 like this one. oh yeah, and sparta was decent but tony kept rushing in parts and ended up being pretty distracting to the song. glassjaw was by far the best band, musically and performance-wise. beck's guitar playing is amazing and when they played two tabs of mescaline it proved how dynamic they are. (i went to the great american music hall show in san francisco, fyi)

The_Killings (March 3, 2003)

"I bet their a huge Starting Line fan."

The moment you wrote that, you lost any right to an opinion.

People not liking your favorite band does NOT equal them liking some shitty pop-rock band. That's the most tired, overused response to a shitty review, or a rip on a band that people like. It shows a total lack of anything original to say, and, more importantly, a head lodged firmly in your ass.

Also "their" indicates a group of people who posess something. I learned that in grade 3. You should have too.

Eat shit & die.

Anonymous (March 3, 2003)

Whoever reviewed this shit is a complete moron and has no taste in music, whatsoever. I bet their a huge Starting Line fan. This review ruined my outlook on this web page. I'm never coming back

relay1112 (March 2, 2003)

Why's it say in "New Releases" that RAW is releasing Black Phantom Crusades today?

dignin (March 2, 2003)

how does he try to be Cedric? Cause they both sing?

Anonymous (March 2, 2003)

HWM and Glassjaw rock. Sparta is a fag version of At the drive in. Their singer tries to be Cedric but falls up well short. He should sing for a band more his speed, like Dashboard confessional.

Anonymous (March 2, 2003)

"the songs started to blend together and sound like one long song"

exactly, because there meant to be taken as a whole experience, if you want radio singles, and soundbites, sparta's your band evidentally.

Dredg is amazing, and "el cielo" is one of the best records put out recently. A concept album, that is one long song, and DOES blend together, almost seamlessly. Its beautiful, and kicks my ass everytime.

hot water music owns you, and as soon as mars volta releases there record, no one will remember who sparta was.

wyzo

punkcorekid (March 2, 2003)

I've only heard one Dredg song, and it sucked. Glassjaw rules, the new isn't AS bad as everyone is making out to be. I don't like Hot Water Music. And Sparta only wish they could be better than At The Drive-In. Cedric's voice is a million times better than Jim's.

dignin (March 2, 2003)

oh yeah, I just got back from this show in slc and it rocked. All the bands were amazing, but I was especially impressed with dredg.

dignin (March 2, 2003)

its called a prediction waste, you know like predicting who is going to win the superbowl or who is gonna be pamela lee's next white trash husband.

Anonymous (March 1, 2003)

Few things:

1) I love Dredg. They aren't for everyone but I happen to think they put out one of the best albums in 2002, maybe even the best. If you are feeling open minded, check them out.

2) I love Glassjaw. Just like Dredg, Glassjaw isn't for everyone. Yeah, this reviewer is a jackass for saying they are a "crappy version of Thrice" and totally "unoriginal" yet he can't compare them to anyone. Nice move douchebag.

3) You didn't even go to the whole show, so how the fuck are you going to review a band's performance without seeing all of it? You're an idiot.

I would like to give this reviewer a -10. This is one of the worst reviews this site has ever had the displeasure of putting up.

See these stars above? Those are for all the bands on this tour who are too good NOT to give a good score to.

waste_elite (March 1, 2003)

yeah, uh hu, good call

declaring the best albums of the year 2 months into it.

Anonymous (March 1, 2003)

dignin you are a wise man/woman

Anonymous (March 1, 2003)

I just saw HWM on their own last night in Edmonton also, and I am totally blown away! I had only seen them once prior at Warped, but that did them no justice. The show last night in the small club rocked hard! Unreal.

dignin (March 1, 2003)

best album of 2003...cursive's the ugly organ. But the mars volta album will be awesome.

waste_elite (March 1, 2003)

"To the comment about nothing being better than ATDI Fugazi is alot better"

this is true

actually there are a lot of bands better than ATDI, sparta isn't one of them though.

Anonymous (March 1, 2003)

"Nothing's better than ATDI, fuckface."

I take it this person has never heard the mars volta. . .thier 2 song promo, which is floating around the internet, is a sign that thier upcoming full length will be the best album of 2003. . .hands down.

dignin (March 1, 2003)

sparta is headlining this tour? From the radio adds and fliers it looked as though glassjaw was headlining. Or are they co-headling?

sparta is great
glassjaw is very good
and HWM is amazing.

Anonymous (March 1, 2003)

Ok dudes, look. That wuss-emo rock dude thinks glassjaw sucks!!! That should tell you something. Give it up, because they are one of the worst bands ever. And every single one of their fans should be shot, thus making the world a better place.

Anonymous (March 1, 2003)

I saw Hot Water Music last night on their own. Fucking awesome. Cool guys too. They got hella drunk on Canadian beer. The whole night they were saying how suprised they were that they could draw such a big crowd in a smaller town. It was great. It was also really awesome to be able to see them on their own, not on some package tour where they only get to play for half an hour. In a way I'm kind of glad I don't live in California or something. People there take shows like that for granted.

Anonymous (March 1, 2003)

glass jaw sucks, ha, you fuckin suck you silly wanker. i hope i never read another one of your reviews you piece of shit. fuck you, you fucking fuck

Anonymous (March 1, 2003)

To the comment about nothing being better than ATDI Fugazi is alot better

Anonymous (March 1, 2003)

All I have to say is SHEENA can go to hell and burn while having sex with Hitler for saying that Glassjaw sucks. I'm sure they rocked the hair off of her vagina!

TheBouncingSoul (March 1, 2003)

this review is even worse the second time around

sickboi (March 1, 2003)

2 words...twat rules.

Vien (March 1, 2003)

Is it just me, or does the new Swingin' Utters album sucks?

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

Holy fucking shit. Is this what public education is producing? "glassjaw sounds like thrice mixed with someone else?" Are you retarded? Seriously, you have to be at least mildly retarded. Jesus christ what school do you go to? Do they know about you? Or do you sit in the back of all your classes and constantly nod your head and pretend you understand what they're saying? Oh wait, never mind. You're an exchange student. My bad, I understand now. I know that english isn't your first language but don't let that discourage you. If you practice really hard, then maybe someday you can form complete sentences. Oh really? This show sucked? What a big fucking surprise. Anyone go to the henry rollins spoken word last night in the 619? Short mother fucker. You can seriously put him in your pocket. Fuck all of you. twat

sweetsugarpezz (February 28, 2003)

sorry on the double posting action below.

sweetsugarpezz (February 28, 2003)

sure, glassjaw is an acquired taste, and i fucking love em. hot water music is damn good, and sparta is incredible (but not ATDI). ive heard of dredg but ive never heard them, so i dunno bout them. and oh yes, your review fucking sucked hard. but thats been established.

later on kiddies,
-sweetsugarpezz

sweetsugarpezz (February 28, 2003)

sure, glassjaw is an acquired taste, and i fucking love em. hot water music is damn good, and sparta is incredible (but not ATDI). ive heard of dredg but ive never heard them, so i dunno bout them. and oh yes, your review fucking sucked hard. but thats been established.

later on kiddies,
-sweetsugarpezz

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

i think that in order to write a review...a "reviewer" must prove they can actually write. The movielife review was an embarassment for this site. maybe you should separate reviews writtten by staffers from reviews written by jackasses and fuck ups.
-patemo

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

I would like to say to the reviewer that you are 100% right.
HWM was ok, Glassjaw makes terrible music and had a set that was way too long, Sparta was awesome.
But I would like to throw in that this was the WORST crowd i've ever seen.
Barely any cheering or moving or anything. If I didn't know any better I'd have thought they were dead.

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

Nothing's better than ATDI, fuckface.

kev (February 28, 2003)

Old glassjaw definitly kicks the living fuck out of new glassjaw. but thats ok, i'd still go to see em live.

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

christ. it gets me annoyed as hell when people like you (Sheena) get to see a great band like HWM a lot and talk about it like it's some kind of a plague. i'd kill to be able to see them that many times. i live in the middle of fucking Canada so that doesn't get to happen too much.

ThisIsNotEmo (February 28, 2003)

alright, how can somebody be so stupid as to think that Dredg and Hot Water Music suck? They put out two of the best albums last year, dont get me wrong I dont listen to a ton of indie rock or whatever, but those two bands are talented, and perform their music as if it actually means something to them, in fact that their music probably means everything to them, oh yeah, and theyre fricken good too! Please punknews.org dont let idiots like this post reviews anymore!!

relay1112 (February 28, 2003)

dredg is good

score is for the review

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

this is one of the worst reviews EVER. in the history of any reviewer ever. Dredg and Glassjaw own you, you stupid bitch...and if you wanna here "At the drive-in but better" go listen to mars volta...fuck you whore
-ryan

soybomb (February 28, 2003)

Horrid,

Absolutely horrid...

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

Sheena, you suck (& you didn't even get paid for it.)

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

Seriously guys, I think we need to like temporarily discontinue reviews or something. There are so many bad reviews lately. Scott, I think I'd rather have no reviews than waste my time reading something that doesn't make sense and has incorrect information, such as The Movielife's review.

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

Sheena may well be a punk rocker, but her taste fucking sucks. How you can use the words "HWM" and "boring" in the same sentence is beyond me.

And Glassjaw rules all.

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

comic book guy says:
WORST REVIEW EVER

-the phantom-

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

in all honesty...i think that punknews.org should not post reviews like this one. It is poorly written and doesnt tell me anything about the show. What is the fucking point?
-patemo

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

hmmmm lets see....you couldn't think of who glassjaw sounds like, but then again they are unoriginal, and boring....what a genius, you sure are an idiot

i love how nobody gives respect to bands that actually do something that isnt your ordinary standard crap. you are the reason why there is no innovation in punk rock music..

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

Comment of the day award below.

-sickboi

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

This score is for this review.

Whoever wrote this review is a total fucking douchebag who is too jaded to even enjoy a good show anymore. Do everyone a favor and stick to your whiny fucking emo-indie-rock, don't shave for months on end, and shower sparingly. This way we can point you out in a crowd and beat your ass.

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

i dont get glassjaw at all. i saw them at some festival 2 years ago and hated them. i saw them on a tour with new found glory and hated them. i gave them another chance when they toured with american nightmare and hated them. the guys voice is really annoying. seeing them live is very painful. hot water music in my opinion is the only band worth really seeing on this tour. i have yet to really listen to sparta but i like atdi so i would give them a chance before dismissing them. the review wasnt to bad but name some songs they played. at least what they opened with or something.

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

This review was fine. I was at the seattle show and i probably would have said the same thing. Dredge was HORRIBLE and BORING. Hot Water Music only play for 30 fucking minutes but those 30 minutes were great. Glassjaw is the worst band i have seen live in a LONG time - god they are terrible. His vocals are so annoying and the way he was doing his "hardcore dance moves" and thanking the straight edge kids. Now they are on MTV and have a bunch of jock-rock fans. How you can you acquire a taste for pure shit like that?????

And Sparta made the whole night worthwhile. Jim's voice gets better each time i see them live and the band really sounded tight. I wouldn't say they are better than ATDI in any respect because they are much different. But they are both good bands. They played through most of Wiretap Scars and all of Austere. They didn't do an encore though because the lights came on and everyone stopped clapping. Anyways, overall it was a disspointing night for me as well. At least i learned that for sure i hate glassjaw and all their fans.

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

"gurgle gurgle gurgle" - the sound you make sucking cock

TheBouncingSoul (February 28, 2003)

if you don't watch the entire show, you shouldn't be able to write a review....fucking awful

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

I want to go to this tour, but I can not bare to see HWM open for anyone. Well, Bad Religion was ok. This score is for your assessment of HWM, moron.

-sickboi

Melvyl (February 28, 2003)

some people REALLY REALLY REALLY likes dredg.

and 99/100 doesn't.
but that one person likes them as much as 2000 persons.

sloppyblake (February 28, 2003)

hot water music is better than every band on this bill.

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

aw, why do some people hate Glassjaw? They're certainly an acquired taste, but give 'em a chance. They grow on you, and you come to realize that they really have a unique sound (ahem, something truly rare in underground music today).

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

i apoligize for the asking if the band told any jokes....but the point was that she should have described the show. plus..i have seen some bands that are really funny. so yes...i do care. -patemo

evildeadalive (February 28, 2003)

Dredg - Suck.
HWM - Rock.
Glassjaw - Suck. I can't believe they played after HWM...
Sparta - Ok. Nowhere near as good as ATDI though.
The review - Ok. Not as bad as everyone is making it out to be.

lalombriz (February 28, 2003)

well... i think i agree with whoever said that if you are sick, you should have stayed home... this review really didn't do anything for me... by telling me to go you are not giving me any reason besides that sparta blew your mind... i'll be at the columbus date, don't really have anything better to do... and i've seen hwm, i liked them (didn't know that much of their stuff)... interested in seeing what the other bands sound like live and what type of shows they do... could you please just describe a little of that next time?

maverick (February 28, 2003)

"Did they tell any jokes?"

Dude, do you really care?

-Scott

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

ok....glassjaw sounding like thrice? get your head out of your ass. this is the worst review ive ever read on this site. the show was obviously a waste of your time....so why did you even go??? Also, i dont need to know that your sick nor do i need to read your social commentary on gas prices. IF YOUR SICK...STAY HOME. Your tummy ache does not affect the bands performance. i have never read a review in a magazine or a newspaper where the reviewer says they didnt feel good so they didnt have any fun. what a waste this review is. DESCRIBE THE BANDS...WHAT SONGS DID THEY PLAY.....DID THEY TELL ANY JOKES.....come on!!!! My favorite part of the review was when you said that you knew Sparta was "going somewhere" WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU???? -patemo

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

old glassjaw is pretty good, but they're barely playing any of that live. Their new cd is pretty bad. Anyway, as far as the rest of the bands, I completely agree.

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

this is the worst show review ive ever read

Anonymous (February 28, 2003)

glassjaw is the only band on this tour that makes it worth going too.

crappy version of thrice my ass.

WussEmoRock (February 28, 2003)

I agree with you except for I have never heard of the opener. Glassjaw is terrible

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

stamos (February 28, 2003)

I would really like to see this tour, but I don't want to deal with Glassjaw. I haven't seen HWM yet, so I feel like a tool. Maybe I could go, I mean who can't use a little frat rock!

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