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Regaining Unconsciousness
2003
Fat Wreck Chords

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Published on March 25th 2003

So NOFX is now officially on Fat, and to kick it off they released an EP that is a “teaser” by anyone’s definition. 3 of the 4 songs will be on their anti-Dubya full length “The War on Errorism” due out May 6th, and the 5th track is a hilarious ad for it.

“Medio-core” is a great song, and a bit of a departure from NOFX’s standard procedure. It’s got a slow bass-driven groove with a sparse yet cool guitar part and great backing vocals, and a bit of swing in the later verses. This is interspersed with louder, more typical NOFX parts, and the song breaks into double time in the end.

A more traditional sounding “Idiots are Taking Over” has a break-neck tempo that slows down for a ska bridge. Yeah, I though they said they would never play ska again… and no, this is not reggae. I have no problem with it though, but they should have put some of Hefe’s trumpet in there, I miss it! Anyway, the song speeds up again and has some Melvin screams towards the end, but it is really nothing new or super-good, just decent. “Franco Un-American” is a good song, but it surprised me in starting out with a cliché synth part. It works in this mid-tempo poppy political song, which, ever since I first heard it, reminds me of “Quart in Session.” Also, this song doesn’t have anything to do with the company that makes Spaghetti-O’s. Sorry.

Hardcore 84 is the one song that will not be on “The War on Errorism.” It is an early 80’s style hardcore song obviously, with Eric Melvin on lead vocals, appropriately. It goes through the years 81-84 with verses I can’t understand and then a chorus that represents that year’s hardcore (that’s one guess). It’s worth a listen, but not worth buying the EP just to hear it. The last track, the ad, plays some clips from other songs off the full length, with El Hefe doing his best announcer voice over it. The concept sounds lame, but they pull it off with some funny parts like when Hefe plays a clip and Fat Mike says, “dude…that one didn’t make the record.”

So, is this EP worth getting? No. Just wait for the full length, unless you can get this real cheap or free. Just as they say of their full length at the end of the ad, “Also available for free on the internet.” Keep in mind this score is for the tracks themselves, (sort of a hypothesis on the scoring of “The War on Errorism”) not the overall worth of this teaser EP.



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    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 11:01 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    this is the kick in the head music a person needs these days

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 at 7:11 AM (EDT)
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    very average songs on this. the 5th track ad was originally a ramones idea and can be found as the last track on the animal boy (expanded) album.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 2, 2003 at 7:54 AM (EDT)
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    This is not the best thing they've ever done , especially for Franco Un-American , but this song is made for the lyrics , and they are good . For the full EP , I just think that the songs are just good , Medio Core and Hardcore 84 are songs about the history of the band , and The Idiots are Taking Over is a really goods song , lyrics and music ( Fat Mike is getting better and better for the bass , believe me i play the bass , and the intro of this song is just fuckin hard to play ) . So , I think that NOFX history is taking a new turn , it's still NOFX but the sound is cleaner ( too bad for Hardcore 84 , 'cause a fucked up sound would have been nice for this song ) , Medio Core's verses shows us another new side of NOFX : the groove one ( I didn't expected this one...)> So just wait for the full lenth , i know NOFX , it will be very good , 'cause there are many things to say about W.Bush , and Fat Mike won't miss this idiot son of an asshole's face.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 26, 2003 at 1:43 PM (EDT)
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    yeah this is only an ep so i dont take it that big and i personally dont think it was that bad. i was just wondering tho, does anyone know anything about the songs "reeko" and "glass wax".

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 at 11:07 PM (EDT)
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    what happened to actually reviewing the music, or has that just been lost in the mix? your psuedo-intrlligent sociopolitical babblings have no place in a music review. sorry for the digression. as far as the music goes: this is a stagnant, overdefined, unoriginal release. nofx needs to break away from the formulaic bullshit, and stop rerecording the same mediocrity.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 7:48 PM (EDT)
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    Ok, I'm the first who predicts it: Irak will win the war. USA will have to enter Bagdad to win, which is impossible.

    Thank you.


    whoops you goofed. :

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 7:46 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    everyone loves sarcasm in this thread.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 3, 2003 at 11:07 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Julien Bureau !!!

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 10:40 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Fuck.... great review, but this guy was unfair giving this score....

    By the way i loved this EP... I hope the entire album goes in the same line this EP is...

    NOFX!!! Please come to Bazil!!!

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 8:11 PM (EST)
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    hey america? why does everyone hate you?

    i must be missing something. I can't imagine why the last 40 years of foreign diplomacy disasters would piss people off so much that they want to end your entire country. that's crazyness, if you ask me. They MUST be crazy, all the while, the US is totally innocent.

    Solution! Kill all those who stand in your way! They do pose a threat. That much is true. Pose a threat to the wealth of a few thousand people in the US.

    Don't worry, it's too late for you now, the Carter Admin started it, and now they're trying to finish it. The protesters can't turn back time.

    If you don't like what I say, then maybe you wanna fight me? Bomb my country? That'll stop the nagging feeling in the back of your asshole. Violence is the solution to all problems, at least, that's how it works for you guys...

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 7:12 PM (EST)
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    You would have given that up a long time ago if you had a mind. Organized religion is a joke.

    Ah, that's right. I can't believe in something that gives me hope that there will be something better than this shitty place called Earth because it's simply a joke.

    I guess also learning about tolerance, love and respect is all a joke too, right?

    Please excuse me while I leave this conversation in hopes in finding someone who isn't nearly as big of a tool as you are.

    Posted by burnthegospel on 2003-03-31 19:09:29
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    maybe you're right, the right to freedom was OBTAINED on the frontlines and through bloodshed. but this freedom, what we call a democratic government, is propely MAINTAINED by the people's dissent. protesting, boycotting, and even sometimes improper civil disobedience is what keeps our current social and political system in check. one of the most important characteristic which gives birth to the presevation of democracy is the fact that the government does have to answer the people. without this, you have what you call fascism. just something to think about..

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 5:02 PM (EST)
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    religion is a joke. not just organized religion. i like black sabbath.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 4:56 PM (EST)
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    why would punks be leftist??? oh my god! holy shit!!!! punks? leftist? ahh

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 3:39 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    You would have given that up a long time ago if you had a mind. Organized religion is a joke.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 3:13 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    If NOFX is "God", I'm giving up Catholicism right now.

    Posted by Toniss on 2003-03-31 13:52:56
    My Score:

    NOFX godlike !!! they are the best and they will be till the end.. they are god...

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 1:06 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "Is this punknews.org or hippienews.org? Lots of far-left, pant-shitting trash posting on here, fuck off you silly little cunts."

    Hmmm, this is a punk site. A punk site being leftist? I can't believe it!! Never!

    Posted by CallingLondon on 2003-03-31 12:40:20
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    hey, remember when we were talking about the CD? that was awesome.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 12:33 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "Is this punknews.org or hippienews.org? Lots of far-left, pant-shitting trash posting on here, fuck off you silly little cunts."

    Best.Post.Ever.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 12:21 PM (EST)
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    just because your muslim doesn't mean you're automatically PRO-SADDAM or PRO-KILL AMERICANS...just like any other group of people there are gonna be some that give the rest bad names or reputations. don't be narrowminded

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2003-03-31 11:38:16
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    It's hippienews.org, you went to the wrong site.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 at 6:18 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Is this punknews.org or hippienews.org? Lots of far-left, pant-shitting trash posting on here, fuck off you silly little cunts.

    Posted by waste_elite on 2003-03-30 23:47:49
    My Score:

    my conclusion:

    bitch all you want, for or against, it won't change a thing. it's more fun to throw back a few pabst's and listen to husker du.

    the end.

    Posted by Le_MAD on 2003-03-30 22:35:52
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    Ok, I'm the first who predicts it: Irak will win the war. USA will have to enter Bagdad to win, which is impossible.

    Thank you.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 30, 2003 at 4:11 PM (EST)
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    http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20030327.asp

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 30, 2003 at 3:30 PM (EST)
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    "lol, the united nations. bunch of pussies who sit around debating and never get shit done. fuck that"

    From your rhetoric I gathered that you were very well educated and had read books about the UN...

    Sarcasm is beautiful.

    Posted by cawsin on 2003-03-30 13:38:52
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    lol, the united nations. bunch of pussies who sit around debating and never get shit done. fuck that

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 30, 2003 at 12:56 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    He's an idiot son of an asshole.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 30, 2003 at 12:14 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    the new war is awesome.

    wyzo

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 30, 2003 at 7:33 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    "America: a nation of noisy idiots."
    -Me, 2003

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 11:12 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    (i gave it a 5 cause i don't have it)

    hey i read that comment from the guy talkin about how fat sucks and its dead and it makes every band bad yeah blah blah blah. i disagree very much so. although its the only thing ive heard from them, i think dillinger four's situationist comedy is one of the best cds ive ever heard. i think saying fats dead is way off. the Lawrence Arms' Apathy and Exaustion is probably my favorite cd. yeah strung outs newest was a little weak compared to twisted by design. but NUFAN's newest is also another great cd. i expect the war on errorism to be very good, because thats what i usually see from nofx, and most of the other fat bands also.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 9:10 PM (EST)
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    Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez... To the post a few below this: Please don't compare this engagement to World War II. We were attacked by an enemy force. We were attacked. We were not attacked by the Iraqis in any way, shape or form. So why are we over there killing their people? Is it because Saddam is a bad man and we need to install a new government? I agree, he is, but overthrowing governments is not the job of the United States. Who made us international policeman? We have no right to do that. There's an equitable, democratic organization for that kind of thing: the United Nations. Also, you claim we're fighting this war against terrorists. How can you say that, though? It was Osama and his minions that were responsible for 9/11, not Saddam. Where's the connection? --JP

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 8:40 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    You know who rocks?

    Me.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 8:15 PM (EST)
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    "Also, most of you are fighting the war. It would be different if you were sent to fight. If a bunch of you are gonna reply with the fact about how you care about all human life, why all of a sudden now? Why aren't these protests going on in mass hordes for all the injustices provoked by the US, in the interest of the US people?"

    Uhhhh... I'm not in the Army, so what the fuck are you talking about? And I'm not "over there" and if I was, I sure as hell wouldn't be okay with planes dropping uranium shells on me... And, on a side note, you write like you have serious mental illness. You ought check it out with a doctor.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 8:10 PM (EST)
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    "As for the anarchist fucktard posting below. Go blow yourself up somewhere for your cause. If you got a problem with society, strap a bomb on yourself and explode in a nursery school filled with the future. It seems no one in the world has a problem with that type of violence."

    I never said terrorism was okay... I said that Americas reasons for war are just as bad as terrorists... You are such a tool... People protesting war worse than those who are pro-war? You are backwards... And starting a war with Iraq will only heighten the risk of such events as people blowing up nurseries (a bit melodramatic, eh, mom?)... And what the fuck is wrong with "Anarchy"? Anarchy would actually work if the people in America were as good and great as you make them out to be... You are the tool, my friend. Is the real answer to the "Iraqi delima" to drop uranium shells on their civillians? Fuck no, and if you think "all's fair in war", then your mind is too fucked up to be recognized by me... Pro-war people tend to be backwards assholes... Like you.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 6:44 PM (EST)
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    maybe the best thing to do is just make all 3rd world countries one big parking lot.
    And the countries that have dictators, just nuke them and use the land for landfill sites.
    Its amazing just how fucking backward some countries. Disease ridden, and absolutely 0 opportunity for the civilians.
    Its funny how people are ok with the idea of a guy like Saddam terrorizing his own people, you wouldn't be if he were one of his people.
    So, back to the ep.
    Good tracks and really anticipating the full length.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 6:39 PM (EST)
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    seriously, a whole bunch of you are fucking tools.
    A few things to point out. When there are natural disasters, and thousands of people get killed, either through earthquakes, hurricanes, etc...who do these 3rd world countries come to for money? The United fucking states.
    If there is a problem in the world blame the states.
    When a terrorist blows himself up in a cafe filled with innocent people its the US's fault.
    It fucking bullshit.
    The war is bullshit, but a lot of the reasons why you don't support the war are fucking worse than the reasons that support war.
    The sad fact that most of us here have it too easy. The world is not a pretty place, and it never will be.
    I just personally think that the Iraqi military should stop hiding their shit amongst civillians. Fucking fight face to face, or die trying.
    Anyways, no one is going to agree, which is exactly what the problem is in this world.
    What I really enjoy seeing is the anti-war protestors getting so riled up that they turn violent, not all, but some.
    Also, most of you are fighting the war. It would be different if you were sent to fight. If a bunch of you are gonna reply with the fact about how you care about all human life, why all of a sudden now? Why aren't these protests going on in mass hordes for all the injustices provoked by the US, in the interest of the US people?
    When the war is over, you'll still be supporting a rotten government that provides for its people off the backs of 3rd world countries.....most of you won't be complaining then.
    As for the anarchist fucktard posting below. Go blow yourself up somewhere for your cause. If you got a problem with society, strap a bomb on yourself and explode in a nursery school filled with the future. It seems no one in the world has a problem with that type of violence.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 5:39 PM (EST)
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    I think the question that should be answered is not whether Iraq is capable of attacking the United States but why Iraq and the "evil axis" countries want to attack the United States in the first hand.The United States Army has taken part over more than 30 "peace operations" since WW2, some of them could be called justified and some of them not. However the point to emphasize is that the U.S. is considering himself as the protector of the world peace which is based on the technological superiority of its weapons, missiles and bunker busters.

    We can't even vaguely predict the number of dead American soldiers or the number of civilians killed after all these operations but we can always keep in mind that diplomacy is stronger than
    violence and raw power. Do you think that any U.S. citizen in the world can consider himself in total safety after the Iraqi operation? Will the threat be really over after Saddam is captured and executed?Never...
    Is there a possibility of 1% that an Iraqi boy whose parents are killed in a bombing yesterday will not hate the United States until the end of his life or do you think it is possible for an American child whose father is killed by the Iraqi militia the other day will not blame it on the whole Iraqi nation?
    This is the "threat" that we should all pay attention!

    By the way, as the author of these lines above I'm writing you from a long distance - from Turkey, just wanted to give you an opinion about how all the stuff looks from this side of the world.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 2:31 PM (EST)
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    "We were forced into WW2, so we should wait until Iraq bombs us and we're forced into a war with them, hmm?"

    Iraq has NO Air Force to speak of, let alone any missiles that can fire half way around the world to America... Get your facts straight, dick. If the war we started with Iraq, using "self defense" and "moral grounds" as reasoning, is justified, then what about the terrorists? The next generation of them are the ones who see the absolute worst in America as their houses are bombed to hell and their country torn apart... And we ARE fighting a war on islam... I go to Anti-War rallies, and lately there have been (get this) Pro-War protesters there also. They think we need to bomb Iraq so that we wipe out muslims... Those are the types of people who support war, and I must agree with Lunk.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 1:04 PM (EST)
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    Anyone who supports the war, the troops, or that cunt bush and his fucknuckle manipulative media-dominating conflict of interest cronies can kiss my anarchist arse you fucked up fascist CUNTS! Learn to THINK for once in your pathetic, self-obsessed little lives and get off your smug pedestals before it's too late. Every invader that dies in Iraq is one less moral-less mercenary dickhead for us to deal with when the time comes. Objectively review all information before believing it (read: don't believe the bullshit they shove down your throat or I'll have to kick your teeth in for being such a spineless SHEEP). The world needs less mindless consumerist morons like you warmongering Nazis, so do me and the real people of this world a favour and end your useless cardboard-cut out lives before you can do any more damage with your ignorance. Hide behind your distorted ‘facts’ if it allows you to sleep at night, but don’t believe for a second you're fooling anyone but your conformist friends and your own atrophied brain. Regurgitate the rhetoric that your ‘leaders’ and corporate media spew out on a daily basis, but know that by doing so you are merely displaying your intrinsic lack of moral fibre and intellectual capacity.
    -lunk

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 12:28 AM (EST)
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    Anyone know if this album is limited edition? I bought the 7" and it was colored gray vinyl. Im guessing that is limited to maybe around 1000 or so.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 10:59 PM (EST)
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    guess what retard. iraq doesnt have weapons that can reach our end of the world. the whole "another 9-11" thing is pretty ignorant. (yeah callin you a retard is too, so what, im sick of this whole thing already)

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 10:43 PM (EST)
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    We were forced into WW2, so we should wait until Iraq bombs us and we're forced into a war with them, hmm? I guess you need another 9/11 for a wake up call, the last one sure didn't last long.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 10:05 PM (EST)
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    In ww2 we were forced into war and the world was rid of facism, so that was a justified war. Civilian casualties are easy to accept when they're not your own people, friends, or family. This war is unnecessary so are the casualties, that is the problem. How many times must this be explained. If it wasn't for Bush's poor diplomacy we wouldn't be here. The guy was like a "bull in a china shop". -Jay

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 8:42 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    correction:

    "aren't purposely killing civilians" in first line. My mistake.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 8:42 PM (EST)
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    "I only see a problem with it if it's not justified, and I think this war is justified."

    Death is death. Wouldn't a muslim terror strike against be "justified", since we're killing so many of them? No, it wouldn't, but by your terms it would. I dont think you'd be singing the same tune if uranium shells were being dropped on your family...


    Look, I think war is a terrible thing. We are purposley attacking civilians. Accidents happen unfortuantly, but it's all part of war. Civilian casualties happen in every war.

    It seems like everybody wants peace but nobody is willing to work for it. Sometimes when you want peace, you need to go to war (i.e. WWII for example).

    And as far as us "killing" muslims over there, that's total bullshit. We are targeting terrorists. Maybe you can't realize the differance between a muslim and a terrorist, but I can. If you want to argue that, maybe you should read about some of the atrocities going on against Americans in Saudi Arabia.

    A terrorist has zero justifiction for what they do. No matter if it happens in Palestine, Israel, Ireland or here.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 8:28 PM (EST)
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    sadam broke UN sanctions not Us sanctions, so it is the UN who should punish Iraq. And the inspectors were starting to make real progress. And its Bushs bad diplomacy that led us to this war. Would you want to give up your weapons if for three years the most powerful countrie in the world were threatening you?

    dignin

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 7:30 PM (EST)
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    "I only see a problem with it if it's not justified, and I think this war is justified."

    Death is death. Wouldn't a muslim terror strike against be "justified", since we're killing so many of them? No, it wouldn't, but by your terms it would. I dont think you'd be singing the same tune if uranium shells were being dropped on your family...

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 7:08 PM (EST)
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    and what about the "freedom" fries, those republican assholes are making us americans look like a bunch of ignorant right-wing idiotic pieces of shit in front of the whole world

    bomb texas they have oil too

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 6:48 PM (EST)
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    "Fuck people, it's WAR. Civilian casulties ARE expected. This is a low number compared to previous wars, trust me people, we could bomb Iraq back to the fucking stone age and kill 90% of those people if we wanted to."

    And you don't see a problem with that?


    I only see a problem with it if it's not justified, and I think this war is justified. (this is MY personal opinion).

    It could be a helluva lot worse with these casualites guys.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 6:31 PM (EST)
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    "Fuck people, it's WAR. Civilian casulties ARE expected. This is a low number compared to previous wars, trust me people, we could bomb Iraq back to the fucking stone age and kill 90% of those people if we wanted to."

    And you don't see a problem with that?

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 6:22 PM (EST)
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    lets review some facts
    9-11... roughly 2500 dead americans
    first gulf war... 90,000 dead iraqis.

    no wonder the world hates us. iraq and al qaeda dont even have any connections. if you are worried about anything, worry about north korea. they HAVE nuclear weapons, a 1.1 million person military and a crazy guy who hates america and starves his people running the country. do you worry about saddam coming to get you? no! he doesnt have the resources! never will. north korea is a threat, and bush says he wants to use diplomacy there.... hmmm no oil for halliburton so they'll try not to spill blood. the key to getting people to stop committing terrorism is foreign aid and helping improve people's individual lives. Bush is wasting so much money on homeland security and a slew of other "Operation: Mumbo Jumbos" that no wonder everybody hates us. we squander our resources. Spend money on foreign aid!!!! the USA ranks last in per capita foreign aid among the top 20 richest countries in the world according to the state Dept.
    oh NOFX kicks ass and the LP is going to be A fucking plus. The EP is too short and they shouldnt have that commerical with HEFE. why doesnt he sing more now? he used to sing a lot, johnny appleseed was cool

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 6:18 PM (EST)
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    NOFX good - particularly franco-unamerican. look forward to the full length release

    re: iraq war ; it's been planned since 94 - very little oil company involvement - mostly defense contractors and likudite zionists (Pearle, Wolfowitz) involved in JINSA. Read "the men of JINSA and CSA" at iraqwar.org

    The world must be cleansed of those evil guys who don't like the Gap and Starbucks and arn't fond of yehuddis.
    XXOO, Kolzig

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 5:26 PM (EST)
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    No government is a good government... France is a LOT better than America, though... For caring so much about what happened Sept. 11, 2001 (saying "9/11" is such a drab cliche), dems and repubs both are letting it be an excuse for a war for oil... Oh, by the way, to those who think this is a "moral war against Sadam", and that civil. casualties are light, did you know that we are dropping URANIUM shells on the Iraqi people, and that the number of deaths by cancer will outdo the number of death on explosion by tenfold? Humanitarian? "There will be causualties- this is war" my ass... This is a war AMERICA started... That is the excuse terrorists use, and if we are no better than the "enemy" in the causes and excuses for innocent people dying, then how are we more worthy of winning? Bush going around calling other countries "evil" is not going to make things better over here...

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 2:48 PM (EST)
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    Did anyone else get reminded of Darlington's Judy Jetson from the frist song on the NOFX EP? I don't know all the lyrics, but the songs have similar ideas, but obviously they are different types of bands and the Darlington song is about 4 years old.
    Here's a snippet I found on the web, but I don't have the full cd it's from so I can't really compare, i've just heard it a few times:
    http://mp3.interpunk.com/52267-4.mp3

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 2:20 PM (EST)
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    BTW, I wasn't the one who made the first comment. -Jay

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 2:19 PM (EST)
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    I think it's rather obvious that we could kill all of the Iraqis if we want, so I "trust" you. But I think the whole point is, since this war is argueably unecessary, the casualties are as well. It's all too easy to say, hey, this war. But if it was on American soil and we had a say in it (unlike the Iraqi people) the response wouldn't be "this is war, get over it".
    -Jay

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 2:07 PM (EST)
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    Not quite sure where you got that number where 400 civilians are dead.

    But, I must say, that's a very low number compared to previous numbers.

    Get over it. IT'S A WAR. What the fuck else would you expect? And since when did people all of a sudden start caring for the Iraqi people?

    Last time I checked, they didn't give two shits about them until 2 months ago but didn't mind Baghdad being bombed back in 98 and despite the brutality they've gone through for the past 20 years.

    Fuck people, it's WAR. Civilian casulties ARE expected. This is a low number compared to previous wars, trust me people, we could bomb Iraq back to the fucking stone age and kill 90% of those people if we wanted to.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 1:55 PM (EST)
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    9/11 was horrible, but this war is equally horrid. Almost 400 civilians are already dead, by the time it ends there will probably (hopefully not though) be more than 9/11. Anyone who thinks that 9/11 is of "greater significance" is just another ethnocentric idiot who spends too much time in America.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 12:51 PM (EST)
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    "And it's not just oil or arms. A report which was commissioned by the French Parliament and published in September last year, put the value of French exports to Iraq since United Nations sanctions were eased in 1996 at US$3.5 billion. French pharmaceutical firms, telecommunications firm Alcatel, engineering company Alstom and car-makers Peugeot and Renault have all made substantial sales in Iraq. France was also the Western country with the largest number of stands at last November's Baghdad Trade Fair."

    Why wouldn't this, like the oil trade continue once Iraq was "Democractic".

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 12:46 PM (EST)
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    the album is gonna mark the peak of nofx for the fifth time.. (whit trash, heavy petting zoo, so long and thanx for all the shoes and the decline the four previous peaks). In their mid thirties when is nofx gonna start to decline.... hopefully never.... oh yeah and a new evident political mind set will make this band strong for another twenty years..... can anyone say punk rock neil young... lol

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 12:42 PM (EST)
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    Does anyone see the money owed to the French being paid back if Saddam stays in power? The French sold them weapons and are owed money, but does anyone think he has the money to pay them back or ever will? If so, why hasen't he yet? -Jay

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 12:39 PM (EST)
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    I agree forty. There has been a lot of debate on France's reasoning for opposing the US war in Iraq. I've read many things about it and have come to a crossroads. If infact the oil is cheap, what's to say it won't be just as cheap once it's in American hands? Besides that, how come the rest of the world isn't on our side here? Don't talk about the countries with political interesting in going along with the US either. I'm sure the people who oppose this war aren't interested in oil like the French are, so what's their reasoning? It's also very possible that the French have multiple reasons for opposing war. Either way, I'm glad they're standing against Bush in this war. -Jay

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 12:10 PM (EST)
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    "together on the sand...together on the sand we walked hand in hand on the beach front, she smiled at me as she tightly held my hand, i had my fingers up her...country music played on the radio so i turned it off, we walked down to the water as she grabbed to my honker...a wave swept us away..."

    NOFX

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2003-03-28 10:49:51
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    France is not some pious nation looking out for peace. But neither is the U.S. and our long term plans are more dangerous.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 10:31 AM (EST)
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    Guy 2 below me. No one is saying the U.S. doesnt do stupid shit, we all know we helped them out by giving Saddam biological weapons. All we are saying is that France is almost as guilty, just saying they are not taking the stance they are for humanitarian purposes.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 10:01 AM (EST)
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    ska! ska! ska! bink bink bink

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 9:31 AM (EST)
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    Everyone has their reasons for opposing or agreeing with this war, face the facts.

    Some posters have said that France and Germany don't want war due to the fact that they get oil for cheap from Saddam. What exactly is cheap?

    Saying that France and Germany are helping feed Iraq's regime are foolish, they are looking out for their own interests. Since WHEN has the US done anything different but look out for their own interest.

    Also...please spare me all the bullshit about "If Americans wouldn't have fought in WW2 we'd all be speaking German"...please fuck off. The US joined BOTH World Wars LIGHT YEARS after they started. Only until someone or something lit a fire under their ass did they move (ie Pearl Harbor). Fuck they KNEW it was gonna happen and DID NOTHING to stop it. I'm sick of hearing how America makes the world a better place to live.

    Oh and America? Please tell us how you funded IRAQ by giving them weapons to fight IRAN in the 80s. Tell us how you funded the Taliban....

    Posted by yourfavoritebandsucks on 2003-03-28 08:54:07
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    France cares about two things in this war, oil and the money that Saddam owes them. Someone below said we deserved 9/11. How many people did you know who died when that happened? You say what about the people of Iraq dying by US hands? Well I am not going to debate with the majority of the people on here that are making statements because it is the way someone that is punk should answer. Anyone that says we deserved 9/11 ashould die in a firey crash. Better yet, let them watch their loved one jump out of a 100 story burning building to their death.

    Posted by orkj on 2003-03-28 08:17:42
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    well, do you know who has the current oil conections in iraq? germany and france. and who has negociated through the deal with the eventual new government? britain and USA. DIE FOR OIL SUCKERS

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 4:40 AM (EST)
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    Hey idiot thinking France is so concerned with the people of Iraq.
    Explain to me why in the fuck they are making it so difficult for humanitarian aid to reach the people of Iraq...I thought they cared?
    There's something that we all don't know with France. I'm very interested to see why they don't want to see a change of power in Iraq, they've made it quite clear that they don't care for the people of Iraq.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 4:37 AM (EST)
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    hey bonehead below me,
    France and Germany BOTH get large amounts of oil for cheap, as long as Saddam is in power.
    Thats the reason why they don't want to go to war. Thats why they wouldn't agree to use force on any of the 17 resolutions.
    France and Germany both have a vested interest in oil in Iraq...more so than the forces in there.
    Saddam does not want, nor has sold much oil to the US. Sure france didn't go to war, but thats what they are all about. They let the Germans walk right through France.
    If it wasn't for the 'dumb' americans fighting in ww2 we would all be speaking german.
    Quit pretending you live in a happy world, where if you are peacful, it surely means everyone else will be.
    Survival of the fitest. Go eat your fuckin veggies and continue protesting.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 4:07 AM (EST)
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    Hey moron 2 below. I think you need to quit reading the conservative media. Whoever said that the French only had interests in oil? I wasn't saying France has a "good" government, no one does. But the point I WAS trying to make as that, by atleast staying out of this war, France earns a couple points with me. I mean, the US gets oil from Iraq too and wouldn't France's helping Bush give them more oil? Probably, so your hypothesis doesn't make sense. And, yeah, fuck the troops. You, for the most part, have a choice about this kind of matter. If you go and you get shot that's your problem, it's a shame that someone died, but you knew what you were going there to do- start a fight.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 2:45 AM (EST)
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    I don't agree with Fat Mike 100%, but I can appreciate the fact that he is trying to get young people to vote, in a day and age where most of the people voting still think Coca Cola is a nickel... As for the EP, dude, it's like $5. Buy it and support a band, you cheap bastards. It's not half bad, although I would have liked more B-sides. Or get the new Utters CD, cus it is great.

    Out like stinky trout,

    ~ Hayato

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 2:25 AM (EST)
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    Hey dickhead, the guy a couple posts down, the one who talks about "fuck the troops". Yeah, fuck you. You are trying to tell people that France is the only ones who "have their head on their shoulders". I never thought I would say this, but you need to stop reading so much liberal media. Fuck, the only reason the French dont want to go to war is because they get sweet ass deals on oil from Saddam. The French care as much about human life as Bush does (none). See, the French know that if the U.S. takes over Iraq then they wont be able to get good oil deals anymore and they are also afraid of the U.S. finding out the things the French have done to help Saddam, such as weapons. So dont sit here and say the French are these super humanitarian people, cause they are just as guilty as the U.S. Now they are trying to block the U.N. from sending humanitarian aod to Iraq as a way of boycott. Can you find a more stupid way of boycotting then that? So fuck off and learn before you speak as a spokesman for the unlimate liberal media.

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2003-03-28 01:01:13
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    You'rE an idiot, Im drunk and you still dont make sense, go kill yourself, waste of oxygen.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 12:57 AM (EST)
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    let's get back to talking about the album, or the review of the album.
    yeah u don't agree with fat mike's politics? So what, he's not saying you have to.
    Just don't be so ignorant to think you're government that u support is good for everyone. No matter what side you like.

    Face the facts, humans suck. We're never going to get along, and we're always going to disagree.
    If its not the US blowing up country it would be another.
    If you don't like your government, don't support it. Quit working and drain the money from welfare. When you get a government in that you like, get back to work.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 12:49 AM (EST)
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    "and the halliburton thing is horrid. cheney still has business affiliations and it's so very obvious. that man frustrates me very much. i want him to go away."

    every politician has business affiliations or they wouldn't be in office.

    Everybody just needs to chill out about trivial shit like fat mike isn't punk and i'm punk and my cat has a skin rash so it's punk. Please let's get some constructive fucking criticism for once.

    -suburbanXa

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 12:49 AM (EST)
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    hey FUCKHEAD.....you're not free. The "troops" can lick my balls. It sucks that some of them may only be there because they are of a minority class. But the majority are ignorant, moronic fools just like yourself. So I guess you can lick my balls too. What the hell are they doing to "protect freedom" you stupid little fuck? They are MURDERING hundreds of innocent civilians (310 thus far) and they are just following orders without question. How is that courageous? It's just weakness. The US troops are incompetent (look at the FF casualties) and ignorant. The Iraqi troops may be half- pro Sadam and half fighting with a gun to their head, meaning Sadam will kill them if they don't. So does this war accomplish anything? No, it doesn't "protect freedom". You're about as easy to mold as play-do, who told you it was "protecting freedom? Your mommy and daddy? Fox News? George Bush? Use your own brain you foolish little man. And what's so great about US? It is flooded with obese, fast food munching, sitcom watching, racist morons who can't even read or write coherently. It's disgusting, you could give 2 shits about your environment or life in general, you only care when some terrorist attacks you.....then all of a sudden terrorism is a "big issue". America, the land of hypocrisy, ignorance, greed, and celloulite.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 at 12:29 AM (EST)
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    Support the troops!

    They're doing more for us than your sorry ass ever will.

    The scene for freedom is not in your local run-down coffee shop, its on the front lines.

    you're ignorant to forget that your right to be so insanely idiotic in your opinions came from liberty and freedom won on the battlefield.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 11:14 PM (EST)
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    I live in the "USA" and the amount of ignorance being excercised is frightening. What's with this "freedom fries" bullshit? France rocks, they don't care what your fatty, greasey, "american" foods are called. I'm not saying that the French government is anything special....but in the current situation it is the only one with it's head attached to it's shoulders. I swear if I hear another person say "the French suck" or "Support The Troops" I'm gonna go postal.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 11:00 PM (EST)
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    Iraq is so punk

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 10:36 PM (EST)
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    Hooray form Fat Mike. He's the guy who makes us have this conversation. Praise him.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 10:35 PM (EST)
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    what with the french bashin?
    that s ridiculous. the government is only tryin to make you feel like the anti war protest is because of the french. just read the real news and you ll see why the whole world is against you

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 10:32 PM (EST)
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    FAT MIKE GO GO GO lets revolution

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 10:31 PM (EST)
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    Fat Mike is only trying to get kids to vote. Nothing else.
    And he's right. Punkers who support this war on oil can suck it. I will never respect any of this pieces of shit. My brother lives in Iraq, and if he gets killes, i ll kkill like 20 americams. that s how it works, that s why you dumbasses should have respected the uno.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 10:27 PM (EST)
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    viva fat mike. This guy makes you all think about politics. He has the best fckin songwriting. Fuck olive you, just vote bush and get the fuck outta the punk rock scene, you fuckin pieces o shit morons. learn how to read between the lines. you're poor and supporting bush: that s what any FUCKIN DUMBASS would do, damit, the guy is tryin to SCREW YOU. and you dipshit ameriocans support him. hell, you DESERVED 9/11. fuck off.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 9:52 PM (EST)
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    everyone generally offers one side of the story, so that would basically mean anyone with an opinion on politics is an idiot by your standards.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 9:50 PM (EST)
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    How about watching 95% of any major news outlet to the "other side" of the story because Fat Mike is one of the only ones offering a different view. I don't know a soul would "blindly" follows Fat Mike like he's the messiah anyway, maybe it's just the losers you hang out with. You probably don't know shit about politics in the first place.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 9:22 PM (EST)
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    If people actually sit there and listen and read blindly from what Fat Mike has to say, then all I can say is that I pity them.

    Go out and learn things from yourself, not some clown who gives one side of the story.

    Posted by JOE_MOMMA on 2003-03-27 21:06:09
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    Im mom said i had something on my foot. Ssssssssssquish

    Posted by JOE_MOMMA on 2003-03-27 21:05:03
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    Happy 5th birthday. Too bads its your last. Haha governeor gjim ghodegs.

    Posted by JOE_MOMMA on 2003-03-27 21:03:13
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    I herd a bgood idea made up my mamaa told me that if we sold melmons whoosp i mean lemons we could say enjoy the taste of lemons

    Posted by JOE_MOMMA on 2003-03-27 21:02:24
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    Nofx is my favortie ska band not tska is for babbbys who lsiten to ska

    Posted by JOE_MOMMA on 2003-03-27 21:01:54
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    I elf my dinner in the flor

    Posted by JOE_MOMMA on 2003-03-27 21:01:11
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    Take off your pants and jackie

    Posted by JOE_MOMMA on 2003-03-27 21:00:41
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    My favirte sum four t one song is probbobly its not my place in the 9 to 5 world

    Posted by JOE_MOMMA on 2003-03-27 20:59:54
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    Whoosp i pooped myself im berg

    Posted by JOE_MOMMA on 2003-03-27 20:57:39
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    I have reterned to teech the kids not to listen to this gay ska music like ramnones.

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2003-03-27 19:23:56
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    I think I got a cavity just reading that.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 7:04 PM (EST)
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    I would like to add something to the ice cream debate. Has anyone tried cotton candy ice cream? Our caf has cotton candy ice cream with pop rocks in it, and it is delicious.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 6:41 PM (EST)
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    "While we hoped that popular revolt or coup would topple Saddam, neither the U.S. nor the countries of the region wished to see the breakup of the Iraqi state. We were concerned about the long-term balance of power at the head of the Gulf. Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-cold war world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the U.N.'s mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome."
    -GEORGE BUSH SR.

    MOTHERFUCKERS!

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 6:37 PM (EST)
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    300 civilians are dead, 1000 Iraqis are dead and 60 Allied soldiers are dead......half from friendly fire and accidents. Tell me who the hell wins here? This "war" has only lasted a week and already almost 1500 people are dead....probably more.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 6:36 PM (EST)
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    You guys are fucking idiots. So what if Fat Mike didn't say anything 12 years ago in the first Gulf War, maybe he wasn't so into politics as he is now. Give me one good reason why it matters. Besides, he's been writing political oriented songs since back when "So long..." came out. Atleast he is offering up an alternative to the right wing zealots we have all over tv now. I don't give a shit if his Bias is to the left, the entire history of the United States has been liberal since its inception. Because it's always been about progression and people. Fuck you, you apathetic, cynical peices of shit.
    -Jay

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 6:08 PM (EST)
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