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Taking Back Sunday / From Autumn To Ashes

Taking Back Sunday/From Autumn To Ashes: live in Washington, DClive in Washington, DC (2003)
Victory Records

Reviewer Rating: 3.5


Contributed by: viceroymonarchviceroymonarch
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Heading into the venue for this show, I noticed something strange. The show wasn't sold out. Last time TBS played this venue, it sold out. And since then, they've gotten onto MTV and the radio, so I figured this show would be a sure sellout. Oh well, it's still cool, I only payed one dollar extr.


Heading into the venue for this show, I noticed something strange. The show wasn't sold out. Last time TBS played this venue, it sold out. And since then, they've gotten onto MTV and the radio, so I figured this show would be a sure sellout. Oh well, it's still cool, I only payed one dollar extra for my advance ticket (thank god the 9:30 Club works with Tickets.com instead of Ticketmaster).

So Breaking Pangaea was the first band on. I'd seen them play before, on my college campus, and they were decent but not great. This time, they WERE great. The drummer rocked the shit out of the kit, and the bassist and guitarist jumped around like they were being attacked by tigers, but still played everything with precision and accuracy. Maybe they were just on tonight, but BP seems like the kind of band that's just better in a large club venue, with acoustics that match up with their sound and room onstage to rock out. Anyway, Breaking Pangaea has a new EP coming out in May, but they're currently selling it on tour, so if you see a show with them be sure to grab it. They played 2 songs from the EP, it was typical energetic BP style. Overall, great set.

Recover was up next. I'd heard great things about their live show. Unfortunately though, they just didn't do it for me. They opened up with "Bad Timing" which was a good choice. But right as that ended, they went into a kind of droning sound, with 3 or 4 songs in a row that all just sounded like one continuous boring song. They began to pick it up at the end though, and (despite my screams for "Sympathetic Sickness") rocked out with "My Only Cure" as a finisher. Overall, it wasn't a very good set, but I'm willing to give them another chance to impress me.

Following Recover was Long Island's own From Autumn To Ashes. Before they even started playing, these guys just looked mega-impressive. They had a big-ass black and red banner hanging behind them. All the bandmembers were in black long-sleeve silk buttondowns, except the drummer in a white tshirt and baseball cap. They coordinated the black and white guitars really well, plus the lead singer just naturally looks REALLY FUCKING SINISTER, and all in all the visual effect was really foreboding and sinister, as if Satan himself decided to play some whiny hardcore music for us. As far as the performance, FATA played all the favorites ("Reflections," "Cherry Kiss," etc) with the usual energy and screaming. The crowd responded really well, considering FATA had never played DC before. The show almost slid to a halt, though, when they did "Chloroform Perfume," which the crowd did not respond to at all. The end of their set was cut short, as the show was running a little late (more on this later). The venue was first telling FATA not to play the last song at all, but finally they agreed to let them play the first half of "Short Stories with Tragic Endings" (up to where the music dies down and the girl starts singing). Overall, really good performance from FATA, as usual.

Between sets, two interesting things happened. First of all, there was a fight in the crowd, with led to 5 or 6 people being thrown out. Dumbasses. Second of all, I had a nice little conversation with Christian McKnight, the man who basically runs the scene back on Long Island. He admitted to me that he's extorting Sportsplus (a new venue on LI) by threatening to blackball them if they put on shows for any promoters other than his company. I was going to debate him on it, but he ran back into the venue and pretended to be doing something. Final score: Elliot 1, Christian McKnight 0.

So finally Taking Back Sunday took the stage. They had some weird Chinese theme, with weird lamps and Chinese symbols hanging up. They came on and launched right into "Bike Scene" and then "Timberwolves at New Jersey" and the crowd went crazy. For those of you who haven't seen TBS live, what you get mostly is the guitarists jumping in place, the bassist just standing there, and the singer doing all sorts of mic-tossing and general theatrics. They basically played every song you'd expect them to play, and more (see set list below). At one point, they brought out a birthday cake, to celebrate the fact that it was the one-year anniversary of their album being released. Overall, they played about as well as you'd expect: If you went to the show liking TBS you would have liked them more after it, and if you went in hating TBS you would have hated them more after it.

Those of you who've been to Washington DC know that the Metro closes at midnight on weeknights. The 9:30 Club has almost always been perfect with ending shows in time to catch the last train. However, TBS just kept playing and playing, well past the scheduled end time of 11:35. Finally I decided I had to leave and miss (assuming they played it) my favorite TBS song, "You Know How I Do." Thankfully I thought to leave early, but most other kids were not so lucky, and 800 or so kids were stranded outside the Cardozo Metro stop looking for a cab or some alternate way to get home. I don't know if the blame for that belongs with the bands or the club, but someone fucked up.

Overall, good show. Breaking Pangaea and From Autumn To Ashes were awesome and I would recommend doing anything you can to see either of them live. Taking Back Sunday was rather good as well, and while Recover wasn't impressive tonight I would give them another chance.

TBS set list:
Bike Scene
Timberwolves At New Jersey
Ballad Of Sal Villaneuva
(New Song #1)
There's No I In Team
Great Romances Of The 21st Century
(New Song #2)
You're So Last Summer
(New Song #3)
Blue Channel
Ghost Man On Third
Your Own Disaster
(After this, they probably played "You Know How I Do" then finished with "Cute Without the E")

 


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Anonymous (April 3, 2003)

im not going to make an account but i just want to say that i was at that show too and it was ok....all the opening bands sucked badly but tbs was great..i was there too when they were at the 9:30 club with the starting line...that show was better but tbs performance was great both times

Anonymous (April 3, 2003)

Vaut pas dla marde !

Anonymous (April 2, 2003)

What was the line from the book, that's a real good book that I haven't read in a while

Anonymous (March 31, 2003)

Head club!!! where was head club!!!! that is one of the best songs!!!

Anonymous (March 31, 2003)

Thanks for the info. I knew there was no more bad blood, just never knew where it began. Thanks.

viceroymonarch (March 31, 2003)

The story is there is no feud anymore. When they were in highschool, John of TBS slept with Jesse (of Brand New)'s girlfriend. Brand New wrote "Seventy Times Seven" about it, then TBS wrote "No I In Team" as a response. Then they buried the hatchet. They've toured together, recorded together, etc, since the 'feud.'

Anonymous (March 31, 2003)

Anyone know the story behind the TBS and Brand New feud?

dignin (March 31, 2003)

I hope the guy two posts down is joking.

Le_MAD (March 30, 2003)

I don't know from automn to ashes, but tbs is terrible.

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

I'd just like to point out how fucking dumb FATA is: Chloroform Perfume would not work, Chloroform needs to be held against the nose (like a cloth), spraying it would be dumb. Like the band.

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

Good thing I live in NYC where trains run 24/7

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

Is it just me or was the lead singer of TBS really drunk? I don't know but Recover was really awesome.

I've TBS several times and he seemed drunk during all of them. And I thought Recover was awesome, too.

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

I find it hard to believe that taking back sunday shit on Thrice and Coheed and Cambria. Just cuz the crowd is into one band more doesnt mean they are better then them. I have seen all these bands and TBS doesnt hold a candle to either of them. Thrice and CaC just have so much better music then these bitches that it doesnt matter how much stage presence they have.

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

The singer from Taking Back Sunday spit in my friends face at a show in Erie PA last year. He then ran to the van and wouldnt confront the person he had just spit on. This dude is a true pussy.

dontspitonme,
-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

ok.. serious.. fata's lead singer is about as sinister as big bird, because everytime i see him he's smiling. sinister people DO NOT smile. he's a good guy though.

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

kill yourself! just kidding

viceroymonarch (March 30, 2003)

Sweet deal....almost 1000 reads and nobodys left a comment telling me to kill myself. I must be getting better at this.

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

FATA is not hardcore at all...

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

From Autumn To Aids sucks. They aren't sinister. They aren't even frickin' hardcore dude. You're an idiot.

Anonymous (March 30, 2003)

taking back sunday also gets negative points because they stole a line from "a heartbreaking work of staggering genius" and didnt give dave eggers credit. kinda makes sense though since everything else they do has been done before.

Anonymous (March 29, 2003)

Is it just me or was the lead singer of TBS really drunk? I don't know but Recover was really awesome.

Anonymous (March 29, 2003)

"drugs rule everything around me fiend ,take another beer ya'll"

Love Tj

viceroymonarch (March 29, 2003)

"I have downloaded songs. It isn't that I haven't had exposure to FATA (it's kind of hard not to have heard them), it's just that I think they suck."

Alright then, that's cool. I was just saying because I was under the impression that the TBS show was the first time you'd heard them.

To the dude right below this comment:
'shit on' is a good thing right? Like you're saying they were better than all those bands?

Anonymous (March 29, 2003)

TBS has shit on every band I've seen them play with that includes midtown, brand new, recover, FATA, breaking pangea, coheed and cambria(close), thrice, catch 22, reach the sky(also close), jimmyeat world, boxcar racer, the used. THe only band they dident shit on was Murphys law.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

i've never had my tires slashed but if you've ever been to emo's in Austin,TX, right by six street there are alot of homeless people there who talk some crazy shit. Just this last time i had someone come up to me and ask for money because i stole his land, and all this time i thought we bought it from a real estate person. Then another guy asking for me to buy him a 40 so he can get down with some hoes or some wacky shit like that. But the dumbest one was this one that came up and asked for a doller and was all like "just because i'm begging for money don't think i don't have a job, i'm just broke"

All in all fuck austin,texas!!!
and taking back sunday

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

This score is for Breaking Pangaea, the only band with actual musical ability on that show. Well Recover is kinda cool too.

FATA is NOT hardcore. They are generic metal-core. The "metal" riffs are so bad. Crap metal to its worse. Check out Unearth, they do the metal up right. fata sucks. Whiny singing , terrible screaming. TERRIBLE guitar riffs. Ok venting over.

growlll chuga chuga growlll chuga,
-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

And to the other dude who saw the MA show, I could understand why a person who didn't know FATA beforehand would dislike their live show. But if you're into similar kinds of hardcore emo/metal bands, I'd highly recommend picking up their album or downloading a few songs. It's the kind of music where every time to you listen to it, you appreciate something new about it.

I have downloaded songs. It isn't that I haven't had exposure to FATA (it's kind of hard not to have heard them), it's just that I think they suck.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

Eww...Taking Back Sunday. There new video fucking sucks. Nice way to piss on a GREAT movie.

I'll take my Thursday thank you very much.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

did they have buttsex onstage?

krowdsurf (March 28, 2003)

"Damn. I've been going to the 9:30 for 10 years now, since the days of the old 9:30....I drive every time and have NEVER had a problem."

I don't think it's a common thing by any means, so I wouldn't discourage anyone from driving. I drove there at least once a month for 6-7 years and didn't have a single problem. It's just that it happend twice in a short period of time so I decided to play it safe from then on. The problem is, if you arrive closer to the start time, their lot fills up and you have to park on the street. Here is where you run into the homeless people who essentially extort you for "protection" money. The first time it happend, I didn't pay the guy and when I came out my tires were slashed. The second time, I paid someone and my tires were slashed anyway. He came up to me afterwards and asked for MORE money because without his protection something "worse could have happend." I refused on principal and he said "You're stuck here. Something worse can still happen." So yeah, I paid him. My advice is, if you drive there, get there early enough to get into the fenced-in lot and bring at least $10 in case you end up on the street.

viceroymonarch (March 28, 2003)

Yeah, the 930 Club is on V st and 9th, I think. It's not really a bad area in my opinion, but it's predominantly black so people think it's a bad area.

And to the other dude who saw the MA show, I could understand why a person who didn't know FATA beforehand would dislike their live show. But if you're into similar kinds of hardcore emo/metal bands, I'd highly recommend picking up their album or downloading a few songs. It's the kind of music where every time to you listen to it, you appreciate something new about it.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

Meh and stuff.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

Where is the new 9:30 anyway? U Street? I don't remember that area being that bad when I lived there. The old 9:30 was the greatest place to see a band, just a glorious shithole with the crankiest hipper-than-thou bar staff on earth.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

I saw this show last night in MA. Breaking Pangea was good. Recover was good. TBS was good. FATA, however, sucked. I wouldn't say they are "sinister;" i think of them as lame and cliché. I wasn't too thrilled to hear their set, which seemed to be one very long 40 minute song.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

wow. you wasted money on this lineup? as for who's fault that 800 kids missed the last metro ride, don't look at anyone else but the stupid fools who didn't prepare ahead of time and didn't check the time. every time i go to 930, when 11:30 hits, i'm out of there. that must have been quite the scene. 800 white kids out in the "hood" crying and trying desperately to find a way out of there before the scary black people start robbing them. hilarious.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

Damn. I've been going to the 9:30 for 10 years now, since the days of the old 9:30....I drive every time and have NEVER had a problem.

-sickboi

krowdsurf (March 28, 2003)

I wanted to go to this show rather badly, I'm pissed off that I missed it as it sounds like it was good. That's the problem with the 9:30 Club though, if you want to stay to the very end you can't count on getting to the Metro in time, but on two occasions where I've driven, I've had my tires slashed.

maverick (March 28, 2003)

Fixed it.

-Scott

viceroymonarch (March 28, 2003)

Oops. I just realized that I didn't give a rating to this show, so it's listed as 5 stars by default. If I had realized in time, I would have given it 3.5 stars, or 7 out of 10.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

good show. i only got to see FATA and TBS but both of them put on a great show esp TBS. and if anyone wanted to know, they did sell out the electric factory and that is a decent sized place to sell out esp. since they played the troc. the last time they were in philly.

inagreendase (March 28, 2003)

yeah they were good at sports plus, decent length set that resembled the list here apparently. breaking pangea is eh and from autumn to ashes is terribly overrated, when all you do is scream the songs in incomprehensible and in turn just bad. i have to sit thru them when i see finch and a static lullaby. that would be cool if i could sell a fifth of my ticket and have someone else see them for me.

maverick (March 28, 2003)

to the anonymous guy 2 posts down:

Breaking Pangaea owns you. Watch it.

-Scott

evildeadalive (March 28, 2003)

Meh.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

I wonder if they could fit any more cliche, derivative, and trite bands onto one bill. What a horrible evening of music.

Anonymous (March 28, 2003)

whatever

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