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Lagwagon: BlazeBlaze (2003)
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Finally‚?¶ it's the new Lagwagon album. Joey has been busy with the Gimmes and Bad Astronaut the past few years, and he has come back to the ‚??wagon with a fresh outlook. Right off the bat in the first track you can hear the Bad Astronaut coming through in "Burn," with its laid-back tempo and mellow arpeggiated chords in the guitars. Other songs have similar moments, and other tracks blur the lines between slow Lagwagon and fast Bad Astronaut. But never fear old time Lagwagon fans, they always burst back into the break-neck double time beats and ultra fast riffs. These guys may be getting old, but they aren't letting up on the energy.

They give us a bit more than usual this time around: 14 tracks, the most they've put on an album since "Duh", and 41 minutes of music, which is really long considering their previous CD "Let's talk about Feelings" was a mere 25 minutes. They better give us more after waiting four years!

One of my favorites is "Billy Club," an awesome moderate tempo rocker with an Angus Cooke cello intro, and a sweet n' simple vocal melody with a slight distortion effect over it. "Burn," the opener I mentioned earlier, is another favorite. With its multiple tempo changes, it covers some less familiar ground for the band, while still touching on the recognizable hyperactive punk tempos, topped off with a metal guitar solo. "Max Says" appears to be straight-ahead classic Lagwagon with a blistering tempo and great vocal harmonies, but this track injects a little something you don't hear much from these guys with the breakdown full of meter changes that settles into 4/4 to build into the last chorus.

Joey Cape's lyrics are still top-notch, and he handles serious and not-so-serious subject matters perfectly. "Never Stops" starts with an acoustic guitar intro, and quickly bursts into a fast-paced song condemning the massive patriotism that stemmed from 9/11. "Fanatics on their knees pray for swift and just revenge / Become what they condemn / Mirror image men / Hands across America, let's catch contact hysteria" is a great one, and I love the lines "Colors of democracy / fly from every SUV / The misspelled bumper sticker's here / Where did all the honor students go?" On lighter notes, in "I Must Be Hateful" Lagwagon pays homage to Jawbreaker, one of their favorite bands, and "Falling Apart" contains funny yet telling lyrics like: "Blue hair, brown teeth / Failing livers, defeat / Maybe we will try to pull it off / For another year." Take this clue and go see Lagwagon while you can.

"Blaze" was worth the wait, but not quite up to par with "Trashed" for diversity (though Trashed is diverse in different ways, ie: metal) and not quite up to "Hoss" in terms of overall quality, those being their two classic albums. However, it does delve into some unfamiliar areas for the band, while still keeping their edge and trademark sound. It keeps the great lyrics and melodies you can expect from the band, as well as the high energy. It's a solid album worth a listen, and a must for fans since it may be their last.

 

 
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bloofy (July 14, 2007)

I retract my earlier statement and say this is my second favourite album by em after Duh. I think Trashed and Hoss are pretty overrated.

Benzilla (June 8, 2007)

the wagon yaya!

Benzilla (June 8, 2007)

really good album,theyre kind of going back to the hoss days with this one. its awesom!

thatswack (January 7, 2005)

Hot damn, Lagwagon done did it again!

bloofy (November 11, 2004)

While I do like it a lot, I prefer their earlier, faster stuff.

plutocracy (January 5, 2004)

This album didn't disappoint me. The reason was that I didn't expect this to be the greatest Lagwagon album. And it wasn't. The only really good tracks in my book are "Dance The Collapse" and "Never Stops". The rest are merely fair enough or filler. I've always prefered Lagwagon's serious lyrics before their joke lyrics. Nothing against joke songs, but combining funny and serious lyrics on the same album rarely makes for good continuity and flow. My favorite LW albums are "Trashed" and "Let's Talk About Leftovers".

Anonymous (December 31, 2003)

for what it's worth. the album has been getting better each and every time i pick it up again. here goes another week in the cd player.

Anonymous (November 12, 2003)

I feel this album is being reviewed very lightly. While not as good as trashed(the greatest punk rock album of all time), I feel this is definitely their best shit since. This album is the culmination of one of the truly great bands of our time. The songwriting is phenomenol, as the extra time they spent working on the album surely paid off. Joey Cape is at the height of his lyrical form, as he is both sincere and inspiring. He has acheived the perfect balance of meaningful personal lyrics which deal with the problems that we face everyday with intelligent social commentary that avoids much of the rhetoric that is inherent in other "political punk bands". This album will be enjoyed by me for years and years to come, Lagwagon's popularity may be passed its prime, but to me they are still the greatest. a truly honest and amazing record.

Anonymous (September 13, 2003)

Randall really is a drunk, but it's ok. He earned it. Drink it up fella. Dont forget the party hats.

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

this cd is awesome each cd gets better and better. the song writing is great and so is the guitar work there is a fucking awesome solo in almost every song. lagwagon has stayed true to their fans with this cd. i just can't wait till another album.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

hhhmmm reading all the comments below make me feel smart and well educated (I may not be any of the two )but most of you are morons.
Lagwagon made another record, thats about it. Its the only lagwagon record thats absolutley "hey guys lets make a new record cuase we have to", its kinda shallow and doesnt flow at all, eventhough most songs do stand out on their own.
In my opinion every other lagwagon record is at the same level except lets talk bout feelings and my favorite but not necesarilly the best double plaidium-.
I bouth Blaze and Im satistfied though, its entertaining, for a couple of days.
yours trully
todo tipo de gato famoso

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

Just wanted to correct the reviewer and say that they also released 14 tracks on Hoss, which as you know, came out after Duh.

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

Just buy London Calling or Self-Titled and they are way more powerful than any greatest hits CDs could be.

I'd say buy both of those AND "Give Em Enough Rope."

Anonymous (April 28, 2003)

i too wanted to change my statement that this was their worst release(though really good)., its above duh and hoss i think maybe even ltaf. just give it time, good stuff

Anonymous (April 21, 2003)

Don't buy a "greatest hits" CD of the Clash! That is so weak. Just buy London Calling or Self-Titled and they are way more powerful than any greatest hits CDs could be.

Anonymous (April 21, 2003)

REALLY?! Too bad I already own the albums.

Anonymous (April 21, 2003)

If you want a really good album go get the essential clash cd. Its good! 2 discs and 40 songs that are really good. It is worth the 20 bucks. -rancid punx

Anonymous (April 21, 2003)

yeah burn reminds me of alison's disease. They just can't seem to decide what they want to play in the song.

sickboi (April 20, 2003)

I actually own Hoss, Double Pladinum and Duh. I think maybe I'd just outgrown em. But this album has me wanting to pull them out again.

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

yea sickboi, don't miss the boat man, lagwagon are alot better than alot of people give them credit for. go download or buy hoss, most agree its their best album, and the lyrics are freakin amazing, especially to the song 'violins', best break up lyrics i know of.

oh yea, thanks to the guys who gave me the head s up on what theyre gonna play, i'm seein em on may 13, and i really hope to hear burn and e dagger. i don't know why, but i love e dagger, the whole joey's alter drunk ego randal thing is just so peculiar.(alot of people seem to not like it)

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

wow, burn is flat out just a sick song

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

I saw Lagwagon in San Diego!!!! They kicked ass....They played a good variety of songs off hoss trashed duh DP. and crappy feelings...as well as blaze. The new songs they played were: Burn, E Dagger, Dancing the Collapse, Falling Apart.

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

Rock me your pussy

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

ya braaahs rancid is soooo fucking aaaawesome bros! rancid punx 4eva!!!! yaaa!!!!

So, he likes Rancid... What's wrong with that? I like Rancid too.

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

"I Must Be Hateful" IS one of the better songs on the album. The same goes for "Dance the Collapse."

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

ya braaahs rancid is soooo fucking aaaawesome bros! rancid punx 4eva!!!! yaaa!!!!

RaNcIdPuNx (April 19, 2003)

Alright, time for a real review. I just got this CD today for a pretty low price at hastings and when i put it in my CD player i realized these guys make their music better and better with each CD. "I Must Be Hateful" i think is the best song on the CD. The lyrics to this song are great and they are sung very well. Most of the songs on this CD aer the same way, good lyrics,well sung, and fuckin awsome. It will make you happy inside and you wont regret buying this CD so go buy it and listen to it while roll around in your room, its fun trust me.

-RaNcId PuNx

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

I just got a free promo of this yesterday, I gotta take my foot outta my mouth, this is actually pretty good.

-sickboi

Heh.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

im not a huge lagwagon fan, but i just got it as well and i must say its very very good...SOLID

Mr_Pink (April 18, 2003)

I just got it too, it's very good.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

I just got a free promo of this yesterday, I gotta take my foot outta my mouth, this is actually pretty good.

-sickboi

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

I would enjoy Lagwagon more if they quit.

inagreendase (April 18, 2003)

ok, your right about the one album thing, but they were definitely including some of that 80s club-style genre into their songs. listen to "i just want to have something to do" and tell me there's no influence of that decade on it.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

i love lagwagon and this album...but its true, they use the same chord progression all the time...

joey does the same thing in bad astronaut...

thankfully, they come up with creative ways of using the same chord progression, as silly as that sounds...

change the tempo, and melody, and you have a new song to rock out to...

i dont care...

hahahah

Anonymous (April 17, 2003)

matt be gay

Anonymous (April 17, 2003)

"Falling Apart" is actually a song where Lagwagon make fun of themselves. My name be Matt and I be gay. This is why the lyrics are stupid, especially compared to the album's otherwise brilliant lyrics.

This isn't meant to be condescending, but perhaps they don't take themselves as seriously as you do. Whatever the reason, I'll agree that it doesn't mix with the other, lyrically serious songs, you hear song like this from bands such as NOFX. To be totally honest, I thought more people would enjoy this song, because the band hasn't made such a lighthearted song since Trashed, which is a favorite among fans.

But what do I know?

Anonymous (April 17, 2003)

some more comments from me. first, the lyrical content is the most political since trashed, and not nearly as emotional as double plaid and lets talk about...the music is kind of a mix of all their albums. overall its great, but i must admit, i enjoy the new bad astronaut album more. as for the rumors of blink 182/bad ass tour, i highly doubt it, being that joey told me he doubts bad ass would ever tour. however, i read in an interview that mark hoppus's favorite cd of 2002 was 'houston we have a drinking problem' so who knows?..?
cawknocker
ps. my ranking of lag albums
1.hoss
2.double plaid
3.trashed
4.blaze (altough its a toss up with trashed if you ask me)
5. lets talk about
6.duh...although even this ablum would get a 6 rating from me

Anonymous (April 17, 2003)

yes this is probably gonna be the last we hear from these guys unfortunately. joey dodges the question whenever asked so don't even bother. good review, i agree its solid, and better than their last album, but not up to hoss's standard, which i don't think anyone, including themselves, thinks they could top. its a must for any of their fans, it didnt disappoint. burn, e dagger, i must be hateful, dinner and a movie and of course never stops are all great songs, the only one i woulda left off is the boring and predictable 'dividers'. overall, it definately kicks ass and i can't wait to see em here in pittsburgh on my birthday...when i turn..shudder...23.
cawknocker

Anonymous (April 17, 2003)

"It didn't help when they practically started playing new wave songs when the 80s rolled around."

Well I kind of understood your ignorant viewpoint until you made that remark... Ramones? New Wave? Never happened sonny. Please leave talking about bands to people who actually know about the bands... AKA Not you... I believe that you have only heard Ramones Mania and are not qualified to judge them from a compilation disc...

Anonymous (April 17, 2003)

lagwagon

Anonymous (April 17, 2003)

Lagwagon is boring.

Mr_Pink (April 17, 2003)

Ramones-bashers are closet Deadhead jam band lovers.

inagreendase (April 17, 2003)

My friend Frank, a very long time ago (okay, two and a half years ago), made a very good point. I was listening to Ramones Mania in the cafeteria, mediocre as it is. I told him what I was listening to, and he just looks at me, shakes his head, and goes "The Ramones suck."

I looked at him, only slightly shocked by his outlandish comment, and went, "Well, you have to at least respect them for what they started."

Frank says "Who the fuck cares? Punk was going to tbe started sooner or later. It was inevitable. The Ramones only get their asses kissed because they were the ones who DID start it."

It's probably the most intelligent, true thing I've ever heard. This huge genre was going to open up sooner or later - so if you think the Ramones suck, you shouldn't be scared to let those feelings out.

I agree fully with sickboi. It's over ten years later, but Lagwagon sounds like they're putting the same exact chord progression in every song. Even if Double Pladinum does sound different from LTAF, you also have to remember that it can also mean that the songs sound the same on that one album itself. The Ramones were so boring. Sometimes you really do need talent so your audience isn't sleeping when you make your way to that second chord. It didn't help when they practically started playing new wave songs when the 80s rolled around.

Also, the Ramones didn't quite make "beautiful street poetry." That's like saying Blink-182 are "comedic geniuses" or NoFx are "political intellects."...without taking anything away from NoFx, of course.

M4CH1N3 (April 17, 2003)

"Falling Apart" is actually a song where Lagwagon make fun of themselves. This is why the lyrics are stupid, especially compared to the album's otherwise brilliant lyrics.

Anonymous (April 17, 2003)

I finally figured out why downloading tracks 4 months in advance is bad.
You learn to love the songs (Never Stops, Dinner and a Movie,Burn) then when the band releases the album; you find that they have tweaked the songs and not in a good way. The songs are still awesome but, they are that ever small amount not as good, as the earlier versions.

Anonymous (April 17, 2003)

from what I gather their stance on 9/11 was that it was something we all could have learned from, like the American people as a whole. But instead, we made it a commercial thing and it wasnt the kick in the ass to most people as it probably should have been.

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

"Yes, they were influential to a lot of today's bands but that is it."

Your classic

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

the twat insult is reserved for Twat guy and only twat guy, Fucker.

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

it surprises me the number of bad reviews blaze has got here.. i hope it's people who just heard it once, and didn't realize about the brilliant songwriting that's even a step ahead of LTAF, my favorite til now. Just by disecting "lullaby" you'll realize this ain't your tipyical pop-punk song, this is complex, but not losing any flow by that, but gaining force and emotion. and there are examples of this in every song. besides it's backed by great musicianship, the lyrics i haven't figured em all, cuz i'm not a native english speaker, but by what i've heard they's very deep and thoughtful. stylistically like it's been said it's basically LTAF with things added from previous albums, like the metal breakdowns and solos, and also softer parts wich are kinda Bad Astronaut influenced, all in all it includes all colors of the lagwagon palete and for me this is the reinvindication of the "fat sound" wich has been beaten down and humiliated from some time now. this is emotional and talented music.

fORMALINO

SomeoneElse (April 16, 2003)

hold on, someone said the ramones suck? who are they, and where can i kick their ass?

Mikeshitter (April 16, 2003)

You see what you started, sickboi?

Moron A: Lagwagon sucks

Moron B: Ramones suck

Moron C: You suck

Grow up, or at least back up your shit-slingin' with a convincing argument.

-Mike (Not exactly infamous, more well-known twat, who may have been the first person on this site to use it as a derogatory term. Well, it beats 'cockass')

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

Fortyminuteswest is an ugly cocksucker who bashes the Ramones.

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

"They were never good musicians and had the shittiest lyrics ever."

You have obviously never heard a Ramones record... Their lyrics were actually very complex street poetry... And their playing was top notch. They were probably the tightest band in the world at one time. I never knew that to be a great band you have to play super complex rock... The Ramones were only primitive in their day. God, will you emo kids please go away? Its one thing when your shitty crap music reviews of albums like this plague this site, but those who bash the Ramones should be banned... They weren't just "a little influential", they were TOTALLY influential. They were the first everything in punk rock, and unless you're a woefully idiotic bastard, you should know that. This score is for this guy who has about a hundred log in names but changes them evey time just to look like he has supporters, and bashes the Ramones.

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

God there are a lot of idiots these days... Fuck all of you Ramones bashers... You're all hopelessly ignorant and need to go away... Lagwagon sucks compared to them...

Mr_Pink (April 16, 2003)

Blasphemy.

hubitcherkokov (April 16, 2003)

This is a great album. And someone compared Lagwagon to The Ramones way down below and I'd have to say that sweet fucking christ that was a a ridiculous statement. I'm really not being a dick here and I'm not trying to offend (which I will to someone inevitably) but The Ramones fucking suck. They were never good musicians and had the shittiest lyrics ever. Yes, they were influential to a lot of today's bands but that is it.

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

what is their take on the "9/11" issue?

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

RaNcId PuNx IS A GENIUS!

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

no they don't

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

rancid kicks ass

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

This album is great. I mean its Lagwagon, you pretty much have to know what to expect. Its better than DP thats for sure. I was pretty excited about this album coming out because I had a feeling it would be really good and it is. Ive listened to it pretty much everyday since I got it. The song about 9/11 is really good, not nearly as cliche as most songs about that subject.

So I would say go buy this, I dont see how you could regret it. Its worth plenty of spins.

greg0rb (April 16, 2003)

To the guy a few posts down...
The chord is broken up into its separate notes, making it an arpeggio. What I was trying to convey was that notes (that make up a chord) were played individually. If you find a better way of saying that, tell me. Mellow arpegiatted ....notes... in the guitars? I guess I could have just said "mellow arpeggios in the guitars", but some people may not know that to be an arpeggio it must be notes from a chord played one at a time.
-Greg

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

I'm not a lagwagon fan. I thought trashed was a good album. But the past few I havn't gotten into. I'm rather impressed with this one and it's a good cd, go out and get it.

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

the arpeggios formed a "mellow" sounding chord

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

that would be previous...

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

i am bothered by the phrase 'mellow arpeggiated chords in the guitars'

there is no such thing. a chord by definition is multiple notes played at once. its either an arpeggio or a chord.

that being said, blaze is solid, but the last two have been a step down from preibious albums.

Anonymous (April 16, 2003)

Many Things: 1)This is a good album (that coming from a gigantic lagwagon fan)br>
2)They are in no way overrated

Cape's lyrics are some of the best lyrics you will find in punk rock, period

3)This album (though really good), is the weakest album so far, which really means nothing at all, because the other albums are ALL classics

4)The top notch musicianship of the wagon' crew is still as amazing as ever

5)Comparing Lagwagon to the ramones (same song every song) is the stupidest thing I have ever heard, every album is very different, christ someone listen to Double Plaidnum then anyother one and tell me it sounds like LTAF

6)I regret that they put falling apart on the album because its the worst song on the cd with the worst lyrics (about how they are too old to go on, its really just sad, and why use it as their single??

7) SEE LAGWAGON LIVE, it is a very fun/cool show

8)IF you think they are boring, you are close minded, this is how this type or punk should always be done, this band helped CREATE AND MOLD some of the punk scene today

9)Joey is GOD, and should be considered so

10)This album, is worth anyones money, you know how many people they have gotten into punk? it is honestly ridiculous.11)Whenever I read a wagon review, I am honesly amazing at all the comments about their past albums. It seems like there is a totally different take on everyalbum. Some people love their early stuff and dont like their new, some think they get better with ever release, some think Double Plaidnum was amazing (me included) or you think it was their worst album, everyone has a different favorite album. Which goes to show, HOW DIVERSE THIS BAND REALLY IS. I could go on for days. Bottom line, they will be missed, and you need to pickup ANY wagon album. Open your ears and Open your mind--e.c.

You should have wrote the review. And yes, Joey is GOD! ;D Seriously if I didn't know differently I'd think that I wrote this, that's how much I agree with it. Though personally, LTAF is my favorite, although Double Plaidinum is quite underrated...

Still, saying that Lagwagon doesn't change or their songs all sound the same is retarded. I think that this album was a little too much of a throwback to the old days with the guitar solos and angry songs and even some a crappy single or two, but it's still a great release form these guys. Their weakest, but again, that doesn't mean it's bad.

TahoeJeff (April 15, 2003)

Some bands dont put out an album for 5 years and they just kind of disappear. Props to the wagon for putting out another album. Sure its a little different than their other albums but if you think about it, which lagwagon albums are really the same? I remember when Double plaidinum came out thinking, "wow this is sure different than Hoss" and the same went when hoss came out. It was different than Trashed. Both albums were great and this album is no different. Ive grown up listening to these guys and at 23 its nice to here something fresh and maybe even a little surprising. Obviously every album cant be a carbon copy of Trashed but really after almost 10 years that might get a little boring...I dont want to knock anybody but pennywise is a good example of this. Dont get me wrong I like pennywise but lately I've just been bored with them. Thankyou lagwagon for the variety. Here's to putting out 7 more great albums.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

lagwagon more like fagwagon

sickboi (April 15, 2003)

It was a little off....my comparison that is...don't get me wrong, I like the Wagon, I just don't get people going apeshit. I'll shut up now...

So is Mikeshitter the same as the infamous twat?

mikeshitter (April 15, 2003)

Nice review, shame about the retarded comments, especially from Sickboi. WTF? Lagwagon have brought out album after album of quality music, all of which are clearly distinguisable from the next. How many other bands can say the same? Not the Ramones, that's for damn sure. Now fuck off and stop embarrassing yourself. Twat.

-Mike (who, for the record, likes the Ramones too)

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

I totally agree with the comment about Lagwagon's albums requiring some time...with each and every one of their releases, I have had to listen to it a couple of times before I truly saw how classic it was. This record is fantastic.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

couldnt of said it better myself

siropsycho (April 15, 2003)

i agree...i really wasn't that crazy about this album until i listened 3 or 4 times

it's one of those that doesn't seem that great and then all of a sudden it's like hey this is a pretty damn good album

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

it will grow on you burst and bloom, like every wagon release it takes a few listens

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

point is boys and girls that Lagwagon is a great band. All of their cd's are enjoyable, with great lyrics almost all of the time and with great music to back it off. While this may not be the best release, it is certainly good and worth anyones time. I recommend Trashed, Double Plaidnum, and Hoss to start off with.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

I dont think blink 182 openbed the door for midtown maybe lifetime did

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

What has Lagwagon done that Blink 182 hasn't? Well for starters they have made quality music. In fact they have made tremendously enjoyable, meaningful, and fun music. This album is no different. While Joey wrestles with such issues as 9/11, the Blink knobs are still singing about banging their moms, dogs, and little girls. In addition Lagwagon has experimented (quite successfully) with their music. Blink's shit is so repetitious its sickening. While Lagwagon stays true to their roots, Blink is opening the door for such shit as Sum41, Good Charlotte, and Midtown. Unfortonately that list could go on forever.

burstandbloom (April 15, 2003)

I am a big Lagwagon fan, but I like their past releases a lot better so far.

Maybe this will grow on me.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

their new album has only one song which i like, thats the second one "e". and thats mainly cause htey use some cute voices in the song...

Ahahaha. Cute voices are funny. I couldn't imagine this kid takes himself too seriuosly.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Bad Astronaut isn't exactly Emo. I wouldn't say so.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

I DONT THINK ITS THEIR WORST, BUT JOEY HIMSELF SAID HE WISHED HE HAD NEVER BROUGHT THAT OUT. (although i think he meant hte production style and not the music or the lyrics.)

Yeah, it was the way the guitars filled the sound on the album that he regrets. I like it, however, because it reaffrims it's uniqueness from the other albums. The music and lyrics are some of the best on that album, and I have to admit I'd like to know what it would sound like had it been produced differently.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

worst lagwagon CD yet. still not that bad. theres some cool riffs on here. nothing too great. there's like 5 good songs. that billy club song, the song about the religious kid and some others really suck to the point where you're like what the fuck??? but the first song is stellar, so is the 4th (the choruses atleast) and number 11 is cool too. these guys need to get it together, seriously. by far their worst album yet.
bad astronaut has bled straight into lagwagon, and while i like BA, joey should leave the slow emo crap away from Lagwagon. i like the picture on the back of the CD though. kapeeesh?

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

What have Lagwagon done for the punk scene exactly? (actual question, not rhetorical) Sure a lot of bands have gone out and copied them but as far as advancing the scene they've not done more than Blink 182.

siropsycho (April 15, 2003)

this is a solid album i think

there's not really one basic sound to the whole thing...it blends a lot of their styles together very well

overall i think it's one of their better albums...it shows a lot of maturity and growth as musicians

i definately think this is a step up from let's talk about feelings

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

"3)This album (though really good), is the weakest album so far, which really means nothing at all, because the other albums are ALL classics"
NO, they arent, some yes, ALL!?! NO WAY!

"8)IF you think they are boring, you are close minded, this is how this type or punk should always be done, this band helped CREATE AND MOLD some of the punk scene today"
their last albums were boring and the same, and those didnt contribute anything to the punk scene.

"9)Joey is GOD, and should be considered so"
NO, he isnt, he is just small, but funny. THE BIG BITCH is god, if at all,

"10)This album, is worth anyones money, you know how many people they have gotten into punk? it is honestly ridiculous."
NO, it isnt. What does buying the new album has to do with how many people they have gotten into punk? Right, NOTHING. this argument is honestly ridicoulous

"11)Whenever I read a wagon review, I am honesly amazing at all the comments about their past albums. It seems like there is a totally different take on everyalbum. Some people love their early stuff and dont like their new, some think they get better with ever release, some think Double Plaidnum was amazing (me included) or you think it was their worst album, everyone has a different favorite album. "
I DONT THINK ITS THEIR WORST, BUT JOEY HIMSELF SAID HE WISHED HE HAD NEVER BROUGHT THAT OUT. (although i think he meant hte production style and not the music or the lyrics.)

anyway, after 6 years, they cant bring out such an album, its so obvious they were not in the mood to put much more effort in it, i dont see any innovation or "alternative style" for which you would need an open mind, dude, i like fat wreck chords, but most of their bands if not all ae pretty the opposite of "new styles"...

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

the solos on this album are killer. the solo at the end of lullaby totally makes that song for me.

quite remininescent of propagandhi's purina hall of fame song on "todays empires, tomorrows ashes". just good fast enjoyable ripping.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

I disagree with point 6 (i think at least). Falling Apart is fucking hilarious, c'mon "who's got a smoke for the caper?" is the best line on the album.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

most like Hoss, good shit

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Many Things: 1)This is a good album (that coming from a gigantic lagwagon fan)br>2)They are in no way overratedCape's lyrics are some of the best lyrics you will find in punk rock, period3)This album (though really good), is the weakest album so far, which really means nothing at all, because the other albums are ALL classics4)The top notch musicianship of the wagon' crew is still as amazing as ever5)Comparing Lagwagon to the ramones (same song every song) is the stupidest thing I have ever heard, every album is very different, christ someone listen to Double Plaidnum then anyother one and tell me it sounds like LTAF6)I regret that they put falling apart on the album because its the worst song on the cd with the worst lyrics (about how they are too old to go on, its really just sad, and why use it as their single??7) SEE LAGWAGON LIVE, it is a very fun/cool show8)IF you think they are boring, you are close minded, this is how this type or punk should always be done, this band helped CREATE AND MOLD some of the punk scene today9)Joey is GOD, and should be considered so10)This album, is worth anyones money, you know how many people they have gotten into punk? it is honestly ridiculous.11)Whenever I read a wagon review, I am honesly amazing at all the comments about their past albums. It seems like there is a totally different take on everyalbum. Some people love their early stuff and dont like their new, some think they get better with ever release, some think Double Plaidnum was amazing (me included) or you think it was their worst album, everyone has a different favorite album. Which goes to show, HOW DIVERSE THIS BAND REALLY IS. I could go on for days. Bottom line, they will be missed, and you need to pickup ANY wagon album. Open your ears and Open your mind--e.c.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

That was supposed to be 4 stars not 2.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

to the guy who compared this album with "DUH" must be deaf, how can you do this, DUH was so much better, fromt eh musical style, more variety, some kick ass heavy parts, and just joey being more into singing with soul and heart. this is just, well lets say it, DULL, not DUH.

If this is in response to me, I compared this album to Duh because it has an abundance of guitar solos. Lagwagon hasn't had so many guitar solos since their early years. I prefer chords, but who am I to complain? This album still deserves an 8 from me for it's relentlessly catchy rythms and replay value.

Also, it might make a difference if you listened to it more for those of you who said you heard it once. But you like what you like I guess. Just chill out. This is by no means a poor/less than 3.5 stars record.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

I'm listening to Max Says right now and I must say it's awesome. :D

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Lagwagon should continue making music forever. It makes me sad that this is probably their last album...

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

This is one of the best reviews I have ever read. I agree with it too, 4 stars if perfect and this really is a great cd. Maybe my personal favorite for Lagwagon.

DonGrom

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

i love this album from start to finish it's just that good. I guess i should say that i think i love every lagwagon song in my mind they can do no wrong

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

This album is solid. Plain and simple.
No, its not duh, and no its nothing like trashed. Although there are some hints of it here and there but overall no.
It sounds like an older lagwagon.
You can hear a bit of bad astronaut in there, so thats good if you like bad astronaut.
Sorry to break the news but we're not ever going to get another trashed, or another duh. Just because we don't get another album like those, does that mean they should give it up? Don't think so.

some of the songs on here are weak but the good songs make up for it.
this album is much better than Hoss, and double plaidnum. Completely different from LTAF.
This is Lagwagon none the less. They're still putting out good music, its just different on every album.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Lagwagon=boring

--Cos

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

to the guy who compared this album with "DUH" must be deaf, how can you do this, DUH was so much better, fromt eh musical style, more variety, some kick ass heavy parts, and just joey being more into singing with soul and heart. this is just, well lets say it, DULL, not DUH.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

fucking submit button, hey punknews staff, you should put after you push submit the selection of the scores, so people dont mess it up, i hate when this happens.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

who said this album is bad "cause its not punk"? its bad cause its not as good as their previous albums, especially their first ones... you can stand the truth, well then dont, who cares...

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

"If you like so much Trashed (wich is very good)listen to it and shut the fuck up but the band won't make 10 albums that sound the same. They just change with the time, they improved their music...there's a lot more work in this album than all their others...In my opinion all the fucking lagwagon's records owe a 9/10. Lagwagon forever!"

common, you are just saying what i said, jsut ignoring that its not true for lagwagon, their last three albums, you could exchange almost every song with each other, and the albums would be the same, screw hte lyrics, when the music is the same and i have to skip the song cause it sounds the same, this way i wont pay attention to the lyrics. their music (if you want not hte lyrics) style became jsut lazy, you can close your ears and ignore it, but it wont make my statement wrong. they did not improve their music, they got stucked. and oh well "all lagwagaon's record own a 9/10 and lagwagon forever" shows that you are just a fan, thats ok, but as we all know, hardcore fans are naturally not usefull for an objective review, and i stoped to be a hrdcore fan some albums ago...

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

I agree LTAF was their best....i havet heard this yet though....kinda scared now to hear it...mixed reviews - bigjerk

degenerate (April 15, 2003)

The best record of 2003 so far? YES. Although tatu do kick ass.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

I like "Never Stops" the best, but unfortunately I like the version that came before it that's not on this album better. It's nice to have a new Lagwagon after 5 or 6 years but...I don't know, this is still sort of their weakest effort. Lagwagon reached its peak with LTAF, though this is still a good release.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Damn...did you make a review after listening only once? This album rocks. A song isn't good because it's fast. If you like so much Trashed (wich is very good)listen to it and shut the fuck up but the band won't make 10 albums that sound the same. They just change with the time, they improved their music...there's a lot more work in this album than all their others...In my opinion all the fucking lagwagon's records owe a 9/10. Lagwagon forever!

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Idiots. This CD is great. "OMG NO ITS NOT ITS NOT PUNK LOLZ!" Fucking morons.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

This CD is not bad. I really like the song that was in the fat wreck CD. I yhinkk that this CD is worth buying if it is not more than 14 bucks, if it is than just steal it and run and u will b just fine.

-RaNcId PuNx

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

sucks

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Some people expected too much. Sounds like Duh/Trashed guitar solos (which are really sick btw) worked into the harmony of Feelings. I'm not disappointed. I agree with the review for the most part, but I don't like "Max Says" as much as he does. It's a little too straight-forward.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

is the person serious below about Bad Astronaut touring with Blink 182?

I guess it would make sense, I'm pretty sure Joey wants BA to be as successful as possible, but it's gonna suck seeing them at the venues Blink has to play in (ie, huge amphetheaters).

pope_schlomo (April 15, 2003)

ok album that could probably end their legacy which i don't mind. i own all their good shit (trashed, hoss, double plaidnum) anyway. concentrate on bad astronaut cape.

Ramo

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

I've always thought of Lagwagon as a very bad version of the Ramones.

Think about it; really great lyrics and great musicians, but very redundant music. The same music for every song. Ramones did it perfectly, Lagwagon do not.

-sickboi

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

"best cd since hoss"

dude, you are on crack, stop it...

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

haha damn me, i pushed to quickly the "submit" button, so they got a 10 from me first, i got to fix taht by giving it another low rate, sorry...

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

i woul dnever think i would rate a lagwagon album this bad, cause lagwagons duh and trashed are one of my first favourite punk albums i had, and theri best work so far, also i i have seen them three times live, and i loved them and it was fun. BUT this has to stop, the last albums they released were so baaad and in no comparison to their first ones. this is the best example of a band that just continues copying the same style from song to song, and too bad its the bad part of their style, cause it gets boring after the 2 song and the music is just dull. what is wrong with them. their new album has only one song which i like, thats the second one "e". and thats mainly cause htey use some cute voices in the song...

now seriously, they rock live, seen them last year onteh deconstruction tour, but this album is a total blow, i was looking forward to it, i hoped they used the time off well and made a new innovative album and learned from their last ones, which sucked too. but they didnt, and thats why i give them the lowest score, i hope no one buys this album, cause i dont know how they will learn it else. well i am looking forward to the new down by law album, cause so far i heard, its gonna be faster again, i hoped they learned fromt heir last albums too, they were not bad, just not really what those guys are capable of doing, same for lagwagon. shame on lagwagon, even the bad astronaut's album sounds better than this album.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

i grew up listening to these guys and love all their other cds but i cant believe i waited 6 years for this album-it really sucks. i think its obvious that they are not as into the band as they used to be, it shows, id rather they had just gone out with "leftovers" than drag me along another 6 years for this shit. this album is for the poppunksters. its terrible.

inagreendase (April 15, 2003)

i was slightly disappointed w/ this disc...lagwagon is a little overrated, but still a pretty solid band.

i can't not say that they seem a little more serious on this album than the others...except for e dagger maybe.

this is a pretty decent/good album, but it won't be in my top 10 of the year list come december. nor 20, most likely.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

All the Lag's album are as good and different as each other. This one is the more complete. It's sure that it's less harder than "duh" and "trashed" but it's more melodic. I'd give a 9/10 because of "E Dagger" (worst track) and it's 15 minutes longer than feelings and there's a lot of extra stuff so it's as incredible record...

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

lagwagons cover of want is great, but thats coming from a lagwagon fan...- bigjerk

GregSka (April 15, 2003)

Hmm, someone compared this to Duh. Seeing as that album kicked so much ass, I'll consider buying this one on my next trip to the store

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Good review.....I love this album more everytime I hear it. Just like every lag album. This is the band that got me into punk and this CD definitely picks up the pace from "let's talk" which makes me very happy!

sloppyblake (April 15, 2003)

is lagwagon's cover of want by jawbreaker any good?

sloppyblake (April 15, 2003)

well i am going to be the first one to announce it on this site.

Blink 182, Bad Astronaut, Midtown, Sugar Cult, and No Knife.

Hitting a city near you in 2003. Sigh.

lieutenant (April 15, 2003)

I've haven't had the opportunity to pick this album up yet, but I will be sure to.

There's certain bands that you just cannot let go. I always found Joey Cape's lyrics to be some of the best in pop punk music, dare I say even similar to the style of Blake Schwarzenbach's (though many will disagree)..

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

.....disagreed, this isalbum is most like Hoss, in many ways. A good album for the laggers, I still put it as their secong worse though (above duh, which is really not saying much as every wagon album kicks ass). And double plaidnum and trashed are their best. But the album....

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

This band is so unbelieveably overrated.

punky (April 15, 2003)

Lets talk about feeling was way too polished, even for lagwagon.I hope that this one is not like that too.

soulbleed (April 15, 2003)

i love 'e. dagger' .. best lagwagon album since their first. worth the wait.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

great album, a really good one! there is no problem about it!

ommaddon (April 15, 2003)

Yeah. I'm a big stinkin' Lagwagon and Bad Astronaut fan. Blaze is incredible.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Best cd since HOSS hands down.

Anonymous (April 15, 2003)

Eh, it's definetely more diverse then "Lets Talk About Feelings" but I feel that Joey Cape has lost some of his punk rock edge in his writing. This release has a lot of influences that can be attributed to his other project Bad Astronaut, like the intros to a lot of the songs. Some of the songs are very very solid, such as Never Stops, and then some of the songs seem to be lacking. Overall, unfortunately, I'd have to rank this album next to last in the lagwagon rotation, right about Double Pladinum. It has good tunes, but althought the quantity went up from 25 to 41 minutes, the quality is only in about 13 of those minutes.

But, the live videos are awesome. That makes up for a lot to see them rock out May 16th at Vancouver.

irish_joo (April 15, 2003)

this is a great cd, but it has been more like 6 years since their last cd.

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