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Choke: There's A Story To This MoralThere's A Story To This Moral (2002)
Smallman Records

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Contributed by: soulbleedsoulbleed
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Choke is a blaspheming band. Their label's website describes them as 'the best punk band in Canada right now.' Well, I'll clear that one up right now - not only are Choke far from what you and I would call 'punk' candidates, but they are also not even close to being the best in -any- genre. Their mu.
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Choke is a blaspheming band. Their label's website describes them as 'the best punk band in Canada right now.' Well, I'll clear that one up right now - not only are Choke far from what you and I would call 'punk' candidates, but they are also not even close to being the best in -any- genre. Their music is stale, sappy, and boring - most of the songs on this album sound like they were thrown away from 1999's "Foreward," while the rest barely make a lasting impression on the listener, if anything at all other than an upchuck reflex.

These Canadian smartasses may not be new to the scene (this being their 3rd full album and 5th overall), but they sure do sound like it - their sound is immature, undeveloped, and worse off - just plain irritating. They sound more like a 4th-rate Get Up Kids than the revolutionaries they're labeled to be, but that's not even the worst part. They wear their influences like they were old Gap jeans from the Salvation Army, and they didn't even wash the mud stains their mentors left behind.

It's a good thing Choke don't have a real record deal - it'd be a huge waste of money to even promote these assholes. Keep these guys in Canada where they belong - along with Celine Dion. If you want to hear good post-hardcore or emo, this is definitely not the place to start.

 

 
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soulbleed (July 8, 2005)

haha, you assholes are still talking about this? get a life.

Anonymous (July 5, 2005)

Well... I agree with a lot of you guys, this review really sucks. This album isn't their best though, Foreword and Slow Fade are defintly better than this one.

Far from true, Concrete timeline, Every word and Record Stop are very good songs. And these songs alone, make this cd way better than a lot of emo and actual punk rock disks!

Soulbleed seems stuck in his tastes and unwilling to open his ears to something different. Leave him be, there's no point in wasting our time bashing an idiot....

Anonymous (May 14, 2005)

So extensive that you know how to use capitals, right?

Anonymous (April 17, 2005)

if i talked like the kid below me, i would kill myself. or better yet, i would let the entire world stone me to death. but no, since i do have a pretty extensive knowledge of the english language, that won't happen. sorry.

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

This review really suked dumass...if u dont know wat music is...don't write on it. Maybe Choke isnt that Hardcore, but just try to listen to the music, if u know what a guitar and a drum is. They know how to write a song and i think u should just kill urself

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

This review really suked dumass...if u dont know wat music is...don't write on it. Maybe Choke isnt that Hardcore, but just try to listen to the music, if u know what a guitar and a drum is. They know how to write a song and i think u should just kill urself

Anonymous (November 12, 2004)

I know Choke from their debut with "Lotion" and "Needless To Say" and their last CD is a real blast, very technical with intelligent lyrics that blows away. Just see the energy they put up in their shows to understand why they are called "the best punk band in Canada right now".

I think a band who has no big record deal that can put on more than 1000 people singing all of their songs in a show HAS to be an amazing band, don't you ?

fatbrendan (July 8, 2004)

"If you want to hear good post-hardcore or emo, this is definitely not the place to start"

you're absolutely right there. this is neither post hardcore nor emo. this is technical. get over yourself soulbleed and actually write a worthwhile review.

fatbrendan (July 8, 2004)

wow, this review couldn't be further from the truth. if you want to read a review that actually explains and gets this type of music, i suggest reading either the other review on this site, or the review featured on punkCANADA.net written by yours truly.

Anonymous (July 4, 2004)

k whoever reviewed this a fucking retard.....

its ok to think there not really good....... but you. you dont even fucking sound liek you know these guyz k......

stupid fucking prick

Anonymous (July 4, 2004)

k whoever reviewed this a fucking retard.....

its ok to think there not really good....... but you. you dont even fucking sound liek you know these guyz k......

stupid fucking prick

Anonymous (July 23, 2003)

soulbleed, u r still a joke

soulbleed (June 28, 2003)

oh and sorry for the typo on 'foreword' .. too bad that kid didnt get it right either.

soulbleed (June 28, 2003)

it is my conclusion that people are stupid and can't read. i never said choke sounded like get up kids, you idiots. i basically said the following:

this band is completely overhyped, overrated, and just not that good.

get over yourselves, stop taking shit at surface level and think before you speak. not only do i 'know more than 3 bands' you stupid ass, i have more cd's in my collection than you and all your friends combined, from all genres of music. i get paid for my opinions elsewhere (although i do it in a much more presentable manor, this website is a big joke to me since all of you are stupid fucking 13 year old dicklickers), and i really don't give a flying fuck if you think my reviews are good. shut up and get a life :)

Anonymous (April 28, 2003)

I fully agree with the last comment. This review fucking blows and soulbleed supports Clear Channel.

Forget_To_Learn (April 25, 2003)

Soulbleed you should quit life.... your reviews lick balls and your criticism just shows how much you know about music... "pfft". Choke doesn't play three chord indie songs, they do have a record deal because they "ARE" worth supporting. Also Choke are far from Assholes. I donít know where you get your sources from but I have talked to the boys on more than many occasions and they are by far some of the nicest guys I have talked to in a band. And to add to that, this band can not be compared to a band like The Get Up Kids. You have obviously only heard of like three bands and you should definitely stop talking out of your ass. Choke is a technical band that plays great music and has gained a great deal of respect from fans all over Canada and yes even the United States. They have come a long way since their first release "Give 'er" to develop an original sound that suits the band style perfectly. The new album is amazing. The music is very intricate and is something different than their previous albums. I actually just went to see these guys play 6 days ago and they rocked. The crowd was insane for them as they should be and they had everyone singing along and having a great time. To anyone who thinks this band is a bunch of "blaspheming", "stale", "boring", "immature", "undeveloped", "irritating" or anything else like that: Pull your head out of your ass and actually listen to the cd. I'm sorry Soulbleed, this cd might not be as good as N*Sync buy they are way more talented and cooler than you or any of your gay assed bands will ever be.

Anonymous (April 25, 2003)

hey tim, go fuck yourself asshole!!!

Anonymous (April 25, 2003)

HEY soulbleed, GO FUCK YOURSELF ASSHOLE!!!

Anonymous (April 25, 2003)

GO FUCK YOURSELF soulbleed!!!< b>

Anonymous (April 24, 2003)

FUCK YOURSELF soulbleed

Anonymous (April 24, 2003)

Good review even though I don't necessarily agree with it. I rarely see an album being trashed on this site

Anonymous (April 24, 2003)

this review doesn't do them justice at all. who cares if the reviewer has a different opinion ? I don't. But with a review like this, it doesn't help anyone. People who don't know the band, will still not know what the band is about and won't give it a listen.

Anonymous (April 24, 2003)

i love how he called them "assholes" and "smartasses"...almost like he knows them personally or something...or maybe the band has some really bad jokes in-between each track...i wouldn't know i haven't heard it...but i sure hope he likes his "linkin park" tattoo two weeks from now or until they release another re-mix album...asshole!

Anonymous (April 23, 2003)

good review i really love this band. but i think comparing them to the Misfits was a big mistake. sorry about the whole smoking popes hate. later

Anonymous (April 23, 2003)

what about this as far from pop as you can get record is sappy? And the last album was "fore word" not forward, but you probably dont know what a foreword is you illiterate skip the prefaces fuck.

ergh.
wyzo

Anonymous (April 23, 2003)

"their sound is immature, undeveloped, and worse off - just plain irritating. They sound more like a 4th-rate Get Up Kids"

WHAT THE FUCK? If this is what the 4th rate get up kids sound like, give me more! When did the get up kids ever rock intricate hardcore with gruff vocals, and kick ass drumming?

did you even listen to this record? Hate the record, but at least act like you hate the right band.

this is a killer fucking rocking record, and they've matured volumes over each LP.

wyzo

Anonymous (April 23, 2003)

Seriously, this review blew.

Anonymous (April 22, 2003)

HOly shit, you should be shot soulbleed!

These guys don't sound anywheres near like them Smashing Pumpkins

RACOON COON

SPIC AND SPAN SPIC

Anonymous (April 22, 2003)

best band in canada

Anonymous (April 22, 2003)

wow, this review is ludicrous... the person who wrote it should be shot....u obviously have no sense of what is good music! not only do the contrasting voices of the two singers make for an exciting and intense album, but listen to the instruments...by no means are the chords played by Choke simple or slappy...they play very technical music like not other of its genre....however, i do miss the raw punk sound of "Needless To Say", but they have real talent...your review should be void as you have no clue what your talking about...1

Anonymous (April 21, 2003)

what are you? a pissed of groupie who is upset that choke didn't answer your fanmail.. get a life and quit wasting money on recors of bands you already hate

soulbleed (April 21, 2003)

once again .. stop attacking me because you're insecure about your musical tastes. go suck yourself off listening to this if you like, and keep your opinions to yourself since by your own definition they're even more 'worthless' than mine. unF

soulbleed (April 21, 2003)

from allmusic.com:

SADCORE - Primarily an extension of alternative/independent rock, Sadcore is slow, fragile and gut-wrenching music made by and for the depressed. Themes of heartbreak, loss, and misery dominate the lyrics, and the music itself is resolutely downbeat ó the acoustic guitars that once defined '70s-era singer/songwriters certainly resurface here, but much of the music is far more dissonant and intense, conjuring much darker atmospheres and textures. Sadcore bands like American Music Club and Red House Painters channel their pain and suffering into music that is hauntingly beautiful ó the perfect soundtrack for solitary late-night listening.

evildeadalive (April 21, 2003)

I am both Canadian and glad someone gave this band a bad review. Possibly the most overrated band ever. And to the guy with the McDonald's comment, I could be wrong, but wasn't McDonald's started up by a Canadian way back when?

Anonymous (April 21, 2003)

What the hell is sadcore soulbleed, is this what your mommy sings to you before you go to sleep. I don't consider Choke to be the best band in Canada, but give them a little respect it sounds like they are the worst band. All in favour of soulbleed to never review on this site.......I........

Anonymous (April 21, 2003)

blood bros. sound nothing like the used, nothing. Besides blood bros. were around before the used.

hungryjoe (April 21, 2003)

i think the violently defensive comments posted here are a better indication of this album then the review itself.

their fan base here in canada may be small, but it is very loyal and fanatical. it seems almost every choke fan counts the band amoung their favourites (including myself). this, along with [foreword], are 2 of my favourite albums. ever.

i'd agree with the common sentiment here...differing opinions are just fine, but this review is so ridiculous it's laughable.

check the review archives, there's 3 other glowing reviews of choke - one other of this album, 2 for [foreword] (one of which i wrote a few years back).

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

"I have never heard a band from the states sound this crazy with the time changes"

Theres a ton of bands like that. The best, in my opinion , being Don Caballero. Now that stuff is crazy. They are technical gods and whats even more astonishing is the fact that theyre only a 3 piece.

wuba,
-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

yea, i bet i should. but i won't!

- soulbleed

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

What do you know? You gave Dogwood a good review.

Seriously, this review sucks ass. I've never been a big choke fan (a side effect of having to see them open for everyone when I was a kid), but this album deserves a way better review than this. You didn't review the album, you just made personal attacks on the band. They wear their influences of their sleeves? Who? Generic 3 chord indie rock? Which song?

Your reviews suck. you should stop writing.

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

everyone please shut up about the canadian , u.s bullshit. music has nothing to do with where you're born, especially not when living north america, where kids from every city end the same.

choke=good

"canadian smartasses"
"promote these assholes"

this guy seems to have a personnal agenda with these guys,
bad review, you make them sound like some typical pop punk band like NFG when they're anything but, that's why i think this review sucks

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

Creative scenes? I have never heard a band from the states sound this crazy with the time changes. (minus dillinger escape plan) DEP is the only band I can think of that has a similarity to choke, due to the time changes I don't think they sound similar. Oh yeah soulbleed, if you want to see some "creative scenes" come to canada.

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

soulbleed, one day you'll get your willy chopped off, then you can call yourself dickbleed.

Anonymous (April 20, 2003)

How dare you call them assholes?! Do you even know them personally?!

soulbleed (April 20, 2003)

i suppose i could have talked more about 'foreward' but i didn't really think it was necessary at the time. honestly, i didn't expect this many people to -care- about this.

lieutenant (April 20, 2003)

In my opinion, I believe this band's name would only be half-bad if it was "Choke!".

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

one thing though.. if their last album had the key to your ears why didn't you tell people to get that? You just bitched that they sound like getupkids (and they dont more like .moneen but thats still kind of a stretch). You called them assholes. You didn't really talk about the music. oh well. peace be with you

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

fair review than. i was just peved because i felt the band itself wasn't addressed fairly. sorry about being so short.

soulbleed (April 19, 2003)

and .. thefirstfive or whatever your name is .. this cd isn't bad because it's not punk. punk is my -least- favorite genre out of all the ones that i listen to reguarly (indie, jazz, hardcore, metal, ambient, hip-hop, jam, blues, punk, ska, sadcore, folk). and fortyminuteswest, this band had the key to my ears in their hands with their last album .. but slowing down made them backtrack 10 years in musical style (more in terms of quality), and the songs weren't even 1/4 as memorable.

soulbleed (April 19, 2003)

news flash: using weird time signatures doesn't make your music original or, better yet, good.

FortyMinutesWest (April 19, 2003)

The Blood Brothers/Used thing was an example of someone comparing a band to another band that is popular to bring the lesser known band down.

FortyMinutesWest (April 19, 2003)

Choke is far from 3 chord indie rock. Their use of jazz scales,tempo shifts, odd time signatures,and unusual riffs makes them complex. Just because this CD is slower than their previous stuff doesn't make it bad.

thefirstfive (April 19, 2003)

damn kids now i have to write a choke review so i can talk about what the album sounds like.. not just cheap shots because they dont sound like a "punk" band. they arn't punk, though they have some elements. oh well here it goes....

Melvyl (April 19, 2003)

"think if someone said the Blood Brothers sound like the Used, way off, right?"

i havn't heard choke, but if your comparasion is the same thing as the choke-suckfactor then i relaly really think they suck, because blood brothers really really sounds like the used trying to be REALLY cool and complex (and listening to way too much at the drive-in)

soulbleed (April 19, 2003)

oh and i failed to mention .. what the FUCK? 'choke is one of the most complex bands right now' .. i never knew playing 3 chord indie rock was complex. :)

soulbleed (April 19, 2003)

you're an idiot. i didn't like this record because it's the musical equivalent of shit. it had nothing to do with the fact that they're canadian - the fact that they're canadian is the reason they don't have a real distribution deal in the US (which i said was a good thing, for this is one album we really don't need leaking around here, especially in our very creative scenes). secondly, don't say this is a 'bad review' just because you like the band - say something and back it up, like for example 'why' one should disagree with me. and anyhow, it's not like i don't know anything about this band or the genre, i've been following both for years. everything i said about this album was something i have enough experience and privilege to say, but that doesn't go far with very many of you. it's not my fault this band lost all it's talent in between the 3 years it took for this record to surface. check out their last album instead of this one if you really wanna be anal

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

I am CANADIAN and the only reason why the reviewer didn't like this album is because it's from Canada. And all American's hate Canadian's now because we didn't participate in the US's stupid war. Choke is an amazing band and this review doesn't do them any justice at all. Stale and bland? Did you listen to that first song? If that's bland then every other band must huff quite a bit of nuts. I don't care if you don't like the CD. But don't be ignorant toward Canadians because we didn't want to join a war!

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

That last guy should just give up correcting his mistakes, oh well. Yeah that MovieLife review was probably the worst i have read on this site.

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

review* just incase all of analytical assholes say anything about that error because i know you will.

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

Worst review ever? Give me a fucking break. The movie life - forty hour train back to penn was the worst reviewer i have ever read anywhere. This review is pretty well written to say the least. So yeah, suck it up assholes.

FortyMinutesWest (April 19, 2003)

Scott, the review was just idiotic. Choke never has and never will sound anything like the Get Up Kids. He says they wear their influences so obviously, and yet he fails to mention any band that Choke sounds like(there aren't any). He says they're undeveloped, when Choke has one of the most complex sounds of any band around right now. I'm trying to think of an example here since you don't know Choke, think if someone said the Blood Brothers sound like the Used, way off, right?

maverick (April 19, 2003)

I deleted a post? Not that I know of...

-Scott

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

Scott you fucking asshole! How dare you delete my previous post! This review fucking sucks so much, it gives me SARS!

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

"They wear their influences like they were old Gap jeans from the Salvation Army, and they didn't even wash the mud stains their mentors left behind."

show me a band that sounded like choke before choke. i dare you.

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

you see scott, the thing is that this review doesn't even make sense. i was going to continue but seriously, what the fuck was he/she thinking? get up kids? what?!

maverick (April 19, 2003)

I've never heard Choke.

But damn, you guys just can't handle an opposing opinion, can you? The review was well-written, and straight to the point. The reviewer not only said that he didn't like the album, he said *why.* Sure, he took a potshot at Canada, but c'mon, Celine Dion? It was funny.

I commend the writer for having enough balls to write a differing opinion than the majority of this site. You guys are dicks for not even acknowledging the fact that, just maybe, it's possible that someone doesn't like Choke.

Christ.

-Scott

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

you're right about them not being as good live, especially the new stuff.
the foreword shit comes out pretty good i think.

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

see dick, your review was shit, c'mon tell us that your not 15, if your older than blush now and be ashamed of your fucking stupid ass, if you are 15 then I suggest Midtown. Midtown are right up your alley

Anonymous (April 19, 2003)

Not a bad album, and not a bad band. Yet, ive never liked them live cause thier sound is totally different and it just doesnt work out. Saying that they are the best punk band in Canada is a stretch, I wouldnt even call them the best punk band in edmonton.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

I like Choke... you a dick.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

sorry you didn't understand what this band attempted and accomplished... besides being great musicians, they work really hard and love what they do... you lose

you should probally give music a rest for a little bit!

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THIS REVIEW IS A BLASPHEMY TO THE INTEGRITY OF THIS WEBSITE.

and by the way choke are anything but smartasses or assholes, but maybe that's because im canadian too and that we're all assholes, i guess i just didn't notice........

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

Atleast Canada isn't responsible for the Backstreet Boys, McDonalds and George Bush. Fuck the US. Anyway, it seems like this album is getting quite the opposite reviews from people below, so I might check it out.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

please,please disregard everything that this reviewer has said, some people might not like the band but it certainly won't be because of bad musicianship. I'll agree some people just don't get this band, but seriously they are amazing.
foreword, is their best
and this one is only slightly less good.

this was honestly the worst review i have seen on this website.

by far......

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

Exactly WHAT cd were you listening to when you made this review?

Because you clearly aren't talking about this great cd.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

WOW you are a complete fucking retard. Maybe learn a thing or two about music before reviewing anything. Choke is one the best bands around today period. The time changes, chords and overall unstructured chaos is beautiful.

And I live in the US and Canada is a much cooler country. Everything about it is great. From free health care to the kids at shows (much nicer and less eliteist attitudes). Seriously you should go listen to more slipknot, SOULBLEED BLAHGHRRRGGGG!

waitandbleed,
-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

Whoa, whoa whoa! Choke rules and you know it, so quit lying to yourself.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(Speaking of Choke, this cookie is gonna make me gag)

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

I think the comments on this page provide a much better review than the moron who wrote the it. It's fine if you don't like Choke, but insulting Canada is totally not necessary. I'm glad I don't stereotype, or maybe I'd base all my opinions of Americans on this immature reviewer, but that would just make me as bad as him. Oh, and Choke are incredible.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

Are you fucking kidding me? Not only is this Cd absolutley phenominal but the band as a whole is amazing. Choke has been making great music like this long before any shitty emo band came along and made it mainstream. Your review was terrible.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

This review actually pretty funny if you imagine Wesley Willis reading it--add in more "whup a camel's ass" and "eat a dog's dick with Frank's Red Hot Sauce" for the full effect.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

id like to see you get a band together and even cover a song from this album

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

Who are the people that run this site? This wasn't even a review and it was mostly just about bashing Canada... why would the administrators let this guy post this crap

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

Geez, all you Canadians need to learn how to take a joke. When people make fun of California, I laugh, because a lot of it is true.
I, for one, thought the Celine Dion comment was funny.

FortyMinutesWest (April 18, 2003)

This album was every bit as good as their other stuff, it was just slower.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

the canadian comments were definitely not necessary. the states offers just as crappy acts as celine dion. i thought this album was ok.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

Review = 0/10
Pure racism against Canada...

CD = 4/10
This cd doesn't have the Choke sound, wich is quite disapointing. Choke sound is unique, and I love it! But this album is plain boring.

aubin (April 18, 2003)

Do you guys remember the Simpsons episode where Homer had a little card that said: "Always do the opposite of what Bart says"

Think of that while you're reading this.

Mr_Pink (April 18, 2003)

I didn't know a thing about this band before the review, and after reading it, I still don't.

FortyMinutesWest (April 18, 2003)

Worst review ever, Choke is one of the best bands in any genre.

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

that's a really bad review indeed

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

Mr. Reviewer: You are a ballgagger

JL

Anonymous (April 18, 2003)

terrible review. That Canadian comment basically just stated that your 15 years old. Next time review the album and don't waste our time.

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