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NOFX: The War on ErrorismThe War on Errorism (2003)
Fat Wreck Chords

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I can sum up this record in three words: sounds like NOFX. It has elements of pop, hardcore, street punk, and yes, they even threw in some ska. There are some politically motivated lyrics,(Franco Un-American, Idiots are Taking Over) some stuff that's pure kitsch (She's Nubs, Whoops, I OD'd) and a fe.
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I can sum up this record in three words: sounds like NOFX. It has elements of pop, hardcore, street punk, and yes, they even threw in some ska. There are some politically motivated lyrics,(Franco Un-American, Idiots are Taking Over) some stuff that's pure kitsch (She's Nubs, Whoops, I OD'd) and a few more "hey look at us, we're NOFX" songs along the lines of Theme From a NOFX Album (Mattersville, 13 stitches). It has clever cover art, that being the American flag with a charicature of good ol' Dubya made up to look like a clown. At 14 songs in around 30 minutes, it follows all the rules for a good punk rock album. There were highlights and a few low points; let's tackle the highlights first.

Fat Mike's lyrics are even more honest and inspired than ever on this record. Whether he's addresing his political views, big business, or just getting old, he delivers with an excellent blend of wit, truth, and sarcasm. A few times, he even sacrifices the rhyme scheme and meter of the song to make sure he gets in everything he wanted to say (check out the chorus of "Franco Un-American".) It's nice to see a band that actually gives a shit about the subject matter of their songs.

It's also nice to see, amongst all the politics and angst, that the guys have not lost their sense of humor. "She's Nubs" is hilarious, similar in many ways to "Monosyllabic Girl" from So Long and Thanks for All the Shoes. "Mattersville" also falls prominently into the humor category. In this song, Fat Mike fantasizes about a gated community for aging punks... it sounds lame, but once again NOFX successfuly makes a sub-par idea worth your while.

Finally, the music. The hardcore songs on this record are slightly edgier and less harmonious than on previous releases. There are a lot of new sounds here, like a saxophone intro on one of the ska tunes, an Ozzy-inspired synth part in the middle of "The Irrationality of Ratonality," as well as a few songs that rely on synthesizers to carry the melody, like "Franco Un-American" "Mattersville" and "Medio-core."

Now for the bad news.

A bad thing starts to happen to bands after they are together for so long. Be it laziness, lack of creativity, or general lack of interest, most bands tend to stop developing at some point and start releasing what is basically the same record over and over again. Think Aerosmith, and you'll know what I'm talking about. NOFX has fallen into a similar groove. Starting with Pump Up the Valuum, you can basically listen to the rest of the NOFX catalogue and it would be difficult to tell where one release ends and the next begins. I would dare say that NOFX has become sterile. Not that the music is bad; on the contrary, I quite enjoyed the record. However, I was never surprised with what came next.

While it's true that Mike's lyrics are coming more from the heart these days, it seems that the subject matter is getting a little played out. We all know that he hates the president, and the ways of the world, and other bands, and we're also well aware of the fact that he is, indeed, Fat Mike, and that his band is more successful than yours. Sometimes he sounds a little silly repeating himself ad nauseaum about the same things. After the launch of punkvoter.com, the hype in all the Fatwreck e-mails and newsleters, andthe slew of anti-government propaganda being issued from the Fat camp these days, I expected something a little less trite. I was looking for a full on, angry protest album, and what I got was half of a lighthearted of a NOFX album, half Fat Mike proving to the masses that his political lyrics don't stand up to those of Propagandhi, Good Riddance, or Anti-Flag.

Also, they started playing ska again. What up with that? Fucking hypocrites. :)

In all, a good record, definitely worth your $10. It comes with an enhanced CD and a poster, and if you pre-order it from Fat, you get entered into a drawing to win one of six extremely limited edition 7" records. The music is good, but not great like "Punk in Drublic" or "Valuum." Even without being an instant classic, it is definitely worth a listen to anyone who has ever enjoyed a NOFX record in the past.

 

 
People who liked this also liked:
NOFX - The DeclineNOFX - Punk In DrublicNOFX - So Long and Thanks for All theNOFX - Pump Up The ValuumRancid - ... And Out Come The WolvesOperation Ivy - Operation IvyAgainst Me! - is Reinventing Axl RoseNOFX - White Trash, Two Heebs and a BeanThe Lawrence Arms - Oh! Calcutta!Descendents - Milo Goes To College

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Luthar (February 15, 2014)

This album is a masterpiece. So many great punk riffs, guitar leads and melodies throughout with plenty of variation. It's their best one for me.

nocontrol (February 11, 2013)

this is the best NOFX album.

majorthreat (October 29, 2011)

This has to be their worst album ever

BigP (January 5, 2009)

My friends don't like it. I fucking love(d) it. I just can't get into NOFX anymore

Cpk (December 28, 2007)

i dont like this band much but i see how u can like them from this cd i dont no if ill ever get in to them as much...

iseeingreen13 (August 23, 2007)

First off, this album has some amazing music. I think that is hard to deny. Hefe and Melvin's guitar harmonies are intense as ever. As for similarity to older albums? i have read some reviews on Punk and drublic and how it is NOFX' greatest release, and then i hear these reviews saying its the fucking same as punk and drublic and pump up the valuum. why was it good then and not now? well for me it still is good. if nofx went changing their style and experimenting with crazy shit, i probably wouldn't listen to them. their speed and precision blow my mind. smellys drums and fat mikes bass lines are driving as ever and it smashes the message home.
the second thing is,
you guys are saying that their lyrics are too political. yet, you go and fucking say that you love anti-flag. punk is about making a difference in the world and letting all you ignorant suburban white kids know that your safe little community is really all you have right now. you have to know that the world is in kinda rough shape, so why don't we make it better. any NOFX' lyrics have aways had political views, althoguh not as straight forward as this one. maybe they're are listening to some propagandhi :) which everyone could do.
by the way propagandhi is about 567993839x smarter and more politcaly aware than anti-flag. propagandhi would kick anti-flags ass.

this cd is sick.
buy it.

i'm out.

There_are_peas (June 15, 2007)

Never a good thing to go TOO political...(anti-flag do pretty much suck, but then so does much of what's on fat).
Some pretty good songs here, but nothing that compared to the likes of white trash or punk in drublic...worth buying all the same.
and most of the music mentioned in 'we got two jealous agains' is stuff worth checking out. Jealous again is damn good

Sedrick (March 11, 2007)

That's the better album that a punk group can made !

SedRicK

assgoblin (January 15, 2007)

a few good songs, many lack luster songs

Anonymous (May 25, 2006)

Very boring. The first four songs are great and "We Got Two Jealous Agains" has nice lyrics but everything else is so painfully generic it hurts to listen to. The new album is better.

Anonymous (April 12, 2006)

Really sad album....Just dont know how you people can tolerate the moronic lyrics here...

Mike sounds more like an idiot than a serious political activist...
I recommend Punk In Drublic...

rylo6 (March 27, 2006)

beautiful cd, one of the few cds taht i can listen straight through to every song

Anonymous (February 27, 2006)

Hmmm... klonny

The opening track is The Separation of Church and Skate, so technically I mentioned it.

FuckYouOiOiOi (January 22, 2006)

i think regaining unconsiousness is the best song on this album.

cause swimming alone at sea, is not the kind of freedom that you actually want

fucking awesome.

klonny (January 22, 2006)

Dude, how could you not mention Seperation of Church and Skate? That's one of the best songs I've ever heard.

With that said, the rest of NOFX hasn't really caught me yet.

Anonymous (December 27, 2005)

Almost everyone here sucks. There's the people who think NOFX are gods and the ones who hate them till death. Both of you can kiss my ass. Really, it's not a good album, and it's not a bad album. You don't like NOFX? Fair enough, don't listen to them but don't go whining about it all the fucking day. You love NOFX? Fair enough but you don't have to be sucking their dicks every day. This album had some great songs, like the opening track and she's nubs for example. But this album lacks a lot of good songs, half of it is not good enough to be in a good album. I only agree with that guy who said "3 stars, some great songs but that's all". That's a way to state an opinion.

Anonymous (November 29, 2005)

This is getting old. NOFX has always been a really shitty band. NOFX, MXPX, NUFAN, and others are all the same bands shitting out the same shitty albums every shitty 2-3 years. I can only hope that this is their last record..ever.

Anonymous (November 6, 2005)

i hate fat mike. on this album he comes across as a 12-year-old who has just discovered that the government isn't always right about everything. "vegetarian mumbo jumbo" to "i'm eating vegetation cuz of fast food nation". oh well better late than never.

Anonymous (October 19, 2005)

This album is great all the way through!!! The best album i've heard in AGES! Also has introduced me (just 17) to a lot of new punk bands thanks to "13 stiches" and "wer got two jealous agains" Every song on this album reaches at least an 8. AWESOME! Hope the next one is as good!

Anonymous (October 11, 2005)

why are people who do not like NOFX on this page???????

Poison_Operation (August 6, 2005)

This CD was the shit when I first bought it, because it was my first NOFX CD and I hadn't heard much from their earlier albums. Then I started to get into their older stuff, and found that their earlier albums were better. It's a good CD that "sounds like NOFX" (to quote the reviewer). I just prefer their older stuff.

And my favorite NOFX full-length is "So Long and Thanks for All the Shoes," if anyone really gives a fuck (I know I probably wouldn't).

--Steve--

Anonymous (July 6, 2005)

I can't say I don't like this album because I do. It's not as good as their other albums but hey!...People get old.NOFX is my most favorite band of all time. Hell I'm just some stupid 8'th grader but I know when there's some good punk.This album gets a four for NOFX lying about not playing ska anymore.
-Vaughan
p.s. listen to White Trash Two Heebs and
a bean!!!

Anonymous (June 15, 2005)

a few pretty good songs, but since when has nofx become so political in all of their songs? just not the same...

Anonymous (February 25, 2005)

Best Punk Album In the Past 10 Years

thatswack (January 7, 2005)

Fuckin rockin album. The diversity is also good.

Anonymous (January 3, 2005)

I can't believe all of you. First of all to right all wrongs almost all punk-rockers, punks or anyone else with half a brain that listens to good music like this knows that all the stuff NOFX said is all true. But then again if you're a close-minded bastard, like lots of people who reviewed, then you can say that "oh, well, NOFX shouldn't be spouting false political claims." Just so you all know any respectful punk-rocker should have enough depth to actually realize that maybe, just maybe, they were right and Bush really is an asshole. Then again this whole cd isn't all about Bush. It's about the awful things going on in the US that really needs to be known. They're spreading their message which is their right. Let them do whatever the fuck they want, cuz they're right. And they are NOT republican. And saying that this album is boring being just about politics, well then you obviously didn't listen, cuz lots of songs were an intelligent form (sorta') of NOFX being rebles. It rocked, and you all sucked. And I'm not going to respond to anything you try to yell at me for, so don't bother. I don't give a fuck. And if you're going to insult them or the people who reviewed this, at least make it half-english PLEASE!!! Come on, we've slaughtered this langugae enough, after all, The Idoits ARE Taking Over.

Anonymous (January 3, 2005)

I can't believe all of you. First of all to right all wrongs almost all punk-rockers, punks or anyone else with half a brain that listens to good music like this knows that all the stuff NOFX said is all true. But then again if you're a close-minded bastard, like lots of people who reviewed, then you can say that "oh, well, NOFX shouldn't be spouting false political claims." Just so you all know any respectful punk-rocker should have enough depth to actually realize that maybe, just maybe, they were right and Bush really is an asshole. Then again this whole cd isn't all about Bush. It's about the awful things going on in the US that really needs to be known. They're spreading their message which is their right. Let htme do whatever the fuck they want, cuz they're right. And they are NOT republican. And saying that this album is boring being just about politics, well then you obviously didn't listen, cuz lots of songs were an intelligent form (sorta') of NOFX being rebles. It rocked, and you all sucked. And I'm not going to respond to anything you try to yell at me for, so don't bother. I don't give a fuck. And if you're going to insult htem or the people who reviewed this, at least make it half-english PLEASE!!! Come on, we've laughtered this langugae enough, after all, The Idoits ARE Taking Over.

Anonymous (October 27, 2004)

This was a good cd not their best but whatever it had classic nofx styles and new shit. Everyone is saying nubs is a funny song which it is but i haven't read anything about the fact that it is based on a actual punker chick that goes to there shows theres a picture of her sitting on fattie's shoulders on their website no arms or legs and she is actually kind of hot. Anyways stop bitching about it being the same shit if you want different listen to some mindless self indulgence. If you want good punk instead of this scared to say anything bad about anyone except your ex mtv g rated bullshit listen to this album or any other nofx album including heavy petting zoo!!!

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I've been a huge NOFX fan for about the last 7 years. Apparently contrary to popular belief, this is definitely their best. Not only is the variety at it's best, but the lyrics and musicianship are somehow still improving. "Whoops I Od'd" is unlike any NOFX I've ever heard, with funny yet thought-provoking lyrics, while "Idiots Are Taking Over" is thought-provoking yet funny. People who criticize this album for being "all about George Bush" are not in touch with reality. There are three out of fifteen songs that point at least some hostility towards Bush or his policies 1) Franco Unamerican 2) American Errorist and 3) Re-gaining Unconsciousness. But come on, even if that were a valid argument, NOFX have always had political awareness--The Decline didn't write itself. So what I'm saying is that this album rocks, and so does every single song on it. Well, maybe not Decomposeur. That song's not very good. But the rest are.

Anonymous (July 21, 2004)

sense when is it not punk to care about that kinda shit?

Anonymous (July 3, 2004)

The title for this album was a mistake. It should have been 13 or 14 songs that weren't good enough to go on our other album 45 or 46 songs that weren't good enough to go on our other records. Since when does Hippie=Punk, global warming,animal rights, bla bla bla.

Anonymous (July 3, 2004)

poop

Anonymous (May 30, 2004)

This is the first NOFX album I've listened to, And I was very impressed. better than what i expected from a 20 year old band.

crizack (May 14, 2004)

i enjoy comedy, especially songs about limb-less girls that go to punk rock shows.

i don't know why, but i can't hate nofx. it is as if i were born with the gene that forces me to enjoy it.

martini89 (May 13, 2004)

this cd was really great, if ur really into nofx or jus liked this cd check out heavy petting zoo. Rock Against Bush! ! ! ! !

Anonymous (March 29, 2004)

You're all asses -- donkeys. Before you write a review to criticize somebody more talented than you, revise your work and use spell-check you stupid, stupid people. If you like this album, then please disregard; but use proper English.

Anonymous (March 29, 2004)

all of you have no life... this score is for you guys, i hope you all die

plutocracy (March 22, 2004)

Yeah, there are two different kinds of people. Those who try to be cool by complaining about bands not being innovative, and those who try to be cool by complaining about bands not staying true to their sound. I'm usually one of the latter.

NOFX themselves try to be both kinds, ending up as total hypocrites. "We play punk rock." "We play ska". "We don't play ska anymore." "We play ska. So what?"

threechordsandthetruth (March 2, 2004)

People bitch about bands not changing their sound ever (Bad Religion, NOFX). People bitch about bands changing their sound (Saves The Day, AFI). ever hear of catch-22?

Anonymous (February 26, 2004)

10 dollar?! Here is it 20 euro, that 20 dollar:S

prettyvague (February 18, 2004)

not sure bout the ska bits, bt still a pretty quality album. better than the other crap i buy. cut out the ska, and the pop bits and u got some quality stuff

Anonymous (February 17, 2004)

This album Rules, I can't wait for the Rock Against Bush tour to begin...

Anonymous (February 6, 2004)

This record really is great.

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

"Awesome, awesome record."

I agree.

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

Awesome, awesome record.

Anonymous (February 2, 2004)

NOFX Blows, their political views are the biggest bullshit views i have ever seen, and the world derserves to take a crap on them and this gay CD

Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

"your an idiot. Enough said."

you'RE an idiot. Enough said.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

worst nofx release. end.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

"NOFX's political lyrics dont stand up to anti-flags!?! anti-flag is possibly the most uneducated band in punk rock. dont ever review anything again, please"

your an idiot. Enough said.

Anonymous (January 22, 2004)

this record rocks? tell me how they suck? tell me how their millionaires? you pussys are just like blah blah they wreck punk well sit on it and grow the fuck up nothings punk anymore

Anonymous (January 17, 2004)

worst record since ever.

Anonymous (January 17, 2004)

i agree, this album is bullshit

Anonymous (January 17, 2004)

this band fucking sucks.

Anonymous (December 26, 2003)

Great album. Very like Nofx. That motherfucker whose pissing on them because they (might) do it for the money. That asshole must shut his fucking mounth. Ever see Linkin Park? That are miljonair guys. If you don't like the album by that reason, FUCK OFF/

Anonymous (December 24, 2003)

Great album.

Anonymous (December 23, 2003)

they sux as usually. fake punk and good business men.(who wants to be a millionaire ?)

Anonymous (December 22, 2003)

i have to disagree, bands like anti-flag, propagandhi and good riddance wield much stronger political messages than nofx

Anonymous (December 17, 2003)

If you eat a whole bottle of cinnamon, it makes your semen taste better.

notfeelingcreative (December 9, 2003)

Worst NOFX album ever!

Anonymous (November 11, 2003)

you think nofx is republican? did you really say that? i hope you are joking

Anonymous (November 9, 2003)

punk rock and republicans don't mix

Anonymous (November 5, 2003)

"nofx should stop copying blink 182 geeze when are these guys gonna learn"

you're a moron. i hope you're joking. if not, then i hope you die a painful death

plutocracy (October 27, 2003)

Yeah, because Blink 182 was started 10 years before NOFX and they re-invented melodic punk rock and NOFX are just ripping them off those bastards. Or was that the other way around.

Anonymous (October 25, 2003)

nofx should stop copying blink 182 geeze when are these guys gonna learn

Anonymous (October 23, 2003)

Thanks for lesson on voting, buddy. I don't know why people are so up in arms about NOFX having political songs. Seriously. They've always had political songs.

But, this is a good album.

Anonymous (October 20, 2003)

Someone has more time on their hands than me.

-BSD

Anonymous (October 19, 2003)

This album is probably their worst ever. C'mon NOFX serious and political? Gimme a break. I'm sure Tesco Vee has political beliefs too, but did he feel the need to shove them down my throat using his Meatmen? I now kinda feel like I do when watching a Sean Penn movie. Geez, he's a great actor and everything, but he certainly is an idiot when it comes to politics. The worst part is that NOFX is just plain wrong and giving out blatantly false political analysis.

As a political scientist myself, let me assure you that the U.S. is a republic, not a democracy and we elect representatives to govern. In the case of our president, we elect them not by popular vote, but with representatives who vote at an electoral college. Al Gore received more popular votes, but did not get more electoral votes. This has happened before and will continue to happen as long as there is an electoral college. The Electoral College has been in place since the constitution was written and the Republican Party did not even exist at that time. If the close election had been decided by a flip of a coin instead, I’m sure NOFX (and whoever fed them this whacked out liberal conspiracy stuff) would be claiming that evil republicans must run the mint and improperly weighted the quarter to make Bush win.

That said, the Supreme Court ruling that basically threw out votes from a county in Florida, which eventually gave Bush all the electoral votes for that state (it's winner takes all and always has been) had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the county was largely Democratic. It had to do with previous court rulings and election laws that tried to stem the widespread voter fraud once prevalent throughout America.

Basically, every state can count its votes how it likes, as long as it follows some federal guidelines of accuracy and integrity. However, if one county within that state counts its votes different from another county in the same state, then it becomes a problem because each vote in the state is not being counted the same way. Thus if one method of counting is 99% accurate and another method is only 75% accurate then the whole basis of our voting system has been corrupted because “one man, one vote” does not hold if my vote has a 25% chance of being thrown out (if everyone’s did then it would be seen as fair and egalitarian). This is precisely how the mob ran Cook county politics (I’m not trying to pick on Chicago, rather just citing a specific example) and thus could swing state and even presidential elections by winning that state's electors through manipulation of just one large populated county (it is widely speculated that JFK's election was due precisely to this illegal practice).

Therefore, the Supreme Court in 2000 had to decide which way of counting in Florida was legitimate and to throw out the ballots from the counties that did not do it the most accurate or most widely accepted way. The only reason this became an issue is that the race was so incredibly close that this issue could decide it. It may seem that you could just establish the accuracy of all the voting systems in the state and then count the votes according to this percentage. However, there are major legal problems with this (remember “one man, one vote”), but there are centuries of legal precedents that allow certain counties or districts to be thrown out altogether due to voting irregularities. It is simply much easier to do so and since that’s how it always has been done, it probably always will be done in this way as well.

The 2000 Supreme Court ruling however, was so influential that it has required states to institute one uniform system throughout the state, instead of letting each registrar do it as they feel fit.

If you look on the internet about California's recent recall election, a court challenge was made that essentially would have put a stop to the election altogether for the very reason that not all counties in California count votes the same way. It was eventually ruled that the election could continue. Since it ended up being a landslide win for Arnold, it doesn't become and issue. However, if it were a tight race, the losing candidate would almost certainly have demanded a recount and then challenged certain counties’ voting systems. This happens all over the country in local, state and federal elections all the time. It rarely happens in presidential elections because they rarely are so close.

Anonymous (October 6, 2003)

Seriously, this album is really good.

novascotia4012 (September 29, 2003)

Gets a three for the only three good songs on here: Irrationality of Rationality, Medio-core, Whoops I OD'd

joeg (September 15, 2003)

eh not bad. good to hear them playing some more ska parts.

PunkStarPrincess (September 10, 2003)

I was pretty impressed with the new album, it sounds...well like NOFX which is good, so many bands now a dayws are constantly changing their sound(IE AFI) and I think that NOFX has consistantly given us the same great stuff, yet reinvented with the new alum! thumbs up

PunkStarPrincess (September 10, 2003)

I was pretty impressed with the new album, it sounds...well like NOFX which is good, so many bands now a dayws are constantly changing their sound(IE AFI) and I think that NOFX has consistantly given us the same great stuff, yet reinvented with the new alum! thumbs up

PunkStarPrincess (September 10, 2003)

I was pretty impressed with the new album, it sounds...well like NOFX which is good, so many bands now a dayws are constantly changing their sound(IE AFI) and I think that NOFX has consistantly given us the same great stuff, yet reinvented with the new alum! thumbs up

funkisdead (September 10, 2003)

argh this is in the top 10?
quick, i guess its better than count the stars.

Anonymous (September 8, 2003)

After a couple weeks of listening, you'll realize how much this CD sucks. NOFX needs to give up. Punk In Drublic was their best, but even then it wasn't THAT good. NOFX was better when they sucked.

Anonymous (September 6, 2003)

NOFX's political lyrics dont stand up to anti-flags!?! anti-flag is possibly the most uneducated band in punk rock. dont ever review anything again, please

FuckArmageddon77 (August 20, 2003)

I was both skeptical and excited when this CD first came out. I have been a long time NOFX fan, but in all honesty I was of the belief that their material has been moving steadily downhill after "White Trash, Two Heebs, and a Bean". However, due to Fat Mike's recent tendency of being more vocal as of late in regards to our political climate, I was interested in hearing how this album was going to turn out.
So I bought the CD and I must say that in my opinion this is the best damn album NOFX has produced in almost a decade. Hooray!
Now, I don't learn about politics and current events by listening to song lyrics. I prefer to get my info from more informed sources (Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Micheal Moore, The Nation, Guardian UK, etc.) However, I do feel that in times of political/social crisis or upheaval, it is the role of any artist (or musician for that matter) to address the issues as best they can from their own perspective. Fat Mike is not a political scholar, and while you are much more likely to find a more profound or in-depth critique of our culture and policy from more well-read entertainers such as Jello Biafra, Greg Graffin, or even Propagandhi/Good Riddance/Anti-Flag, the fact remains that somehow, our current national problems have become so grossly epidemic that a previously non-political (bordering on novelty) band has felt the need to say something about it. And despite the humor and sarcasm, it's fairly safe to say that they are pissed off. And the fact that they have felt pissed off enough to comment on it is a fairly strong statement on it's own.
In short, I think this is one of my favorite albums to come out this year. And it is one of my Top 3 NOFX releases of all time (the other two being Punk In Drublic and White Trash...and The Decline but that's just a single)
Anyhow, I've you're looking for in-depth commentary, you're better off with another band (or even better...try reading something from someone who actually studies this stuff). But if you want sharp, biting wit and satire, The War On Errorism is a damn good place to find it.

Anonymous (August 16, 2003)

This is by far the greatest fucking NOFx album ever!! i loved it!! they are still one of the best fucking bands in teh world!!

Anonymous (August 15, 2003)

Some songs are really good but others fall short from one giving it more than two listens.Thou, I like mike's focus on politics this time around and since its quite an appropiate time. i dont really care if they went back to playin ska cuz they shouldnt be limiting them selfs to just straight ahead punk. also the first track is really cool with that whirling riff. Overall a strong NoFx album but not amazing.

Anonymous (August 6, 2003)

i always sorta liked nofx, but this cd made me buy their other cds, this cds abillity to ad political views that most artists are afraid to use is refreshing

RondoMondo (July 30, 2003)

NOFX is one of my favorite bands and all, but this cd is downright disappointing. It's like Heavy Petting Zoo. Both cds have the few memorable songs, but both fall short on the radar of the best NOFX cd. This cd was made out to be the rawest and most political cd, but came out to be...just lackluster. I mean they make fun of No Use For A Name on 'Separation of Church and Skate'...which is pretty weird, them being label mates and all, but it does provide a laugh. But all in all, this cd was nothing that it was touted to be.

Anonymous (July 26, 2003)

This is my real score.

Anonymous (July 26, 2003)

I really didnt like this as much as I liked their older cds. The lyrics seemed dumbed down. It's like they TRIED to be "all political and shit". I thought they had more to say when they weren't even "trying."

Anonymous (July 22, 2003)

Well, i think that this album gives mike's cinicism about how 'the notes and chords sound similar' some justification. It has its moments but not really enough to satisfy my needs as a NOFX fan, i love the way they usually produce albums where i repeat each song and don't get tired of them but perhaps this album is the end of the line and a hefty anti-climax, or perhaps i'm being too harsh, after all, it's still in my CD player right now, i seem to be going back Franco Unamerica alot cos i like it :). As for the lyrics, maybe i just don't understand after all i am..... British (don't hurt me. I still like the band and enjoy their music and i can't say this album was a waste of money cos there is no way i could leave it on the shop shelf.

newworldslacker83 (July 22, 2003)

well well. a NOFX review, and trust that to bring out the "sk8r boi's"... hehehehe... kidding, seriously tho kids, nofx does kick ass, i don't deny it. but if you wanna support that movement, go out and buy a noam chomsky book and find out what it's all about! don't talk to people about anarchy cuz you bought a sex pistols or an anarchy tshirt at hot topic. you probably don;t know what it really entails. and then, if you plan on limiting your intake of punk to nofx and lagwagon and shit, then don't come to a punk forum and "diss" old punks or call yourself a "true punk". if they cared and knew where you lived, they'd probably come to kick your ass. i suggest you go see a real show and get into a real mosh pit. meaning, if you've never been a adicts or a subhumans show, you don't know what your missing kids. NOFX simply put out an album in the same style that they know people love because there was a more acute and more defined message on this album. perhaps the purpose of not straying from the musical "formula" is because they chose instead to focus on the message. hey, it's just a thought
*rock out whenever you can*

Anonymous (July 20, 2003)

good album. the ska songs dissapointed me a bit...

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

""If you don't support Bush, why are you arguing on his behalf?"

Because he's not all wrong just like Democrats aren't all right."

Bush IS all wrong though. Honestly, relay, think about what good he's done for anybody. Think long and hard. If you can come up with 5 things, you get a million bucks. This isn't a Clinton/Bush argument, either. Also, quit trying to hide the fact that you're obviously a conservative Republican.

-BSD

Le_MAD (July 15, 2003)

Stupid comments:

1."Have you forgotten that true punk is not giving a f**k and rebeling."

Rebelling because WE GIVE a fuck. That's true punk.

2."Any american band moaning about their economy should spend some time in an african state."

I don't think NOFX ever wrote a song about the US economy, but the fact that americans are richer than africans doesn't mean they don't have any significant problems to solve in the country. People of other nations have to start caring more about their own countries and less of the americans. (And that doesn't mean we have to let them go to war with everybody, for exemple). We can't hate them because they are rich and powerful...

3."Well it seems as if the whiny libs would rather have bush in office so they can sell records. when bush leaves in 5 years nofx will go back to their old style, if they already arent burnt out by then."

The use of the word "whiny" makes you an asshole.

Anonymous (July 10, 2003)

Alright I really enjoyed this CD and it makes some strong points what the hell has happened to the goverment and world I mean come on and no I dont just get my political views from Fat Mike and Michael Moore. I mean what the hell, everyone in the punk community is not punk anymore. You guys just like the music and that why people are following. Have you forgotten that true punk is not giving a f**k and rebeling. I mean NOFX is pretty strong on their stuff and no I am not a new NOFX fan I listen to all their records. The Seperation of Church and Skate makes a good point on how my generation is going. evryone is being too overprotected. It's crazy. NOFX even threw in some of their humor in Shes Nubs and Mattersville. Listen to this record!!

Anonymous (July 8, 2003)

the hard fast songs rock, but the ska and slower songs suck, just like all the other nofx records. no. 2 rocks(downloaded this one coz where i live it would have cost me $40 and just the thought of where that money would go makes me sick). im sick and tired of nofx looking at this from an american point of view just like everything else, where can we go, i dont wanna be another i-dont-care-i-can. whatever. any american band moaning about their economy should spend some time in an african state. anyway this isnt about examples, just seems that seen as ur labelling everyone else i feel fine in labelling ur lyrics as following the same policies as the ones that ur trying to sing against. still love the album though, even if i have to grit my teeth for the slower lame songs. but hey thats what nofx is all about. gonna go and listen to dig. anyone have any facts about how many nofx albums are sold out of the us? anyway lets keep punk punk and not turn it into macdonalds punk.

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

This is one of their best. The only one better then this is Punk In Drublic.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

I miss Punk In Drublic...

jooshua (June 30, 2003)

this is a great album. it might be their best album yet, or next to pump up the valuum. fat mike really expresses his mind about the topics of the world today and i like it.

Manman (June 27, 2003)

Nixon's Olfactory Farm Xtra made a real stinker this time. These guys could stand to take a shower or two because this record done stank to high heaven. Rosie O'Donnell must be rolling in her grave by now.

Anonymous (June 27, 2003)

well it seems as if the whiny libs would rather have bush in office so they can sell records. when bush leaves in 5 years nofx will go back to their old style, if they already arent burnt out by then

Anonymous (June 24, 2003)

"Sometimes he sounds a little silly repeating himself ad nauseaum about the same things" - Wtf is that all about? The reason he is repeating himself is because the presidents fucked politics is still as evident now as it was when Mike began to comment him. Nofx kicks ass, and so does their latest album:)

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

The song She's Nubs is about a girl from Toronto named Talli, she's basically a torso but she's a really cool girl. I had the chance to hang out with Mike and the rest of the bands at the Toronto show last year when I was working for FAT Canada. It was funny listening to him talk to her and the song is just as hilarious. Look for Talli the Torso next time NOFX play Toronto.

Anonymous (June 3, 2003)

to anonymous: it sounds a little bit like it(at some moments) but you should try to make more than 200songs without some that have some ressamblences...
so what i wanna say you suck and your comment does suck even more
NOFX are still the best...

lunchbox (May 29, 2003)

i really like this cd. it has a lot of good song and i'd happy they brought back some ska stuff. all the songs are great and the enhanced cd stuff is awesome. i suggest that all fans of punk rock give this album a try.

Anonymous (May 29, 2003)

To the guy who asked about the 13 Stitches thing- Buy the CD and find out for yourself.

Anonymous (May 23, 2003)

holy shit i thought only i noticed nubs and fun things to fuck are the same. u missed another one though, aside from quart in session, franco unamerican sounds alot like 'party enema'. this album is ok.

Anonymous (May 23, 2003)

hey... can anyone tell me why the drums on 13 Stiches are so weird?? is is the version from the internet or the CD version has also this weird drum sound??

squeeves11 (May 22, 2003)

the lyrics of this album are definetly some of the best NOFX has ever had. yes some songs are weak, but have to applaud NOFX for standing up for what they believe in and taking a stand.

Anonymous (May 22, 2003)

just curious - did anyone else happen to notice...

1) the melody from "she's nubs" is almost exactly the same melody from "fun things to fuck".. it's even in the same key

2) the melody from "franco un-american" is almost exactly the same melody from "quart in session"... also in the same exact key

3) "medio-core" has a VERY strong resemblence to the song "lazy train"... although at least this one's not in the same key

It's one thing for a band to perfect a style, it's another thing for a band to recycle their old song melodies almost verbatim. Maybe the younger/newer fans won't even notice, but I think this album will be especially disappointing to the more avid NOFX fan.

Anonymous (May 21, 2003)

I didn't expect to like this.

I'm a huge Nofx fan but I think my musical tastes have changed and matured since my Nofx obsession a few years back. Anywho, I am surprised with this. its actually a really good, solid effort. Sure it has some poor songs (Mattersville, 13 stiches), but it also has some really great tunes (Seperation of church and Skate, Regaining Unconciusness). Well, they haven't changed, not in the slightest. If you liked there previous stuff, i think you'd like this too. Even though they don't change over time, I still manage to be interested in there stuff, unlike other stagnant acts like Pennywise and No Use. Yay Nofx, Yay fat Mike. Fuck elitists!

-bemused-

Anonymous (May 21, 2003)

Moron. Look at this or any other place stupid punks can post on the internet. That is probably why.

This album rocks, but whoever taught Fat Mike to play keyboards should be shot.

Anonymous (May 21, 2003)

hey fat mike against the machine -- how come there's no place to post opinions on either the fat wreck website, nofx.org, or punkvoter.com?? are you simply trying to push your agenda like everyone else?? where's the freedom of speech big guy? scared of other opinions besides your own? how can you push your views down everyone's throats and not give a forum for response? I actually applaud you for fighting the good fight, but if you truly want the kids to get all sides of an issue, give them a place to read and post what other punk kids feel, not just what you think they should think... by the way, the war on errorism ain't bad.
ejerlenmeyer@aol.com

Anonymous (May 19, 2003)

I can only agree with the person who said "it´s sad that all you punkers get your political info from fat mike and michael moore"

Anonymous (May 18, 2003)

i only gave it a one because i havnt heard it yet.....i just wanted to say: FOR FUCK SAKE ITS JUST A FUCKIN CD!!!! stop with all the educational political bullshit and just enjoy the music!!! good god nobody cares about who did what and who thinks what about politics. keep your stupid opinions about who is liberal and who isnt and all that other bullshit to yourself. this is punknews.org, not the fuckin House of Representitives! just say whether you ilike the album or not and tell what songs are good and what arent. why is everyone so worried about looking smart? fuckin idiots

Ahahaha. I bet you were really proud of yourself after writing this one. But so you don't have a fit I'll talk about the album. This album would be a lot better without "Mattersville," and "Anarchy Camp."

Vote Nader

Anonymous (May 18, 2003)

Obviously enough people care to argue abou it.

Anonymous (May 17, 2003)

i only gave it a one because i havnt heard it yet.....i just wanted to say: FOR FUCK SAKE ITS JUST A FUCKIN CD!!!! stop with all the educational political bullshit and just enjoy the music!!! good god nobody cares about who did what and who thinks what about politics. keep your stupid opinions about who is liberal and who isnt and all that other bullshit to yourself. this is punknews.org, not the fuckin House of Representitives! just say whether you ilike the album or not and tell what songs are good and what arent. why is everyone so worried about looking smart? fuckin idiots

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

Hi, I`m from Brazil and I just want to say that, NOFX is the greatest band in the fucking world. The new CD is great.

NOFX is the band witch never get old.

Bye
Macarrăo

lunk (May 15, 2003)

ha ha! check this out:

if you put this cd in your computer, the nofx video thingie comes up automatically...

now...

type 'roids'...

then wait...

ha ha! FATARI! classic!

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

This record is the best record I've ever heard..
I agree with most of Fat-Mikes ideas and I think the lyrics are good and delivers a good message to punkrock kids.

If I wouldn't agree with the lyrics,
I probably would have liked this CD less..

If I didn't like the kind of punk NOFXs plays I would probably think the record sucked..

But I sure as hell wouldn't bring it up on a message board..

Grow up..
If you didn't like the record,
write down what you didn't like.

If you didn't listen to it all all or doesn't like NOFX generally,
You must be really bored and really alone.. Proving what to who?

And too all the people that gave a score with yellow stars..

I agree this Album really rocks and NOFX is a good band..

See y'all at Okie dogs

relay1112 (May 13, 2003)

Addendum:

Clinton marketed himself as being a very moderate liberal to win the election. One of his campaign advisors had a startegy called the "triangle strategy." That is, you take your position, your opponent's position, and make a triangle; the new tip is your new position! HMM! You bought it; hook, line and sinker.

Correction:

"The exception, of course, being some southern Democrats who are rather *CONSERVATIVE* (for a while, many Southerners refused to be Republican because of Lincoln)."

relay1112 (May 13, 2003)

Oh man, where do I start?

"Correction: Clinton wasn't a liberal."

Clinton was extremely liberal in social policy. Need an example? He vetoed Congress' bill banning partial birth abortions not once but TWICE. Additionally, I am using the word "liberal" to avoid you guys accusing me of labeling people as Democrats.

"And if you think Bush is a better president, then you are mad."

Where did I say that? Oh wait, I didn't.

"our economy is in such a ditch that people with solid college degrees can't find jobs in the midwest"

When Clinton came into office, the economy was already on the rise. During his terms, the tech boom happened and the economy soared. Recession was already beginning towards the end of CLINTON's term. Enron and Worldcom happened during CLINTON's term. Therefore, Bush inherited an economy already on a recession, and that recession was facilitated by a major terrorist attack and the corporate scandals which occurred during Clinton's term. So, why is Bush to blame again?

"The people of the country are more torn apart than ever over the wars we have gotten into."

More torn than ever? Ever heard of Vietnam? Ever heard of the founding of our country? There was a fuckin' 70% approval rating! Just cuz you see people chaining themselves to the streets and blocking traffic on TV doesn't mean that the nation was "more torn than ever." Unless, of course, 70-30 is torn right down the middle?

"It is also evident from the several historical/political inaccuracies you made that you don't know what you're talking about."

Which?

"I'm not a democrate, republican, independent, or green party member, but at least I know the difference between a democrate and a liberal."

Apparently you aren't a "democrate," as if you were, you'd at least know how to spell it. Clinton was liberal in social policy and was a Democrat, a party that is ALMOST ALWAYS liberal in social policy. The exception, of course, being some southern Democrats who are rather liberal (for a while, many Southerners refused to be Republican because of Lincoln).

"But you probably think a liberal is a bad thing... Go fuck."

Assumptions assumptions. Oh, and you forgot to put in the second half of yoru insult. What, exactly, am I supposed to fuck?

"If you don't support Bush, why are you arguing on his behalf?"

Because he's not all wrong just like Democrats aren't all right.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

"So let's see... Clinton, a Liberal president, engages in TWO military actions with "less than 1/100th" of the world's consent.""

Correction: Clinton wasn't a liberal. And if you think Bush is a better president, then you are mad. All foreign fucked-up affairs aside, our economy is in such a ditch that people with solid college degrees can't find jobs in the midwest. Bush is trying to tear apart our national parks, something more "criminal" than what Nader does. The people of the country are more torn apart than ever over the wars we have gotten into.

It is also evident from the several historical/political inaccuracies you made that you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not a democrate, republican, independent, or green party member, but at least I know the difference between a democrate and a liberal. But you probably think a liberal is a bad thing... Go fuck. If you don't support Bush, why are you arguing on his behalf?

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

'
'seriously, who cares? They are way past their prime, and I just sold my 2 tickets to their show on Friday because of it. Boredom is not on my list of fun.

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****'

aren't you the one who likes allister?
'

He's the one who likes simple plan ;)

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Not that I necessarily wish to incite political riot, but I recently discovered some information about Ralph Nader that I found surprising, and the previous comment bringing him up sparked me to share.

If you attend any major public institution of higher education, you probably are funding Nader without your knowledge. I attend the University of Colorado and was unaware of it until a few weeks ago. Ralph Nader founded organizations called "Public Interest Research Groups" or PRIGs that recieve automatic funding from hundreds of universities across the country by siphoning money from each students mandatory fees (it's usually between 2 and 6 dollars per person). The university's governing bodies must approve this, of course, but I'm sure very few students are aware of it.

These PRIGs then use this money for many noble causes, including the Student Environmental Action Coalition. Local SEAC chapters pay dues to support the national organization. It lobbies on such political issues as social justice, environmental justice, military spending, welfare reform, global warming, and corporate governance. All well and good things in principal. However, it is practically criminal to be funding them through individuals who may completely disagree. Most importantly, it's counter to the 1st amendment.

Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1777 that "to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." And it is possible for students to wade through a sizable sea of buraucracy to get their money back, but few actually will (or even know they could).

Personally, I'd rather choose where to give my money, rather than having the tributaries of my tution hid behiend a smokey mass of acronyms and deception. That's some finance reform to chew on, Mr. Nader.

Follow up this info on your own at: http://i2i.org/Publications/IB/Education/studentfees.htm
and: http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm#PIRG

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I voted for Nader, and I will next election. I suggest you get involved in voting in case you value your privacy.

Here, read about the TCPA (the Anti-TCPA to be more specific), but you can read about how Democrats can be assholes too. :D Money can work wonders on your congressman.

http://www.againsttcpa.com/tcpa-faq-en.html

Th e TCPA/Palladium must not happen if you value your right to privacy.

relay1112 (May 12, 2003)

A correction: we did not go into Kosovo alone. We strong-armed NATO into backing us. NATO, however, is far less united and represents far less of the all-important proportion of nations.

relay1112 (May 12, 2003)

We've got a little genius here!

"Nope... And if you think a "liberal" would attack a foreign country with less than 1/100s of the world's consent, you obviously don't know much."

Nice job putting "liberal" in quotes. I said a Liberal president; they can be classified as such without being an attack. Furthermore, you are wrong. Let me explain:

When Clinton invaded Bosnia, he requested UN approval and it was denied.

Clinton notified the UN about Kosovo, but did not request their input. We did it alone. In fact, the UN denounced the act openly.

So let's see... Clinton, a Liberal president, engages in TWO military actions with "less than 1/100th" of the world's consent." But you're right, my misinformed friend, I obviously must not know much. Thank you and goodnight.

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

"I really wonder what a Liberal president would do in this situation? I guarantee you he would do something militarily, and then would you all attack Democrats? It'd be interesting to see."

Nope... And if you think a "liberal" would attack a foreign country with less than 1/100s of the world's consent, you obviously don't know much. It's as simple as this:

TERRORISTS= BAD

ANTI-TERRORIST OPERATIONS= GOOD

CONQUERING AND OCCUPYING A NON-THREATENING COUNTRY FOR A YEAR= BAD

NOT LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE OF YOUR COUNTRY= BAD

NOT GETTING APPROVAL FROM COUNTRIES MUCH CLOSER THAN YOUR TARGET, EVEN WHEN THOSE COUNTRIES DISLIKE YOUR TARGET JUST AS MUCH AS YOU= BAD!!!!

And George Bush did all of the BAD things.

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

Who the fuck does this guy think he is. He says its good but sounds like "Pump Up The Valuum." This CD leaves "Valuum" in the dust. And to say that Fat Mike is repeating himself. Who gives a shit. It still sounded good. This guys needs to learn to stop over-analyzing songs and enjoy them for the music that they are. God Damn.


SHUT YO' JIVE TALKIN, JIBBER-JABBERIN' MOUF! THAT WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF A REVIEW, JIVE-TURKEY! REVIEWS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CRITICAL! I PITY THA FOO' WHO THINKS LIKE THIS!

DIAL 1-800-COLLECT AND WATCH ME ON CONAN THURSDAY!

- Mr. T

thriceequalsgod (May 12, 2003)

this thing is for cd comments.... someone just make a message board and stop using up space where you can do it somewhere else...

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

Here's what I say, bands move on, age, and make the music that obviously they think is up to par for their fans. You cannot blame them for any of the above, it happens, but this album still rocks. The best part is that Fat Mike can still preach about social problems and the dilemma with this democratic government but at the same time keep his sense of humor and not alienate his fans by changing NOFX's style. NOFX never was Anti-Flag or Propaghandi and they never will be, to cateogrize somebody by some publicized feelings is stupid. This CD rocks.

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

Who the fuck does this guy think he is. He says its good but sounds like "Pump Up The Valuum." This CD leaves "Valuum" in the dust. And to say that Fat Mike is repeating himself. Who gives a shit. It still sounded good. This guys needs to learn to stop over-analyzing songs and enjoy them for the music that they are. God Damn.

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

Well....to the guy a few down. If someone as utterly retarded as Jerry Falwell can get a spot on CNN, then any bum off the street should be hosting the damn shows!!!

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

to be honest, i didnt like punk in drublic the first time i heard it, then again, i was 15 and shit was alot different, as in music and myslef (now being 22). this album is good, i'd put it on par with heavy petting zoo and some other ones. punk in drublic and valuum are my fav's though. it coulda been a whole lot worse.

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

"it seems to me that if you have to listen to an album 8 times or more before you start liking it, that it means it's brainwashing you to like it, if you don't like something after two times hearing it, and I mean really listening to it, it's not worth it"

On the contrary : Pop songs like the most shit you see&hear one MTV are designed to be easy to listen to. But this kind of music gets boring quite fast because it has no substance.

There was no NOFX album i liked immediately after hearing it the first time. There´s no difference this time.

greetz seb

insinceredave (May 11, 2003)

You all deserve your own spot on CNN!

insincere dave

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

Holy fuck! It's a fucking cd for fuck's sake! Yet there seems to be an endless amount of people lining up to argue about it, then bash everyone else's thoughts. Let people have their opinions, who cares if you think they're wrong. No wonder America is in such terrible shape. Do you people really hate each other that much?

That said, here's my 2 cents on this cd.

This album strikes me as being almost the same as PUTV.
Both have a couple of killer straight-up punk songs: Separation, Idiots, Take Two, Dinosaurs
Both have some tracks with goofy, almost pointless lyrics: Shes Nubs, Clams Have Feelings
Both have the song about how the radio sucks, now a NOFX standard: Dinosaurs, again, and now Mediocore

The biggest thing for me about both these albums is the fact that about half the album is head and shoulders above the other half. Now that I think about it, SLATFATS is the same kind of deal, too. But, the difference between it and these 2 albums is that the latest two could have been so much better. Think about the material that NOFX has released recently, but kept off their full length releases. How much more of a classic album would PUTV have been if it had included songs like PUTV, Bath of Least, Pimps & Hookers, SF Fat, Zyclone B, Lower, etc. All of a sudden it doesn't need to include songs off Fuck the Kids. The problem with that, I think, is that Pharmacist's Daughter or Clams have Feelings don't make very "previously unreleased" comp songs. With WOE once again, I fear they chose to leave off some of the better songs. So far, I like Hardcore 84 better than a lot of stuff on this cd. I wonder if Glass War will be the same kind of thing?

This newest album also carries the dubious distinction of having the worst NOFX song ever on it, in my humble opinion, of course. Before Mattersville, I didn't really, really dislike any of their songs (except maybe Timmy the Turtle).

However, my overall impression of this cd is that it's the kind of album that grows of you; the more you listen, the better you like. That's been the case for me so far. When I first listened to PUTV, it kind of hit me right away, but then kind of got old after awhile.

Anyway...

Yes, their last couple of albums have been very similar, but so what? They all have in common the fact that they're great NOFX cds. They're not Ribbed, White Trash, or PID, but I'm not sure that's what I want from NOFX.

Also, I must agree with my fellow Canadian's post below. Whoops I OD'd, although the title sounds kind of lame, is a great song. It is, like he/she said, "haunting, depressing". The mood of this song reminds me of Falling in Love.

Wow. That was way too long. Whatever.
NOFX still rocks.

Love, Doug

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

The sad thing about Fat Mike is that he would rather have anybody else in office and any single Democrat, including idiots like Joe Lieberman.

Anybody who takes Fat Mike or Micheal Moore seriously needs to get out and read up on history and politics as a whole and stop reading what those clowns are saying.

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

I was disapointed wen hearing this album. PUTV was much better, the sound was completely new and sounded modern. I thought that nofx had moved on and continued ther musical evolution... But no this album sounds exactly like so long or heavy petting zoo.
Despite these critical views I must admit that the music is OK and worth listening to.

relay1112 (May 11, 2003)

"wow, how did i know the these comments would devolve into a bunch of political arguing amongst uninformed kids?"

Why? Because people are saying things you don't agree with? So far I've been pretty impressed with how few "FUX BUSH!!" comments I've seen and how many posts have actually had some substance. Yours not included.

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

it seems to me that if you have to listen to an album 8 times or more before you start liking it, that it means it's brainwashing you to like it, if you don't like something after two times hearing it, and I mean really listening to it, it's not worth it.

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

Everyone who was dissapointed after hearing the war on errorism for the first 3 times or so : Listen to it a few more times ! Its defnitely worth it ! I think it takes a little time to get used to (it took me a little time to get used to it, now i cant stop listening to it).
One of their best cds !

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

I don’t know if it occurred to anyone else, but the song “no borders, no nations” by anti-flag could apply to any county in the world. Maybe that is just the subtlety that anti-flag intended but I really doubt it. Call him Bush or Saddam but it goes for both guys. “I won’t sign my pride, faith away to an unjust leader of an unjust police state.” Iraq or the states? Same fucking thing. That is why anti-flag writes broad songs that can apply to anyone. Do they rock? Yes, should anyone be getting their news from a punk band, no. I lub the punk rock but It won’t make up my mind as much as fox news won’t make up my mind. I'll get my opinions from both and make up my own mind.
I would help if you would get a goddamn education and vote and make a decision instead of standing around bitching. I wonder whom fat mike voted for? Nader? I hope not. I know he isn’t from Florida but if anyone from Florida actually voted for Nader I hope to fuck they carry the weight of the county on their shoulders everyday. The American political system, as designed by the forefathers, does a great job and it has for 200 years. In the big picture everything is brought to the middle. That is why it works well. I have my own opinions and so does the preacher across the street. Is he less American than I am? Nope, not a chance in hell. his stupid opinion is as valid as my stupid opinion.
Do you think Bush is an aberration? He stole the election and we are all being cheated? What about Jerry Ford he was President and no one elected him? What about James Polk (1844), Zachary Taylor (1848), James Buchanan (1856), Abraham Lincoln (1860, but not 1864), Rutherford B. Hayes (1876), James A. Garfield (1880), Grover Cleveland (1884 and 1892), Benjamin Harrison (1888), Woodrow Wilson (1912 and 1916), Harry S. Truman (1948), John F. Kennedy (1960), Richard M. Nixon (1968, but not 1972), Bill Clinton (1992 and 1996), and George W. Bush (2000). None of them had 50% of the vote. That is how the constitution works. The beauty of it is that it doesn’t matter because in 4 years there will be another election and there might be another asshole in the white house and if isn’t 4 years it will be 8. What is the average life span 70 years? Oh my god, 4 years of my life ruined by Bush. It is all over. Give me a fucking break. Get a goddamned life and try and make difference yourself.

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

I got this album about five days ago from a record store with no lights. the guy behind the countersaidit was really good. best album they've released in a long while he said. i gotithome, put it on. was dissapointed. it's not that great, i thought. better than PUTV though, but not a patch on SLATFATS (which, after MUCH delibration, i have decided is NOFX's third-best release after Ribbed and The Decline). So i listned to it a couple more times. it shitted m that i'd heard like half the album already (mattersville on the fat sampler and the tracks on last month's EP). Fuck. i thought. there's a keyboardist and everything. Fat Mike's gone all overtly political, but it seems half-arsed. if i wanted to listen to political punk i would (and do). i bought this wanting to harthe NOFX i knew and loved.

then i listened to it some more.

and it grew on me.

and i stated liking it more.

and more.

and the flash animation for franco un-american was cool.

pity i'd already seen the doco on the 2000 election like three months ago.

and i saw fat mike's dog wot he wrote that spam mail about. it's pretty ugly.

at the moment i'm at the stage where the album is definately up there. better than PUTV, better than LA, better than MR'nR. it's looking good.

-lunk

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

It may not be their best but I like it a lot. Fat Mikes voice is extremely unique. The lyrics/songs/themes remind of So Long more than any other NOFX disc. You can easily tell there is a new focus on guitar. Its follows the usual NOFX standards... every song is pretty much different and theres one song thats way off... on this one its Anarchy Camp. It sounds like a commercial for a vacation or something. Yeah there were synths on some of the song, but I didnt think it made the songs worse, I thought some were pretty cool, and the synths were not over used like some bands have ended up today. Seperation of Church and Skate is a wicked song and its one of the best. I think all the tracks are notable because of their unalikeness from each other.

waste_elite (May 10, 2003)

wow, how did i know the these comments would devolve into a bunch of political arguing amongst uninformed kids?

relay1112 (May 10, 2003)

Some further comment on the North Korea issue:

During Clinton's presidency, North Korea presented a similar ultimatum to their current "deal" to Clinton: give us money or we build nukes. What did Clinton do? He gave them immense sums of 'foreign aid' in return for 'dismantling of their nuclear program.' What's happened since? Let's see... NK's leader (a fuckin psycho) has used exactly zero dollars to aid his starving populous and millions of dollars to further his nuclear development program. Does Clinton deserve blame for that? Just as much as Nixon deserves blame for Watergate. This, of course, all goes to my point that you must attack injustice WHEREVER it occurs, be it on the left or on the right.

relay1112 (May 10, 2003)

"Thats because Bush pulled out his stocks right before they collapsed, smart guy."

Wasn't aware of that happening, but I am very aware of the fact that many large corporations (they're the evil ones, right?) engaged in illegal financial activities under Clinton's presidency. It was under Bush that they were exposed. So if we base everything on what happens during someone's presidency, then Bush should receive credit for exposing them, right?!?!

"Bush still couldn't find Bin Laden... So what does he do? He says Iraq poses a threat. And we can't find Hussein. So... Now Iran and Syria are threats."

Because all of said countries ARE dangerous. They aren't just straw men to attract our attention away from Bin Laden's at-large status. You can't blame Bush for not being able to find Bin Laden. That is, unless you or any other person on Earth has a better idea.

"Well, if this is even true I think we need to find out what we were doing wrong to the Middle East to cause them to 'be threats'"

Well, be careful here, because not every unstable region is our fault. I agree, we need to examine our foreign policy long and hard, but in the meantime, Iran has nukes, North Korea has nukes and threatens to use them, and if not, SELL THEM (even worse). What if Syria or Iran gets those long-range nukes?

"The UN also backed [Clinton] up."

The UN is useless, as far as I'm concerned. No matter what you say about Iraq, they were still completely unwilling to deal with a country who violated innumerable UN resolutions over a period of twelve years. It was the UN's responsibility to take decisive action, but they didn't do anything, so, for better or worse, we stepped in.

Basically, the entire situation is impossible, because to do nothing is unacceptable, and to do much is always a bad thing. Unfortunately, the people we are dealing with do not represent their nations as a whole and are unwilling to negotiate. You cannot convince Al Qaeda to stop targeting Americans or Hamas to stop targeting Israelis (and you cannot convince Israelis to stop targeting Hamas) no matter how hard you try. I really wonder what a Liberal president would do in this situation? I guarantee you he would do something militarily, and then would you all attack Democrats? It'd be interesting to see.

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

"I'm not supporting anything here, just saying that you can't attack Bush and not attack Clinton for the same, if not worse. Keep in mind Clinton's refusal to do anything when Bin Laden was offered to him, his horrible economic policy (Enron and Tyco happened under HIS administration, the recession began during HIS administration, and Bush gets blamed)."

Thats because Bush pulled out his stocks right before they collapsed, smart guy.

There's a big difference between bombing a ship off the coast of a foreign country and killing 2 thousand people in New York City... And Bush still couldn't find Bin Laden... So what does he do? He says Iraq poses a threat. And we can't find Hussein. So... Now Iran and Syria are threats. Well, if this is even true I think we need to find out what we were doing wrong to the Middle East to cause them to "be threats"

I have issues with Clinton and his fuck up escapades in Africa, but he never used ground troops or claimed that Serbia was a threat to our security. The UN also backed him up. Remember back when America wasn't so xenophobic?

relay1112 (May 10, 2003)

"Fat Mike is a democrate, for one. For two, the way Clinton waged the war on Serbia was much less sloppy and more efficient than Bush. His objectives were also much less double sided"

Learn how to spell Democrat, for one. For two, Clinton didn't NEED to send any ground troops. Also, the bombing didn't need to be nearly as extensive (as he was not targeting an entire regime). Third, Bush had more reason to attack Iraq's regime than Clinton did. Why? Clinton was fighting genocide, but the same was occuring in Iraq. Additionally, the regime in Iraq was much more detrimental to the region. Top that off with even the potential for WMDs, and 5,000 dead children per month from starvation alone (source: UN), and tell me that Clinton was more justified.

I'm not supporting anything here, just saying that you can't attack Bush and not attack Clinton for the same, if not worse. Keep in mind Clinton's refusal to do anything when Bin Laden was offered to him, his horrible economic policy (Enron and Tyco happened under HIS administration, the recession began during HIS administration, and Bush gets blamed).

So, if you're going to criticize government, it's not fair to go after everything the right does and ignore everything the left does. If you're so enlightened, be even in your criticism. That's all.

Final disclaimer: I am not a fascist and am not supporting either the right or the left's actions here.

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

"Funny how Fat Mike thinks American are ignorant and he's right. However, he's the one who's ignorant by targeting Bush. He should be targeting GOVERNMENT, not the just the right. Where was he was Clinton was in office? Clinton took us to war and Fat Mike didn't say shit. And he thinks WE'RE the hypocrites?????"

Fat Mike is a democrate, for one. For two, the way Clinton waged the war on Serbia was much less sloppy and more efficient than Bush. His objectives were also much less double sided...

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

to the guy who posted the letter from the liner notes.

what's your point

toma (May 10, 2003)

woo, just found assroids... the cd is worth it just to play that goofy flash game

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

Funny how Fat Mike thinks American are ignorant and he's right. However, he's the one who's ignorant by targeting Bush. He should be targeting GOVERNMENT, not the just the right. Where was he was Clinton was in office? Clinton took us to war and Fat Mike didn't say shit. And he thinks WE'RE the hypocrites?????

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

What the fuck is this guy talking about? Nofx's Pump up the Voluum is there best album. Its so fucking hilarious. There show Wed. in Hollywood was the best punk rock show ive ever been to.(even though the other 2 bands sucked). Nofx played so well. And there new CD rocks. "Seperation of Church and Skate" is the best song on the CD and "Franco Un-American" kicks ass too.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

and you neva popped NUTTIN!

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

Yous a wanksta.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

Hello, and greetings from NOFX. How are things with you? That’s nice. This
would be a good time to start the introduction to this CD. There’s a bunch of punk
songs and some other kinds of songs (I guess we do still play ska) and plenty of
sophomoric lyrics, but unlike other NOFX CDs, this one has some bonus stuff. We’ve
included an enhanced CD featuring some videos and political commentary.
Yeah, we’re not really known for our politics, but maybe it’s time we are. Maybe
it’s time for people to start sharing information and opinions instead of relying on
our government or the corporate owned media to tell us what they think we
should know. You don’t have to be a political analyst to see that America is
suffering from a general lack of knowledge. In fact, Americans seem to have a
very limited knowledge of knowledge. Lost of opinions floating around, but very
little actual knowledge. For being one of the wealthiest and supposedly greatest
nations on the planet, one would think that the people of this great country would
reflect that greatness. They don’t. Compared to other western countries,
Americans rank among the lowest when it comes to education and general
knowledge and world affairs.
The first question one would ask is why? Why are Americans so ignorant?
Could it be that American government wants them that way? If they don’t, they
might spend more money on education. The best way to keep the status quo is to
keep the majority of people happy. The best way to do keep them happy is to
keep them ignorant. Ignorance is bliss, and the blissful don’t revolt.
How do you keep 300 million people from knowing or caring what’s going
on in the world? Well that seems pretty easy. First, you make sure that people
spend most of their time concerned with their own security. You make sure local
news shows cover all the local shootings, kidnappings, and armed robberies. Then
throw in the sports, weather, and the ever changing price of gasoline. It seems
that ll major news sources provide the same one sided stories. When all you get to
see is the one side, it’s hard to understand the complexities of an issue or have
empathy for the other side. Someone such as Bill Mayer from the canceled tv
show Politically Incorrect was ostracized for giving an honest, yet unpopular
viewpoint on the subject of terrorism, and his show was subsequently canceled.
Somehow one of the most inherently American pastimes of criticizing the
government is now considered to be completely un-American. It’s our
responsibility as Americans to exercise our right to civil disobedience and dissent.
These are the principles on which our country was founded.
Anyway, this is the reason we have included the enhanced CD. People
need an alternitive source of information. This is our way to help inform the public
on how we are all getting ass fucked. The movie “Un-precedented” clearly
illustrates how the 2000 presidential election was rigged in Florida. For being the so-
called leader of democracy, the United States is now the butt of a worldwide joke.
The republican party stole the election and illegally moved into the white house.
It’s pretty much the biggest scandal in US history, and no one seems to be talking
about it. All everyone keeps saying is “Get over it” or “That was so two years ago.”
Well, we’re not getting over it and neither should you. If enough people see what
really happened, hopefully we can make sure that it never happens again. Hey,
the truth about the Cuban Missile Crisis didn’t come out for over 30 years, but it was
just as important when it did. Please watch this trailer for the documentary and
show it to as many people as you can. If you would like to get a full length copy,
go to www.unprecedented.org To get one. Things are not going to change on
their own, we need to work together to take this country back from the criminals
(currently war criminals) that have stolen it from us.
A lot of you reading this might be thinking that we’re assholes or American
traitors. Well we may be assholes, but we’re certainly not traitors. We are actually
patriots in the true sense of the word. We are the ones calling attention to the
faults of our government and trying to fix them. We are the ones trying to explore
mistakes, in order to learn from them instead of covering them up. We are the
ones who have concern for more than just ourselves. We are the ones trying to
educate people. We are the ones who question authority instead of simply
obeying it. We are the ones who are patriotic... FUCK THAT! Did I just say that?
Let’s go back. Patriotism is a little too close to nationalism. Or is it the same thing?
Either way, we are fucking better than Patriots. We are world patriots. Not only do
we care about our own country, we care about the whole fucking planet. We are
human beings with the capability to care for more than just ourselves. So let’s use
that capability. It’s not enough to simply think locally, or nationally, we must think
globally.
Americans are so confused with their own personal safety that they’ve
turned their backs on this country and this planet. They put an American flag on
their SUB and figure they’ve ddone their part. They’re more concerned with their
feardoms than their freedoms (Hey, that’s pretty good!) So let’s stop with the “We
are #1!” Bullshit. America is NOT #1. We’re more like #11, or #12. For the 91% of
Americans who haven’t traveled outside this country (Such as George W. before
he was “elected”), there are several countries that are arguably better than this
one. I would put Australia, Canada, Sweden, Holland, and Denmark on the top of
the list. Some of these countries have all the freedoms the US has plus a whole lot
more or ‘em (prostitution, socialized medicine, euthanasia, gay marriage, legalized
recreational drugs, gay military enlistment, abolishment of death penalty, ETC.)
Don’t get me wrong, # 12 is still pretty damn good out of more than 250 countries,
but there’s still a lot more room for improvement. That’s what this is really all about:
positive change. We don’t want to bash America, we want to make it better. In
order to make it better, you must first point out what is wrong with it. Well, WE got
a big pointing stick and we’re aiming tight for the eye. We’re looking to poke that
sucker right our of it’s socket.

toma (May 9, 2003)

i'm canadian and i got this for $18, so i mean that's really not bad at all. actually i was shocked, most fat releases are $10 more than that.

anyways, whoops i od'd is a pretty depressing song. it's actually really hit me more than any other song on the record, just how it shows how short life is and all... i feel all haunted and stuff now. honestly, i think that song had more of an emotional impact on me than any other song i've heard by nofx.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

Russian Alex is just angry commie.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

This was a worth while album it delivered what it set out to do and more this CD only sufers from minors flaws the one that ticks me off is the under tone guaitars we heard them on thanks for all shoes pump up the valuum and so fourth i was really pumped this album its was very good if you canadian like me we have to pay 25$
to buy this thing but it was worthit if NOFX is reading this (probaly not) keep producing albums and rock on for another decade!!!!!!

jerseychris (May 9, 2003)

that should say "different favorite several nofx cds", which still doesn't make 100% sense, but you know what i mean

jerseychris (May 9, 2003)

All I have to say is that all you people bitch about NOFX and say all their records sound the same etc etc (which i can't argue, they stick to what they do), but if you'll take notice, every person has a different several NOFX cds meaning they must souns a LITTLE different... I thought the cd was good.. very refreshing after PUTV

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

why didn't they stop making records when they said they were going to. ughh. end it already.

toma (May 9, 2003)

i was thinking of soinging don't call me white for canadian idol but i have to work that day so i can't try out... i was considering something by rise against too

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

this album is good, but i like fat mike alot more when he's not being so serious. i mean cmon, 'the irrationality of rationality' and some others on here are laying it on kinda thick. stick to songs like 'thank god its monday' or 'bob' or 'the brews' and shti like that. too damn serious, thats why i never liked 'heavy petting zoo', to serious but 'hobophobic' is great.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

Someone really sang "Don't call me White" on American Idol. And when was this, anybody know a website to get a download

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

Yeah these songs take forever to write. I'm not saying their bad but how hard is it to string together 4 bar chords and a 12 second solo. Why the hell do you think everyone is a punk band these days.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

nofx!!!!11

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

right, sounds like nofx, and i like nofx. But i also think that their sound changes a little from cd to cd. Songs like medio-core defnitely sounds new to me and i was surprised hearing it. I had to listen to the record severals times before i got into it and i think its really good. Despite of that i saw them live last year and it was their best, most angry concert i ever saw.

i don´t have the impression that they´re standing still in anyway.

greetz seb

fakesmile (May 9, 2003)

to gutterhippo: THANKS!!

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

you have too much time on your hands, if people are gonna read that shit it should be cause they buy the fuckin record

(when did punk rock become so safe?)

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

this score is for the "vintage punk clothing" banner.

FortyMinutesWest (May 9, 2003)

(To the guy below) The weather forecast for hell the day that happens:
30 degrees with a chance of snow showers.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

To be president you should have lived in 4 different, poverty stricken foreign countries for atleastr a year each.....and not with the rich, but with the working class. You should also know ATLEAST 4 languages fluently. You should be a Dr. and an Environmentalist. You should be UNDER 50 and OVER 20. You should also NOT have any close relatives in high political positons or have any biased religious views. That would be an ideal president. It may seem like a bit much, but hey....it's only one of the most crucial jobs in DEmocracy.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

To the pissed up Russian dude.......ummmmmmm........thanks for vodka. Our shitty, lazy, uneducated country enjoys it.

gutterhippo (May 8, 2003)

(i figured if i submitted this as news, it wouldnt get posted until it's too late.)

listen to demos of new Aquabat songs from midnight to 8am on friday morning. they'll have 3 demos up to download on their website, http://www.theaquabats.com

hope someone who cares reads this..

vien (May 8, 2003)

Which one of those american idol fucks sang "Don't call me white"????? That's gotta be the most hilarious shit ever! If anybody has a copy of that on video tape, please let me know!!! I have to see it.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

yeah, this CD is similar to all the other NOFX, and everyone is saying "same old, same old", but, what the fuck's wrong with same old. .NOFX has always and always will be the best fuckin punk band around.. They put an essay in their album, and it's pretty good, so I though id type it up and share it. share the anger.

here goes:
 Hello, and greetings from NOFX. How are things with you? That’s nice. This
would be a good time to start the introduction to this CD. There’s a bunch of punk
songs and some other kinds of songs (I guess we do still play ska) and plenty of
sophomoric lyrics, but unlike other NOFX CDs, this one has some bonus stuff. We’ve
included an enhanced CD featuring some videos and political commentary.
Yeah, we’re not really known for our politics, but maybe it’s time we are. Maybe
it’s time for people to start sharing information and opinions instead of relying on
our government or the corporate owned media to tell us what they think we
should know. You don’t have to be a political analyst to see that America is
suffering from a general lack of knowledge. In fact, Americans seem to have a
very limited knowledge of knowledge. Lost of opinions floating around, but very
little actual knowledge. For being one of the wealthiest and supposedly greatest
nations on the planet, one would think that the people of this great country would
reflect that greatness. They don’t. Compared to other western countries,
Americans rank among the lowest when it comes to education and general
knowledge and world affairs.
The first question one would ask is why? Why are Americans so ignorant?
Could it be that American government wants them that way? If they don’t, they
might spend more money on education. The best way to keep the status quo is to
keep the majority of people happy. The best way to do keep them happy is to
keep them ignorant. Ignorance is bliss, and the blissful don’t revolt.
How do you keep 300 million people from knowing or caring what’s going
on in the world? Well that seems pretty easy. First, you make sure that people
spend most of their time concerned with their own security. You make sure local
news shows cover all the local shootings, kidnappings, and armed robberies. Then
throw in the sports, weather, and the ever changing price of gasoline. It seems
that ll major news sources provide the same one sided stories. When all you get to
see is the one side, it’s hard to understand the complexities of an issue or have
empathy for the other side. Someone such as Bill Mayer from the canceled tv
show Politically Incorrect was ostracized for giving an honest, yet unpopular
viewpoint on the subject of terrorism, and his show was subsequently canceled.
Somehow one of the most inherently American pastimes of criticizing the
government is now considered to be completely un-American. It’s our
responsibility as Americans to exercise our right to civil disobedience and dissent.
These are the principles on which our country was founded.
Anyway, this is the reason we have included the enhanced CD. People
need an alternitive source of information. This is our way to help inform the public
on how we are all getting ass fucked. The movie “Un-precedented” clearly
illustrates how the 2000 presidential election was rigged in Florida. For being the so-
called leader of democracy, the United States is now the butt of a worldwide joke.
The republican party stole the election and illegally moved into the white house.
It’s pretty much the biggest scandal in US history, and no one seems to be talking
about it. All everyone keeps saying is “Get over it” or “That was so two years ago.”
Well, we’re not getting over it and neither should you. If enough people see what
really happened, hopefully we can make sure that it never happens again. Hey,
the truth about the Cuban Missile Crisis didn’t come out for over 30 years, but it was
just as important when it did. Please watch this trailer for the documentary and
show it to as many people as you can. If you would like to get a full length copy,
go to www.unprecedented.org To get one. Things are not going to change on
their own, we need to work together to take this country back from the criminals
(currently war criminals) that have stolen it from us.
A lot of you reading this might be thinking that we’re assholes or American
traitors. Well we may be assholes, but we’re certainly not traitors. We are actually
patriots in the true sense of the word. We are the ones calling attention to the
faults of our government and trying to fix them. We are the ones trying to explore
mistakes, in order to learn from them instead of covering them up. We are the
ones who have concern for more than just ourselves. We are the ones trying to
educate people. We are the ones who question authority instead of simply
obeying it. We are the ones who are patriotic... FUCK THAT! Did I just say that?
Let’s go back. Patriotism is a little too close to nationalism. Or is it the same thing?
Either way, we are fucking better than Patriots. We are world patriots. Not only do
we care about our own country, we care about the whole fucking planet. We are
human beings with the capability to care for more than just ourselves. So let’s use
that capability. It’s not enough to simply think locally, or nationally, we must think
globally.
Americans are so confused with their own personal safety that they’ve
turned their backs on this country and this planet. They put an American flag on
their SUB and figure they’ve ddone their part. They’re more concerned with their
feardoms than their freedoms (Hey, that’s pretty good!) So let’s stop with the “We
are #1!” Bullshit. America is NOT #1. We’re more like #11, or #12. For the 91% of
Americans who haven’t traveled outside this country (Such as George W. before
he was “elected”), there are several countries that are arguably better than this
one. I would put Australia, Canada, Sweden, Holland, and Denmark on the top of
the list. Some of these countries have all the freedoms the US has plus a whole lot
more or ‘em (prostitution, socialized medicine, euthanasia, gay marriage, legalized
recreational drugs, gay military enlistment, abolishment of death penalty, ETC.)
Don’t get me wrong, # 12 is still pretty damn good out of more than 250 countries,
but there’s still a lot more room for improvement. That’s what this is really all about:
positive change. We don’t want to bash America, we want to make it better. In
order to make it better, you must first point out what is wrong with it. Well, WE got
a big pointing stick and we’re aiming tight for the eye. We’re looking to poke that
sucker right our of it’s socket.

union_tumbleweed (May 8, 2003)

"you said Good ridddance as having political based lyrics but most of it it hardcore EMO @!@!@!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Final interjection, I promise.

Oh, and if you don't like my review, find it factually inaccurate, or think someone would benefit from a different point of view, why don't you go write your own review instead of trying to make me look like an idiot? It is, after all, just an opinion. I mean, you're free to disagree with me, but comments like this:

"Gee I wonder what this cd sounds like? Hmm. I wonder if this cd sounds like every other nofx record ever recorded? Hmm. I wonder since it’s not as good as punk in drublic, maybe I should just go buy that? Someone please review more cds! I am just an empty shell and I need to fill myself with others thoughts. I can't think for myself! Please let me know what cds to like! AHHHH
Haha
twat"

just seem a tad unjustified. I mean, if you really feel that album reviews are a shitty media for discovering music, and if you really don't care about someone else's opinion, why are you here, reading reviews and trying to belittle the author to make yourself seem superior to little old me?

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

Did anybody see when that dude on American Idol sang Don't Call Me White? It was great.

thriceequalsgod (May 8, 2003)

to the fag who says someone buys cds cause they dont have friends to copy them from... i cant tell if your joking or not, if you are, let this go, if you arent, youre an asshole who doesn't know anything about how much time and effort goes into making these songs...

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

nofx anti flag and good riddance being just a few more well known examples

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

"Anyone can write better lyrics than Anti Flag... They're a bunch of fucking hippies they make stupid music...
They suck..."

You suck...You know why?
Because you don't realize that anyone who openly has an opinion, a positive helpful opinion on anything is helping. How in the fucking green earth is that a bad thing? Please explain that to me. The US is filled with fucking morons, a lot of whom don't even know how to spell let alone understand a complex statement or essay. And there are a few people (NOFX, Anti Flag, Good Riddance) who put it in a way where the common person can understand what the fuck they are talking about. That is making a much bigger difference than a bunch of elitist hogs using superfluous language to impress their supposed peers. You aren't helping they are because they are getting through to the people who need to make a change. So just shut up until you learn to make a positive change directly to the problem.

I hate people who only use the internet as a means to complain about people who can do things better than them.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

let's be real, that social d cd was originally supposed to come out in 99 or 2000...I have no reason to believe it will come out this year, other than pure hope. -bigjerk

FortyMinutesWest (May 8, 2003)

Ethnocentrism rocks!

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

Fuck Americans. You the most ungrateful country people in world. You have it all so well, but all you do is hate (your governments,others,music). Your generation is major failure and lazy. That is why most doctors are not American. I cannot believe how disgraceful you all are. Stay in your safe country and keep your ways to yourself. You not last a day in the outside world, yes one exists outside your most pathetic nation.
p.s. English is 3rd language for me so go ahead and insult grammar, how well is your Russian, that's I thought!

Russian Alex

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

For the dude who says he likes to buy his cd's. That just means you have no friends to burn from. Let it go.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

Not you again.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

Gee I wonder what this cd sounds like? Hmm. I wonder if this cd sounds like every other nofx record ever recorded? Hmm. I wonder since it’s not as good as punk in drublic, maybe I should just go buy that? Someone please review more cds! I am just an empty shell and I need to fill myself with others thoughts. I can't think for myself! Please let me know what cds to like! AHHHH
Haha
twat

FortyMinutesWest (May 8, 2003)

Bane rules, alot of people talk shit about them because Chad wore their shirt in a video(not referring to the person below me). People think that Bane is popular because of that video, it's asinine.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

"Does Bane suck because the guitar playing in New Found Glory wore their shirt in that video?"

Yes it does sir, but they sucked long before that video was made anyways

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

I hate you bigjerk. Go to hell and DIE!

-sickboi

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

The new social d will not come out this year, and you heard that here 1st. - bigjerk

TheOneTrueBill (May 8, 2003)

i just put in an order on Amazon.com for the new DBL. i couldn't find it anywhere else, and i was pissed. can't wait for it to come.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

aaarrrggg i cant see it anymore, there are two groups of people on this board who totally suck ass.

1.the ones that say NOFX is god and dont you dare to say any any aaaanything negative about them or its album.

2.the ones who only say fatmike is a sellout, liar, nofx is stupid, blablalba, without really knowing the songs or the albums. these are the worst ones in my oppinion.

ok here is what i have to say about this album:
-great album, great punk rock, and yes i like NOFX (but i dont love them to death)
-album of hte year? no. why? i heard the rise against album, and thats at the moment at my no.1, maybe that will change later this year, but nofx didnt make it, sorry, next time better luck.

on another note, the new DOWN BY LAW album is also already released, but i dont see any review and i couldnt get it yet at my cd store, or in hte internet, so if anyone has listened to it, give an impression please!

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

HYPOCRITES!!!!!
FUCK THAT!!!!!

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

u cant gyp nofx cos ur sorry ass licking cunt head u could not make good music and u could writ lyrics go listen 2 good fucking charlotte u ass hole if u wana gyp nofx, the fucking punk masters. give me a betta fucking band!!!! u cant!!!! kiss my mutherfucking ass

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

sounds like nofx? what were you waiting for ? it's a nofx album, and why change styles when they make great music in their style ? you suck

TheOneTrueBill (May 8, 2003)

don't forget DKM, Unseen, Sick of It All, Bouncing Souls too. Plus the already release gems from Swingin' Utters, AFI, and Pistol Grip.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

"No one should even utter the phrase "album of the year" until the new Radiohead comes out. Am I right? - bigjerk"

Nah, because I'm eagerly awaiting the new Metallica, Suicide Machines, Rancid, Thursday and Social D albums.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

Not sure, but I think it is funny that everyone calls Bush an idiot, that he is a moron, and follows it up with astute comments like..he sucks dick, he is a fag.
Bush is ruining the earth, no doubt about that, and we need him to be voted out of office before he goes too far but if you are going to attack him on an intellectual level, please, please don't resort to gay bashing and third grade insults.

anyway, NOFX whether you like them or not, you must give them some sort of respect , as they are at least trying to make young kids think about how they can make changes in the government and standing up for what they believe in... sihfisehise shit, a typo as I fell off my soapbox...

ack

FortyMinutesWest (May 8, 2003)

Anti-Flag never ceases to amaze me. They're bunch of rich kids with broad lyrics that don't say much of anything. What's even more amazing is that they've somehow developed British accents while growing up in Pittsburgh.

fakesmile (May 8, 2003)

"his political lyrics don't stand up to those of Propagandhi, Good Riddance, or Anti-Flag. "

Anyone can write better lyrics than Anti Flag... They're a bunch of fucking hippies they make stupid music...
They suck...

fakesmile (May 8, 2003)

"No one should even utter the phrase "album of the year" until the new Radiohead comes out. Am I right? - "

no fucking way...
what about the new Social D. you ass????

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

No one should even utter the phrase "album of the year" until the new Radiohead comes out. Am I right? - bigjerk

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

The only complaint I have about this record is that they released too many songs before the actual album was out. Mattersville, irrationality, franco unamerican, idiots are taking over, and mediocore. I think I would have liked the album better if I hadn't heard those songs, they are all awesome songs. Next album i'm waiting.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

I liked this album the first time through, I was sick of it by the second. It's still an okay album, there is just nothing new.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

dude this album is fucking cool...why is it that you feel it nessecary to compare Nofx to other bands political lyrics...Nofx is not a polictikill punk band they are fucking just releasing shit like they always have thats how they became who they are. they are just getting their message across and you said Good ridddance as having political based lyrics but most of it it hardcore EMO@!@!@! (not saying good riddance suck they fucking rock) but you can't compare bands that amke different types of music...see i agreed with alot you were saying but the compare bit....i wasnt sure what was gonna happen after pump up the valiuum but this fucking suprised me i love this album its gone staright to the top of my fav albums...think before you compare!

SELLOUT

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

FAT MIKE IS A JIVE-TALKIN' JIBBA-JABBERIN' MOFO!

- Mr. T

The world needs more guys like Mr. T.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

The first song on this album is really, really good.

I like the second one more. :

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

At least they let Sandin do more than Doot Doot DAT this time around. But I still don't like the production since SLATFATS. Maybe too polished.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

Best album of the year so far? Top 3 of the entire year? I think you're giving NoFx far too much credit. Not saying it isn't a bad album but jesus, it doesn't even hold a candle to the new Rise Against and anyone who own the album can agree. It's NoFx... Good punk rock buy nothing amazing, as they have always been (minus The Decline)Sure, NoFx are legends in punk rock but doesn't mean the new album is amazing. Decent at best, the same we've heard in the past but DEFINETLY not the best of the year so far and DEFINETLY not going to be one of the top records of the year....
www.nothingtoprovepunk.com

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

This is completely unrelated, but I just heard the new pennywise song "Holiday In The Sun" on IRC, the unreleased BR as well. The PW track is good, if you're a fan of the band....but it's nothing special. Don't get me wrong, it's a good track....just not a very groundbreaking one.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

Excellent Album. It definately exceeded my expectations. However, I shouldn't be suprised. Fat Mike is a genious. I hate reading comments on this site pertaining to NOFX's "lack of Progression." What a load of B.S. Every NOFX song has its own identity, regardless of the similarities it may share with some their other material. Fat Mike has done his best to keep a fading scene real and special. How can anyone knock that? He's absolutly correct in asserting that there are too many cookie cutter bands (you know whom I am speaking of NFG, Good Charlotte, Sum 41,ect..) writing mediocre love songs.

Anonymous (May 8, 2003)

The moron in Sugar Ray digs the Circle Jerks....does that make the Circle Jerks suck? No. You Twats.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

"NOFX is officially lame since Avril Lavigne has done interviews wearing a NOFX stocking cap."

hahaha

Haha, that was the only comment on this whole message board that was worth a read. It was funny.

NOFX still kicks ass though. New album rocks.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

I just realized something...

There is utterly no way for NOFX to do that would ever impress you jaded people...so why complain shu your fuck too loud mouths and let the people who are still excited by punk rock come on and get down with thier not desensitized selves

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

"TO THE POST BELOW(WAY BELOW)THAT STATED"ALBUM OF THE YEAR"..YOU NEED TO GET OUT MORE AND STOP CALLING THIS MALL SHITE ALBUM OF THE YEAR.MAYBE YOU NEED TO START GOING TO REAL SHOWS INSTEAD OF THE MALLS FOR YOUR "PUNK" MUSIC-OLDPUNKER-"

have you even heard any of the lyrics of this album? I'm guessing not. How dare you judge an album that you haven't really heard. kiss my fucking ass you stupid unwashed mohican. Bands aren't going to stick to out of tune three chord screaming cause idiots like you support that idea.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

nofx rules!

it's a pitty that this album will be released here (Brazil) only in December... So i think i'll have to download it.... hahahahhaa

I didn't listen to this album yet, but i'm sure it'll be at least good... I trust in Fat Mike... The only thing i don't like are some ska tunes in their albums, but it's ok since they put out some hardcore in every album....

Hey.... I also hope someday they come to brazil to make some shows....

See ya!!!!

NOFXPunkLTJ22 (May 7, 2003)

Who is the ass that said buying cds is for sellouts? They work there whole life to put out music spending tons of money to make cds, go into studios (not saying nofx, they make tons of money) but some bands you listen to dont have that much money. Why would you say buying cds are for sellouts? When you play in your own band you realize that buying cds are not for sellouts its to support the band so they can continue to make music while living in a house and touring and stuff. Do you know that only the headlining band on a tour gets paid, unless there are two? So the band has to PAY for tour buses and stuff to go on tour. Most punk bands you listen to dont make much money unless your obsessed with good charlotte and crap. So don't say buying CDs is for sellouts. If you had a band, recorded a cd for quite a bit of money, made tons of copies with coverart for a lot more money, and than tried to sell it at shows i hope everyone says "yo dude buying CD's is for sellouts, ill download it" to you. Point made.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

I think this album is good.Not anything ground breaking but still good.Gets better with each listen.Way better than P.U.T.V, to me their weakest release.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Mad Caddies do not have a sax player. The album credits Ed from the Caddies on Mattersville, but I don't hear any horns on that song at all. I don't know what band the sax player on Anarchy Camp is in. SKA SKA SKA!

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

1. It's a really entertaining read to see so many people get so worked up on here. Lighten up people.

2. To the "Republicans are good, I have a Masters in Econ, hooray for me" guy: Brag somewhere else, I don't think anyone here cares. And economics classes (even graduate level) are not that hard to pass. The degree means nothing, what you're doing with it is the only thing that matters. Who knows, maybe you're a respected, well-published economist working for a major think tank in DC. If so that's great, but the degree doesn't really say anything besides: "I sat through a bunch of boring classes and studied enough to pass the exam."

And while you are singing the praises of the GOP, your supposed economics knowledge should tell you that the current administration is shaping up to be the most fiscally irresponsible one in over 30 years. Any economist worth his beans can tell you that a tax cut can help fight a recession, but you can't simultaneously let spending run out of control and create huge deficits that future generations will have to pay for. Have you looked at Bush's budget?

Never mind the fact that a tax cut focused primarily at the wealthy (whose much lower marginal propensity to consume ensures that the cut will not have as much stimulative effect as desired) causes the current taxation system to become more regressive, penalizing the middle class by placing a larger burden on them through the sales tax. Sure, the dividend tax might be double taxation if you want to split hairs, but we need some form of income redistribution to protect the lower class from the wealthy. If we can afford to provide medical care and schools for the Iraqis, why can't we provide the same thing for our own people? How about raising taxes on the wealthiest 10% to fund a health care program for all the people trying to raise a family on $10/hour? Somebody has to work those jobs, why shouldn't they be able to support their families? But I guess that wouldn't win GW too many votes in '04.

Hmm, maybe I should take my own advice from up above.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Fat mike is a jive-talkin' jibba-jabberin' mofo!

- mr. T

lieutenant (May 7, 2003)

I might pick up the album. I might not. I used to have the word NOFX duct taped to my wall so I kind of owe it to the band.

All I know right now is, the synth in Franco-Unamerican is just so charming. I can't listening to it.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

The problem is that not enough people actually take a look at Bush and what he and his party of religious zealots want to do to the world. Anybody who claims to be "punk", but supports a person like Bush simply doesn't think or question very much.....most likely a high school waqnnabe "punk" from suburbia who still lives at home close with mommy and daddy.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

republicans suck. its true. whatever you do, don't get your information from fox news. that is all for now.
also, democrats aren't that great either. some kid said something about "all punks turning democrat" and i would just like to say that democrats are the lesser crappy. that is all for now. republicans are a bunch of ken lays who want to chop up alaska and kill our children, yup

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

"Does anyone else here the blatant Mad Caddies rip-off in one of the songs?"- someone earlier

its because one of the guys in the mad caddies played sax on anarchy camp
theres like 5 bad songs on this album, the rest are really good.
the first song is totally the best. also, this is not "mall punk", so please leave that label for bands like good charlotte, new found glory and now less than jake.
adios!

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Ok, this is a response to the guy way the fuck down below who said that NOFX sucks 'cause Avril did an interview with a NOFX hat on: You're an idiot. Does Bane suck because the guitar playing in New Found Glory wore their shirt in that video? Does Rancid suck because that dude in Good Charlote has a Rancid sticker on his guitar? Do the Decendents suck because Blink 182 has said they like them? Don't be a dumbass.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

good record, why's everyone talking shiznit? waaay better than valuum. She's Nubs! - bigjerk

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

The album is average at best.
The best song on the record is the Seperation of Church and Skate(Track 1).
The greatest line on the entire record hails from Mattersville "At the end of my cul-de-sac Davey Havoks' house is painted black." That is just classic.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

i agree with mr. weasel, on some comment way down there. He's right. Our scene constantly destroys bands for *gasp* progressing. I love it when bands change it up a bit. Yeah, it sucks that there might be a couple cd's that you really love by a band, which sound similar, then a few you merely like. But from being in bands as long as I can remember, change is what keeps music interesting. So, everyone, please, lets stop beating bands into the ground! that's how we lose them, and make ourselves look like the bunch of close-minded fucks we often are.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

::whistling sound....bomb exploding...total silence::

sickboi (May 7, 2003)

Overweight? Actually, I weight like 135 soaking wet, I'm pretty boney. And about the dog at the lake, man, I told you nothing happened, you mom drank most of the beer, but we couldn't keep him erect long enough to hump your mom. Quit buggin me about it.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Anybody wanna hear Bad Religion's "Who We Are" right now??? Go to www.bad-religion.net and they have it in their media section, it's a cool song about mankind. They have a shitload of other rare tracks as well. I got it as an email from BR themselves, so I'm, sure it's the band's choice. Check it out.

thriceequalsgod (May 7, 2003)

im going with scott.. the first song on this cd is really fucking good.. as are irrationality of rationality, idiots are taking over, franco un-american and all the others are pretty good... the thing about this album. you listen and not once do you say to yourself "wow this song really sucks". all the songs are decent at least and some are really good..

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

the kid that said he had an masters in economics...that's cute that you said that kid. if you have a masters you have to be at least 24 and you're still responding to stuff on this. that's pathetic. good one kid

Jon_the_Skafather (May 7, 2003)

"I can't believe you guys have burned me like 100 times for saying that NOFX sounds like NOFX, and yet you haven't touched the Ozzy comment...."

i think that's cause no one has a clue what the hell you're talking about with the ozzy comment. and i don't have a problem with you saying they sound like nofx, i have a problem with you miscategorizing songs and sounding like you put no effort into the review. if you listened to the cd and actually listened to the lyrics; the way you categorized some of the songs was just so far off base from what they're like that it gave me the impression that you hadn't even really listened to the whole cd but skipped around and listened to only a couple songs all the way through.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

"You realize there's a difference between ska and reggae right? The stuff on this album isn's ska." -- Hate to break it to you but Anarchy Camp is Ska, not Reggae. Jesus Christ...go buy some fucking Wailers and learn what Reggae is before posting something like that.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Sickboi, such a cool name like Skaterboi. Don't talk such smack cuz everyone who knows you knows that you're just an overwieght kid with an eating disorder who talks smack on the net. And don't think everyone in highschool forgot about what you did with that dog at the keg party at the lake,,,,you fucker,,,you make me Sick...boi

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

the more me listens, the more me likes....once again a fine album by the most commented on punk band in internet history...well done NOFX, play on

maverick (May 7, 2003)

The first song on this album is really, really good.

-Scott

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

i'm neither a republican, nor do i have a masters in econ, but the fact is, is that it's a bretty unbiased subject, it tells you how the economy works, the tools that the Fed uses to change our economy may be biased

oh yeah and fuck nofx haters
go listen to good charlotte

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

vintage doesn't mean mass-produced old-fashioned looking shirts you cunts

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

On that note, has anyone checked the link to that vintage t-shirt site? $25!?!?!?!?!?! What kind of bullshit is that? I hope their online store has an online fire, damn economic rapists...

-sickboi

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

it's funny to hear people who talk about NOFX sounding the same and then see these people listen to the "diverse" taste they stand by with such unique fasions as vintage shirts and trucker hats covering helmets of shitty mop-hair. shut the fuck up fuckers. keep wearing your studded belts thqat you think nobody else wears. i hope NOFX sounds the same for the rest of their existance! at least they can continue to consistantly create creative and great songs without having to change their sound.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

To the cock-ass with the masters in ECON, that means absolutely shite, except for the fact that you are attentive and can easily digest bullshit theories devised by who? Old-rich-white-republicans, as a means to keep their money. I'd like to wipe my ass with the PPF.

-sickboi

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

NOFX is officially lame since Avril Lavigne has done interviews wearing a NOFX stocking cap.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

republicans suck, you're an ass

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

I don't think most people could tell the difference between this NOFX album and the last one either.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

I don't think most people here could tell you the difference between the political parties besides punks "are suppose to be Democrats", and rich people "are suppose to be Republican"

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

I made the Republican statement, and my masters degree in Economics seems to think I know what I'm talking about. But I'm sure you could explain the economic woes of this country brilliantly...so go ahead. And don't bother listening to your new NOFX cd for insight. So hurry up and go check on the net for a comeback and ask your mom to explain what the big words mean and reply. I'm ready, unfortunately I'm expecting a comment like "republicans suck, you're an ass" and that's all!

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

This album is great, this is a fierce come back from valuum. its not a punk in drublic nothing ever will be but i like it. if you like this album listen to more Propaghandi and enjoy

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

You realize there's a difference between ska and reggae right? The stuff on this album isn's ska.

fakesmile (May 7, 2003)

This album is better than I expected...

Anarchy Camp starts with a Sax-solo that reminds me of Runaround Sue by Dion, which is one of the greatest rock nroll songs of all time...
Because of that this album get an extra point....

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Excellent, way better than valluum.......someone said that buying cd is for sellouts...what a goddamn stupid dumbshit motherfucker dumbass...if anyone buy it, punk industry will die....punks not dead so buy records and support the punk scene and independant record stores!!!

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

some kid said "republicans are good" and gave shit reasons for it. you know nothing about the economy or politics jerk. so fucking look into what you're talking about rather than just hearing it on fox news and then putting it on this website.

union_tumbleweed (May 7, 2003)

By the way, I am the guy who posted the review.

Flame on!

union_tumbleweed (May 7, 2003)

I can't believe you guys have burned me like 100 times for saying that NOFX sounds like NOFX, and yet you haven't touched the Ozzy comment....

Anyway, it's not meant to be a bad thing. The Ramones were the Ramones because they sounded like the Ramones. Same deal here. I like NOFX. It's just my opinion that they have done a little more creative work before, especially in their harmonies and choruses. Fuck no, I don't want them to "progress." That's what Strung Out is for ;)

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Hearing Fat Mike simply mention the "This is Boston, Not LA!" CD is one best things i have ever heard! And i though i was the only one who had a copy. Its great! As for WOE, its better than i though it was going to be. Its got a lot more energy on the fast songs and stuff, but if you dont like NOFX, i highly dought that this is going to change your few of them. BOSTON!-SaYnE_GuY

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

really good cd, a lot better than what i had expected.. i heard some of the songs and they just did not click w/ me, but when i bought the cd, they just went together. another thing: i just read every comment, and the first 30 comments were all of the sellout/changing their music comments, then the rest, or most of the rest were the same exact thing being said OVER AND OVER again... "you want them to change their sound, but not sell out" so i think we got enough of those posts...

- thriceequalsgod

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Most punks are just ignorant. You're stupidity makes the rest of us look bad.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

this albums rawks.
makes me wish nofx were putting out albums more often.

if you haven't bought the cd, do yourself a favour and buy it today. a must have.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Punks are so fucking stupid. If a band does change you stupid fucking morons call them sellouts. If a band does not change you say they have no tallent. All you do is bitch. "Play faster, scream louder and don't ever get played on the radio." You fucks are the guys that destroy good bands.
-Mr Weasel

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

Who cares?? its just music. NOFX has been around almost as long as most of thier fans..they can do whatever the hell they want..just put the cd on and rock out..its that simple.

casualty (May 7, 2003)

why the fuck is everyone bitchin so much? nofx ain't gonna change their style if they play another 20 years, and why should they? also, when did one band's political banter become more "credible" than the other? punk rock was MADE to rip on the state of the union whether that be eloquently or flat out brash...it's up to you what you do with it. get a clue.

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

compared to older nofx, this album is pretty good, but not great, but when compared to the pussy bands like good charlotte, simple plan, and new found glory that nofx blatently calls out on "the separation of church and skate" and "medio-core" its fucking amazing, i'm going back to the "oldies" fuck all these new bands that are way over hyped

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

The only two nofx albums I dont like are maximum rock n roll and liberal animation. So yes that means I do liek heavy petting zoo and pump up the valuum.
Which I guess makes me not punk enough to come to this site anymore since I think their more "punk" albums were complete shit and the ones everyone else loves to hate were good.

vien (May 6, 2003)

Personally I like Mike's basslines alot. The intro to "Idiots Are Taking Over" is pretty cool, I've been playing it ever since I first heard it, kind of reminds me of the "Decline" almost. Musically, he still comes up with some good shit, so I'm defintely getting this album.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

this album has no longevity. try listening to this shit one year from now. actually, try listening to this shit now, it sucks already

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

My favorite hobby is spurting.

No wait, splurting.

No, spurting was right.

vien (May 6, 2003)

"Splurging". sorry.

TheChief (May 6, 2003)

Great band. Great album. Not passed their prime. Better than most bands in their prime. Lyrical content better than ever. Why should they write about different subjects just because some of their fans or bored?? They are doing this for themselves, not you.

vien (May 6, 2003)

I like buying cds, and records. My favorite hobby is spurging.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

"Everyone on here is saying how they'll be buying this album and shit. Who the fuck still buys cd's. I've either downloaded or copied almost every cd I've had in the last 2yrs., to the point where I don't even have time to listen to them all. Buying cd's is for sellouts."

you should never be allowed to listen to music again.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

"Republicans should be thrown into South Central or Central Africa for a day, I'm sure they'd return either born again liberals or in body bags. Bush should be the first to go, since he "knows so much about what the people need". You little rich, silver spoon fed, suburban "punks" make me wanna puke. Go back to listening to Britney Spears or Linkin Park or whatever trash you listen to. Twats."

And bleeding heart democrats should be thrown into China, Cuba, or heck, Iraq for a day. You'll call come back singing the praise of the democratic capitalist system.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Republicans should be thrown into South Central or Central Africa for a day, I'm sure they'd return either born again liberals or in body bags. Bush should be the first to go, since he "knows so much about what the people need". You little rich, silver spoon fed, suburban "punks" make me wanna puke. Go back to listening to Britney Spears or Linkin Park or whatever trash you listen to. Twats.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

or maybe buying cds is for people that like to support artists? I love downloading music as much as anybody, hell I've got 20gb of the stuff, but once in a while, a cd comes along that's worth buying.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

correction. jealous again is a BADASS Black Flag album.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Everyone on here is saying how they'll be buying this album and shit. Who the fuck still buys cd's. I've either downloaded or copied almost every cd I've had in the last 2yrs., to the point where I don't even have time to listen to them all. Buying cd's is for sellouts.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

jealous again is a Black Flag album

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Republicans are OK. Bush did win the election, and quit bitching if you don't like it, you most likely didn't vote anyway. Abortion will be made illegal...(which is good), and divedends should not be double taxed.

Jon_the_Skafather (May 6, 2003)

"Its now the time to analyse every single song....but seriously do you think the song we got to jealous again was written about erin and can someone exclain me the meaning of jealous in the title."

i'm not positive but i think that fatty means an album called "jealous again." the song consists alot of mentioning punk albums they both have. so they have two peace through vandalism's and they have two jealous again's. make sense?

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

youre right man, thanks for the advice
--fat mike

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

1.for a punkrock album this is an excellent one, not many good albums released recently. its an album you can proudly turn the volume to full.

2.for a NOFX album its among their top albums, but not their best, yes, if you want an superb excellent album you gotta add something new to it, or fresh. this album is great solid work, but not something you will say it makes you go crazy and you want to listen to it every hour.

3.great review, even when you disagree with some points, like i do

4.yes it was a misstake to prerelease so many songs of that album, takes away the surprises... next time think about that fat mike, if you care so much about credibility, dont release an ep that contains 4 songs from the album already, its a rip off, sorry to say that

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

We're putting phone numbers up now? What is this, fucking Buddyhead?

-sickboi

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Its now the time to analyse every single song....but seriously do you think the song we got to jealous again was written about erin and can someone exclain me the meaning of jealous in the title.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

'just phone 519-284-1095 and ask for graham, ill be happy to discuss how much NOFX sucks.
try listening to some real punk rock like blink 182 and good charlotte
NOFX SUCKS COCK'

i just called and your mom said she wanted my dick.

mik88 (May 6, 2003)

Why trash this album? You knew what you were buying when saw NOFX on the album sleeve. They have their own sound, so what made you think that it would be any different this time around? If you like it, buy it, if you don't like it, then save your money. Either way, you should get off your computers and do something besides shoot off on the internet.
mik88

inagreendase (May 6, 2003)

with pump up the valuum its really hit or miss, either you think it sucked or you think its one of nofx's top 3

an obvious point but some people need it pointed out

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

you mean medio-core at best

inagreendase

cactussac (May 6, 2003)

first of all this was a pretty good review of the album and it says about what i would have said as well after listening to it over 20 times by now...

the album is good, but its nothing new really.. it has good moments but no tracks where i said HOLY SHIT LETS GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THAT (other than Church and Skate) there is also the problem that nofx released like 1/2 of this album on ep's or comps before the album even dropped.

mediocre at best.

RaNcIdPuNx (May 6, 2003)

This CD sounds alot like pump up the valium to me but its still realy good. Its funny and yet serious at the same time. Thats amazing. Also, there is nothing beter then the cover of this CD.

-RaNcId PuNx

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

How many reviews do you check before posting them, cause once again some fuckin moron has posted another stupid review

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I just listened to this and was taken aback at how average it was.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

NOFX is the worst band ever they suck big fat donkey dick .....u guys are all fuckin stupid .....if you have any problems with this review ill be happy to discuss it with you.
just phone 519-284-1095 and ask for graham, ill be happy to discuss how much NOFX sucks.
try listening to some real punk rock like blink 182 and good charlotte
NOFX SUCKS COCK

TheOneTrueBill (May 6, 2003)

too much looking back at Punk rock. other than that, it's great

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Album of The Year- Good Mourning/and the new Thrice is gonna be A M A Z I N G.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Blah, Blah, Blah........"these guys suck, thier albums all sound the same", That comming from the same people, who if the album was competely different would say, "These guys are sellouts, just changing thier style to make $"......Blah, Blah, Blah.......NOFX is good, old and at times a little confused. This album is OK, but not great.

GregSka (May 6, 2003)

Yeah I'm glad they started playing ska again too. White Trash and Punk in Drublic were my favourite albums

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I have a theory: ALMOST all bands only have two good albums in them. Everything else is either the build up or the inevitable collapse.

Beverage

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

hey man, people bought Dave Matthews tickets for 50 bucks and sold them for over 600 when he came to my school this year. They also sold 50 Cent tickets that cost 8 bucks for around 75.

It's not a bad idea.

vien (May 6, 2003)

Hey Wuss, are you one of those guys who buys tickets from other bands, and sell them on ebay for shit loads of money? Jerk.

NOFXPunkLTJ22 (May 6, 2003)

This CD is great. What are you all talking about it sounds to similar? It doesnt at all. With the addition to an organ, keys, and whatever else they used, this cd is definitely different from their last. Than they have classic NOFX songs. Thats their style, why would they change or sell out?

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Yeah No effects back with the typical punkmix, i prefer her other cd´s but the new one is good to, 9 out of 10 points for that new shit... respect NOFX ur so old but still so punk =;)

greg0rb (May 6, 2003)

You stole my friend's nickname... well actually his is just one word, but still.
If this album had a lot more songs like medio-core (meaning not in the standard NOFX style) this album would probably be really good, like Heavy Petting Zoo (best NOFX album). I'll still have to check this out, I've only heard the ep teaser.
-Greg

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

i thought Pump up the valuum sucked...

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

NOFX has been sounding the same since "White Trash...", which even then was only slightly different from "Ribbed" (the addition of El Hefe helped). Don't see the point of listen to this latest one...

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Uhh Old Punker like sucks and stuff. Old people suck. They're like old and stupid or something. I bet he's limp. Huh huh huh. Get your old ass off my website dumbass before I kick you in the nads!!!! Shouldn't you be busy pooping your pants. Huh huh huh poop. Poop is cool.....What was I talking about? Oh yeah, old people suck. Wait a minute. NOFX is like old or something. But they're cool because they talk about bush. Huh huh huh bush huh huh huh. Someone told me there is a picture of bush on the album cover. There is no bush on my cover. There is just some picture of some dumb ass. I got ripped off. This sucks.....uh..........There is some dude named Wuss Emo Rock. What a dumb ass. He like sold his tickets to the concert or something. Someone should kick his ass. Get this bunghole off my website. That dude that turned sixteen is pretty stupid to. He doesn't have time to listen to NOFX because he is too busy spanking the monkey. Huh huh huh Go spank your monkey at some other website bunghole. Don't make me kick your ass!!!.........uhh..........uhh...........This sucks. I'm going to go pick up some chicks or something. Huh huh huh I'm going to score!!!
-BUTTHEAD

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

So if a band doesn't change their sound they suck? Well, NOFX tried that after Punk in Drublic with Heavy Petting Zoo And SLATFATS and alot of people consider those albums to be their worst. So why is returnig to a style that works such a bad thing, cause its not as if every song sounds the same althought she style may be similar. As for the album itself, it may not be a musical departure for the band but the feel and subject matter of the album is different which is a change after all. This may not win NOFX a leigion of new fands, but it should win a few while making the fans they've already got happy.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Great album. NOFX got me into punk when I was 13. I'm now 21 and I can't help but be interested in what they're doing as they turned me on to this whole scene. The album "rocks" and not too many bands seem to be able to do that these days.

recordings (May 6, 2003)

"I used to love NOFX. Then I turned 16. Aren't these guys almost 40 or something? Why are they playing the exact same thing they played when they were in their early 20s?"

im pretty sure you could ask bad religion or rancid the same thing. they aint exactly youngsters, but hell if they dont make good music. i dont recall there being a certain age limit to playing the music you love.

its good to see your already jumping ship at whatever age you are. heaven forfend, you wouldnt want to be 35 and still listening to punk rock. get lost.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I will be picking this up today. I've enjoyed everything they've ever put out. Liberal being the first cd I picked up by Nofx, but White Trash being my favorite. I guess I don't listen to all the "right" bands. I guess some of you are just that much cooler than the rest of us. I don't use punk as a fashion statement, I don't use punk as an excuse. It's a way of life, a thought process, counter culture.

A lot of people critisize bands for not changing their sound over the years, and then they critisize a band for changing too much. MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND! I'd like to see you start a band and then 20 years down the line release a record and have people still buy the fucking thing. Give credit where credit is due. If you listen to their first record and listen to the new one, it's a world of difference. Do you guys even understand what your talking about?

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Valuum sucked, hopefully this is a return to form, - bigjerk

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

and for people bitching that they dont' change their style.....its fucking nofx..dont' fix what aint broke, they have stood the test of time and made legions of fans w/o mtv or radio.i mean, cmon, have a heart , this shit is classic.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

oh yea, my fav's are punk in drublic and believe it or not, valuum.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

good review tumble weed. i'm picking this up today, being old school. i figured it would sound like all their other stuff, sounds cool their putting ska in again, and im actuallly relieved its not a 'full on protest album' as u had wished. my fav nofx songs have always been the funny clever ones, not the serious ones (except the decline of course). the are getting stagnant, but i hear this is probalby their last album, if not next to last, like lagwagon. fat mike isnt stupid, he knows his limits, he doesnt shit himself (figuratively) or his fans. they know they sound redundant often ('and now for something completely similar' to kick off the last album). nofx are one of those bands i never tire of, cuz no one sounds like fat mike, vocally or lyrically. sure no use the pw and bad religeon sound similar, but the pw and br seem to have gotten old alot faster to me than nofx. whatever. fart

HeyBarmold (May 6, 2003)

I don't worship this band at all. They're just a breakthrough band for me. I'm gonna buy this album. But i'm not paying more than 11 bucks for it.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

By the way...lot of poeple prefer punk in dublic and white trash....but I prefer Heavy petting zoo and So long....

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Poeple don't critisize band for changing their sound, they criticize'em when they turn out sell outs....anyway Nofx is still an excellent punk band but it's a bit redundant but still good...i like the opening of the cd...and it has a lot of good songs but nothing unexpected...so good records but doesn't top the last lagwagon or rise against....

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Wuss emo rock too bad you sold your ticket on friday because i wanted to kick your ass

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

NOFX doing the same album again? I'm shocked.

/sarcasm

treetsux (May 6, 2003)

I think too many people worship NOFX, and think anything they put out will be far superior than anything else anyone else puts out. Im not saying NOFX sucks, I enjoy them from time to time. I just think people see them as holy....I DONT. I think they could put out the Avril Lavigne album and you kids woulda thought it was the greatest thing since swiss cheese.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

its sad that all you punkers get your political info from FAT MIKE and michael moore. talk about being on the fringe of academia...(thats a bad thing)

Smartest thing I've ever read here.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

NOFX will never put out an album as good as White Trash or Punk in Drublic if only because most people had those albums as an introduction to the band. That is not to say that their newer material is poor in comparison, it's just NEW. I feel the same way I listen to any new album from a veteran punk band. Pennywise will never top Unknown Road and Bad Religion will never top the suffer, against the grain, generator era either. I don't really think that making these comparisons to albums that came out 5 releases ago is valid.

The new Nofx disc is very good. I find it to be pretty varied in song speeds and lyrical content. Sure they've done all these kind of styles before but that's what they've been doing for years. I wouldn't change a thing about them. Look how many people complain about bands changing their sound (ie. Bad Religion before Brett came back, Green Day, etc.) People would bitch if Bad Religion put out the exact same album year after year but they decided to put out absolute shit until they made their last album. Now it's like they are returning to their roots, but if they never changed then people would bitch that they keep releasing the same album over and over. Point is that it is a no win situation for criticism. I think that because NOFX will put 6 or 7 different sounding songs on an album, it prevents them from getting in that rut. NOFX developed their sound and influeneced many bands so I'm stickin' with them unless they decide to go Country.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I liked songs 1,2 and 10.

Jon_the_Skafather (May 6, 2003)

i haven't even read all of your review but i know you haven't listened to the album at all from this statement "some stuff that's pure kitsch (She's Nubs, Whoops, I OD'd)"

whoops i od'd is a serious song and not joking and if you actually listened to it and actually heard the lyrics you'd realize that and if you thought it was a funny song(or to actually go by the deffinition of kitsch, shallow), you're fucked up.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

"I used to love NOFX. Then I turned 16."

Lower your nose.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

NOFX = goood

like many people i like it how nofx keeps the same sound, shit im glad they started playig ska again.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Great NOFX record. To all of you whining about it being predictable, you're the same fuckers who bitched and bitched when Heavy Petting Zoo came out.

It's NOFX for crying out loud. They've put out how many records? Short of putting out an album of classical music, they're not going to surprise the shit outta you anytime soon. They're a punk rock band, not fucking Radiohead.

But they are going to keep making good solid records until they decide to call it a day. I think the new one is right up there with the best of 'em.

BostonMusicGuy (May 6, 2003)

I meant, "and they do it well." Damn me for forgetting proper grammar.-BostonMusicGuy

BostonMusicGuy (May 6, 2003)

It's NOFX, did you really want different, original and innovative? It's NOFX. They do what they do and they do it good.-BostonMusicGuy

fakesmile (May 6, 2003)

"anti-flag cant write political lyrics. everything ive heard (other than "tearing everyone down," sounded fucking ridiculous.
"

word. Anti-Flag stinks...

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I used to love NOFX. Then I turned 16. Aren't these guys almost 40 or something? Why are they playing the exact same thing they played when they were in their early 20s? Oh right, I forgot, being "punk" means you have to make the same album over and over and never mature. Whack.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

"Not that the music is bad; on the contrary, I quite enjoyed the record. However, I was never surprised with what came next."

Agree. I mean come on, it's Nofx, you know how it will sound like, they are far from being the most original band, but they're still good. I've been listening to them for like 9 years, even though I have hundred of records from bands a million more talented and original, there will always be a place for a new Nofx record among my collection. That may sound stupid, but they've been such a big part of my adolescence and sometimes I feel like I have to buy they're new release just to support and say thank you, even if I know it won't be as good as White Trash or Punk In drublic. WOE is not that bad anyway...

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

anti-flag cant write political lyrics. everything ive heard (other than "tearing everyone down," sounded fucking ridiculous.

eyeball_kid (May 6, 2003)

Oldpunker you managed to listen to an album you knew you were going to hate the first day it came out (or maybe even before). Respect.

eyeball_kid (May 6, 2003)

We Got Two Jealous Agains does blatantly rip off The Gentlemen by Mad Caddies. Arg.

Two word review: Pleasingly Average.

The lyrics are great, but NOFX were better when they put choruses in every song. Anyone notice that they abandoned choruses after 'So Long'?

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I don't know, I haven't heard it yet... I guess I'm not as punk rock since pre-ordering is the "punk rock" thing to do these days. Oh, and all of you are gay.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Not their best, but good shit.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

To the post below me.. My argument was that someone called this album of the year and simply put....... Its not. Please dont try to humor me again-oldpunker-

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Propagandhi comes off as arrogant?

punky (May 6, 2003)

old punker, this could be album of the year for some people.Live with it.
It doesn't have to fit into your definition of 'punk'.
For an old punker, you sure act a lot like a teenager that can't wait to diss a band because someone else likes it...

As for the album, there are some great songs on here, and while it is nothing compared to punk in drublic, or ribbon, it is still better than lets say 'pump the valuum' or even 'heavy petting zoo'.

As I look on the side of the screen for the reviews of other bands and their records...NOFX is still better than 95% of them...

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Does anyone else here the blatant Mad Caddies rip-off in one of the songs?

toma (May 6, 2003)

i like it, reminds me of slatfats

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

NOFX are the most underrated band of all time. I don't think their music is good, I do think it's magnificent. Pure genie. "War on Errorism" does not contain 14 new tracks, it contains 14 new anthems.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Wow, a 38 year old on the site, kinda dirty.

-sickboi

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Im sure this is in my top-3 for this year. Great album.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

well thanks for the reply oldpunker, each to his own. i'm quite old myself actually (38) and get to see quite a few bands (including in the last year the likes of suicidal tendencies, down by law, dri, us bombs, 4 ft fingers, subhumans... too many to mention them all). i've bought (or downloaded loads of new (and old albums) this year but i like the nofx one - maybe i'll soon get fed up of it i don't know. as i said each to his own.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

ill be picking this up today... it sounds pretty decent and i now have the money... the score is for the review

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

To the post below(way below)that stated"album of the year".. You need to get out more and stop calling this mall shite album of the year. Maybe you need to start going to real shows instead of the malls for your "punk" music-oldpunker-

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

This album doesnt sound like Pump Up The Valuum. Right now thats out the way, try actually listening to the songs NOFX write, their awesome. stop worrying about whether they're progressing, they're a punk rock band for fucks sake. fat mike knows all his songs have a simular vibe, hes admits it all the time. And whats all this crap about the subject matter getting played out, this is the first time nofx have set out to be political to this extent and the various comments by fat mike and campaigns have culminated in this album...whats the problem?!?! you werent seriously expecting NOFX to write songs as arrogantly as propagandhi were you? As you said its a NOFX album, go figure. They include important info through the video on the cd and the songs are fun and make u feel alive(like kicking bush's ass).

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Pump up the Valuum one of their best albums??? Thats a really strange comment (i thought it was generall agreed that it's one of the worst)..

That aside, I enjoyed this album. I agree with the guy below who said its good they havent changed their sound, i can guarantee more bands get BAD reviews for changing their sound than good, so its a no win situation (should bands release one album and quit??). Anyway, pretty clever lyrics (whilst not outstanding) and typical NOFX catchiness, i think i'm gonna go listen to it again now :)

turdcorn (May 6, 2003)

Nofx..............right............now that this is out of the way, will someone please review the new Turbonego and Randy. Please?

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

its sad that all you punkers get your political info from FAT MIKE and michael moore. talk about being on the fringe of academia...(thats a bad thing)

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

yeah it sounds a bit like pump up the valum but what would you say about it if they hadnt done pump up the valum its still a great album and the same nofx that its always been its a dam good album from the best

GregSka (May 6, 2003)

I cant stand it when people fault a band for not "progressing". Nothing pisses me off more when I wait forever to hear a band I like's cd just to find out they decided to try something new and it ended up sounding like shit. Props to Nofx for keeping it real, I'll be picking up this cd before summer starts

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

this album is terrific, AND FUCK G.W.BUSH! this guy suck dick!!

HeyBarmold (May 6, 2003)

If you're expecting another Punk in Drublic, they'll never make as good a record, but this isn't bad. It's not shit. I think it's pretty savage.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Just thought I'd share...for those of you in So Cal who missed Bad Religion last monthm they are playing about 4 shows in the area next week. One in fucking Agoura!?! Very strange....but cool, since I live literally 2 miles from it!

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

it's the album of the year so far.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

Wuss emo rock u are fucking lame

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

this seems like the fat mike show, too much effects on his voice plus with the exception of a melvin scream here or there, rarely any el hefe, is it me or does whoops i od'ed sound like dropped the world? whatever, i think they made the mistake of releasing 3 woe songs plus one unreleased track on the ep instead of releasing 2 woe tracks plus 2 unreleased tracks (which would've been cooler), overall, a decent releasebut nothin to crap yer pants about

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I didn't dig this record. It was far too boring and tepid. And I think you people using Fat Mikes humorous lyrics as away to bash liberals are morons. NOFX will have and always has had simple, cheezy lyrics, that doesn't mean that they aren't just humorizing an already well made point. Bands like Bad Religion can say "Fuck you bush" a thousand times better. But with NOFX the message is simple and straightforward, there's nothing wrong with it. The lyrics on this album are ok, and I dig most of Fat Mikes political views, and I hate George Bush.......but I don't like this boring album.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

'seriously, who cares? They are way past their prime, and I just sold my 2 tickets to their show on Friday because of it. Boredom is not on my list of fun.

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****'

aren't you the one who likes allister?

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I don't agree with second half of this review. I think that Pump Up The Valuum was the worst album from NOFX and WoE is back to So Long... and it's here with more clever lyrics than ever. Enough said.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

good, i hope my vinyl comes soon

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I liked it.

REALPUNX4LIFE (May 6, 2003)

Dude, George Bush is, like, dumb and stuff. He's also gay and totally not my president.

lalombriz (May 6, 2003)

shit! manic hispanic is playing at that show!

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

I like it a lot, but unlike their other albums, there aren't any memorable songs. Yeah, it sounds like NOFX, but more like one NOFX song.

WussEmoRock (May 6, 2003)

seriously, who cares? They are way past their prime, and I just sold my 2 tickets to their show on Friday because of it. Boredom is not on my list of fun.

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

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