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Bad Religion / The Casualties / Hot Potty: live in Seattlelive in Seattle (2003)
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"I know we suck, but we're better than your band," said Jay Bentley. "Unless you're in Pearl Jam." "No, even if you're Pearl Jam." Humor, something I didn't expect from Bad Religion, a normally serious band. That's not to say that they didn't deliver some seriously good music. "Kyoto Now" k.



"I know we suck, but we're better than your band," said Jay Bentley.
"Unless you're in Pearl Jam."
"No, even if you're Pearl Jam."

Humor, something I didn't expect from Bad Religion, a normally serious band.

That's not to say that they didn't deliver some seriously good music. "Kyoto Now" kicked things off well, shortly followed by "American Jesus." Other highlights included: "Modern Man", "No Control", "Suffer", and "We're Only Gonna Die." After pounding through song after song for an hour and a half, Bad Religion returned to the stage, after the usual "we don't do encores" to play "Infected", and "Fuck Armageddon, This is Hell." I would have been quite happy to end the night on that note, however, the band had something else in mind. "Sorrow." I know I should have seen it coming, but I was disappointed none the less that they chose to end their set with what I regard as one of their weaker songs. It's simply too hard to top "Fuck Armageddon" for a closer, but they tried none the less.

All in all, an excellent performance by one of the greatest punk bands. Even though from the balcony where I stood, Greg Graffin's receding hair-line made him look like an old man. But that fucker can still sing.

"We've got all kinds here: straightedge, hardcore, skins... emo, whatever the fuck you call yourself, we're all just punks." "Oh yeah, and fuck emo."

That was the Casualties contribution to the night's humor. If havn't heard the Casualties before, the words, "loud", and "fast" would best describe their brand of punk. They've got energy, and that oh so wonderful "fuck you" attitude. I have never seen a band flip off the crowd as many times as they did. The Singer's middle finger was almost constantly reaching out to the crowd. On the downside, it was hard to distinguish between songs. The songs could have all had the same chord progression, and no one would have known, or cared for that matter.

An interesting side note: Casualties fans are potheads. The instant they took the stage, joints lit up all over the room, and now my clothes are drenched with the odor of burning hemp.

The opening band, Hot Potty, was so bad, it's funny. Think weezerish power pop, with cheese metal riffs thrown in every once in a while. Actually, I take that back, I shouldn't insult weezer by comparing them to this shitty, shitty band. It's not that I don't have an appreciation for their style, but sometimes bands flat out suck. This one of those times.

I'm no fan of sparta, but I would much rather had sparta continue on this leg of the tour than these fucktards.

And who the fuck names their band "Hot Potty?" Are these guys still in seventh grade? Again, that comparison is unfair, as most seventh grade bands have a little more creativity than Hot Potty.

And who the fuck would buy a tee shirt that says "Hot Potty?" Let's pick on jr high kids for a moment again. I can picture some 12 or 13 year old kid buying a hot potty shirt out of sheer ignorance, then wearing it to school and being ridiculed by all their punk-as-fuck friends.

In the end, it was well worth the money to see Bad Religion, and the Casualties were a nice bonus. Hell, I even had fun mocking Hot Potty.

 


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Anonymous (August 10, 2003)

p.s. i'd rather be gay then anything like you internet losers

Anonymous (August 10, 2003)

freaks...

rightcliqificus (May 17, 2003)

P.S. I fucking hate people who are overly happy. Has nothing to do with sexual orientation. "gay" means, anybody who is overly flamboyant or happy, whether they be hetero or homo. I can't be blamed for society's bastardization of the word.

rightcliqificus (May 17, 2003)

Gay:

1 a : happily excited : MERRY b : keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits
2 a : BRIGHT, LIVELY b : brilliant in color
3 : given to social pleasures; also : LICENTIOUS

if you want to take a word to mean something it doesn't, go right ahead.

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

You were just making a statement? You implied that Jeremy was gay through that statement. There is nothing in any of his posts to suggest that he is homosexual, let alone that he is insecure about his sexuality. what exactly is this terribly thoughtful "statement" based on?

The fact of the matter is that you tried to make fun of him. I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve to be made fun of after carrying on like a damn fool, but his sexual orientation has nothing to do with it. You were trying to make fun of him, by insinuating that he is gay. This suggests that you find the simple fact that someone is homosexual to be an source of mirth.

As you state, calling someone gay doesn't make you homophobic. Calling someone gay with the intent of using it as an insult does raise the possibility of homophobia. Homophobia defined is, "irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals." Most people see homophobia as the simple fear of gays, when in fact the other two pieces of that definition are critical (aversion to and discrimination against). By viewing gay people as the something that is funny, as objects to ridicule and use in jokes, you display a strong aversion to them as well as an obvious discrimination against them.

How would a gay person like it if they heard you use "gay" as a derogatory term? I am quite certain that you wouldn't use it that way if a gay person was in the room with you. It's very much akin to calling someone who is poor black, or someone who is stingy with money Jewish. If you wouldn't say something when the language you're using would offend someone you're not around, you shouldn't use it when they aren't there in person.

Now where the fuck is my goddamn midget goat porn.

rightcliqificus (May 16, 2003)

Calling somebody gay doesn't make you homophobic. Don't be so close minded. I have no problem with gay people. I was just making a statement.

Hulka (May 15, 2003)

Hot Potty is Brooks Wackerman's (BR/ex-Vandals/ex-Suicidal Tendencies drummer) band.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

Well, you abviously don't have any insecurities about being homophobic. You're broadcasting it all over the internet.

rightcliqificus (May 15, 2003)

I think Jeremy is having insecurities dealing with his being gay.

FortyMinutesWest (May 15, 2003)

The kid basically walked up to Bentley and called him a sellout(not directly, but it was certainly implied). What should Jay have done? Patted the kid on the head, given his money back, and discarded the band's tour bus in favor of a shitty van?

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

i dont know man, i really dont see how the bad religion bass player could really take offence to that statement. And to get up in the kids face, thats just plain dickin. But, i still like em, or atleast there older stuff!

FortyMinutesWest (May 14, 2003)

Ok, if I'm a member of a band thats been around over 20 years and has worked hard to get where they are, and some snotty kid comes up to me and starts talking shit, I'm going to get mad too. I wish Bentley would've knocked your ass out, maybe you'd wake up with some common sense.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

guy below me: is he taking it right by getting in his face after he told him he took it wrong? this jeremy fellow said "it must be nice to be able to charge $25 a ticket and have a sold out show", so the guy theatend to fight him? is that the right thing? no. is jeremy an idiot for saying that? i dont think so. are you a flaming mountain of fag and retarded loser cumshot for calling him one? i'll answer that when i care, bastardwhore.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Jeremy: He "took it wrong"? How could he have taken it "right"? By handing you a 50 dollar bill? You are, and remain, an idiot.

FortyMinutesWest (May 14, 2003)

I don't care if the Casualties make their own clothes, or their own fucking wine, they still suck.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

a bit off topic... but i read back to where people were calling the casualties mall punks. Thats fucking hilarious. Especially since they have lived in New York City for years (their whole lives for most of them), and if any of you hicks have ever stepped foot into NYC, you'd know that there are no malls there. And even so... a mall punk is someone who listens to media drenched popular punk music... even if that music is actually punk {{Cough..NOFX..Cough}}. The casualties listen to old school. I dont see anything that makes them mall punks. They make their own clothes, they dont buy them in fucking hot topic. But then again why am i wasting my breath cause i think most of the people who go here listen to emo and pop-punk anyway. SO fuck you anyway.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I'm 17, and straight up emo. juliana theory all the way baby.
-jeremy

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Jeremy was an idiot, and he didn't have any reason to say something so stupid. But a forty year old trying to start a fight with some dumb 15 year old is ridiculous. The guy sounds like he's as dumb as the person he wants to fight.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Jeremy is a fuckhead

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

You started shit with HIM, you moron. Please fucking die.

This score is for jeremy the mallpunk.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

wow, you guys really put it into perspective there. wait, no, you guys just made yourselves sound very crude and useless. I'm sorry if the idea of an asshole starting shit with me over ticket prices isnt a big deal to you, but when it comes down to it, all i said was "it must be nice to be able to travel from one sold out show to another and have each kid there worth 25 bucks."

But he took it wrong, and when i told him he did, he got in my face and told me "You're giving giving me shit, and thats not a good idea."

have any of you ever talked to trevor of unearth (or anybody in the band for that matter...)? He is honestly the NICEST person in the world, totally down to earth. i respect him sp much. we talked for about a half an hour after i saw them with shai hulud in march and when i told him someone stole my copy of "endless" he grabbed me one. fucking greatness.

i guess it just pisses me off that this bass player took it wrong and got right in my face after i told him he did. fucking pathedic i think.

And to the smart ass who said I'm gonna not sell all my bad religion gear, you're probably right. when i went through all my stuff, the only thing i had was the all ages cd, and that rocks. screw it, i'm growing a mohawk.

-jeremy

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

One more Jeremy comment - everyone fucking knows you're not gonna sell a damn thing of BR's. You might tell us you will, you might tell your friends you are, but when it comes down to it, you're gonna sit in your room by yourself and listen to the records, because you know they're good or else you wouldn't have gone to the show. So don't come on here and act hard or talk like you're one badass kid who has his ideals straight and puts his beliefs ahead of everything. You don't. And everyone knows it.

FortyMinutesWest (May 12, 2003)

The Casualties aren't Oi, but they sure do suck.

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

Quit saying the Casualties are Oi!... It's just bull shit. I love Oi! and can tell you it doesn't sound anything like them. They are just hardcore crap, nonetheless, but I don't think half of the people that bash them has ever heard them. I know for sure that 100% who consider them Oi have never heard Oi!

And Bad Religion... awesome guys, but I must say that I don't think they're anything special. Once all of their fans from the 80's move on, they'll be up a creek.

This score is for uneducated Casualties comments.

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

Jeremy: You win the idiot-of-the-week award. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT TO ACCOMPLISH by going up and talking shit to Jay Bentley (I noticed you didn't mention his name, since you don't even know it). Did you think he would sit there, nod and then say, "You know what, you're right! How horribly selfish of me to travel the country and play punk rock for kids that love my band. I'm an ass. Here's your money back. I apologize. Oh, by they way, feel free to have sex with my wife!" Idiot.

evildeadalive (May 12, 2003)

I also agree with Jay. $25 is not a lot to charge for a band that has been playing together for over 20 years. Get over it. And what the shit did you expect him to say to you anyways? Obviously he's gonna get a little pissed off, you think just cause your some 17 year old piece of shit he should just take it? Maybe one day you'll want to make a little more than minimum wage too.

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

wow, i just went to this show in little old grand junction colorado. hmm, the casualties were pretty terrible while bad religion was pretty good.....until i talked to the biggest stuck up wannabe rock star in the world, the fucking BASS player for Bad religion.

i made some sort of comment about how it must be awesome to have a sold out show where each ticket is $25, then be able to ride in a rolling zip code of a tour bus to another sold out show. so he says to me "if you dont like the ticket prices, dont bitch about it and buy a ticket. Its fucking hypocitical."

then he gets in my face and tells me i'm "giving him shit " and "thats not a good idea on my part". Keep in mind that he is like a 40 year old man and I'm a 17 year old. So i laughed in his face and told him to go fuck himself.

I think after this i now have little to no respect for this band and plan on selling everything i own that has anything to do with this band to these mall punk kids that always hang out in front of my work.

I'm sorry, but fuck bad religion. they are NOT worth $25. its sad that this joker gets to go from town to town and preach to different kids every night after a show. its seriously sad.

-jeremy

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

ha ha ha ha ha. h a.

Anonymous (May 12, 2003)

oi oi oi, there. i wrote a cusualties song.

Burn!

sk8punx4evr (May 11, 2003)

the backwards episode of seinfeld owned. ha, spraypainted timberlands! who would have thought!!!!

Anonymous (May 11, 2003)

i forth that, and second that

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

I third that... it was nearly as bad as the name Hot Potty.

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

yeah i second that.. that was bad

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

for holy douglas's pathetic attempt at humor.

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

Bad Religion?! Bad religion?!
No, there is no such thing as bad religion (except for Catholic)!
Religion is good, kids!
Come to my church in Oklahoma, and I will show you Jesus' message!

In return, you will show me your genitalia, of course, because that's what us members of the clergy like to see and touch.

-Holy Douglas-

(God bless MxPx!)

tenderbransonx (May 10, 2003)

-BR is hillarious. They played at warp tour once in dressed like Jesus and the Easter Bunny. Oh and go easy on the reviewer shit. There's been worse than that up here. At least its more than a paragraph.
Steven www.murdertheturtle.com

rightcliqificus (May 10, 2003)

never "heard" the casualties. not "heard of"... i've heard of them. they're terrible poseur crap.

rightcliqificus (May 10, 2003)

There were these pieces of shit staff people that keep pushing me behind those windows that go by the ramps back to the lobby. This guy is like "you can't block the isle". I lean back to look at what I'm blocking. Its a 4 foot isle separating one half of the balcony from the other, and I'm hugging the wall anyway. He's like "you can find a seat in the upper balcony".. so, I say "are you fucking kidding me?".. they're all worried that kids are gonna die if one fat guy blocks 1/8th of the exit. Not look I wouldn't move to accomadate a rushing crowd being chased by a trail of fire. I was totally gonna hit the guy, but he woulda kicked me out. So, I was forced to watch bad religion through a little window from a fucked up angle. I've never heard of the casualties, but I'm familiar with all the poseurs that love them. I gave em a chance, but every song sounded the same, and their GAP issued punk clothes were pissing me off. But, I guess not everybody can wear plaid golf pants like greg graffin. i saw BR there when they played with Ignite a couple years ago, and the sound was a lot better. Its not just the theatre (which is admittedly very shitty), but somebody doesn't know how to set up greg's mic levels. He sounded muffled and out of key the whole time, due to it not being leveled right. Hotty Potty was a disgrace. He was doing that retarded promise ring prancing bullshit. bad religion played good though. i kinda wish they'd play their remake of "generator" like they did at warped tour this year (they have a more advanced version of the improv they did on tested, that starts of kinda jazzy and such). They played all their songs straight, without really changing anything. Though they did do some weird shit to "do what you want", but I couldn't really tell what it was in that place. i thought it was funny that they stopped to talk for a while. They talked about how they hate the moore and aren't ever coming back. the mics were all shitty, so it was a constant struggle to translate what they were saying back to english. it was a lot of fun being in a contortionists position, pinned against a way, kinking my neck to see through the part of the window not ocuppied by a person in order to see bad religion. it was one of the worst concert experiences i've ever had. though it was my 4th time seeing them, so I guess its good to let other people have a chance.

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

dude, the casualties aren't punk

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

Well, at least the opener in Seattle wasn't the band that Avril Lavigne's old bass player started like it was in edmonton. But the other two bands more than made up for that, as they did put on a great show.

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

crappy review, enough said, next please!!!!

Anonymous (May 10, 2003)

I know this isnt a review... but i hate how people can be one sided... everyones either like "I hate the casualties, they suck, they molest children and they are mall punks," or like "The casualties rule they are the best if you dont like them you suck." Not that everyones like that, but for the most part, and those arent direct quotes- i pulled those pretty much outta my ass. Anyway, the point is that like, dont be so extreme. Like the casualties are one of my all time favorite bands, but i agree that their lyrics are pretty stupid, and somewhat fake. But i also think that its stupid to say "they spend too much time on their hair." Well they can do whatever the fuck they want, its not like its a fashion statement. Its not like you cant be in the casualties if you dont have a mohawk. I dunno i think its just stupid that everyone either hates or loves them. I mean its fucking punk rock, dont expect anything amazing, and dont obsess over it when its good. Just listen to it, thats what its there for, not so you can pick at the good and the bad. Jesus its not that big of a deal.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

This score is for the Casualties.

I'm not really into Bad Religion, I've always found them too ordinary.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

Bad Religion were one of the best sets I watched last year.
Casualties are fun to watch, but their lyrics push me away from listening to their music. "We're punks" in pretty much every song just doesn't quite do it for me.
Hot Potty is terrible, I don't care who's in it. Just bad.

FatTony (May 9, 2003)

I wanted to go to this show until I found out it was at The Moore. I hate that fucking place. I vow to never go back there again.

Oh yeah, worst fucking review ever!

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

What a terrible fucking review. You ought to be ashamed.

First of all, the reason Hot Potty played was because it's Brooks Wackerman's band. Yes, that was him prancing around, playing guitar and trying to be a rock star. And yes, they were pretty bad. But it was hard to tell how much of that was because of the shitty sound at the Moore, how much of it was because the crowd got sick of them and the sentiment spread, or how much of it was actual suckiness. It's interesting to note that the other two guys in Hot Potty (fuck, that's a terrible name, but not enough to review a concert on) are also in Pulley. I think if they had played more fast songs and fewer of those lame power ballads, they would have been better received.

The Casualties were pretty lame. But how much of that had to do with the venue? How stupid is it to have these guys with 10-inch blues mohawks screaming about riots and anarchy while two thousand bored 20-somethings SIT IN CHAIRS watching. I think they sold the most t-shirts, though. But that's just because their shirts look like Exploited shirts, and the kiddies love to look hardcore at school.

The best thing about the Casualties was the fact that they gave a fuck about their real fans. There were about 5-10 kids that knew all the words up at the front of the stage. After they played, the band came out and talked to those kids for about 10-15 minutes. That's fucking rad, and makes me think that they're more than just mall-grown rockstars.

BR was amazing, of course. Nuff' said. But did anyone else notice that at least half of the audience was singing along, word for word. BR shows are getting to be like cult meetings. Pretty cool when the audience drowns out Greg Graffin. Oh, and I think the choice of Sorrow for a closing song was just fine. It *is* a pretty weak song, but it's also extremely fitting and relevant, given the current happenings in the world.

In sum: The Moore is a ridiculous place for a punk show. Having kids throw away their chains to get into a punk show is fucked up. Greg Graffin rules, Greg Hetson is a gnome, Jay Bentley was the happiest mutherfucker I've ever seen that night, Brian Baker looks like a hobo, and Brooks Wackerman cried himself to sleep the night of the concert.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

you dumbasses obviously dont know who hot potty is, Its brooks wackerman the drummer from bad religion, and tyler from pulleys side project.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

bad religion has always been a funny band. jay can be hilarious on stage. just cuz their music is serious doesn't men they aren't

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

casualties are fun to watch but theyre kinda dickheads...

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

I like the backwards review. Reminds me of that weird episode of Seinfeld.....

Oh, quit bitching about the chronic.

-sickboi

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

dude i dont know hot potty and i dont care really, although i think brooks is the drummer in it too.

anyway 1/3 of your review is about Hot Potty, but only one sentece is about their music "The opening band, Hot Potty, was so bad, it's funny. Think weezerish power pop, with cheese metal riffs thrown in every once in a while."

the rest is about their name (!!?!?!?!). common, thats not a review, thats just crap. review gets a 3, cause you dont even make a real review, its like, mmm i remember those 4 songs they played, and oh yeah i liked them. MAKE A REVIEW PLEASE, SETLIST etc.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

i would like to second the fact that the casualties suck and are total mall punks who shout "oi" and "punx" over and over. although i highly doubt theyre child molestors. if you can back that up, than more power to you. but if you cant, take your slander somewhere else.

~Zäk

Mr_Pink (May 9, 2003)

I hope you're kidding, because unless you got something to back that up with, you're a Grade-A douchebag.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

The Casualties spend more time on their mall punk hair than they've ever spent writing a song or being "punk rock".

I also have it on good authority that they're child molesters.

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