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Alkaline Trio: Good MourningGood Mourning (2003)
Vagrant Records

Reviewer Rating: 3.5
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Contributed by: AubinAubin
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Ok, here's the thing: if you were pissed off by From Here to Infirmary, you're probably going to be pretty pissed off with Good Mourning too. (If you are, in fact, still pissed off about a record that came out two years ago, you really need to relax. I mean, the only people who seem to hold a .
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Ok, here's the thing: if you were pissed off by From Here to Infirmary, you're probably going to be pretty pissed off with Good Mourning too. (If you are, in fact, still pissed off about a record that came out two years ago, you really need to relax. I mean, the only people who seem to hold a grudge longer than Alkaline Trio fans are those eleven guys in Alabama who are still mad at Lincoln, and have civil war reenactments every weekend in the hopes that it'll turn out different.)

Well, it won't. The North won, and From Here To Infirmary was not, and will never be Maybe I'll Catch Fire. And on that note, Good Mourning is not Infirmary either.

But I've always had a soft spot for Skiba, Dan and the gang. I can say without hesitation that their various full lengths and EPs are among my favourites, and in spite of all the music I try to listen to, I always find a way to squeeze in a bit of ...Catch Fire, Infirmary or the singles collection. Because of that, in spite of the strong tracks on Good Mourning, it's frustrating how this record turned out.

Entering with "This Could Be Love" - a dark riff, Poe-inspired lyrics and that slow chug that seems to permeate the Trio's best stuff. Even the second track, which gratuitously features Keith Morris, who essentially just yells the chorus, seemed pretty catchy. Track three has a bit of organ at the beginning and has Dan Andriano taking the lead, in his nasal, but endearing voice.

But as the record continues, it becomes apparent how disjointed the record is. Even the self-titled singles collection had a thread through it, and those songs weren't even recorded together. Mourning seems all over the place. It sounds like Matt was listening to the Cure, while Dan was listening to Jawbreaker and the Broadways.

In many ways, there are not any dramatically bad songs, but the little studio flourishes seem to be the biggest detractor. For example, the acoustic guitar in "Every Thug Needs a Lady" seems better suited to whatever they're calling Modern Rock these days, and in quite a few of the songs, the seeming need of the band to use harmonies everywhere grates a little. Suffice to say, the production is very annoying.

The Trio was always a pretty minimal band, they are a trio after all, and the production on Good Mourning sounds like some sort of insecurity about that. Absolutely everything is overworked, whether it's the doubled up guitars, the many, many other instruments and samples, or the need to attach a high octave Matt-harmony to every track Dan sings lead on.

Part of me wants to blame Jerry Finn for this, and I'd like to think that he tied the band to chairs, and forced them to listen to Sing the Sorrow until they succumbed, but that's not very likely.

Now, having read this far, you might think I hate this record; it couldn't be further from the truth. This is a fine, albeit flawed, record, and most bands would be thrilled to have put out these songs, not to mention the consistently brilliant back catalog the Trio boasts. The problem is that a band like this is like a friend; you follow their music for years and you feel some sort of kinship with them. That friendship is a double edged sword. When they do well, you want to brag about how great they are, and when they do not-so-well, you're their harshest critic. So, take that granule of salt with you as you listen to the record and let us know what you think.

 

 
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Levendus (September 6, 2010)

I find the comments by users on this site so unbelieveably dumb.. Following a really well thought out and well articulated review they'll always just be a flurry of idiot commets. "OMG I LOVE ALK3 DAN YOU'RE SO SEXY "

good one.

I'm never scrolling down past the reviews ever again.

shawnlw (February 25, 2010)

I love how people consistently miss the fact that all of the guitars were double-tracked on Goddamnit. You may think that this album is a little over-produced, but it's got nothing to do with the number of guitar tracks, friend.

hhrules (December 18, 2008)

Pretty great album, definitely worth picking up

thomas7155 (October 6, 2007)

Aubin runs the website you dipshit. and this is a good record, despite being incredibly poppy.

warningdevice (December 13, 2005)

Whoever reviewed this record is a dipshit, I do agree that production wise its all over the place, and its definately the low point of A3. I think if they were to redo this record with Matt actually having his voice I think it would be better. Plus when this was recorded Matt and Dan didn' have that much chemistry with Derek yet, that chemistry shows more thoroughly in "Crimson". But this really is a good record, the only thing I'm gonna really nit-pick about is why they didn't use the regular version of "Blue in the Face". The acoustic version is ok, but the demo version i have on the 7" is fuckin incredible! It would have gave this record a huge boost.

Anonymous (November 21, 2005)

i luv derek the drummer!!!alkaline trio rule

Anonymous (November 21, 2005)

i loooooooooooveeeee alkaline trio they are da best ever!!!there songs are amazing more songs shud be realesed on radio n t.v i luv all thre albums

Anonymous (November 12, 2005)

Thinking of you wide awake for days

Anonymous (October 11, 2005)

I FUCKING LOVE THE SONG! 'Fatally Yours' Thats so cute and yes yes Alkaline gets Derek. I get people from Mest. Mr.Skiba you are the shit!

Anonymous (October 11, 2005)

i fuckin love you derek and i want you to marry me!!!!

-The one and only, Alkaline

Anonymous (October 2, 2005)

everyone who said their albums suck need to die and burn in hell

klonny (October 2, 2005)

Far too amazing. This Could Be Love, We've Had Enough, Continential, and Emma are reasons to buy this.

2nd favorite album ever.

Godfather (September 26, 2005)

To anyone that gave this album less than 4 stars: die.......now

Anonymous (July 12, 2005)

When I first bought this CD i could not stop listening to it. actually.. I still cant!

Amanda

Anonymous (June 9, 2005)

i don't the guy who gave this review is very clever, its obviously a great album and so is "from here to the infirmary", i dont think he had his head on right, or he was stoned

MaxTheGreat11 (May 16, 2005)

the guy before me is a fucking poser, pretending to know shit about music, thinking it makes him look cool and intelligent.

that said, this is the best album released by a band that can do no wrong

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

I like how they make you rate an album before its out... In fact I love the way they make you rate the album... But anyways Punknews is the shit. Alkaline trio is good, if you dont think so, gain some intelligence, and then try writing a song. Oh and then performing it for all those starving eyes. I got to give alkaline trio props on any recording they do and will always look forward to their next events.

Anonymous (August 11, 2004)

i saw matt skiba walking down hollywood blvd... and he bent over to tie his shoe, and the ass of his pants ripped right in half... you could see his butt cheeks and stuff.... he has the hairiest ass in this universe.... keep rocking king kong... their next album should be called... i need to shave my ass!!

Anonymous (August 11, 2004)

hahahaha... i want skiba to get fat... for some reason he is to big of a rockstar to play a decent show... i think he needs to slick back his hair, polish his money clip, and learn to move around on stage. i hate alkaline trio fans with all thier fake depression... instead of prentending they are going to slit their wrists... they shuld slit matt skiba's.... this band is by far, the worst excuse of three drunken cry babies.... they are the best band ever!!!

Anonymous (July 11, 2004)

You kids are more worried about the genre and what's cool and what's not rather than the actual music. Listen to the drumming, and the guitars and the bass playing for a moment rather than bitching about how they're changing their style or what not, since, you know, now its "not cool" to listen to them. Five bucks says that if they bring the spice girls back, and its gonna turn cool to listen to them, all you kids who said this was a bad album will jump the bandwagon...

AlienF (June 20, 2004)

I should agree that this album is quite disappointing. There are only a few tracks that I can bear listening to, and they still aren't that special :( . I hate to think so, but I suspect that the Trio are running out of ideas (especially Matt). Most songs they recorded after Maybe I'll Catch Fire sound almost the same. I'm still waiting for them to finally get back like before, although I don't know what made them like this. I hope it's not because Glenn left, because if it is, then they will never be like before again...

Anonymous (June 13, 2004)

An incredible album.

"ps: this album is just an imitation of the new mxpx's style.... which suck... and a lot !!!!"

Mxpx is a good band who try to sing about the positive stuff in the world. I honestly don't see how Alkaline Trio and Mxpx sound the same at all.

A lot of people on this site seem bitter for some unknown reason. Lighten up. If you dislike the album, that's fine, but give a better reason then 'they suck big balls!'

CrookedSuperhero (June 4, 2004)

Fuck you, i'm so sick of this shit. If the trio had brought out 3 more albums just like Goddammit, everyone would be fucking biching about that. Well you know what, fuck you, cause i think this new records(and 'Maybe','Infirmery') are amazing and just as good as Goddammit.

Anonymous (May 21, 2004)

the trio used to be an alright basic pop band but then they got too big for their britches, i can totally see Matt getting fatter and I can't wait to see them fall apart , it's karma biting them in the ass for making stupid muisc.

Anonymous (May 2, 2004)

I love Alkaline Trio. I think this cd is fucking amazing, just like the other ones. And the best song on it, in my opinion, has to be continental. It has a very strong meaning behind it, and I love that. I can't wait to see Alk3 live again. They are fucking amazing live...If you haven't seen them live, your missing out!

Anonymous (September 24, 2003)

I love every single alk3 album, they all fucking rule!...

yay for me

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

A good record really dark
Best Songs
Fatally Yours
Blue Carolina
Blue in the Face

8dollarclarinetsolo (July 4, 2003)

my mind cant agree with itself about this cd. and also, i dont understand the broadways comment at all.... how? all his songs have choruses, are not politcal or anything, in fact a lot of them are longer and less fast than some of the matt songs: emma, fatally yours, weve had enough; where as every thug.., 100 stories, and if we never go inside in particular are longer and im just saying i dont understand that comment is all

Anonymous (June 28, 2003)

this album bores me to death

Anonymous (June 3, 2003)

Trio albums, best to worst:
1) Maybe I'll Catch Fire
2) Good Mourning / Singles
4) From Here To Infirmary
5) HWM split
6) 7"s, and comp songs
7) Goddamnit

I have no fucking clue why everyone likes Goddamnit the best. That was the first album by them i bought, right before MICF came out, and i liked it, but EVERYTHING ELSE IS BETTER.
Goddamnit!!! Shut the fuck up about Goddamnit!!!

preacher (May 31, 2003)

Has anyone heard the "techno" version of Fatally Yours? I am guessing they did it on some break in the studio. It's the funniest shit ever. Look for out on Kazaa as Fatally Yours [Alternate Version].

rayjay (May 27, 2003)

i'm actually very impressed with this record, i went in expecting very little, not because of the punk going commercial debate, but because my taste has changed somewhat. but this is what it should be, easy listening fast punk, and it works. i remember now why listened to FHTI non stop for a year (believe it or not, that was pretty much the first we'd heard of the trio in australia). and blue carolina is the first song by dan that i have really enjoyed, (although crawl was good aswell)

Anonymous (May 23, 2003)

this album debuted at number 20 on the billboard chart! finally they are getting what they deserve - recognition!

joshua (May 23, 2003)

Since Alkaline Trio is one of my favorite bands, I eagerly waited for this record to come. I had fallen in love with their earlier albums and I was very eager to listen to this. My excitement even went as far as creating a tear-away calender that would count the days until it was released. Yes, I am a dork.
I had downloaded a few of the demos on the internet, but I tried not to listen to them because I just wanted to be surprised by what they did. But from what I heard, I was expecting something great.
And well, after listening to it, I must admit it is great. However, it does have a few problems that detract from its quality. The production of the album has its high points and low points. The excessive harmonies did get on my nerves a lot. Often when I was expecting a classic Skiba-I'm-not-quite-sure-how-to-put-it(listen to the chorus of goodbye forever, I heard a three-way harmony. Using it a few times can be effective and can sound just flat-out cool, but there are so many, it can become rather bothersome. But sometimes, the production makes the album much stronger and more intresting. For example, in the song Donner Party, you can hear Derek breathing. And when he breathes it goes along with the music. It almost sounds like exhaling and inhaling, with the combination of his breath and the music. When I heard this I was just blown away. I showed a friend that part with an extremely excited look on my face, and he responded with a, "Umm. That's cool..." Clearly, the production of the album can either help or harm the listeners enjoyment of the album.
This album becomes even more intresting when the contrast between Matt's songs and Dan's songs becomes evident. This really needs no explanation, just listen to "this could be love" and "100 stories" and you will understand.
When I finished listening, I was not sure what to think. It was almost as if I was confused. I could not believe it. How could I have waited for so long for an album that only confuses? Well, I listened to it more and more times, and it simply just grew on me. And thats really the trick to this album. At first one can be very confused and unsure about what to think. But after repeated listens, it will become very clear to them what they think.
Now I'm not going to compare this to their other albums, but if you have never heard Alk3 before, listen to the singles collection before you listen to Good Mourning. Overall, this is just a good C.D. that can be enjoyed very thoroughly.
P.S. Billboard, "we've had enough" is not about how badly Alk3 wants to get on the radio. geez

Anonymous (May 22, 2003)

Right and while growing they STILL havent changed there style of music or there originality

Anonymous (May 22, 2003)

The guy 2 posts below me is 100% right. i am what they would call an old school trio fan and im not bitching becuz its not like Goddamnit in fact i like this better then goddamnit they improved on their lyrics theyve grown up and they are more musically talented. there are so many awesome tracks on this CD and its an amazing CD so if any of you want to buy a CD youll listen to for a long time buy "Good Mourning" Its not overproduced, its just better.

preacher (May 22, 2003)

not everyone is saying the album is over-produced. only the idiots are. and yes, continental is a fucking good song.

Anonymous (May 21, 2003)

i have a question for everyone or i guess anyone who reads this, how come everytime i read a review of this record is has a million and one things to say about every matt skiba track on good mourning EXCEPT for Continental. This, in my oppinon, is one of the best songs on the cd, although its hard to say that any of them are bad. This cd is really amazing if you let go of the old alkaline trio, theyre old stuff was amazing yes but things change, apparently matt and dan havent used enough of the alcohol and drugs stuff on this cd. That bugs me because the lyrics on this album are incredible. Listen to it and dont compare it to their other albums, it isnt like the rest and i think that anytime someone puts a new idea out there and takes a chance, people are too quick to say "THIS ALBUM SUCKS CAUSE ITS NOT LIKE THE REST" well dont come at it from that point of view. No the album isnt like the rest but it is different and actually if you listen to it correctly than the production doesnt really come through at all. I dont really understand what everyone is saying with this overproduction crap anyway. Not every song has matt doing a high part on a dan song and not every song has harmonies so quit lying. And i recomend everyone go buy this cd because its great.

Anonymous (May 21, 2003)

itsa pretty good pop punk cd, but i expect more from alkaline. sef titled and goddamit are the best and i dont see how anyone thinks oterwise. they have been falling since fhti. i do like the acoustic song though, and his raspy voice occasionally makes up for the sleekness of this album.

inagreendase (May 20, 2003)

WHAT? wtf does the misfits and that confused comment have to do w/ anything. this score is for you and that spectacularly random and sincerely idiotic sentence

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

"goddammit has its moments but i dont think its as good as good mourning"

the new misfits dont have that glenn danzig baggage either. idiot.

wyzo

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

this album is way better than fhti... blah blah blah overproduction. whatever. it sounds good to me. i think this albums kicks ass.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

hahaha homogenized... aaaaaahahaha

Anonymous (May 19, 2003)

I just bought tickets to see the trio next month, i wasnt to impressed with their warped tour performance (although i was still good considering how amazing they are) but im hoping this will be alot better

AIM : ALEJandra863

preacher (May 19, 2003)

Man, that's tough. Although I really love Blue in the Face (and especially the last couple of lines) I would have to say Sorry About That is king.

inagreendase (May 19, 2003)

adam - definitely.
i would rank it like this
1. fhti
2. maybe catch fire
3. s/t / good mourning
5. goddammit
goddammit has its moments but i dont think its as good as good mourning. however, its acoustic closer is much better than good mourning's.
poll - which acoustic closer is better?

evildeadalive (May 19, 2003)

Not sure what I think yet. Definitely no Goddamnit or S/T though...

Has anyone ever heard the song 'It Doesn't Really Matter' by canadian glam rock greats Platinum Blonde? I'm willing to bet Matt Skiba has. 'This Could Be Love' just could be a little bit stolen. Well the one guitar part anyways...

Anonymous (May 19, 2003)

For the person who said way way down there that they have a show sponsered by a radio station. Big fucking deal. Bad Religion and NOFX have all there shows sponsered by radio stations, it doesn't mean shit. They still are who they are. And CD is good but the self titled of stuff that wasn't on cds and MICF were better. Still don't know what to think if its better than FHTI

Anonymous (May 19, 2003)

i really like it.
maybe you guys have to good stereos since you bitch about the production.
i only have some crap bought at a fleamarket in east berlin.

Anonymous (May 19, 2003)

THIS ALBUM FUCKIN' RULZZZZZ BRO!

Love,
Vagrant

Anonymous (May 19, 2003)

the search for music that is meaningful in a very personal way is a difficult one, but sometimes you need to just fuck the bunny and become 'good mourning' owner #200,001. cheers to homogenized music culture. that said - credit is due for the early songs (lungs and such).........oh, no i didn't buy the record, but if i need to hear it again i'll be sure to listen up next time i'm buying toilet paper at target. much love to the reader. i wish you well.

Anonymous (May 19, 2003)

The Matt Skiba / Kevin Seconds split rules. It's all acoustic, but It fucking rules. If you are a Akaline Trio fan I highly recomend buying this CD. You can buy it on Interpunk.com for cheap.

Anonymous (May 18, 2003)

what a great fucking album. that is all i have to say.

Anonymous (May 18, 2003)

People who criticize album production saying that it's "overdone" are ex musicians who are jaded because their old punk band turned indie rock went nowhere.

StratManX (May 18, 2003)

Yeah, lieutenant, that wasn't funny...it was damn hilarious. Fuck religion.

Anonymous (May 18, 2003)

Lieutenant, that was in no way amusing, there's a difference between edgy and offensive. If you want to be a comedian, go on Star Search.

lieutenant (May 18, 2003)

Anony two posts below; you hit the nail right in Jesus' wrists.

NOFXPunkLTJ22 (May 18, 2003)

Too slow. Enough said. Infirmary was better.

Anonymous (May 18, 2003)

I have a bad habit of getting too psyched up for things and then being let down as was the case with FHTI, but this cd impressed me right away. Unlike seemingly 90% of this board I was able to resist the urge to download the cd and my first listen came in my car on the way home. I was completely blown away by This Could Be Love. Whoever was complaining about the lack of funny/sarcastic lyrics on this release must also be the moron skipping over this track. How can you not laugh at touch myself at thoughts of flames and shat the bed and laid there in it... ?? As for the whines about over-production... in the recording journal they talked about toying with techno sounds and Dan fucking named a song Every Thug Needs A Lady!! How can a fan not be focussing on the production after hearing that, but then again I'll take any form of said "over-production" instead of techno Alkaline Trio anyday. Someone in an earlier post mentioned that there wasn't one of Matt's typical "fun songs" as they put it where it's the fast riff over and over, and I definitely agree. Goddamnit had it's Cringe, MICF had Keep Em Comin', FHTI had Mr. Chainsaw, but Good Mourning lacks one. At first listen I thought Fatally Yours had the potential to be it, but unfortunately it's not. Moving on, eventhough I did a bit of album comparison myself, I really dislike it when that's how records are reviewed. Each record is written/recorded/performed at a different stage in the songwriters life, so each record will have a different sound. I was impressed with the sound of this one enough to go out and pick up the vinyl for home use. That's my two cents and probably way more than anyone cared to read. Generally I like to just sit back and read, maybe I'm better suited for that... on a side note, did anybody notice the review of GM in Playboy??? Never EVER thought I'd see that but they say that Alk3 have the guitar riffs to make them rich like Jimmy Eat World. I can't wait to see Matt's version of a party with girls running around in their underwear.

Anonymous (May 17, 2003)

Wah wah weeeee wah!!

Anonymous (May 17, 2003)

I think the vocals sucked on FHTI. He sounded like a robot.

Anonymous (May 17, 2003)

vocals sound like shit

the booklet is really nice and smells like skybox basketball trading cards from 1991. score.

Anonymous (May 17, 2003)

wow, thanks to the dude who informed me 'emma' was written by skiba. its my fav song on the album, but it felt weird as a dan song. all his other songs on the album are all happy and shit about his wife and missing her, and then theres this crazy song called emma, totally out of character for dan. i suspected it was a skiba song, but i didnt say anything about it.

ps. feedmynightmare, great nickname dickface. infirmiry is still the best

preacher (May 17, 2003)

...and my god does Derek fucking kick ass. Hope Matt gets his voice sorted out soon, such a damn shame. But a great performance I thought, although rather poorly mixed.

preacher (May 17, 2003)

Hey sickboi, thanks for the tip. I've been looking like crazy for it on the web, but couldn't find it anywhere.

sickboi (May 16, 2003)

Anyone that wants to see the A3 pefromance on Conan the other night, punkrockvids.com has a damn good download of it. After watching ti a second time they actually were pretty fucking good. Derek went apeshit on that kit.

-sickboi
(Skiba still looks like the Cat in the Hat though)

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

whoever compared alkaline trio to MXPX needs to stop whatever they are doing, and go directly to MTV.com, you will be better there.

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

I'm not a big fan but I sure as hell wouldn't compare these guys to mxpx. What a moron.

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

How can you compare these guys to MXPX? Do you even listen to punk? Do you even listen to music?

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD
What do they do on Punknews.org, when they're not Punks at all....
ps: this album is just an imitation of the new mxpx's style.... which suck... and a lot !!!!

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

"As Stuart Scott might say, 'booya.'"

And as Peter Skudra might say 'Hey, try not to shoot that puck up my pooper!'

preacher (May 16, 2003)

From Meanstreet.com...

"Skiba and Andriano divvy up singing duties on the album, with each getting seven and five songs, respectively. ??Emma,? the lyrics to which are written by Skiba, but sung by Andriano, is the lone anomaly on the album. ?

Hey, I didn't know Skiba wrote the lyrics to that song.

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

to that guy that said F.H.T.I. was their best cd, i agree that cd was really good. To me i like all their cds just the same, my favorite song still being "trouble breathing". this cd was a solid release from the band, can't wait to see them in austin

TheOneTrueBill (May 16, 2003)

they were on Q101! They have a show spondered by 94.7! HA!

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

I'll second that comment about Derek Grant's drumming...he was amazing with the Suicide Machines and he's amazing with the Trio.

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

That review sucked and My friend Peter is on S/T track number 5

Bryne (May 16, 2003)

It's good, I think. I like it better than FHTI.

Oh, and it's going for $6.98 at Target. As Stuart Scott might say, 'booya.'

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

it does smell really wierd, but in a good way. i can't help but to keep smelling it.

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

See, I thought it was a singles collection, but some of those songs aren't on the full lengths, am I correct? I don't think "My Friend Peter" is on any of em, but I could be wrong. As I said, I'm not the biggest trio fan.

-sickboi
(it'll take 23 more to wipe this stupid fucking smile off my face)

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

sickboi the only reason anyone's gonna give you shit for that comment rite now is because u said something stupid.

its not the b-sides collection, its the singles collection...well, i guess you could call it either or, maybe your a punk rock rebel for referring to it as the b-sides collection because EVERYONE calls what i'm pretty sure is the s/t that ur talking about, the singles collection

jimmyarndt (May 16, 2003)

Jesus Christ...the person below me...
That review was damn good. A song by song breakdown of an album is not a good review, neither is a "this sounds like _____"
Excellent review man, keep them up.

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

New review please whoever runs this fucking website would you please put up a different review cuz this one sucks and we all wanna know what the cd sounds like!!! cmon please!!

KirbyPuckett (May 16, 2003)

"Does anyone else's booklet for this cd smell really weird? Also, what the hell is with the name digi packs?"

Yes & I have no clue. Digipack is what my brother called it and he works at a record store so I'm taking his word for it.

To the guy that said something about thank you lists. I really dig them too. Back when I first got into this whole "punk" thing, maybe you've heard of it, that's how I'd find out about bands. Just look at the thank yous then head to the store.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(He looks identical to Jack Osbourne too!)

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

ONE more thing. Nobody over the age of 18 uses b4 to spell before. PHONY!

oknowimdone,
-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

And yet youre such a mature 23 that you have to resort to name calling.
And at the prime age of 23 you cant think of anything better to call someone than dickface?

Thanks for being the joke of the night!

sleepytime,
-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

So, what are you some kind of teeny bopper?

Its good that people have bad taste in music. It gives something to compare the good to.

cheers,
-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (May 16, 2003)

i like how someone told me i have no credibility as a fan since i consider 'from here to infirmiry' their best album. its funny how u can't have your own opinion on any of these boards. chirst, i had s/t b4 infirmiry and i'm 23 years old. i think infirmiry is the best so fuck off. its not cuz i'm a teenybopper or a new fan or whatever. its my opinion. so here it is one more time dickface, hope it burns u up
1.fromhere to infirmiry
2.good mournign
3.s/t
4.goddammit
5.maybe ill catch fire

thefirstfive (May 16, 2003)

i drum. not very well, and not in a band. but derek grant and bill stevenson is the drummers that made me want to play punk. He inspired me with his suicide machines drumming going apeshit fast and still floating over everything on his set. He is the bill stevenson of the 90's. He brought a lot to this album. Just thought i'd throw in a word. again..

lieutenant (May 16, 2003)

(This is a tried, tested, and failed subkect, but I haven't seen it come up yet... I may just not be looking hard enough) But anyway, you guys think Alkaline will still on Vagrant until they die?

lieutenant (May 16, 2003)

What I have noticed is the digipack feels very weird. Like, grainy. I like that. The book itself is very less than impressive. Alkaline Trio have never gone to very great extents in providing interesting lyric booklets, so I won't say I am disappointed. However, even a well-placed picture or two of the band would have been nice. And even an extended thank you list; I admit that I always look forward to those for no real reason.

greg0rb (May 15, 2003)

Does anyone else's booklet for this cd smell really weird? Also, what the hell is with the name digi packs? Digital pack? Scott cleared this up for me and i know it's just the company's name or something... but still, bad name, there is nothing digital or digimon or digirido about them.
-Greg

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

The hell? Felumlee wasn't writing songs for the Alk3 before he was in the band.... Matt and Dan and a little help from Glen is where they came from. In my opinion Glen is was the best drummer. First off, he was an amazing drummer, and he just fit Alk3 the best.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

What about the art work?

I think the cover looks amazing as well as the little pictures floating around the insert. In general it's just a well designed piece of art.

However, I HATE DIGIPACK CASES!!! Damn you and your cardboard Vagrant!

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(I hate when people look over my shoulder)

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

Boring...

sickboi (May 15, 2003)

I am gonna get shit for this.....

I was never into A3, my fav was always the b-sides collection. This is my second fav. Go figure. Anyone that says its overproduced is insane. If anything, it seems a little muddy.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

yes , glen was the drummer, but mike helped write the songs during that time. Or thats what i read in a few interviews. thats supposedly why mike took over the drumming duties.

-feedmynightmare

preacher (May 15, 2003)

"Alkaline have already peaked. Matt's songwriting stays the same." Stays the same...you mean constantly at "great"? That's not exactly a problem in my book. Man, you guys are fucking heartless.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

This is one of my favorite alk3 records next to Goddammit. So what if its over produced! they have a bigger budget its going to happen. They aren't on Asian Man anymore. This album has some of the best songs I have ever heard All on Black is fucking amazing along with Emma and Every thug needs a lady! This album gets a 10 from me. Great work from the trio.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

ehhh.....glenn porter was the drummer on goddammit and maybe i'll catch fire

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

"bro, their new drummer is worlds better than their old ones, its fucking derek grant, u ever listen to the suicide machines first album? its like good drumming 101 (grants old band)
1.from here to infirmiry 10
2.good mourning 8
3.s/t single collection 7.5
4.goddammit 7
5.maybe i'll catch fire 6
although they all have their moments (radio)."

Haha ! right on "bro" the trio is so sweet, duuude.

Seriously though, worst list ever. Anybody could play drums in the Alkaline Trio and sound good, Mike Felumlee helped right about 50% of the songs on goddamnit and mabey ill catch fire. He arranged alot of the vocal patterns.

Derek Grant is a sweet drummer, but hes no Mike Felumlee .

rockonchicago,
-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

Dan listening to Jawbreaker and The broadways? Why in the hell would Dan listen to a band that was formed out of the waste of slapstick?

When will Dan realize that he needs to get tuesday back together. Alkaline have already peaked. Matt's songwriting stays the same.

Mikeshitter (May 15, 2003)

They attach a "high-octave Matt harmony" on ONE song Dan sings. For the most part Dan does his own harmonies.

People who make lists are funny.

greg0rb (May 15, 2003)

Alright, I'm a little late posting on this and I'm still forming an opinion... not too bad so far though. Goddammit will always be the best I think.
To those guys talkin about the cymbal , or "cymbol" way down there on FHTI, I think the reason it was annoying is that Felumlee drums "open-handed" meaning his left hand plays the hihat insted of the right hand crossing over. Therefore, when he rides on the crash, which he does a lot in FHTI, he is riding with his left hand on a 16" (small) crash or something, cuz it does sound high pitched and annoying, insted of with his right hand on a larger crash which is usually to the right on most kits.
Oh yeah and Derek rules. That guy can blast. I do miss Glenn though.

lackofsleep (May 15, 2003)

you have no credibility concerning Alk3 if you think FHTI was their best album

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

"1.from here to infirmiry 10
2.good mourning 8
3.s/t single collection 7.5
4.goddammit 7
5.maybe i'll catch fire 6"

WORST LIST EVER

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

and if you're about to shit on my order saying i must be a new fan, i was into them b4 from here..., i'm not as old school as some fans, but i did have s/t many months b4 from here to infirmiry came out, then i got the rest...

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

bro, their new drummer is worlds better than their old ones, its fucking derek grant, u ever listen to the suicide machines first album? its like good drumming 101 (grants old band)
1.from here to infirmiry 10
2.good mourning 8
3.s/t single collection 7.5
4.goddammit 7
5.maybe i'll catch fire 6
although they all have their moments (radio).

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

greene was a linebacker (Defense) ryan green is fat producer...oh yea, and the guy that said 'private eye makes an appearance', dude, alk3 use that riff in like every other song, such as the outro to 'jaked on green beers' the intro to 'queen of pain' the song u talk about and some others. matt don't know much about the guitar, but i love the band, but not really for the music, more like the vocals and lyrics

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

poe the writer/poet....not poe the band, ass.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

BTW...It was Ryan Greene.....
JL

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

Poe-inspired lyrics? Come on, Alkaline Trio is a good band, but don't be a fucking idiot.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

what the hell happened to matt allison.

anyone notice the change once he stopped producing.

hm...

KirbyPuckett (May 15, 2003)

"p.s. i THINK it was the defensive line, not positive.

You're right, I'm not sure what exact position. I just remember in Madden 95 on Sega I used to sack the quarterbacks all the time w/ the Greene & Lloyd combo.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(The kick is up...it's good!)

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

i like how the "private eye" intro makes a guest appearnace or two in song 11

inagreendase

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

p.s. i THINK it was the defensive line, not positive

inagreendase

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

haha scott remember when greene wrestled in the wcw and people payed atttention to "professional" wrestling? great stuff. he came out of nowhere, from the defensive line to the assembly line

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

when you post a review arent you suppose to talk about the album? you know it doesnt help when a guy just talks about how many alkaline trio albums he has or something we wanna know about the album not about what he thinks about the status of the band! someone tell me how this shit gets put up!

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

ok, sorry...Tom Green...my error.

KirbyPuckett (May 15, 2003)

"maybe kevin greene could produce it. then it would sound like every album from the 90s."

Kevine Greene was awesome when he was on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(Brian Giles rules and you know it)

Ak3atarisriot (May 15, 2003)

will someone else put a review for this cuz this blows and i wanna hear what a half way intelligent person writes about this album not this moron.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

i don't really care for this record its okay i guess, from here.... was allot better, why does everyone hate their last record???

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

"i don't hear them on the radio"

Actually, they get quite a bit of radio play in Chicago, dickcheese.

preacher (May 15, 2003)

The anonymous guy below me needs to take a pill. Oh, and if they had recorded another Goddamnit, everyone would have been slagging them off for trying to copy such a classic record. Good Mourning is Good Mourning, stop comparing and get the fuck over the fact that a band evolves.

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

Fuck that reveiew! The trio Rocks! All there albums ROCK! If you dont relate dont listen! June 10th in Pacific beach for the real fans! Skiba And DAnny RUle!!!!

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

what the hell...

1.goddamnit
2.s/t
3.mabe ill catch fire
4.from here to infirmiry
5.good mourning

all 5 of these are solid albums.

Mike Felumlee is the man, mabe thats why this album seems to be lacking something?

-feedmynightmare

FortyMinutesWest (May 15, 2003)

You can like them, I really don't care. I just see them as another pop punk band.(and no, I don't mean like Good Charlotte or New Found Glory)

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

I think it's pretty easy to see why they've gotten so big. Look, I don't care if you don't like them, that's another thing, but they've made a ton of extremely catchy punk songs. Of course they are gonna be big.

FortyMinutesWest (May 15, 2003)

"never understood how they got as big as they have gotten. "

I don't understand it either.

fallingtopieces (May 15, 2003)

"The problem is that a band like this is like a friend; you follow their music for years and you feel some sort of kinship with them."

I couldnt have said it better myself. This is exactly how i feel about them. "Goddamnit" is my favorite album of all time, it just happened to relate to me at a hard time in my life. "I lied my face off" is incredible as well, my only problem with that ep is that its over to quickly. Anyways, I think that "Good Mourning" is good, not excellent by any means, but good. Its definately much better than "From Here to Infirmary". I still miss Glenn Porter, the band seemed really close when he was in it, now they seem somewhat segregated, anyways im going on too long . .

Anonymous (May 15, 2003)

never understood how they got as big as they have gotten.

waste_elite (May 14, 2003)

maybe i'll catch fire was the darkest and best album

and because you didn't ask for it, my ranking:

1. maybe i'll catch fire
2. s/t (the "i lied my face off" ep is probably the best thing they've done)
3. godamnit (i've listened to this record so many times it's gotten kinda boring)
4. good mourning
5. from here to infirmary

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

soooo, what did everyone this about the dawsons creek series finale??

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

whoever called alkaline trio sellouts is a moron. that has to be the stupidest thing i have ever heard.

just because a lot of people buy the record, no matter what age, doesn't classify them as sellouts. I don't hear them on MTV, i don't hear them on the radio, i don't hear them changing their sound to fit in with a major label.

maybe next time you should worry about your 10th grade social studies homework instead of who's a sellout.

8dollarclarinetsolo (May 14, 2003)

to some people below me, why is the first thing every one does is rank the records? records are far too complex to be just given a number on a totem pole within two days, enjoy the nuances of an album and worry less about its rank, i say.

good review, i wasnt sure if i was gonna pick this up or not, but the late show performance really made me fall in love with "all on black", ill probably end up getting this tomorrow

lieutenant (May 14, 2003)

Scott, you have declared earlier that you would have a review up. I am guessing Aubin has taken your duties, but I think most of us are still left in the black regarding your critical analysis (which we all secretly want to hear as well).

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

for the dude bitching about the album selling out at target and circuit city, you should try going to a record store

lackofsleep (May 14, 2003)

why dont people understand that the reason Matt writes lyrics the way he does to piss people off?
"If it offends people who are afraid to question their own faith, then it??s a good thing. We were on the list of records that a church wanted a certain record store to pull off the shelves. I was pretty happy about that. I don??t actually believe that there is a Satan or a hell or all that kind of stuff, but the imagery more than anything is exciting and challenging. But if it??s gonna piss somebody off for me to say I??m a Satanist, I??d be happy about that."
Straight from the horses mouth. Or Skiba's. whatever.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

I'm a diehard Alkaline Trio fan and have been since Goddamnit. They can do no wrong in my eyes... but Jerry Finn can. The over producing sucks ass, but hey... ya' have to deal with it. I like the album, basically because I like everything Alk3 releases. As everyone says... its no Goddamnit, and I don't ever think there will be another Goddamnit. The review is basically everything that I thought was bad about the CD but lets face it, you either like these guys, or you don't. They haven't changed the way they make music, their lyrics are still amazing... I guess what I'm trying to say is that when these guys are done making music I will look back and cherish EVERY song they've ever made.

The albums in order... My opinion ofcourse.

1. Goddamnit
2 S/T
3. From Here to the Infirmary
4. Maybe I'll Catch Fire
5. Good Mourning

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Great reivew. Aubin writes some of the best reviews on the sight. As for the album, well, it sure as hell ain't no Goddamit!, but it's better than From Here To Infirmary.-SaYnE_GuY

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

ugly ass album cover doesnt help this pathetic band anymore. cant you see we are sick of the same lyrical content everyalbum, skiba is obssesed with drinking and anything dead, pretty cool the first four times right?>????? now its old

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

"maybe kevin greene could produce it. then it would sound like every album from the 90s.
the album? I dunno i've not heard it yet. what do i know?"

Not much because his name is Ryan Greene, penis.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

all the 15 yeard old girls love this album, probably why it SOLD OUT at TARGET AND FUCKING CIRCUIT CITY, where the album is on DISPLAY. goddamn, get off this bands nuts, they are not good anymore. can anyone say sellouts?

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Decent album. This album is worth the $6.99 I paid at Target. I don't know if this album is worth dropping 12 to 15 dollars on though. While I don't believe that A3 will live up to their Asian Man days, it is good to see that they have yet to have a dramatic regression. That will most likely come on the next album. The best part of my day was watching Against Me! in Sacramento. Great live band. Excellent Album (RIAR).

FortyMinutesWest (May 14, 2003)

This whole "I disagree with the review, so it sucks" shit is getting old. It was a fair and honest review, if you don't like it, put your energy towards writing your own review.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

this reviewer is a shit-brain. This album is probably 65% Catch Fire and 35% Infirmary. I've already listened to it 8 times.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

okay first this cd is a great cd..one of my favorites. i think it is great that derek is singing on some of the songs..it is great to see such a great drummer singing..anywho i love every songe on this album. we've had enough is a great song..i love All on Black.i just resently saw them on the late night show doing a great proformance. these guys kickass and i hope to see them soon in my city and i hope they continue produceing great music
~alkalinetriofreak666

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

shitty review and reviewer. try not to contradict yourself so many times and you might not sound like such an idiot...

You do know that said 'idiot' is the webmaster of this site?

get over yourself, because as always Aubin's review is top notch as he gives fair representation of the music, but still allows his personal opinion to touch the media at hand.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(Mmm Jalapeno chips)

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

nope, blue carolina is their best song.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Does the addition of Derek Grant's drumming make any difference? He was awesome with the Suicide
Machines, and they were never nearly as good after he left. he' s really the one reason I want to hear this album.

--Cos

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

I meant Continental actually. Not sure how I messed that one up.

Yeah. Continental. Friend dies of heroin OD.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

if its like their others,it blows,blowie blow blows,HOW ABOOT SOME DROPKICK MURPHYS,THEIR NEW RECORD IS OUT JUNE 10TH ,MOTHER FUCKER

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

to the guy below me. you mean "Blue in the Face" not "Blue Carolina," right?

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

The record is pretty good. I got a copy in March to create the streaming player for the press. I was pretty stoked cause I really like the band... I wore the shit out of it for awhile... Anyway, I got a copy in the mail yesterday and finally saw the finished art, which came out really well.

The band sucked on Conan me thinks. I don't think they're very good live. Every time I have seen them, they are just kinda sloppy.

I'm pretty sure the drug references on Blue Carolina are for heroin, not coke. You can snort and shoot both, but it just sounds like heroin to me.

Word.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

maybe kevin greene could produce it. then it would sound like every album from the 90s.
the album? I dunno i've not heard it yet. what do i know?

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

this could be love sounds too much like private eye's guitar part and opening verse, which in turn sounded too much like madam me redone. So three times diluted is it a better song? hells no.
wyzo

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

judging from the songs, Dan should make another Tuesday album and 2fast.

Ramo
(& 2furious)

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

reading through this string of comments I have noticed that people have adamently supported each alk3 album as their best - a sign of a great band.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

This is honestly the Trio's best work to date. I'd normally vote for Singles, but being how its' ep's and other shit, it's not a real album. I've had this for a while, and it gets better with every listen. I'm also gonna give the most credit on this album's kick-ass-ness to Derek Grant. He's the fucking man!
Best tracks:
All On Black, Blue Caroline, This Could Be Love.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

To sbka-
My original comment: "but nothing seems to come close to the majority of skiba songs on the first 3 full-lengths."

Let's look at the songs you listed as not being sarcastic at all...
Clavicle - There are some pretty dry lines in that song. "saw what looked like really good food, then i saw ya, and so did you", then the cute little "you can bet i'll be bothering you soon, you said "no bother please do""
Message from Kathlene - Andriano song, I clearly said Skiba songs
Madam Me - Ummm... right,
"Judging by your eyes like crystal balls.
Madam Me is predicting that your answer will be yes"
"From your knees you're coated brown,
to your toes there is no sound like this"

You've got so far to go - Again, Andriano song...

Either way, it's subjective.. all opinion. It's what I think. How I interpret lyrics and what makes me laugh, may not click with you, and vice versa, it's a stupid thing to argue.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

this album is solid. it houses dans best work in my opinion. the fact that its 'all over the place' i think has to do with the different mind states of dan and matt. dan got married during the making of this record, so his songs are really more optimistic and happy than his old stuff or matt's. matt on the other hand seems to have wanted to write deeper and darker stuff. i don't like it as much as 'infirmiry' but its very good, as i said, dans best. the production is alittle over the top sometimes but not as bad as the review makes it sound.

preacher (May 14, 2003)

It's not always that easy. I doubt his voice is that much better now even.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

i'm aware skiba has had problems with his voice, they cancelled that tour earlier this year because of it, they should have to waited to record then because he sounds awful.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Good review. Anyone that thinks this is not a good review needs to stop swinging off Skiba's and Dan's balls.

Contradictions? None.

-Scotty

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

to sbka or whatever the fuck your name is; if you think that this album is dark compared to older stuff, well youre just plain retarded.

-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Thats the dumbest fucking statement.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

this album is good, but overall it still doesn't top the blood brothers.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Skiba injured his vocal chords a while back before x-mas and they had to quit recording for a little bit, and I think he was still sorta in recovery when they finished. Sorry about the double post (friggin' tab button)

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Skiba injured his vocal chords a while back before x-mas and they had to

preacher (May 14, 2003)

read the journals on the official website. he had some problems with his voice during recording and had to see a specialist and shit.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

what the fuck is up with skiba's voice??? it sounds like he is trying to strain to get out the lyrics. although the voice is different, it is starting to grow on me. just not the alk3 i am used to.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

shitty review and reviewer. try not to contradict yourself so many times and you might not sound like such an idiot. alkaline trio = good music(period)

Albert Freddy Ingram

to mr. anonymous two posts down: comedy central airs conans show at 7pm the following day and at 12ish two days later.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

anyone get the canadian version and notice the spelling error at the bottom "vagrangt.com"? - bigjerk

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Yeah Skiba's voice is different now, but it's growing on me.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

skiba's voice sounds awful on this album, i'm suprised more people haven't mentioned that.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Anyone see them on Conan lastnight or where I can get it online? I missed the show! HELP!

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

I like this more than FHTI, I think the production is pretty cool. Matt's vocals are pretty wack on All on Black, but otherwise it doesn't bother me. They probably won't do another record like everything before FHTI, but it's still good, so I just kinda accepted that after their last album. Some of the lyrics are kinda boring, but some of them are really good. Anyway, this is better than most everything out now.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

the album is good, but no goddamnit.

then again the fact that no other album has come close is what makes goddamnit so good.

fatman (May 14, 2003)

fuck me... I didn't get anything...which i kinda thought was strange when i got back to my office and didn't find anything in the pocket... that's what i get buying a cd from Best Buy

fAt mAn

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

whoever said that alk3 should move to fat wreck, is an idiot. if alk3 moved to fat then theyd become some over produced shit. i fear thats what will happen with the next against me! full length. the new cd is fine, and i rate it an 8. by the way. the reviews on this site are really lacking.

preacher (May 14, 2003)

yeah man, a kickass booklet with some amazingly looking art and lyrics. at least it was there in the UK version, which is what i've got.

fatman (May 14, 2003)

fAt mAn is confused...were there supposed to be liner notes in the little pocket thingy...cause I didn't get any...

fAt mAn

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Come to think of it, this is one of the stupidest reviews written on this site, and that says a lot.

First of all; over-produced? No, just produced, in contrast with their earlier albums where some of the songwriting was killed by the shittiness of the production. And if you can't hear the songwriting over the harmonies, then boy must you have untrained ears. Go back to listening to accustic singer/songwriters.

Punks must be some of the most narrowminded fans in the world. "the acoustic guitar in "Every Thug Needs a Lady" seems better suited to whatever they're calling Modern Rock these days"? Do you like the song? Yeah? Then shut up. They use orgel/keyboards on this album as well, which is also commonly used in gospel music. It adds to the overall variety of the album, which I think is great.

Some moron said that we album lacks the "sarcastic lyrical genious" of the previous albums. What Alkaline Trio have you been listening to? Sure, a selection of the old songs have brilliant lyrics, but then again, they also have songs like Clavicle, Message from Kathlene, Madam Me, You've got so far to go, etc. Hardly sarcastic songs. I like the darker theme to most of the songs on this album. And even Dan, who I still think sounds a bit retarded, has done a great job on this album. You can hardly blame them for the album being disjointed when they are in two different people.

This album isn't perfect, but doesn't deserve all the critisism it gets. Your friendship is like a double edged sword? More like a four letter word. Someone please write a proper review of this album.

-sbka

sloppyblake (May 14, 2003)

i dont hate the cd. i don't love it. i think if they move to fat wreck they will get the producer they need. mike allison said it best when he said 'jerry finn was alseep both times i was in the studio with them' on the infirmary cd. i think jerry went a little overboard. good cd though.

thefirstfive (May 14, 2003)

Also did anyone other than me just giggle like a school girl at the misfits referance in we've had enough?

thefirstfive (May 14, 2003)

buy a pack of lucky strikes, put this album in the stereo and listen to it blasting three times. You will love it.

thefirstfive (May 14, 2003)

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

the AK3 performance was pretty good. what matt was wearing is probably the 5th time I seen him wear the black and red stripes. does he wash his clothes??? dan is looking great as ever. kind of reminds me of stone cold. but hey to me everyone does.

Ramo

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

any and all of those below who said this was the trios best record and that ANY of these are one of their best songs are deaf... sorry, kids

jwood (May 14, 2003)

I like this album. Sure it's no Goddamnit or Maybe I'll Catch Fire, but it is a quality album with a lot of catchy Trio signature sounding songs. I for one thought the studio add-in sounds and extra instruments fit in quite nicely. Definitely worth the purchase.

By the way, those of you who missed the Trio on Conan last night, Comedy Central airs the previous night's Conan show at around 6:00pm (Central). I forgot to tape it last night (past my bedtime), so I'll be taping it today.

Good review.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Pretty good cd, gotta love the trio...

Anyone else find the line "just one more line" (blue in the face) a bit interesting, considering matt's purported cocaine use?

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

this is a good review, exactly how i feel about the cd but i dont call it 'good' at all. i've been a trio fan for years, and i thought FHTI was fucking good. you can't beat FUN songs like 'mr. chainsaw' and 'armageddeon.' thats what this cd is missing. skibas FUN songs. there are none. it's very dissapointing. even MICF, probally their darkest album, has un songs "keep 'em coming' and "radio" i would throw in that catagory.

wyzo, this comment is dead on:
if you skip the first track, which sounds way too much like private eye reborn with even sillier lyrics, its a decent album.

i was trying to tell that to my girlfriend the first time i heard that song a month ago. she wouldn't belive me.

when she heard this cd for the first time, she turned off my cars cd played and was incredibly mad at how bad skibas voice is now. it's just terrible.

anyway, there is one good thing about this cd, and thats "every thug needs a lady" sure the acoustic guitar sucks, but once dan starts singing, it's the only song on the album that reminds me of alkaline trio.

on a final note, this album has the absolute worst alkaline trio lyrics ever. sure 'washed it down with a silver bullet and two vicodin' is cool, but the rest of the album is just trash.

thank you for letting me rant.

Ak3atarisriot (May 14, 2003)

sorry 3 1/2 miss counted

Ak3atarisriot (May 14, 2003)

now see this review sucks, if ur gonna trash a band throughout the entire review then give it 4 1/2 it doesnt make sense but anyway yeah this CD is amazing im still trying to decid if Goddamnit is better then this i donno the dan songs on this CD are a lot better but yea this CD rules

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

i thought the performance on conan was ok at best. a little lackluster. a bit disappointing. the song just sounded off for some reason.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Absolutely amazing, Good Mourning is prolly the trios best album to date, dan has the best songs on this CD, But continental, and Blue in the face are absolutely brilliant

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Why did Matt dress like he was straight out of a Dr. Seuss book on Conan?

-sickboi

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Scott! What are you talking about, "stunk it up tonight"?.....Sure the bass drum was a little loud, but Dans backups were tight....Overall they pulled it off and even managed to impress me. Can't wait untill Monday in Toronto!

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Blue Carolina is the best song they have ever done. period.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

i missed them on conan, but thats cause i was seeing a preview screening of matrix reloaded. the story blows, but the action sequences are tight. the orgy scene is just dumb.
wyzo

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

i dont know, i disliked infirmary, but like this, even though i find nothing to relate to lyrically on this one, except im glad dan is happy now.

if you skip the first track, which sounds way too much like private eye reborn with even sillier lyrics, its a decent album.

Theres always the three b-sides left.

its strange, this record doesn't annoy me at all like infirmary, even though i think infirmary has more substantial lyrical content. i dont get it. And again, thank god dan is happy. there is hope for me still.
wyzo

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

It's really hard for me to listen to Alkaline Trio now. I've been with this band since they started off. Matt comes from my home town of McHenry, IL and his dad is my dentist for crying out loud. For so many years they were my all time favorite band. I thought that they could do no wrong. Sadly, they don't hold what they used to. Skiba's voice has gone to shit with all the coke he's done and a constant flow of drummers isn't doing them any favors either. I could care less with how big they've grown. Good for them; we all need to pay the bills. All I'm upset about is the music going down the tubes. This album blows.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

I think this is a damned good record. I should point out, though, to those who badmouth the production (and producer Jerry Finn), simply this: Finn is known for letting bands dictate the tone of things from the get-go. I heard that Fenix TX hardly saw him when they were tracking with him a few years ago; with this album, odds are that A3 made all the decisions, as opposed to being "tied to a chair."

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

well,this is one of the five best cd´s I have ever heard...the other four?
goddamnit
from here to infarmary
maybe I´ll catch fire
alkaline trio(s/t)

the best songs are all on black,fatally yours,continental,blue carolina,blue in the face and this could be love
I don´t know what else to say just that you really should go and buy this(good mourning)and all other cd´s by this band
it´s just fantastic punkrock/poppunk music!

yeah this review sux but I´m from Sweden and english is only my third language,what´s your excuse?(for writing shitty reviews)

come to think of it I´m probably the only alk3 fan in Sweden...so give it up for me!

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

I discovered this band a year ago through the Hot Water Music split. After hearing Hot Water Music do "Radio", I had to hear more of what Alkaline Trio sounded like. I downloaded a bunch of songs, then two months later I had all their albums. Out of all their albums "From Here To Infirmary" is by far their best work, hands fucking down.

I hear two different sounds coming from this album. There are Dan songs, and their are Matt songs, and not one song where they sound like they are both putting their two cents in. It's like having a great conversation where your simply waiting for the other person to finish speaking so you can say your piece.

I still enjoyed this cd alot, but anticipated so much more. I enjoyed "From here to infirmary" so much, and I expected this album to be just as good. As an Alkaline Trio fan I recommend this album, BUT it's just no "FHTI"...

:[Chris]:

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Well I eat my words. Im on the 3rd listen and its growing on me. It reminds me alot of Goddamnit produced x2, but yea it is growing on me alrite.

Much better than FHTI but not at the level of the previous 2 full lengths.

GROWING ON ME
-feedmynightmare

maverick (May 14, 2003)

Wow. "All On Black" is one of my favorite songs on this album, but man, the band stunk it up on Conan tonight.

-Scott

FortyMinutesWest (May 14, 2003)

Never got the hype surrounding this band.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

this is by far one of their best.

if you want less poished, then just go download their demos. There are no back ups, no fancy sampling, and no doubled up guitars. Just plain and simple songs.
After hearing those and then buying this, what a god damn difference for the better!!
Would rather have an album over produced than under produced.
As for the backups and the samples, it was very expected.
Live, they aren't very in key with anything, but somehow all their albums have sounded like they are, and u could use the 'over prduced sound' complaint for most of the albums.

Go get this album if you don't have it.

The nice part about the way the 'sound' is scattered is the fact that it doesn't sound like 1 long continuous song. Changes pace on every song, which makes me enjoy the album all that much more.

StabbingGoldfish (May 14, 2003)

I loved the skull in the pentragram on the drum head.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

i couldn't tell what the sticker said. i'm blind. but i thought they did well. of course no one sounds that great when they play on tv but i still enjoyed it.

-greyicewater

waste_elite (May 14, 2003)

just saw em play conan.

did anyone see the punkvoter.com sticker on skiba's guitar? i did.

TahoeJeff (May 14, 2003)

I really like this album alot. I cant really relate with evCerybody's dislike of FHTI. It was that album that got me hooked on the trio. I think all of their albums are great and Good Mourning is no exception. Just finished watching Conan...A3 performed all on black. Great song.

StabbingGoldfish (May 14, 2003)

Alkaine Trio - Worshipping Satan Has never been SO fun!

moldy (May 14, 2003)

its been growing on me all day i'll admit but im kinda disapointed that keith didnt get to do more than just scream a little on the chorus of we've had enough, when i read the article it sounded like he would be singing on most of the song, still a better album that fhti

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

you know i really dig this new alk3 cd, i think its great. im already thinking of what there next cd is gonna sound like. here is my prediction, since dan was in one of the best skapunk bands of all time and derek drummed on two of the greatest skapunk releases, wouldnt it make since if the alk3 just made a skapunk record. oh i think so!

KirbyPuckett (May 14, 2003)

When I first heard the Trio it was FHTIF and I hated it. I remember buying it, listening to it and tossing it aside. I kept looking at it, hearing so much about this band, every now and then I'd spin it and still hate it. Then I went on vacation and decided to take it w/ me and I realized how much I loved that CD. From there I went back and bought the back catalog and each release took a little time to grow on me. Atleast ten listens each until I really realized the magnitude of the music. Seeing we've all pretty much had this new record for quite some time today when I bought a copy of it, it clicked in my ear drums that this indeed is a really good release as well. Not as great as the others, but still I feel it's a well written and well played album.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(I was reading the lyrics at work and was told I worshiped Satan)

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

I burned this album about 3 weeks ago, and it has grown on me. Fatally Yours, Every Thug Needs a Lady, All on Black, Emma? Classics. I will be purchasing the CD this week.

If you want to complain about an overproduced album, go pickup the new Third Eye Blind.

Or, like me, steal it.

-- e-nizzle

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

well got it for 6.99 and i really like it and then i don't. songs like fatally wrong, this could be love, and all on black are great but overall this makes me want to pull out old AK3 and Tuesday stuff.

Ramo

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

$5.99, how can ya go wrong. this cd is fuckin good

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

this score is for the entire husker du catalogue
-pat

StratManX (May 14, 2003)

This is a pretty good album well except for the lyrics on "this could be love" those are just horrible.

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

Donner Party does suck... definately one of the worst Alkaline songs. What the fuck is that breathing sound thing towards the end. Awful

Anonymous (May 14, 2003)

I think this is just like all the older alkaline trio stuff. sure, it may be a little over produced, but it's still a great cd.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

"The overproduction actually brings out the darkness very well"

worst comment of the day so far.

I liked the early version of the album ALOT more than the released one.

-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I had all of the songs downloaded weeks before the cd came out. I went and bought as soon as i got up. I got to my car, and the cd still blew me away even though i heard every song before. The overproduction actually brings out the darkness very well. And the artwork is worth the 7.99 i spent at best buy.

waste_elite (May 13, 2003)

i was pleasantly surprised by this album, i've only listened to it twice so far but i already like it a hell of a lot more than From Here to Infirmary (which i loathed). somehow, i don't think they'll ever reclaim the wit and energy they had on Goddamnit or Maybe I'll Catch Fire, but this is defenitely a step above their last album. as aubin said, the ridiculous amount of harmony they try to pack into every song is kind of annoying. they were better as a no frills punk rock band that relied on strong songwriting as opposed to studio techniques. nonetheless, its a good album. these are some of dan's best songs. matt sounds hoarse, i kinda like it.

best line:

"I shat the bed and laid there in it thinking of you wide awake for days"

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Probably the best review on this entire site, touchee

StabbingGoldfish (May 13, 2003)

I totally feel the same way about this album. I do feel like the trio are friends of mine. They have so many good cds under their belt filled with amazing songs. When I got an advanced copy of this disc about 2 weeks ago, I was pretty dissappointed with it in general, but it stayed in my cd player and has been growing on me ever since. This is not thier best cd, but it's not horrible. I have no problem accepting this into my cd case next to the rest of thier releases.

ClidesdaleScale (May 13, 2003)

I agree with this review so far, but all of the Trio's stuff has a tendency to grow on me. I remember the first time I heard Goddamnit I hated it. It grew on me like a viral attack and that's all I ever listened to for weeks. After being an established trio fan, I got pissed off at how accessible their sound became on Infirmary, but it grew on me and it frequents my CD rotation. It has some of the best Dan songs, another innocent girl and crawl, and some decent matt songs, stupid kid and private eye. I predict the same will happen for me with Good Mourning. I already love this could be love. That's the great thing about the trio, they grow on you slowly and you love them more and more with every listen.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Totally unrelated but thinking of the trio and you can only think of the video for Goodbye Forever. Damn that video is awesome.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

One word...ORGASISM! This CD is brilliant. Yes Alkaline Trio is one of my favorite bands, so I may be a little overly partial, but out of all their cd's this one has NO SKIP over songs. To the reviewer, how is "Maybe I'll catch fire" better than "From here to infirmary"? I like MICF, it's really dark, but kinda slow and boring at times. Who craes iif it's over produced? It's Jerry Finn, he over produces everything ( he did make Blink182's Take off your pants and jacket sound really good though).
Good Mourning is musically, and lyrically Matt, Dan and Derek at their best. Matt was listening to alot of Ramones and Husker Du when making this CD, as you can hear a large range of influences from straight up punk musicanship to emo, to a few little new wave type sounds. Can't wait to see them June 3rd in Houston.

Poop McPoop

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

"The 9 is for the album. I agree with some of things said but this is a cd I really enjoy listening to and think its some of their best work yet. I got into these guys when Fire came out but the truth of it is I think that fire was the most up and down cd. Some of the songs (radio, fire) are the best stuff ever but others (Aurora) are horrible. I was happy with Infirmary and I love this one. Everyone seems to agree this is some of the best work Dan has ever done and yet they want to pan the cd. Well, he is half the band and why does he have to string it together with Matt? As for Matt. Well,the song Donner Party sucks. Bust aside from that I would say its solid work. I think the problem with this band is people do love them, so we tend to pick everything they do apart line by line. We have listened to this album from the time it was just demos. Take a step back and listen again. Great work from a great band.
Steven"

well said steven well said

lieutenant (May 13, 2003)

Hmm.

This may just be one of the greatest albums the Trio has to offer. We've heard a lot from this band and they do not disappoint, but at the same time I feel a bit empty. I have listened to this album once and I have fell in love with it, but I wish it could have been so much more nontheless. All on Black is simply amazing, but the lyrics on This Could Be Love are just too fun. That is a good thing. However, I never would have thought Dan's songs would be the weakest on a Trio album. All in all though, these guys are like my brothers and I still love them. I am well aware that sounds lame.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I am absolutely loving this album right now. I've been spinning it in my CD player for about a month now and it still rocks the casbah. I'm a huge fan of older Alkaline, all of the albums have their great points. Honestly, as amazing as Godammit was, I wouldn't want another one. Bands progress well, as in this case, poorly, as in the new AFI, or stay the same, as in Pennywise. I think this CD is a progress from Infirmary and still kicks my ass every time i hear it. The bells are off putting at first but now I love em. I Cant wait to watch Conan tonight.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I'll admit I wasn't really into Alkaline Trio and had only heard a few songs by them.

This is the first cd I got of theirs and I'm a big fan. "We've Had Enough" is a great song and I've fallen in love with the chorus of "All On Black". The rest of the cd is solid.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

bands self producing there records is a good move. this record is pretty good.......and the cymbals suck on From Here as they also suck on AFI's the art of drowning
-pat

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I'm glad someone noticed the cymbol, thanks MorphineSandwhich. In response to people saying the people are blaming the production to much, and since I said something about the production, I'd just like to note that the production is to a point where it takes away from the band's sound. The songs lack the emotion and the realness that made the previous work great. These are good songs, but it could have been done better. And I always wonder if they were happy after making the past two albums. Also, the split with HWM is fantastic.

evil_ash_2600 (May 13, 2003)

Yes i downloaded all the songs from this cd months ago, most of which are great, and alot better then FHTI which was also a really good album (not the best) But I went to buy this cd today and every place I went too was sold out, I later found out from my local Indie record store was there was a fuck up in the shipping and empty cases were sent to stores... kinda weird. So now I have to wait til tomorrow to get my hands on this. Damn it all to hell.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Good album... their best? Not in my opinion, but realistically, with Goddamnit, MICF, S/T collection, FHTI and Good Mourning, only one can really be their best. The chances of Good Mourning being the most superior are -- surprise -- about 1 out of 5. My guess is that is about how many listeners will love this album the most, maybe they are the people who love it so much they won't bother to read a review along with others' opinions on it.

There are some great songs here -- We've Had Enough, All On Black, Emma, etc. -- and some weaker ones... but I think that should be expected. Personally I wasn't a fan of Southern Rock, She Took Him To The Lake or Another Innocent Girl, but the albums that they appeared on were still of a high quality.

Lastly, people should really stop complaining about the production. I found that the less slick production days of Goddamnit suited the Trio, but I don't think they'll be sounding like that anytime soon. Let me point out that recording values usually increase, not decrease, as bands get bigger, and newsflash, Alkaline Trio is getting bigger.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

This CD really is amazing. It's not to pretentious, but at the same time shows they still rock with their dark content and personal lyrics. They are not young guys anymore, they have matured. Hell, Andriano got married.

Anyway, give this some time, I haven't heard anyone say they have given this CD the chance it deserves yet to grow on them. They still have those Trio hooks that will grab you in at first, and then you slowly notice some of the lyrics. I love all their releases available from these guys, including the Skiba solo tracks. The CD does not have any bonus material; I.E. music videos, artwork, studio pictures. This could be a good or bad thing, depends on how you see it(anything extra in my opinion is good though).

I think the polished sound suits them well. They have shown they are REAL musicians in their past works and now they are just trying to really bring their artwork to the table, and personally I think it's been getting better and better. Don't listen to me though, check out their back collection and get to know this band.

-Anthony

cubaricho (May 13, 2003)

anyone notice how dan has a lisp?

and I'm glad this review is finally up after I sent one in almost five weeks ago.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

'so, where is Tuesday? I heard rumors...someone make it happen...'

really? that would be a little unexpected.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I don't agree with the review, but I don't think the review is shitty.

I think this blows FHTI out of the water. FHTI had filler, and this album has all good songs in my opinion. I think with FHTI they looked at it as their shot to be big time and it didnt happen. This album seems to be more natural. I like it a lot.

paperlantern (May 13, 2003)

I like the fact that these guys have gotten this far when they dont know what a C chord looks like (read AP this month).
That is punk rock.
Oh and its nice to see a very well written review, with a funny open for a change...

shanevillain (May 13, 2003)

I love this album. it sounded like the band was a whole. If I was in a band like Alkaline Trio.... i wouldn't want to make a record that keeps on sounding the same over and over....examples New Found Glory

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I got an advanced copy of this album like a month ago, so i have had time to listen to it and when i first listened to it i was put off, but after about the third listen everything clicked and i realized how great of an album this is. so for those people who are disappointed, give it time and you soon will discover the underlying greatness.

aubin (May 13, 2003)

For me the problem wasn't the production all by itself, but the fact that it obscured the songs. I bet the songs will sound a million times better live.

I want to hear Alkaline Trio, not Jerry Finn behind the console.

RaNcIdPuNx (May 13, 2003)

I will have to disagree with the people who dont like the album. I think its really good and i think all of there CDs and EPs have been good and its probly not possible for these guys to make a bad album. This is good stuff. Better than most of the albums released so far this year.

-RaNcId PuNx

lieutenant (May 13, 2003)

This is an absolutely pointless comment. First thing today, I have picked up this album. However, with the mess that is finals, this is my first chance tonight to listen to it. I really, really, really, hope I will be the only one in the world who ends up liking this album more than Maybe I'll Catch Fire or Goddamnit.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

it's official, rock n roll is completely dead. And I'm not talking about Trio record I'm talking about people who listen to music. Punk fans are now more pretentious then bands now. Do you think back when the early Descendents and black flag records came out people were talking about the production? No they talked about the music and how it made them forget about their shitty lives. Now everyone is a Rolling Stone critic. Get off your fucking high horses and just enjoy the music.
If you think you can do better at makinga record then fucking make it yourself.
and for all the kids who will buy this record and blast it in their cars and play it with their friends and sing along out loud for everyone to hear, GOD BLESS YOU. You are what music is about. I hope you are still out there somewhere.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I couldnt agree more with the person that posted previously. This album doesnt have the dark sarcastic lyrical genious that goddamnit and maybe ill catch fire had. This a decent album, but it seems like theyve hit their peak already and are trying too hard to recapture that which can not be duplicated.

-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

The lyrics just don't have that biting wit anymore. Lines that just make you laugh under your breath because they're just absurd or sharply sarcastic. Songs one and two are the only ones that come close (the 4 steps are quite amusing), but nothing seems to come close to the majority of skiba songs on the first 3 full-lengths.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

jee they sounded a lot emo b4.......but now they sound good....whats the deal

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

This review is really horrible, I'm sorry. Not enough detail or anything. Maybe Scott should write one for it. personally, I believe the cd is some of their best lyrics ever and the music is pretty amazing too. Continental and All on Black are among my favorites of theirs. Thank you.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I thought that "I Lied My Face Off" was produced perfectly, yet no one mentions how it's their best release...

I still love em, but what was wrong with the production there? It wasn't as raw as early stuff, but not as poppy as now..It was pretty much the peak of their musical output...(along with "My Friend Peter").

the trio are still going strong, but not AS strong...

so, where is Tuesday? I heard rumors...someone make it happen...

Jim

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

It's 2003, what the fuck, do you expect albums to sound like demos or what?

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

When reading a review, I really like to hear a bit more in detail what exactly is GOOD about the album, and not just "this is a fine, albeit flawed...". You focus to much on the negatives man (especially since you give it quite a high mark in the end), I hate to see someone not into the Trio reading it and being put off by it.

moldy (May 13, 2003)

i thought it was a good album and ive been liking it alot more than infirmary but i think the production is killing them, the older albums didnt have as much and really made the songwriting standout, but thats just me i hate records that are too slick it just takes away from the band and makes the studio's tools the center of attention not the songs. Good review it sums up alot of my feelings toward this album and band

preacher (May 13, 2003)

I can see why you think the songs are a bit over-the-top production wise, but I don't think it's that weird that the guys want to expand their sound a little and put in a few (well, a lot actually) background vocals here and there. All in all, a really good review. And I thoroughly enjoy the album. I think Derek does an excellent job, and Finn has put a little bit of the old Trio in the sound, and a little bit of the new. Sure, the songs aren't as raw as they used to be, but as you said, this isn't any one of their old albums. I do agree with the album sounding disjointed, especially lyrics wise. Not that weird considering Dan as happily married and Matt is..well, listen to Blue in the Face. But Dans songs are amazing on this record (I usually strongly prefer Matts to his), and music wise I think there is a red line there. After all, they are the ones who decide how the trio should sound like, not we. I think this album has some fantastic songs, that in my book surely will become classics. I've been into Alk3 for a long time, and I like the direction they are going. But maybe that's just me...

tenderbransonx (May 13, 2003)

The 9 is for the album. I agree with some of things said but this is a cd I really enjoy listening to and think its some of their best work yet. I got into these guys when Fire came out but the truth of it is I think that fire was the most up and down cd. Some of the songs (radio, fire) are the best stuff ever but others (Aurora) are horrible. I was happy with Infirmary and I love this one. Everyone seems to agree this is some of the best work Dan has ever done and yet they want to pan the cd. Well, he is half the band and why does he have to string it together with Matt? As for Matt. Well,the song Donner Party sucks. Bust aside from that I would say its solid work. I think the problem with this band is people do love them, so we tend to pick everything they do apart line by line. We have listened to this album from the time it was just demos. Take a step back and listen again. Great work from a great band.
Steven
www.murdertheturtle.com

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Continental and BLue Carolina are awesome songs

I can hardly wait until i feel the sun and your lips both pressing on my skin
-the best line in the album

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I have a copy that I burned about a month or so ago and it must be the demos because this version is very raw and definately not overproduced...maybe i'll just hold on to this copy.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Fucking bullshit. I think this is some of the trio's best stuff yet. And no, i didn't just hear them for the first time yesterday. I love how the production is blamed so much... maybe they've matured musically. I think this album contains some of the best stuff I have heard from Dan yet.

Why would you say you loved the album at the end of tearing it apart?

shitty review.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Yeah, I noticed that cymbol too. Pisses me off.

-MorphineSandwich

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Good review, summed up a lot of my thoughts on the album very well.
But, there is one thing that really annoys me.
The cover is horrible, but the cover for the liner notes is amazing, why wasn't that the cover? I hate when bamds put their faces or in this case their whole body on the cover, I also hate digi packs and some of the black is already scratched and shows white. When will people learn digi packs suck(I'm almost obsessive compulsive about scratches and stuff).

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

Rating this a "1" just feels right. These guys blow.

katie4213 (May 13, 2003)

very well written review. i fell the same way about this album, but i am letting it take me over like the plague. . . you just have to love the trio.

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

album sucks... that is all

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

THIS REVIEW IS FANTASTIC!

- Mr. T

Anonymous (May 13, 2003)

I'm completely agree with the words on the production. That's immediately what I thought while on my first listen. I just got the record today, and this review pretty much spells out how I felt. And I was wondering, did anyone notice that goddamn cymbol on Infirmary? I can take nails on a chalk board, but not that cymbol.

-kotr

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