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Silverstein - When Broken is Easily Fixed (Cover Artwork)

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Silverstein: When Broken is Easily FixedWhen Broken is Easily Fixed (2003)
Victory Records

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Contributed by: MeganMegan
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Victory Records is leaning towards the pop punk side even more than usual these days. With the release of Silverstein's third album "When Broken Is Easily fixed" its easy to begin criticizing this move on Victory's part. Where other bands such as Taking Back Sunday are able to make appealing pop-p.
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Victory Records is leaning towards the pop punk side even more than usual these days. With the release of Silverstein's third album "When Broken Is Easily fixed" its easy to begin criticizing this move on Victory's part. Where other bands such as Taking Back Sunday are able to make appealing pop-punk that has a somewhat different twist to it, this band fails terribly.

This disc is a formulaic "hey let's take some crappy generic music, call it a blend of post-hardcore emo and punk and hope the kids are stupid enough not to realize our lack of talent." The songs consist of vocalist Shane Told bitching about his broken heart. Get over it Silverstein, its all been done before, and far better than how you do it.

The drums on this album are weak and forgettable, in the song "November" they all but disappear. "November" also showcases the band's weak lyrics: "I know you cannot hide. Over and over and over I've tried. It broke my heart. It felt so good to see you. I've never been one to put my trust in. When did I become so weak or have I always been?" Weak. That's the perfect word to describe this band.

Also, since album art is such a hot topic around here, it seems necessary to mention that this cover art sucks. It's absolutely hideous. Oh look, the robot is ripping out his broken heart. This album is a waste of shelf space. The guitars sound like all the other shit out there. Absolutely nothing distinguishes this band from any other in their genre. Except perhaps for the fact that if possible, Silverstein is even worse than your average pop-punk calamity.

 

 
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blatz89 (October 19, 2011)

It's not that it's nessicarily bad.. It's just kind of generic. The reviewer may have been a BIT too harsh, but the most that I would give this is a 1.5/5, and this is coming from a fan of Dear Whoever and I Have Dreams.

XxSilversteinxX (May 11, 2010)

I love this band but this is ther worst album but the fucker who wrote this reveiw knows nothing about the band to be able to critize the album art and all that , have some respect and silverstein isnt trying to be emo they said they dont care what genre people give them , anyway i thought it was still a good album and your a fucking douche bag

justalc (March 19, 2009)

Agreed! This album, and band, are shite!

starchild (June 8, 2007)

Silverstein in my heart :'o I love everything they've done.

Ministry4390 (December 2, 2006)

You're a chick. Chicks should only be allowed to review Britney Spears albums.

JustAnEmoTrobbit (July 15, 2006)

i think that this was a Amazing album and if you think its not then your just a jack ass

Anonymous (June 5, 2006)

Having this piece of crap classified as screamo completely destroys the entire genre that has seen many amazing bands and no silverstein is not one of them.They are not even hardcore damn.Of coz HH is the worst band.Silverstein Is juz a bad band.

Anonymous (January 25, 2006)

kick ass album another emo / post hardcre triumph because of this album my heart bleeds no more

Anonymous (January 21, 2006)

This cd is awesome. One of the best debut screamo albums ever. And by the way this cd does have some hardcore elements to it. Don't try to deny that Bleeds No More and The Weak and the Wounded have edge to them. Just because you dont like the band doesnt mean you have to be so biased as to call them soft

Anonymous (November 14, 2005)

I'm also into post-hardcore. this isnt that, it is merely shit crammed into a CD case and people just gobble it up becuase it has that very original 2 part sing 1 part forced scream that everyone loves these days

Angel-Jin (September 20, 2005)

I'm into the emo, post-hardcore shit. Sorry ladies and gents, but someone has to be scene here, and unfortunately, it's so me.

Well, I liked this CD. Although you all make very good points, and I start to see "What the fuck, you are singing about how your girlfriend ran off to Germany with that guy from the Chinese Restaurant!!!" I still like some of the songs. Although it is generic "You broke my heart, my whiny voice SCREAM SCREAM SCREAM!" They have their moments, and the moments are pretty good if you ask me.

crazytoledo (September 12, 2005)

Yay they should crush your nuts.

But these emo people dont have the problem.

SO it makes you wonder.

And proves this fact:

Emo = Girls disguised as girly men

Anonymous (September 6, 2005)

sigh...I too was once into the crap emo shit..(I still hated the whole cross dressing thing though)...then I met the lead singer @ warped tour 2005....he wuz in pants that were so tight that if I wore them my nuts would have been oblimerated...his shirt wuz so small that I could see his stomache....WHAT FUCKING SHIT!!!I HATE FUCKING EMO PUSSYs LIKE THAT!!!!Thank GOD i got back into punk...and no...I don't mean blink-182...I mean NOFX,GERMS,Agent Orange,the sex pistols, and the Misfits....EMO SUCks...ALL OF YOU EMO PUSSYs! GO CUT YERSELF TO DEATH!!!!
Vaughan
p.s.just try talking shit to me about how emo rules...it only makes you look stupid,especially when you get older and think about what you said.."omg! this guy is insulting this good band?!"....but considering you don't yer probably dead...cause you cut yerself so much that you bled to death.

md40_07 (September 4, 2005)

i'll admit that song isn't very good. But there are a lot of high points on the album...but the new video for Smile In Your Sleep sucks

crazytoledo (August 27, 2005)

Minus Ides of March (or w/e the song is called, i forgot), it'd get a 2 1/2, I just hate the song so much that other shoud know it sucks.

md40_07 (August 24, 2005)

yeah...well Your Sword vs. My Dagger is an awesome song. not only that but to be a reviewer you can't say 'well this song takes off 2 1/2 already' you have to listen to the whole CD and then rate it...and i'm not saying you didn't do taht with your rating but i mean just by listening to a song ya can't say 'well that takes away 2 stars'

crazytoledo (August 23, 2005)

"Ides of March" equal instant minus 2 1/2 points.

md40_07 (August 23, 2005)

well your getting closer. i would give there new one a 3 1/2 or 4...pretty good CD

crazytoledo (August 22, 2005)

Score for their new album.

md40_07 (August 12, 2005)

i like Silverstein, i kno they have there moments where they are to popish but Smashed to Pieces and about half the others on the CD are really good....i know you said that toledo so dont go crazy on us all again

crazytoledo (August 10, 2005)

Scenestein is bisexual. They have a few moments but mainly suck.

Like I said.

Anonymous (August 10, 2005)

Are you two fellas done blowing eachother yet? Because I have something to say:
.
SCENESTEIN IS GAY.

md40_07 (August 10, 2005)

Man...you called me a parrot...i guess i have nothing else to say since that is the best comeback a 16 year old can say. Well your a butthead then...

crazytoledo (August 3, 2005)

Well normally when you agree you state you agree and not repeat what the fuck I said unless your a fucking parrot.

md40_07 (August 2, 2005)

I mean, i know your not used to being right and someone agreeing with you, but this is what it feels like...don't get used to it

md40_07 (August 2, 2005)

I was agreeing cockfag

crazytoledo (August 2, 2005)

That's what I just fucking stated.

md40_07 (August 1, 2005)

End Of Heartache isn't bad but it isn't there best

crazytoledo (August 1, 2005)

Sevenfold has "Beast and the Harlot," the rest of the album is a Guns'n'Roses rip.

You probably spinn "End of Heartache," which isn't bad, but the older KSE is much better. While Jones is equivalent to Leach (think thats his last name), Adam was a better drummer and their s/t on Ferrt and their RR debut owned their latest effort.

md40_07 (July 31, 2005)

no, i hate Sevenfold. I like Killswitch Engage and Atreyu...thats about it really and i know Atreyu isn't heavy really but thats it. And if you think i only like bands that are mainstream here are some bands i like that didn't "sell out"

The Format, Anatomy Of A Ghost, The Kinison, and With Broken Wings

just because i like HH doesn't mean i automatically like mainstream stuff...and for the thousandth time i liked them right when i heard them, it had nothing to do with anyone elses opinion

crazytoledo (July 30, 2005)

And I am a dude.

Also, if you listened to metal, you'd be all over Avenged Sevenfold I bet.

crazytoledo (July 30, 2005)

You cant sell out because a song got popular. You sell out when you change your music to stay in the mainstream crowd.

Anyways, HH is terrible. I can at least stand Silverstein...

md40_07 (July 30, 2005)

No, i'm not a girl. Are you? I happen to have liked Hawthorne Heights before they "sold out" which I admit they did a little bit by going on MTV and Fuse so much. But just because they did that doesn't mean I am going to stop liking them as a band. That is a gay thing to do and just proves you only listen to what is "in" at the time just to please other people.

crazytoledo (July 27, 2005)

Do it.

Anyways, the Warped Tour is going way down hill...

3 vocalists thing got me laughing. Because one sings and whines and the rest do backing vocals, but Victory uses it as a nice little gimmick. A lot of hardcore type bands have 'gang' vocals and their labels dont say, listen to the hardcore band with 4 vocalists.

Like you bought the reissue.

Are you a girl? If not, dear god, Im gonna run away if your not a girl...

md40_07 (July 25, 2005)

hey crazytoledo, i just saw Hawthorne Heights at Warped...you can say whatever you want about them selling out or whatever, but they put on a hell of a show. Everyone was going nuts, and not only that they sounded great. Espically for a group with 3 vocalists. And if i were to review the re-issue it would be a 3 and a half stars...the footage was cool but not amazing

crazytoledo (July 25, 2005)

New Silvertsien song is slow, dammit it all, it's ok at best, but I want all the songs to be like "Smashed into Pieces" and "Hear Me Out"

crazytoledo (July 23, 2005)

Anyways, MD, why not review the HH reissure and give it a 4 stars and see yourself ripped to shreds. Ill laugh if you consider yourself punk... ROFFLE.

md40_07 (July 19, 2005)

whoever the person was who said the thing about "ppl with the problem with the review hated the CD" is a dumbass, i'm pretty damn sure he said that and i kno i'm repeating him by saying this but god man if reading is your friend then how about you read the things posted before posting this crap

Anonymous (July 16, 2005)

Well megan heres the thing i have nothing against your thoughts... or anything but why did you have to bash the whole vicorty records....many amazing bands are signed by vicorty such as Atreyu, aiden, bayside, comeback kid, and hawthrone heights. i could keep going but i thought i should get to my point now...you may not like this band and so may many other people....but i dont like say...umm simple plan...but if i wrote a review i sure as hell would not give then a half star they would be getting at least a 2 and a half or 3, becuase they are talented...i personaly just dont like the way they put their songs together, but they are singed and have Cds out sooo that means someone out there likes them and they have talent! anyways i hope i never see another shitty ass review like this and give the bands you dont like some fucking credit!

and Ps dont be such a bitch you never say anything bad about peoples art, it comes from the heart, it comes from them....that art isss that person.!

crazytoledo (July 12, 2005)

people with the problem of the review hated the cd...

If thats to me, thats what I fucking said.

Anonymous (July 7, 2005)

people with the problem of the review hated the cd...

reading is your friend...

md40_07 (July 6, 2005)

I meant legally too. On Itunes or something like that you can get basically any song on there. Some of the people liked Evergreen Terrance but just hated how u talked about every song on the entire CD.

crazytoledo (July 5, 2005)

Download legally dumbass, not everyone wants to break the law or goes around saying they do because the RIAA probably pays bunch of little pussies to go on sites like this and look for people saying they download shit illegally...

and the thing is, people didnt like thr eview because they didnt like evergreen terrace, if you dont agree with a review, you hate on the reviewer...

like you did on bruans review of hh, now is he a bad reviewer? nope.

You just got pissy that a band you like is hated by the reviewer...

md40_07 (July 5, 2005)

by looking at the responces to your Evergreen Terrance review it seems like you deserve a half star as a reviewer. They seemed to LOVE you!

md40_07 (July 5, 2005)

the best song can be downloaded? I think any song can be downloaded

crazytoledo (July 4, 2005)

a half star for buying it since the best song and an ok song can be downloaded and the other 1 or 2 songs really arent worth the sticker price.

thank good for our friendly internet...

brining music to the masses...

md40_07 (July 3, 2005)

even if u think those are the only 3 good songs...u have to agree that it deserves better than half a star

crazytoledo (July 1, 2005)

A lot of the songs are emo popish and suck.

"Hear Me Out," "Bleed no More," and "Smashed into Pieces" are like the only good songs...

md40_07 (July 1, 2005)

How can you even call this pop? I know that some of these new punk bands are leaning on the pop side, but i dont care if they change the genere, screw the genere all it is is a way to label music and if a band doesnt sound like u think they will they all of the sudden suck

PoPSeCKeL (June 13, 2005)

not great, not good, but not horrible....they really kick ass live...part of the score is for that...only 4 or 5 good song on their record....but they all sound really good in show!!!

Foaming_97 (June 6, 2005)

I dont want originality. I dont want anything new. I dont want this band to be something different in their genre. I want a bunch of kick ass bands that do the same thing. Heres one of them.

Foaming_97 (June 6, 2005)

You.....Suck

joeg (May 26, 2005)

wow this band is horrid. bottom feeder crap along with the rest of the victory label. avoid at all costs.

fritobandito (May 25, 2005)

as much as I probably shouldn't, I really like this band.

and I cannot believe you're criticizing the artwork, it's one of my favorite covers ever.

crazytoledo (May 19, 2005)

Song like "Smashed Into Pieces" are good and there are several other tracks worthy on the album.

But half of the album sucks and in the end, I'm happy I downloaded it instead of buying it...

Anonymous (April 3, 2005)

Anyone who talks bad about this gnarly band should go find a cliff and go jump off of it (without a parachute).
THIS BAND ROCKS!

Anonymous (April 2, 2005)

wut the fuck ppl, this band rocks. i bet theyre better than all of u. i thank u a who is still fans of this band. but those who hate this badn fuck u. theyre emocore at ther best and they rock cuz of it. and if u hate them maybeits cuz ura hardcore mother fucker and cant stand emo. i love emo and screamo rock and they fit the correct beings of being here to rock on

Anonymous (March 29, 2005)

when i first started to listen to this cd i thought it was pretty good , but after i got into it i realized that this band is horrible . how the lead singer is the singer and the hardcore voice, also i saw them live and they sounded and looked horrible,they try to be like the average screamo band,but this band fails terribly.

Anonymous (March 20, 2005)

how can you call silverstein pop-punk, there is way to much screaming for this to be classified in that genre. the lead singer is very emotional and intense, which is needed to produce good music. yeah, he bitches, so what, when i hear him, there is no mistake about what he's talking about or how he is feeling. they rock, and rock hard, if you listen to every track all the way through. i feel this is screamo at its best. check out allmusic.com for a more accurate review than punknews

Anonymous (February 1, 2005)

Hey, DerRanGeD DugGiE, or can I call you assmachine? Ok, heres the thing...

Ever notice how when someone says a band sucks it automatically does not belong on a message board? Everything has to be positive? Well, if that were true there would be no such thing as constructive criticism, or interestingj ournalism for that matter.

In the end, Silverstein just suck big fat smelly burlington donkey balls.

Anonymous (January 17, 2005)

one of the worst cds i've ever heard.

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

ok, here's the deal
you go buy yourself a guitar
or any instrument for that matter
go write your own goddamn fucking music
see if you do any better than them.
if you fail,
stick whatever instrument you purchased
up your ass
thank you

DerRanGeD DugGiE

ThursdayIsStillACrime (November 7, 2004)

This my friends, is Screamo at it's finest. Passionate when needed, heavy at the right moments. A perfect combination of melody and power make one great album, Rock on Silverstein.

Anonymous (November 4, 2004)

I don't care how hard Silverstein worked to get this far. I am from Southern Ontario and have seen these assclowns play WAY too many times then I would like to count as they like to tag along with actually talented bands (like .moneen.). Horrible generic crap which has RUINED southern ontario. You should see it, these douchebags totally annhilated the scene forwarding it into fashioncore faster than you can imagine. So bad, I hope they stop making music soon... actually no... because if they do, they will break up and form other groups that will be even worse (i.e. Grade - Kyle Bishop = Somehow Hollow*HORRIBLE). You stupid kids should drop dead. I built this scene, give it back.

Anonymous (October 11, 2004)

Wow, what's with all the hostility? This record is truly awful. Silverstein are a waste of space, as are their fans. In fact, I think all Silverstein fans should imitate the happenings on the cover and tear out their hearts. It's not like they're contributing to anything useful in society. Fucking douches.

-Chinatown

Anonymous (September 12, 2004)

silverstein kicked some serious ass at warped tour, megan go fuck yourself!

Anonymous (September 9, 2004)

this CD rocks and u megan need to slit your wrists and hang yourself and die a slow painful death, SILVERSTEIN ROCKS!

Anonymous (September 6, 2004)

your fucking worse dumbass, silversteing fuckin kicks ass

Anonymous (September 3, 2004)

the correct term would be emocore... i believe... but yes these guys rock my socks... pop punkwhat a dumb cunt...

Anonymous (August 15, 2004)

i'd rather listen to silverstein bitching about heartbreak than your cunt ass bitching about how "terrible" this is.

Anonymous (July 23, 2004)

wow silverstein is amazing screw megan she obviously doesn't know good music if she doesn't like them thats fine but she needs to at least respect their talent cuz i know she couldn't do any better and the cover art is maybe the best i've ever seen also she said its their third album if thats true some one please inform me of the first two cuz these guys are awesome

Anonymous (July 20, 2004)

I need tp write another one...megan, you're the biggest fucking idiot ever. kill yourself, please!

Anonymous (July 20, 2004)

silverstein isnt pop punk you dumbass. they're awesome so you can shut the hell up, you know nothing.

Anonymous (July 16, 2004)

oops i forgot to score, my bad. so here it is^

Anonymous (July 16, 2004)

wow buddy, you are the pinnacle of moronality. i hope that you arent as stupid as you apear to be. this band is one of the most talented things ive seen to come out of victory records and they have more fans than you have brain cells, which isnt saying much for silverstein.

titsandtats (June 28, 2004)

are you serious? no really.
you are, arent you.
shitty review.

Anonymous (June 27, 2004)

the art sucks? you suck! it's a waist of space? your queer ass reveiw is a waist of space. its obvious that alot of people listen to silvestien so fuck you, go take you review and fuck it! i would like to see you draw a picture just as good as that my friend or why dont you make a c.d. well your at it. you cant, so how about you dont make fun of people's work if you cant accomplish half of what they have done, it appears to me that all you do is sit on your ass and make fun of peoples stuff, well, fuck you amigo.

slave_to_the_pavement (June 27, 2004)

i love this band, its not pop punk its emo, and im looking forward to seeing them at warped tour this year. i own the cd and its awesome. im open to anyting whether it be ska, punk or emo and you should too before you start bashing a band or lable. and i like the vocals the guy can sing and scream, can you?

Anonymous (June 22, 2004)

idiot who cant handle it.

Anonymous (June 21, 2004)

Silvertein is fucking awsome. Go suck dick megan

Anonymous (June 2, 2004)

yawn

fucking stupid reviewers

either they go all pitchforkmedia on us or simply write stupid ass shit like this

get a fucking life

the cover art rules

Anonymous (January 5, 2004)

This review is waaaay off base.

This band has talent. I like the record.

Anonymous (July 10, 2003)

i love silverstein .. I think this album is very good actually .. but you know .. tastes differ .. you like cock .. I like pussy .. same difference

this album is actually playing now :P

i like them alot ...
and me being a graphic designer just LOVE the cover art.. it's so clever and it's style is very unique .. and the colours work extremely well together

have a beer and relax man

~spk

Anonymous (June 30, 2003)

You stupid slut. That was the WORST review I have ever read. You didn't even have ONE good point. Silverstein is an awesome band, personally I prefer their old stuff more. Their lyrics are awesome, one of my favourite things about them, you could pick a shitty lyric from any band. I don't care if you don't like them, it just pisses me off that you wrote such a shitty quality review. I don't know if you were trying to be funny... but please... PLEASE... never... ever write a review again, for everyone's sake.

Anonymous (June 30, 2003)

sounds like a really shitty attempt at ripping off grade to me. that's already been done though, on victory none the less, and it was done long enough ago that we're all already over it just like i'm already over this band.

Anonymous (June 30, 2003)

you shouldn't bash Silverstein..if you were from this area, you could see how they worked their asses off for the past few years to get where they are. also, they have been doing the screamo thing A LONG time before many of those other band's you've heard have.

Anonymous (June 29, 2003)

Calling this CD pop-punk, shows how stupid you are.
Silverstein blends the combination of emo and hardcore together beautifully.
This CD is one of the best to be released in awhile.
These guys sound has evolved a lot considdering this band started as a side project.
they rock a great live set.
and this album is just phenominal.

Anonymous (June 29, 2003)

She can say whatever she wants. If you people are so confident that Silverstein doesn't suck, how come you're getting so riled over some criticism?

Anyways, very acurrate article, this band brings nothing new to the table and are quite bland as well. It's like they're a living parody of the emotional "hardcore" genre.

FlorianKoP (June 29, 2003)

This album is without doubt one of the best albums I ever heard! I really like the screamings and the emotional parts are just perfect! And then I still said nothing about the artwork, which is amazing! No, I'm crazy about this album and I think a lot of people are it together with me!

Anonymous (June 24, 2003)

alright... i dont think they're all bad... but the screams fuckin suck, worst i have ever heard... the guys voice cracks all the time when he screams and he sounds like he's just imitating some other band with it... glasseater, senses fail, thursday, all those other bands are much better

COBRA-VERDE (June 11, 2003)

Jewish emo... Is there really anything better?

Anonymous (June 4, 2003)

Meghan, you are an extremely dumb bitch. Your reviews are terrible and can't even be called "reviews". You should probably crawl into a hole and light yourself on fire. What a heartless piece of shit.

By the way, Silverstein is an amazing band and I think most people agree that the ONLY talent you have is being a huge fuck.

Anonymous (May 27, 2003)

great great great...besides the screaming.

Anonymous (May 27, 2003)

This album is pretty much mediocre, but it's not terrible by any means. It's a pop listen, background music. I've been a Silverstein fan for a good year now, largely because of their incredible independent EP When the Shadows Beam. Some say that their lyrics are cliched, but without straightforward lyrics, a band retains no singalong value. The Beatles are hailed as the best band in history, and their lyrics were either nonsensical or kindergarten.

This album's problems have nothing to do with the album art or even the band itself, really. This album's production is terrible. It hides the guitars behind enough distortion so as to make them almost absent, and cripples Shane's singing voice with synth.

Those of you'd who'd bash this band upon the strength of their (obviously Victory-forced, uneasy) full-length should listen to their second EP, it's truly a noteworthy album.

This album gets a 6 score from me despite terrible remakes of the best songs in their catalogue, because it has an amazing Kyle Bishop cameo on the title track (which I'm surprised nobody's mentioned) and one or two decent tracks.

I'm definitely looking forward to their next release, based upon the mid-size label potential shown here.

FortyMinutesWest (May 26, 2003)

But Victory Records sucks..

Anonymous (May 26, 2003)

all of you people love to criticize Victory Records on this site. Victory Records signs whoever they want to sign, regardless of who you think they should. Just because you might have pinned them as a certain sort of label and now they sign different kinds of bands just means they want to sign different kinds of bands. Were all of you always so "hardcore" or did your musical preference change over time? You are all too thick headed to take this post seriously anyway so it's just pointless. all of you people that love talking shit on Victory's new bands are probably just washed up scenesters wishing you were still in the late 80's or jealous lame kids in bad hardcore bands. Obviously Victory has begun a new chapter so you should just move on to the next cool label to follow.

Anonymous (May 25, 2003)

Even if you're going to write a hate review, at least make it a DECENT review. The review is complete garbage. Secondly, I don't know where the hell anyone figured this to be pop punk? I keep hearing Yellowcard thrown at these guys? What, all bands with these vocals and a violin are Yellowcard? Silverstein actually uses the violin well, and they make good emo songs. These guys are new-age EMO, not pop punk and not screamo. This reviewer, she's a nut.

Anonymous (May 25, 2003)

The record is decent. Nothing to have a child over, but it is better than a lot of things currently out there in this genere.

For the record, Silverstein was signed BEFORE Spitalfield, as their record has not come out yet.

What I always wonder is... why do certain people always feel the need to trash bands in genere's they don't really care for anyways? I don't spend time making Starting Line fans feel like shit for liking The Starting Line, just because they're not my thing.

If it's a personal goal to make musicians feel like complete shit for making/playing music they love, you should really start playing sports or something. Or at least start your own brilliant band to show the world how much better and more original you are than everyone else.

Sorry that was so long.

Anonymous (May 24, 2003)

give this album a 1/2 star, damn! How about your review. First you tackle the ethics of the label, then you go after the cliche's of the band. You take lyrics out of a random song, then you comment on how they are not as cool as...hmm, do you have better lyrics?? Wow, easy to judge huh? Lets put your material up on the chopping block. This band's signing is atleast in the right direction for Victory. Before they were signing bands like Spitalfield which just have no place in the Victory line-up in my opinion. But go ahead, rip Silverstein apart. I give this album 4 stars atleast

inagreendase (May 24, 2003)

i think the only reason she seems like she needs a tampax in this review is because of the vocals. nothing about this cd is pop-punk except the vocals so i can understand that gripe. but punk-pop vocals DO NOT, i repeat DO NOT make an entire cd that genre. get over yourself, you're not getting any indie cred for bashing a new 'screamo' band.

Anonymous (May 24, 2003)

Someone put a bullet in that whore's skull!

She must've went out with one of the guys in the band, and they dumped her.

That's the only explanation.

Keep rocking.

Anonymous (May 23, 2003)

Nah...I think they're all jewish.

Anonymous (May 23, 2003)

People: Originality is worthless. Not every band is completely original. Not one. Every single band in the entire frickin world has influences. Therefore: no band creates organized sound from nothing. Whoever it was that first starting clapping their hands together in some sort of pattern thousands upon thousands of years ago is the creator of all music. Everyone who has ever made music are just copying him/her. Thanks. -Moe

soulbleed (May 23, 2003)

you know, i agree with the fact that victory is trying to capitalize on the emo/pop-punk/poppy-hardcore craze, and that they should really stop. however, it doesn't mean the bands they're signing are -bad- necessarily, they're just not what we're used to. this band has talent, and while they're not original - they're a fun listen. if you're not in music to have fun, what the fuck is the point? jeez, megan, stop being such a cunt and take the record for what it is - and not what you wish it was.

Anonymous (May 23, 2003)

pop-punk??? U R AN IDIOT!!!

Anonymous (May 23, 2003)

thats the stuipdest thing ive ever seen anyone say... (thats to the guy below me).. so hes being criticized on this site now, because hes intelligent? youre really fucking stupid...

Anonymous (May 23, 2003)

uh oh. Poor wittle guy doesnt wike it when I make fun of shel? Want me to dial whine one one? Want me to call you a whaaambulance? Go find a courtney and kurt yourself.

inagreendase (May 23, 2003)

dude...yes, they were named after shel silverstein. how you can even begin to criticize his work is beyond me. he opened the floodgates for unconventional children's poets and you sit there bitching about it being an assignment. you're a disgrace to mankind.

Anonymous (May 22, 2003)

Did they name themselves after shel silverstein? That bald mother fucker that wrote where the sidewalk ends? I fucking hate that book. My teacher made us read that crap.

Anonymous (May 22, 2003)

shitty review.

Anonymous (May 22, 2003)

The cover art is fucking sweet! what is this bitch talking about!?!?! never heard the album but im gonna check it out so i can see if shes wrong about it.

FortyMinutesWest (May 22, 2003)

Hah, and people tried to tell me that no one used the "see them live first" excuse.

Anonymous (May 21, 2003)

This is their first non independent album and it kicks ass. these guys are one of my favourite bands currently, I suggest you see them live before you judge them.

905 represent

Anonymous (May 21, 2003)

Yes, let's call the reviewer a bitch because she didn't like it. I highly doubt that most, if not all of you that criticized her for being harsh on this band have never done the same thing regarding an album you didn't like.

PS: I think this was one of absolutepunk's recommended bands once, if that says anything.

pope_schlomo (May 21, 2003)

"Now that I think about it, the cover is cool. It has more meaning than you think. The robot is fake, manufactured, and lacking heart. This band is fake, manufactured, and has no heart."

The score is for the forty man. ha it made me chuckle.

Ramo
(robots have bitchin wires)

Anonymous (May 21, 2003)

someone do me a favor and effectively convey why "clarity" is a masterpiece. there are a few good songs, and some of the lyrics carry a lot of solid social commentary (i.e. "your new asthetic"), but besides that there's not much. That snoretacular 16-minute song is just on a loop, they could have made it half an hour if they wanted it to. Most of the songs are extremely mellow and boring and repetitive. someone please explain

inagreendase

Anonymous (May 21, 2003)

The Cover art is god awful. How can anyone like it? Have you any common decency?
I wont even bother with how mediocre thier music is.

FortyMinutesWest (May 20, 2003)

Now that I think about it, the cover is cool. It has more meaning than you think. The robot is fake, manufactured, and lacking heart. This band is fake, manufactured, and has no heart.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

Whoever thinks thursday is original is retarded as well. They are doing exactly what Falling Forward did ten times better almost 9 years ago.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

Anyone else notice that most of the comments are in defense of the cover art rather than the band? It's pretty amusing.

thriceequalsgod (May 20, 2003)

a static lullaby fucking rules... thursday sucks really big balls. but then again thats my opinion... anyone who doesn't like it, just leave your opinion, dont bitch about mine. oh yeah... smashed into pieces is a fuckin awesome song... i hope the cd is good.. im not even listening to this meghan bitch.... you suck.

evildeadalive (May 20, 2003)

Clarity is a masterpiece assfuck.
Thursday fucking suck.
Haven't heard this band, but hopefully they don't suck as much as Taking Back Sunday.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

a static lullaby? why are you people saying they're good? their album is nothing, just a fucking piece of plastic. if you like screams in your sings, just listen to thursday. dont go for bands that try to copy. fuck it, they all suck.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

Wow, meghan is a super bitch. This album really isnt that bad. Sure its all been done before, but cmon you make them sound like count the stars in your review. Now theres a crappy band.

Oh and if you want screamo go listen to some Saetia.

I dont understand why people hate this band so much.

whatev,
-feedmynightmare

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

You wouldn't know good art if it slid into a CD case and stared you in the face. Which it did. Maybe it doesn't appeal to you personally, but it's extremely well-done and graphically it works perfectly. Really, I'm not one to criticize someone else's tastes in art, but to say that sucks is completely fucking ignorant. Until you gain some credentials in art criticism, stick with the music.

And for the record, there's no fucking way this deserves a 1. It's not great, but for god's sake, a 1?

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

I have been anticipating this album and just got it. Listened to it twice on my two hour drive out to Athens, Ohio. I was skeptical about buy after the review bashed them, but i heard the two songs on mp3.com awhile back and kept recalling how catchy i thought they were. Definetly not anything truly original, but hardly bad at all. The screaming is a lot heavier than other bands of the same type around now a days, and they pull off the mixture of pop and hardcore very well. I am impressed and would at least give it an 8 outta 10. The girl who wrote this should get off her high horse of thinking it is now more cool to bash a band than to like them.

GregSka (May 20, 2003)

I've noticed lately a lot of former emo kids are now making fun of emo. I knew this day would come and I'm relishing the moment very much, but GOD DAMN dont people get tired of liking something, hating it, than repeating the process over and over for years? Anyways I never heard the music on this album but the cover art is cool

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

this albums is so good.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

ive only heard one song of this, and while its not particularly great, it definatly deserve the bashing that the reviewer gave it. however it would be much better if they got rid of the crappy screams.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

This album is horrid. I do however like the cover art.

inagreendase (May 20, 2003)

static lullaby is amazing

Icapped2pac (May 20, 2003)

Oh yeah, one more thing. I heard Megan's snatch smells like wet sasquatch. This score is for the potency of the pungent odor. Learn how to write a decent review.

Icapped2pac (May 20, 2003)

"Clarity" IS a masterpiece, motherfucker. As for these guys, I've downloaded a few songs. They're nothing special, but nothing terrible either. I don't give a fuck what genre you call this, but I'd say bands that do this style better would be the Beautiful Mistake and A Static Lullaby. Buy their CDs and leave this on the shelf. Let one of your stupid friends buy it (you know, that tag-along kid who's clueless about music but wants to be cool like you), and then burn it off them.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

great review...this band eats massive amounts of dick

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

Yeah I like the cover art too. The subject matter may be a tad bit cliqued but the execution is fantastic.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

"When Victory Records signs Bad Bands" (part 17).

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

good god.. that was a horrible review. the bashing sucked ass. i like the cover for this by the way. never heard the band, but "originality blah blah shit" is dumb.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

i dunno about screamo, but they sure as hell aren't pop-punk. i think they're cool, but i can see that people might not like them. if you're gonna criticise them though, i'd say maybe they're a bit nu-emo rather than pop-punk...

inagreendase (May 20, 2003)

ok did some motherfucker at victory pull the trigger on pushing this cd back on its actual release date??

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

haven't heard the band, but I think the drawing on the cover is really damn good. It might not be the most original concept, but it's well done, and I really like the coloring used, grabs my attention at least (ooh, shiny...). This scores for the cover art.

pope_schlomo (May 20, 2003)

My friend gave me a promo of this band and spitalfield. They both suck but that's not my point. They descibed Silverstein as "agressive like Posion The Well, catchy like Saves The Day..." and so on. Here's the real description:

"The Starting Line with screams as fake as your girlfriend's orgasms."

Ramo

FortyMinutesWest (May 20, 2003)

Haha, nice review. You'd think having a robot on the cover would help this band, but they had to go and screw that up as well.

preacher (May 20, 2003)

Nice album cover.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

there's nothing wrong with this album. sure it's not original, but if originality is your thing - why the fuck are you here?

inagreendase (May 20, 2003)

i think anyone who thinks clarity is a masterpiece doesn't carry much of a valid opinion for ANYTHING.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

they're not as bad as she makes them out to be.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

they are not fucking screamo... they are generic poppy punk with screaming vocals.. want some screamo bands? listen to the entire level plane catalog, or ebullition.
peace out

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

This Album is nice! What the fuck was megan smoking?

TahoeJeff (May 20, 2003)

ah...fuck it...I'm with megan on this one.

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

i guess i'm dumb enough because i fucking love this band and this album...

Anonymous (May 20, 2003)

megan, you better fucking be some sort of musical jesus to work one band so fucking much...

there is no way silverstein are that bad, if even, bad at all, sure they're lyrics could do with bit more work... but firstly they're not pop punk, they're screamo if anything and secondly the album sounds fucking fine.

if you like emo with some screams... check silverstein out as its good.
"smashed to pieces" has an amazing array of vocals in anyones books...

fuck megan.

inagreendase (May 20, 2003)

this definitely, definitely did not deserve the same score as sr-71 or punchline. i'm also pretty sure its their first album.

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