Can someone please post the saying that is on the DISK...i rememeber there was a long statement written on the disk in a few different colors. i lost the disk and i cant find anything but the album art on the internet. thanks everyone

Still hella fun two years later. Can't wait for March 22.

This is pretty sad that yall are arguing over pettyshit like who signed with who and what happened in the meantime. This nation was based on capitalism and thats what makes the world go round. It doesnt just happen at victory, try being picked up by a major label who tells you that they are going to do everything for you to get you "in the show" and they fuck you by pouring everything they have into another band called creed and dont even book you. They just send you to places for "shows" and when you get there the people running the place have never heard of you or have heard of you just never knew that you were supposed to play...life is unfair, get over it.

All of you are so dumb and pathetic! you think that just because a band are on a major you shouldnt listen to them! If you were in a band and got offered £1 million by Victory, of course you'd take it! you have to be stupid not to! You would want your band to be as big as possible, no one wants there band to stay small!

A record label can't make a band change their music! Why would any band let them! They will play what they want to play and not what idiots like you guys think they should, No band is gona give a shit about what a couple of people on a website think of them!

Spitalfield rocks. Fuck all this "victory sucks for signing this crap" shit.

This band writes great songs. That's what it is all about. Period.

Fuck your music politics.

Boysetsfire is one of the best amjor label bands out there. The detractors of this band are fools. Tomorrow Come Today is an exceptional release. Crawl back into your holes.

-bemused-

You are all fired from life!

Scott & Meg- I just saw Spitalfield play tonight at tower records... they were really tight- so I picked up the new disc... HOLY HELL! So good! Thanks so much for the recommendation! I might not have cheked them out otherwise...

I, as well, am into this. This review did confuse me a little bit... but definitely pick this cd up if you're a fan of well produced driving pop rock! Note: no sarcasm intended.

~Mike

on a higher note... this cd is really good. =)

"Thursday's contract with Victory had a clause in it that stated the band could not leave the label early unless it was to sign to a major label."

I had heard that as well.

"victory is all about the money? what label isnt? this is business, every label wants to sign bands that will make them money.whether u want to sign the next big thing, the current big thing, something original or cookie cutter, u want it to sell. "

this isn't as lengthy a reply but no, your assuming. Labels want to break even. Most of them are in debt. So your wrong. They want to make money so they can survive, not to get the 3rd benz. So your right, but for different reasons.

wyzo

No. Just no. What happened to when Victory had good shit on it? I mean, now, as said, they're putting out crap like Silverstien (shudders) and Count the Stars.
Also, I just can't take a label seriously when their telephone number is 1-800-4HRDCOR.

one more thing. yes the talks of mca/victory were months previous to thurday breaking. but it was still a merger to get thursday. mca knows a good thing when they hear it. a band doesnt already need to blow up to attract big attention from a major. mca knew the 'thursday sound' was gonna be the next big thing. and it is. look at the major label singings that followed, thrice, recover just to name 2 i can think of right now. epitaph has their matchbook romance, drive thru singed senses fail/early november. MCA singed NFG well b4 they blew up. i saw them right b4 their mca debut dropped in sept 00 and their was maybe 200 -300 people to see them, which is decent, but a year later they were playing 3000 capacity clubs. 1.5 years later they were on trl. mca and other majors, do their homework on occasion.

wow. i was the one who started this string of comments. to add a few more cents, first, u say that thursday lost their integrity cuz they; took a million dollar deal and left an indy. what would u do if your band got offered a million dollars. a million fucking dollars. thats alot of money. to have your band get great publicity and promotion and great studio budgets. i have a hard time believing u would 'keep your integrity' and 'go to another indy'. fuck you, people are so full of shit.passing up a major deal makes u an idiot, unless they want u to change your music, which does happen, but not if u shop around. island do not make u change your music. just listen to the new thrice, or the new thursday demo's. face it, most labels are fucked up. indy's and majors.

victory is all about the money? what label isnt? this is business, every label wants to sign bands that will make them money.whether u want to sign the next big thing, the current big thing, something original or cookie cutter, u want it to sell.

also, yes, thu;sday put out a shit album to get our of their deal. so what. your an idiot if u just didnt down load jet black.they encourage people to download their shit at every show

also, boysetsfire are a bunch of assclowns

-cawknocker

This thread has gotten a bit off topic.. which is ok... but bringing it back to Spitalfield for a moment... i bought this cd yesterday... and it grew on me super fast!

"Those Days You Felt Alive" and "Five Days & Counting" are my current favorites... but that might change quickly- as I am listening to this cd a lot.

megan either adores a band/cd or completely despises. where's the middle ground hmm? hmmmmmm?

jeb

What Victory bands are you close with? How can we believe you if you won't give us names?

Oh yeah, with Hatebreed. They said "Release us as a band or we're going to break up." Like Victory had a choice there.

It's funny how everybody can form an opinion about Tony and Victory when they have never even met the guy or done any research about the label. So you've heard "stories." Most stories aren't even true. Ever notice that in life? Thursday is the band that put out a shit album in order to get out of their two album deal. Victory did nothing wrong with that. Victory had the deal with MCA for distrobution purposes only. Nothing more, nothing less.
Everytime I end up on a message board like this I find it full of shit talkers. When you run your own record label and do as well as Victory does in sales, then talk all the shit you want. Until then, get a fucking brain.

Because Madcap has been on Victory from the start..

Im putting in my own 2 cents here... im close with many many victory bands and i must say...Tony is a piece of fucking shit...If your not gay emo/indie rock horseshit, you do not mean anything to them. They have been putting out so much garbage the last year or so that its pretty pathatic... Spitalfield is fucking terrible, so is minus, CTS, snowdogs, silverstein and all those bands...its not about the music with victory, its about the money. Who cares about the bands that always had a consistant selling record like catch 22 that has toured their asses off and is one of victory's biggest sellers. They NEVER push their records, but hey, there is a new homo rock band that could go big becuase thats what everyone seems to like now so lets sign them and forget about bands like River City Rebels and c22 and madcap that are busting their ass with no help. If thursday made a lot of money...good for them. Fuck Tony in his ass..there are so many stories i could tell u guys but im not getting into this on here... I have no respect for a cocksucker like tony who is disloyal and goes again his word and fucks over his bands that are there to make HIM money...

Thursday's contract with Victory had a clause in it that stated the band could not leave the label early unless it was to sign to a major label.

-Scott

i love how everyone knows what exactly happened to thursday and mca/victory, because my friend's brother's dog trainer's cousin told me differently...

not going to go down the "whats wrong wih victory" road...though next time you see Dennis from (I)NC maybe ask him his thoughts on the Victory/Refused situation, or Hatebreed, or Armor for Sleep for that matter - they didn't even SIGN with the label and they have a nice tape recorded message of tony threatening to beat them up. that's class. if the situation were isolated to one band, yes, I agree, lets get over it and move on. But over the past 10 years or so, there seems to have been a strange pattern of discontent. either way, boysetsfire signed to Wind-Up, hired a giant management company, and fired their agent in hopes that new alignments would get them on Lollapaloosa. well, it worked, but I have a hard time swallowing the boysetsfire politic with that much monkey business going on behind the music. These days every band has a skeleton in their closet it seems. It's depressing.

boy sets fire is on an indie? they're on Wind-Up....home to Creed, Evanesence, Drowning Pool, and Seether.

And another thing. If Thursday didn't like the situation with Victory, why didn't they pull a Boy Sets Fire and move to another indie. I'm pretty sure that any other indie label would have taken them (although they wouldn't have gotten the million extra dollars in the process, but they would have kept their integrity). They capitalized on the situation, no one was twisting their arm into going major...

The Victory/MCA talks were well in advance of Thursday really taking off...Just becuase the news broke in April didn't mean it wasn't going on 6 or more months in advance. Thursday assumed that they had no say in what happened to their record in a Victory merger with MCA..not true...they freaked and jumped ship, and talked untrue shit about Victory in the process so they didn't look like the assholes...Somehow it's always easy to make the label look like assholes, and you all buy right into it...

This record might be the "Album of the Summer" in my book. So fun. =) They rock live, too.

this band is bigger and better than any of your bands.

wrong. thursday was about to get sold out to MCA in the victory/MCA merger. gabe from midtown called them up and told geoff and gang to jump the fuck off of victory cuz victory was them out. the only reason mca wanted any part of victory was for thursday (smart guys).victory was gonna make big cash from mca and all thurday was gonna get was a new label (mca), with no say of their own and no cash. however, MCA is supposedly pretty wack to its bands. thursday quickly jumped ship to island. my friend adam ( who runs pittpunk.com mostly) and books many mid size shows in pittsburgh keeps close contact with geoff, or at least did at the time of the thursday/victory thing. so what i have just stated should be pretty accurate. yes thurday made money (one million supposedly, not nearly the 5 mil afi pulled in) jumping to a major, but they were gonna end up on one anyway, one way or another. so fucking what. their too good and too big to be on and indy.

Thursday was the disloyal one, they blew off their contract and commitment to sign with a major and make lots of $$$$$

Victory loyal to the bands that helped them? than explain to me the whole thursday fiasco and how victory was loyal to them...

Certain lyrics from each song is highlighted in the booklet and put together on the actual disc.

(if you didn't catch that)

Don't forget The Reunion Show...lame...

Victory has put out stuff from Count the Stars, Snowdogs, and Silverstein.

I like this disc a lot, but they really re-use the same vocal melody pattern way too much.

What exactly do you consider a "shit year"? Is it the fact that you don't like the bands they've signed? While they've signed new bands, they've been loyal as hell to the bands that helped make them. That needs some explaining.

Victory did it to themselves...after the shit year they've had I'm surprised they expect anyone to trust a new band they sign.

Seems to me that the only people talking about the band being on Victory are the people who like them.

I think it's terrible that any of you would allow whatever record label is releasing a record to determine what makes a good album...That's completely fucking snobbish...completely stupid view point...

"Every review as of late seems to include 'Jimmy eat World' somewhere in it."

More like a poor man's Jimmy Eat World. At least JEW had hooks and the vocals to motivate the listener. This band is in the same category as Stairwell.

I love this record! There is a wonderful level of sincerity in the vocals, and i love the music. listen to the album in headphones as well, there is so much going on you might not notice otherwise!

i wrote a review of this but never sent it in for some reason. it said a lot of the same things that this one said, although the score was 3 and a half as opposed to 4 and a half. that's a little much i have to say. it's an alright album, but not that good.

cause jimmy eat world had clarity, and that album was actually fucking good.

wow! for the first time everyone has agreed that these guys kinda suck. i am suprised that for once no one is fighting.

Every review as of late seems to include 'Jimmy eat World' somewhere in it.

Haha I thought I was only one who thought he was singing about plants. I hope that band never comes back.

I must agree with Ramo, just "eh.." Also, speaking of Victory and Taking Back Sunday, the first five times I listened to "There's No 'I' In Team" I could've sworn that when the whiny guy moans the words "I make lots of plans" that he was actually saying "I make love to plants." This is hilarious, but completely true, did this happen to anyone else? Oh, yeah, the worst part is I didn't think it was that weird, considering the character of the guys in Taking Back Sunday. Whee... are they dead yet?

sorry man...once i told my friend that i couldn't listen much more of them a few days ago he took it back. guess he was offended. i'll give the band another good note, the cover art looks great as far as presentation goes. nice to see temperature on a cover getting a place in the underground scene.

Can I have the promo then Ramo? Cause I really dig these guys, haha.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(I must thank Scott again though)

I agree with Ramo. I just can't get into this, and it has nothing to do with them being on Victory. They are just way too unoriginal and boring. Enough with this recycled shit, even if you have it down pat, it still is the same old shit over and over again. I for one am really bored with many bands right now, and Spitalfield just adds to my boredom.

i wanted to like, but i dont. ill relisten to it in a couple months.

wyzo

I'm with Ramo.

my friend gave me a promo of theirs so I listened to it. sorry no sale. just the same pop rock you can get anywhere else. on a positive note, they're better than silverstein.

good band...catchy songs...cool guys...funny video

like scott said, if it wasn't on victory, people might actually give it a chance

I tried really hard not to like "I love the way she said LA" but I just can't. The video is pretty funny too.

Tracks 1-6 are gold. Pure gold.

It's not as amazing as Megan makes it out to be, but it's solid as all hell, especially for a genre that many bands are sounding stale in.

If this wasn't on Victory, a whole shitload more of you would like it.

-Scott