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RufioRufio: MCMLXXXVMCMLXXXV (2003)Nitro Records Reviewer Rating: 3 User Rating: Contributed by: maverickScott (others by this writer | submit your own) Oh, how clever! The band titled their album "1985," but they wrote it in Roman numerals! Wait, did I say clever? I meant ANNOYING AS FUCK. But yet, once again, this band that I want to hate so much releases their new full-length, and I have to admit that it's not all that bad. Yeah yeah, .  
Oh, how clever! The band titled their album "1985," but they wrote it in Roman numerals!           Please login or register to post comments.What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
i heard rufio a couple years ago, "october nights" fuckin awesome, so when i bought this cd, i was expecting alot, i listend to it a couple times, and i have to say i was very disapointed, allthe tracks sound the same, but there guitar, is just kickin ass, that is one of the only things i loike about this record. now that every one is mentioning it, the do have whiny singer. this cd only had like 5 or 4 good songs which still arent that great. pirate is the best song on the album and thats that. after hearing this album i dont like rufio that much anymore. i hope they can do better.....(sigh) This is actually a very good cd. It soars above most others... Its just that perhaps, I suppose was better so people expected more. This CD is Ok. I saw these guys in concert and they rock live. They'd be really great if they got rid of their squeaking monotonic singer. He is the worst part of the band and drags them down by making all their songs all the same. The song is the same and its good but a bit too long. This album is great for those who crave for a half an hour song. Damn nobody bit on the last comment yet? I was trolling my ass off when I wrote it a while back. I'm a 28 year old rough ass mma fan. I have been in grindcoredeath metal bands, punk bands, alternative bands, radio rock bands, etc. I like to fuck chicks. Lots of them. I hate the current administration. I listen to anything with talent or sincerity or originality. I do not lock myself in the same box that you "true punk" fags do. Hey! I saw these guys live (after 3 years of waiting) just about a month ago. It was above-amazing! I am 18, if that helps you out any, and female. I first heard of them bout 3 years back from my ex in California. I have to say that Perhaps, I Suppose is def their better album (much better vocals), but this one is good as well. I may just be biased to my fav band, but eh. If you want to hear a good song, I suggest One Slowdance or just bout any of their songs off their first album or Follow Me off their latest release. You won't be bummed, I can assure you that! Anyone agree?! IM me at LetStarzFall...laterz! If the rest of this album is like those three songs, then that is a huge disappointment... Rufio's first album was great, it was pretty conventional pop-punk with great lyrics and very catchy instrumentals... this is the same damn thing with worsening vocals, and very little instrumental creativity... I would expect some more matured music with their sophomore effort, and who wants to listen to the same pre-fab shit all over again? and would some of u people who post on these msg boards actually say something other than "this band RULES!" or this "band SUCKS!" or "ANYONE WHO THINKS THIS BAND SUCKS CAN JUST... SUCK MY COCK!" that tells me NOTHING! Say something that actually shows you have intelligence and some sort of knowledge about music... quit wasting my fuckin time RUFIO is a good band but this is not a very good album for the band. I discovered RUFIO around a year and half ago when I purchased the Nitro Compilation Punkzilla which featured their song "still". Amazing song, soon after I bought their album "Perhaps, I suppose". Well I was excited to hear that they were having a new CD come out (1985); however, I was disappointed after hearing it. This is album is deffinatly worth the buy. Although it may be diffrent in some ways then the first album, it's still worth it. It's a very good cd. this album... is the album that kicking ass... the guitars kicks.. :) rufio is rufio and the others bands is the others bands.. Rufio kicks ass, and this album kicks. Though i am fond of rufios first album this album is well worth the buy. Rufio just keeps getting better and better with time, and also less whiny. Go see them live.... it's Rufio at it's best. best album i have ever heard the band is going up and not stoping go see them at warp tour i you get a chance They would be one of my favorite bands if they got a new singer......trying to mix fast punk with Nick Lachey type vocals just doesn't work for me. I cant believe you guys! Why make a reveiw if your're just gonna crap on about how much you hate them and how fucked they are. I love Rufio and they're a mad band. All you guys are a bunch of computer nerds who dont know shit about music. So fuck you all! Esspecially you scott coz your the biggest fag of them all. THis Album is the fuckin bomb!! i recommend it to everyone.. so go get it coz its worth it! =) I love this cd. I love this band, obviously. I got the cd the day it came out and have listened to it everyday since. I however do like the general lyrical content of perhaps I suppose better, so thats why it doesnt get a 10. A pretty good cd but perhaps i suppose was a little better. But i like the cd. hey! i know that you know that this band is a very good band. but my opinio n is that the band should to inclued some more of melancoly songs and maybe i put a 10 in that score. i would just like to say that i love rufio. they remain one of my favorite bands. but the guy who mixed this cd should have turned up the vocals volume! (agreeing with the reviewer in a.p.) scott has such an awesome voice and he deserves more than what crappy vocal volume they gave him. err that's all Omg man i love rufio to death and i swear this new album is CrAzzy.. so much different from there EP and Perhaps i suppose its so awesome! i got the album 2 months before it came out and i was amazed to tell everyone to get it they day it came out cuz i new every tons in it and actually felt the music iu love it rufio u guys r awesome keep up the good work cant wait for the next album hehe this is all i listen to im listening to "why wait"right now...well i luv u guys good job at warped.x0x0_JaCkIe ..from southern cali(norco) hey I think Rufio is an Awesome band! Their beats are just wow!!! U could totally tell that they're into what they do, and they like doing it!!! Although I thought their first album, Perhaps I suppose, was better, this one had lyrics that really stuck with me and u too!!! It's not only about the music, it's about the words they say!! Not like other bands that just scream and "some people" say that thats cool music!!! WHATEVER!! Rufio rulz, that's all I know!! smooches FUCK YOU!(intended for the cheese dicks who said this band sucks) and FUCK YOU!(intended for those who said the cd sucks) I hate to admit it but I enjoy this cd... a lot. I don't have much to say except that this stuff is good music. Not exactly my type of music but there is some talent in here. Clark is a great guitarist and Scott's vocals seemed to have changed a bit, or so I think. I can't remember any old Rufio really. In my opinion, this band really deserves some more respect. Some solid tracks on this. If your into the punk/pop sound you should check this out for sure. Im glad to see scott actually let loose a couple nice things about this band. I know my tastes are different than most of the people who read this site,but I can put up with the bashing that normally goes on. Im not a teenie bopper pop punk fiend so most of it doesnt piss me off like the fifteen year old girls who get so frustrated all the time.I do like this band, but the question i wanted to ask was why Scott said in his review that he really does have obscure tastes? What is so important about having obscure taste? Does it impress people to name albums and bands that many people aren't familiar with? It seems to me making an effort to like "obscure" music is just another way to come across as cool or better than anybody. Im not saying this is what scott does though, He might legitimately appreciate sounds that havent caught on for many people. I do think however that having real tastes and liking real aspects of music is more important that making sure all the bands you like are obscure. I think too much of the punk scene has turned into a micro version of pop culture and that seems contrary to what alot of the musicians are all about. It would be a shame if all us fans really split apart a great music scene. i think i would really like these guys if they just had a different singer. why the hell do we make fun of other sites? what is the point of making enemies? god damn if other people like that site, let them. you dont see rappers coming in here nad saying that this punk shit sucks, and that it all sounds the same. fuck everyone who says Rufio sucks..!!! I'm sure Scott just posted a bunch of MP3s from the band's back catalog to fuck with you. Hey jerkoff, are you gonna tell us anything about how the music on this cd sounds? "Yep - after all, what's more punk than naming your band after a character in an early 90s live-action disney sequel?" so....back to Rufio. i really like this record. =) Also... for anyone that says PN.org has been around longer than AP.... YOU ARE WRONG. AbsolutePunk has been around since late 1996 in one form or another (absolutepunk.dhs.org ... absolutepunk.8m.com...etc.) According to this site's history page.. "We started in August of 1998." "Sugery" by the world class wrecking crew was the shit. also check out ice cube's "death cerificate". So I checked out the much-talked about AbsolutePunk forums, and boy do they ever suck. What a dull place, just a bunch of people who have identical taste in music and faux dramatic names like "SaveMyHeart" discussing hot issues like "is Benji from Good Charlotte gay? I hope not!" i think the Links page on Taking back sunday's website says it all. it has punknews.org linked and says beside it not to even mess around with the other news websites. i mean, even taking back sunday likes this site best. those kids over there need to take a hint. but really i think ap.net does well with their site. i just don't enjoy the bands they promote the most and a lot of people over there are ignorant and hypocritical. roze rocks though. I could be wrong, but I think that pic of Dre is from when he was part of the "Wolrd Class Wrecking Crew". That outfit was the hotness. That picture of Tate is hilarious. Reminds me of the picture Eazy E put in that one cd. I forgot what the name of it was, but it had that queer ass picture of Dr Dre back when he was in some dance group(pre NWA). I think what I'm trying to say is...Tate is a fag and his site sucks ass. How are the guitar parts in Rufio songs amazing... I still fail to grasp how "amazing" it is to have a Lead guitar. You want amazing guitar go listen to SRV, Ritchie Blackmore, or even though he's an arrogant prick, Yngwie Malmsteem. Rufio guitars are just power chords with some cheesy lead thrown over top and the lead isn't all that good, it's just a couple of high end notes with maybe even a pull off or hammer on. What's amazing about that? There are only a few good guitars in punk today and Rufio does not have it. Listen to Tim and Lars, or Chris from The Living End. They know how to wail. Well any news I ever got from this website (which might have been 2 times) was credited to this site on my site, unlike news posts you continually steal from us. Whether the band is good or bad, this review didn't give me any insight on the quality of the CD, other than that some guy thinks the title is "annoying as fuck". Y O U S U C K Well any news I ever got from this website (which might have been 2 times) was credited to this site on my site, unlike news posts you continually steal from us. So hey, your sister sounds pretty cool. Any chance I could get her number? wow. this was kinda weird. A good CD, and the talk just boils down to site admins bashing each other... I've always been suprised by the success of this band. Their first album, which I dont remember there being any unusually big push behind, was contstantly Interpunk's biggest seller for at least a year (if I remember correctly). 1. I don't know why people are saying that a different Scott wrote both this and the Brand New review. I'm Scott, I wrote them both. Actually, the people on your site started the hits debate by saying that no one ever heard of punknews. Yo... So I'd never really spent much time on AP.net before, and I decided to check it out. Well now I know why I never really liked that site before. Goddamn those boys have got some shitty assed taste in music. Shit, and I thought Scott was bad.... Scott, don't even bother argueing with that dumbfuck Jeremy about web traffic. Who's sold more albums, Good Charlotte or Dillinger 4? That's right, their the GC to your D4. They get more visits because they cater to the masses of screaming little girls. Their sites not even readable, shit... Whatever, I don't care about ap.net and what they do, or what pn.org does to them. Come on scott dont be a pussy... Back your shit up...... The dudes name is tate..... Tate!... What the fuck is that shit.... -cv Duuuude!...... They're talking shit about scott on absolutepunk. Net..... Fuck man are you gonna take that?..... They have a link to your web journal... Listen dude, its the internet..... You dont put your worst fucking picture up for everyone to see....... But man i guess you are a little porkish...... Anywayz about midway through the news they posted the links... Man scott i'd kick thier little emo asses... But thats just me. -cobra-verde "Anyone who has trashed Tate or his bands on his forum have gotten their posting privilges on his page's forum revoked. Wow, how "punk rock" is limiting freedom of speech? But what do you expcect he wears abercrombie...." "Like Peter Pan's sidekick from "Hook"????" As much as I like this site compared to absolutepunk.net,I sort of consider myself an impartial observer.So here's my say...wait,before I say my say,don't you people realize 2 things ? so punk you rag on drive thru. And why has no one commented on the band's name? you know you're a dork when you argue about which person who runs a website is cooler than the other This score is for the music, which isn't really all that bad, the singer on the other hand...no bueno. Anyone who has trashed Tate or his bands on his forum have gotten their posting privilges on his page's forum revoked. Wow, how "punk rock" is limiting freedom of speech? But what do you expcect he wears abercrombie.... they are good at what they do. [although the singer's voice is by far the group's weakest point - after 12 tracks of nasally whining, I want to punch the fucker out ] Since nobody seems to want to review the actual cds, and choose to review the bands themselves, i will. It's not a bad cd, but it's much more polished then their first and loses some of the...i guess i'll call it "energy" for lack of a better term. Regardless, it's decent but forgettable. Sorry, i have have a life problem to whine about... oh by the way, nile blows. if you like pointless noise go stick your head in a vacuum "I don't understand why everyone bashes this band so much, sayin that they are so generic. bands like good charlotte and simple plan are generic. rufio is not. they are talented at what they do and deserve alot of credit. you try picking up a guitar and play the stuff they play. i haven't heard any pop punk band that can play as fast and well as these guys. and who cares if scott's voice kinda sounds weird. rufio is still oine of my fav bands. go ahead and make fun of me cause i'm a 21 year old emo dude. i listen to bands like Nile, darkest hour, and Converge too so shut the fuck up!" well scott, my friend loves cutting up his coke with Janet's "The Velvet Rope." alright, I'll admit they're really good... but man do they suck live. I've seen them twice. Once at a Poison The Well/RiseAgainst/Strung Out show and then at BrandNew/Taking Back Sunday but geez why can't their shows be as good as their records? I mean really now. Meh *shrugs* oh well. guess it happens sometimes. but yes they are good, but i'll only see 'em if they're playing with someone better, or if i'm not paying for the ticket. I don't understand why everyone bashes this band so much, sayin that they are so generic. bands like good charlotte and simple plan are generic. rufio is not. they are talented at what they do and deserve alot of credit. you try picking up a guitar and play the stuff they play. i haven't heard any pop punk band that can play as fast and well as these guys. and who cares if scott's voice kinda sounds weird. rufio is still oine of my fav bands. go ahead and make fun of me cause i'm a 21 year old emo dude. i listen to bands like Nile, darkest hour, and Converge too so shut the fuck up! Who cares how hard he works if the end product is crap? And aren't you criticizing people you don't know? Ok you really all do amaze me... I mean really, so what that you don't like the music we cover? Who fucking gives a shit. Jason Tate works a hundred times harder on AbsolutePunk than Scott works on PunkNews... he is in absolutely no position to critisize. I too must agree with you. Rufio is amazing instrmentally. But It sounds like the singer got kicked in the nutts before he recorded and numorus times during the songs. Sadly I had the displeasure of sitting thruogh one of their sets while waiting for another band and they are probally one of the most boring bands to watch live. Honestly I believe they would be better if the dumpped the singer and got new lyrics. But life can't be that great.. now can it? I must say i agree with you about the singer's voice (and pretty much everything else you said)... it would be one thing if he was yah know like 15 then there would be time for his voice to mature and sound...better, however i think it is too late. If you listen to Rise Against's "Like the Angle" you will notice it has rufio type music and lyrics but the singer makes the sound more powerful and deep and less bubble gum. But if thats what they are going for then fine and more power to them. I have no idea what any of you are talking about. I'm fighting no war. I'm just doing my job, cashing my paycheck every Friday, and blowing all of it on hookers, cocaine, and Yellowcard CDs. I didn't phone it and check, if it was though it's still a prick thing to do "Kids: posting Mr. Tate's phone number is really, really petty. Let Scott fight his own battles...¨ Man youre too hardcore... like pop punk is way not cool is it? remember when rufio used to play at the spectrum? "Two steps for you scenesters to follow: first of all, this band sucks. Two steps for you scenesters to follow: what exactly is the history of the ap.net hate? it seems kinda new to me. their site was fucking annoying just casually glancing at it. your a fuckin moron.. and your site is shitty... stop whining because you are a fuckin fat loser who doesnt get any ass... i saw these gu;ys live once but was drunk and jsut wanted strung out to play. i think it was the strung out show. all i remember is it sounds like thrice/strungout/guy from starting line. good musically but i think the singer is pretty weak. no balls to his voice. i like pop punk voices, but they need some passion. Kids: posting Mr. Tate's phone number is really, really petty. Let Scott fight his own battles... hahah So where are the nudie pics of your sister Scotty boy? Scott keeps the hits comin'. Fuck the fucking fuckers. I stand by my stance of Rufio is perhaps one of the worst bands I have ever heard. They are also shit live. What was Dexter thinking signing them to Nitro, but then again what was he thinking signing half of the bands that he did? sounds to me like a bunch of people who simply think they are better than everyone else. whats the point of two faggot web sites fighting, here, you both are worthless who do nothing but COMPLAIN. What makes one better than the other. SImple scott thinks hes the punk rock elite of America. That was the worst review ever. you didnt even talk about the songs or anything. all you did was ramble on and on about how only young girls like this band. im 21 and i love this band. they have a real metal influence in their music. if you are going to post reviews, dont post em by people that already hate the band cause that is biased. post one from a fan then if the they dont like the cd, then you can post the bashing "reviews" It is my opinion that anyone that shares the EXACT same musical tastes as a 13 year old girl has no right t0 judge someone elses musical taste. But you do like some crap Scott. at least ap.net can't get that kind of news post to be inaccurate, untrue, or without any kind of accuracy. it's just fucking stupid. I like how Scott made a news headline on AP for only god knows why. The title of the article is something like "I Never Laughed So Hard." I'm trying to figure out why he was giggling, because all the article has is a link to Scott's homepage and his record collection. this band is crap and the cover is crap. nice paragraph link there scott. if only they drop the singer and become an instrumental band.... Over It is ok, though I am really sick of the cock-sucking of Lobster records. OVER IT has plenty of talent, please don't lump them into the "crapfest." Any one whose caught them live or has actually listened to their discs knows better than to say otherwise... i can't stand these guys. my old roomie used to be big into these guys. it's easy to tell him whether or not he's going to like a band. is it pop-punk? yes, ok justin will like it. TahoeJeff: I believe Fanscape contacted a number of sites about doing a Warped site, I wouldnt be suprised if there are others. Don't mix up our administrative decisions with Scott's war. I like this band.....better than most of the generic AP.net/Drive Thru crap-fest . this band has something bands like starting line, over it, and any other band jason tate creams his pants over, because Rufio has something they don't, TALENT. This is a good CD,only like 2 bad songs, everything else is solid. ok scott..I just want to know something..who had the exclusive warped tour page thing first. pn.org or ap.net? i didnt want to like this either, but this band seriously has a good amount of talent. "white lights", "science fiction", and "control" are all really good songs. Hey Scott, is your sister hot? the cover art is good. Yeah but that's the archaic definition, you swine! Oh wait, for a second there I thought I cared enough to gripe about word usage. Carry on. de·fame ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-fm) I love how all the reviews on this site are more about the people who write them and their insecurities for liking a certain band! 'fun pop punk?' another band that i won't like... 1) it's "defamation" - with only one "m." 2) Black's Law Dictionary: "the act of harming the reputation of another by making a false statement to a third person. If the alleged defamation involves a matter of public concern, the plaintiff is constitutionally required to prove both the statement's falsity and the defendant's fault." Does he even ban ips from dial-up connections? Cause if ya want to really piss him off, just sign off and sign on. just dont forget scott, any publicity is good publicity, if you don't want people visiting the site, i'd avoid at least A LITTLE BIT of the linkage. Oh man, thats awesome. Good one Scott. Rather than resort to the petty name-calling like a certain little fanboy webzine.....you make another witty link. Golden. Wow. Scott's an angry angry boy lately. I suppose in some sort of ass-covering statement I'll say "The views of Scott or any reviewer do not reflect the editorial policy of this website" or something along those lines.... besides the fact that i could have been using "defammation" in a different context. i could have also said scott just disagrees with ap.net's stance on a lot of things, but i chose a different word for that. some words have different meanings, boys and girls! if you asked hypocritical drive-thru or ap.net they might classify it as defammation. jason bans every kid's ip who points out something ironic about him and...well, we know about DTR... people shouldn't use the word "defamation" if they really have no clue what the legal requirements are for such. assclown. Scott's consistent defamation? What about Forty's of Shattered Realm, now that's funny stuff you'll agree. quite the bitter beaver, aren't we scotty? nah other than dishing out the consistent defammation (which i still had a good laugh at) it was a pretty decent review and i have to agree with most parts. perhaps i suppose was better, this album let me down a bit. although science fiction and set it off are kick-ass songs. everything is just a couple steps above mediocre i wanna hate this band too but i really can't hate all the stuff they put out I heard worse, pretty catchy stuff, but we already have Thrice and this souns like an imitation. LMAO at the Drivethru comment why all the hate of absolutepunk.net?? shit! That last comment wasn't supposed to be 10 stars. Dammit. I blame absolutepunk.net. Scott, resist the urges of crap pop. It's all gonna be ok! Put in the re-release of I am the Movie (as I'm sure you already have it) and MCS's pop goodness will wash away all the Rufio right out of yer pretty little head. 'still' and 'above me' were alright off the last album, but their 3 song blew and so does this one. rufio sucks Worst band ever* Good review Scott. I think I hate Rufio about as much as you to seem to want to. |
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