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Rufio

Rufio: MCMLXXXVMCMLXXXV (2003)
Nitro Records

Reviewer Rating: 3
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Contributed by: maverickScott
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Oh, how clever! The band titled their album "1985," but they wrote it in Roman numerals! Wait, did I say clever? I meant ANNOYING AS FUCK. But yet, once again, this band that I want to hate so much releases their new full-length, and I have to admit that it's not all that bad. Yeah yeah, .
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Oh, how clever! The band titled their album "1985," but they wrote it in Roman numerals!

Wait, did I say clever? I meant ANNOYING AS FUCK.

But yet, once again, this band that I want to hate so much releases their new full-length, and I have to admit that it's not all that bad.

Yeah yeah, I know - what is this site, some flavor-of-the-week webpage run by idiots that falls in love with three dozen bands that all sound exactly the same and exist solely to milk teenage girls of their lunch money?

I swear we're not. And I swear my tastes are still really obscure and I swear I'll keep giving bands you've never heard of super-high scores and I swear I'll continue to pan almost anything these cockasses put out.

But there's something endearing about Rufio. So many of the punker-than-thous hate their guts, and yet they persevere. And I'll be damned if I don't catch myself singing along with many of the tracks on this album. This is just fun pop-punk for a mostly younger crowd [meaning: anyone who needs someone else to buy them cigarettes and beer], but I'm getting some kind of strange enjoyment out of it.

What's funny is, my younger sister has completely fallen in love with this CD. For a reference point, my younger sister is 18, and her favorite bands are Something Corporate, Dashboard Confessional, and Jimmy Eat World [Bleed American-era, obviously]. She can't stop singing along to these songs as I play the CD [for review purposes only, I swear]. So if you are like my younger sister, you'll really dig the shit out of this album.

If you're like me, you'll begrudgingly admit that this band has a shitload of talent [although the singer's voice is by far the group's weakest point - after 12 tracks of nasally whining, I want to punch the fucker out {as I sing along to these ridiculously basic lyrics that have been burned into my brain}].

Gah, I dunno, it's late and I'm tired as shit. If you want to hear what the band sounds like [as I don't really think I described them at all], just download the fucking MP3s. I'm going to bed.

And I'll probably have these songs as the background in my dreams tonight, too - goddammit.

MP3s
Science Fiction
White Lights
Why Wait?

 

 
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Anonymous (July 11, 2005)

thats becuz october nights is yellowcard dumass!

nuthinbutdisastor (January 11, 2005)

i heard rufio a couple years ago, "october nights" fuckin awesome, so when i bought this cd, i was expecting alot, i listend to it a couple times, and i have to say i was very disapointed, allthe tracks sound the same, but there guitar, is just kickin ass, that is one of the only things i loike about this record.

Anonymous (December 30, 2004)

now that every one is mentioning it, the do have whiny singer. this cd only had like 5 or 4 good songs which still arent that great. pirate is the best song on the album and thats that. after hearing this album i dont like rufio that much anymore. i hope they can do better.....(sigh)

Anonymous (July 21, 2004)

This is actually a very good cd. It soars above most others... Its just that perhaps, I suppose was better so people expected more.

Oh and the singer from Rufio isnt half as bad as the singer of new found.

Anonymous (May 3, 2004)

This CD is Ok. I saw these guys in concert and they rock live. They'd be really great if they got rid of their squeaking monotonic singer. He is the worst part of the band and drags them down by making all their songs all the same. The song is the same and its good but a bit too long. This album is great for those who crave for a half an hour song.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

Damn nobody bit on the last comment yet? I was trolling my ass off when I wrote it a while back.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

I'm a 28 year old rough ass mma fan. I have been in grindcoredeath metal bands, punk bands, alternative bands, radio rock bands, etc. I like to fuck chicks. Lots of them. I hate the current administration. I listen to anything with talent or sincerity or originality. I do not lock myself in the same box that you "true punk" fags do.

I love Rufio. I love Taking Back Sunday. I love Gorefest. I love Hank Williams. I love Dashboard. I love Goatwhore. I love the new Blink record. Kiss my ass. Fuck you. Suck my dick you fuckin' nerds. "If it's not obscure I hate it." Bunch of fuckin' geeks. Get a grip.

Anonymous (November 9, 2003)

Hey! I saw these guys live (after 3 years of waiting) just about a month ago. It was above-amazing! I am 18, if that helps you out any, and female. I first heard of them bout 3 years back from my ex in California. I have to say that Perhaps, I Suppose is def their better album (much better vocals), but this one is good as well. I may just be biased to my fav band, but eh. If you want to hear a good song, I suggest One Slowdance or just bout any of their songs off their first album or Follow Me off their latest release. You won't be bummed, I can assure you that! Anyone agree?! IM me at LetStarzFall...laterz!

Anonymous (August 3, 2003)

If the rest of this album is like those three songs, then that is a huge disappointment... Rufio's first album was great, it was pretty conventional pop-punk with great lyrics and very catchy instrumentals... this is the same damn thing with worsening vocals, and very little instrumental creativity... I would expect some more matured music with their sophomore effort, and who wants to listen to the same pre-fab shit all over again? and would some of u people who post on these msg boards actually say something other than "this band RULES!" or this "band SUCKS!" or "ANYONE WHO THINKS THIS BAND SUCKS CAN JUST... SUCK MY COCK!" that tells me NOTHING! Say something that actually shows you have intelligence and some sort of knowledge about music... quit wasting my fuckin time

Anonymous (August 3, 2003)

RUFIO is a good band but this is not a very good album for the band. I discovered RUFIO around a year and half ago when I purchased the Nitro Compilation Punkzilla which featured their song "still". Amazing song, soon after I bought their album "Perhaps, I suppose". Well I was excited to hear that they were having a new CD come out (1985); however, I was disappointed after hearing it.

First off, the instrumentals aren't as good on this record as the previous. Listen to the main riff to "Above Me" on their last record and you'll be amazed. On this new album there is nothing unique or special about it. The lyrics aren't as good as the last. The CD isn't horrible but if you just heard about RUFIO DO NOT BUY THIS ALBUM! Buy their first release instead.

Anonymous (July 18, 2003)

i think "1985" is awesome...who ever dissagrees is CRAZY!!!

Anonymous (July 18, 2003)

This is album is deffinatly worth the buy. Although it may be diffrent in some ways then the first album, it's still worth it. It's a very good cd.

Mikibinho (July 18, 2003)

this album... is the album that kicking ass... the guitars kicks.. :) rufio is rufio and the others bands is the others bands..

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

Rufio kicks ass, and this album kicks. Though i am fond of rufios first album this album is well worth the buy.

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

Rufio just keeps getting better and better with time, and also less whiny. Go see them live.... it's Rufio at it's best.

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

great cd definite buy

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

not as good as their first album.. but still pretty damn good..

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

best album i have ever heard the band is going up and not stoping go see them at warp tour i you get a chance

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

They would be one of my favorite bands if they got a new singer......trying to mix fast punk with Nick Lachey type vocals just doesn't work for me.

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

I cant believe you guys! Why make a reveiw if your're just gonna crap on about how much you hate them and how fucked they are. I love Rufio and they're a mad band. All you guys are a bunch of computer nerds who dont know shit about music. So fuck you all! Esspecially you scott coz your the biggest fag of them all.

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

THis Album is the fuckin bomb!! i recommend it to everyone.. so go get it coz its worth it! =)

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

this just extremely rocks, listen and by it NOW!!!

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

I love this cd. I love this band, obviously. I got the cd the day it came out and have listened to it everyday since. I however do like the general lyrical content of perhaps I suppose better, so thats why it doesnt get a 10.

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

A pretty good cd but perhaps i suppose was a little better. But i like the cd.

Anonymous (July 17, 2003)

hey! i know that you know that this band is a very good band. but my opinio n is that the band should to inclued some more of melancoly songs and maybe i put a 10 in that score.

Anonymous (July 16, 2003)

i would just like to say that i love rufio. they remain one of my favorite bands. but the guy who mixed this cd should have turned up the vocals volume! (agreeing with the reviewer in a.p.) scott has such an awesome voice and he deserves more than what crappy vocal volume they gave him. err that's all

Anonymous (July 16, 2003)

Omg man i love rufio to death and i swear this new album is CrAzzy.. so much different from there EP and Perhaps i suppose its so awesome! i got the album 2 months before it came out and i was amazed to tell everyone to get it they day it came out cuz i new every tons in it and actually felt the music iu love it rufio u guys r awesome keep up the good work cant wait for the next album hehe this is all i listen to im listening to "why wait"right now...well i luv u guys good job at warped.x0x0_JaCkIe ..from southern cali(norco)

Anonymous (July 16, 2003)

hey I think Rufio is an Awesome band! Their beats are just wow!!! U could totally tell that they're into what they do, and they like doing it!!! Although I thought their first album, Perhaps I suppose, was better, this one had lyrics that really stuck with me and u too!!! It's not only about the music, it's about the words they say!! Not like other bands that just scream and "some people" say that thats cool music!!! WHATEVER!! Rufio rulz, that's all I know!! smooches

Anonymous (July 16, 2003)

FUCK YOU!(intended for the cheese dicks who said this band sucks) and FUCK YOU!(intended for those who said the cd sucks)

Analog_Boy (July 2, 2003)

I hate to admit it but I enjoy this cd... a lot. I don't have much to say except that this stuff is good music. Not exactly my type of music but there is some talent in here. Clark is a great guitarist and Scott's vocals seemed to have changed a bit, or so I think. I can't remember any old Rufio really. In my opinion, this band really deserves some more respect. Some solid tracks on this. If your into the punk/pop sound you should check this out for sure.

rufiorock (June 26, 2003)

Im glad to see scott actually let loose a couple nice things about this band. I know my tastes are different than most of the people who read this site,but I can put up with the bashing that normally goes on. Im not a teenie bopper pop punk fiend so most of it doesnt piss me off like the fifteen year old girls who get so frustrated all the time.I do like this band, but the question i wanted to ask was why Scott said in his review that he really does have obscure tastes? What is so important about having obscure taste? Does it impress people to name albums and bands that many people aren't familiar with? It seems to me making an effort to like "obscure" music is just another way to come across as cool or better than anybody. Im not saying this is what scott does though, He might legitimately appreciate sounds that havent caught on for many people. I do think however that having real tastes and liking real aspects of music is more important that making sure all the bands you like are obscure. I think too much of the punk scene has turned into a micro version of pop culture and that seems contrary to what alot of the musicians are all about. It would be a shame if all us fans really split apart a great music scene.

mcpike (June 25, 2003)

i think i would really like these guys if they just had a different singer.

Anonymous (June 25, 2003)

why the hell do we make fun of other sites? what is the point of making enemies? god damn if other people like that site, let them. you dont see rappers coming in here nad saying that this punk shit sucks, and that it all sounds the same.

it's gay to think that we;re sitting here making fun of people for liking the same kinda music (oh pop punk sucks i forgot!) god damn hypocrites.

Anonymous (June 24, 2003)

fuck everyone who says Rufio sucks..!!!
this cd is AWESOME and Scott's voice is 2...this is a HORRIBLE review..u didn't give information on the music ..god damn...and I just got the new cd "1985" and it's AWESOME! just like perhaps I suppose... RUFiO is the BEST!

Anonymous (June 24, 2003)

Horrible band, horrible review.

FortyMinutesWest (June 23, 2003)

I'm sure Scott just posted a bunch of MP3s from the band's back catalog to fuck with you.

Anonymous (June 23, 2003)

Hey jerkoff, are you gonna tell us anything about how the music on this cd sounds?
Fine you don't like em, but I on the other hand haven't heard a thing by them. Sure, I can download those tracks you posted. Are they from the new album though?
You really didn't do anything but complain about this band. Why bother reviewing if you are gonna provide any relevant information?
I swear, your reviews keep getting shittier and shitter. I think you should quit with the reviews. Or at least try to write something informative next time.

Anonymous (June 23, 2003)

"Yep - after all, what's more punk than naming your band after a character in an early 90s live-action disney sequel?"

This had better be sarcasm...
--Cos

Anonymous (June 23, 2003)

so....back to Rufio. i really like this record. =)
"white lights"
mmmmmmmm......

sloppyblake (June 23, 2003)

Also... for anyone that says PN.org has been around longer than AP.... YOU ARE WRONG. AbsolutePunk has been around since late 1996 in one form or another (absolutepunk.dhs.org ... absolutepunk.8m.com...etc.) According to this site's history page.. "We started in August of 1998."

haha i have a lot to say about this one. AP was a Blink 182 site until 2001 buddy. I remember right when Take Off Your Pants and Jacket was coming out was the final version of the Blink-182 site and when you saw that online zines were getting popular, you made one. I have hated Jason Tate for a long time. I am pretty good friends with Rick Devoe and the Blink 182 crew and I remember many times where all your news was basically stolen from other sites or untrue. "Blink's manager said this song is titled WHY'. ahahaha.
I just read the Saosin news article you made and wanted to throw up. How is that news?

ramo (June 23, 2003)

"Sugery" by the world class wrecking crew was the shit. also check out ice cube's "death cerificate".

FortyMinutesWest (June 23, 2003)

So I checked out the much-talked about AbsolutePunk forums, and boy do they ever suck. What a dull place, just a bunch of people who have identical taste in music and faux dramatic names like "SaveMyHeart" discussing hot issues like "is Benji from Good Charlotte gay? I hope not!"

greyicewater (June 23, 2003)

i think the Links page on Taking back sunday's website says it all. it has punknews.org linked and says beside it not to even mess around with the other news websites. i mean, even taking back sunday likes this site best. those kids over there need to take a hint. but really i think ap.net does well with their site. i just don't enjoy the bands they promote the most and a lot of people over there are ignorant and hypocritical. roze rocks though.

Anonymous (June 23, 2003)

I could be wrong, but I think that pic of Dre is from when he was part of the "Wolrd Class Wrecking Crew". That outfit was the hotness.

-sickboi

Anonymous (June 23, 2003)

That picture of Tate is hilarious. Reminds me of the picture Eazy E put in that one cd. I forgot what the name of it was, but it had that queer ass picture of Dr Dre back when he was in some dance group(pre NWA). I think what I'm trying to say is...Tate is a fag and his site sucks ass.

Anonymous (June 23, 2003)

AP should change their name to Obsolete Punk.

StratManX (June 23, 2003)

How are the guitar parts in Rufio songs amazing... I still fail to grasp how "amazing" it is to have a Lead guitar. You want amazing guitar go listen to SRV, Ritchie Blackmore, or even though he's an arrogant prick, Yngwie Malmsteem. Rufio guitars are just power chords with some cheesy lead thrown over top and the lead isn't all that good, it's just a couple of high end notes with maybe even a pull off or hammer on. What's amazing about that? There are only a few good guitars in punk today and Rufio does not have it. Listen to Tim and Lars, or Chris from The Living End. They know how to wail.

Anonymous (June 23, 2003)

haha losers. LOSERSSS

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

Well any news I ever got from this website (which might have been 2 times) was credited to this site on my site, unlike news posts you continually steal from us.

like the time that punknews stole the story about the new bowling for soup video that was being made or how mest charted in their first week? oh wait...

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

Whether the band is good or bad, this review didn't give me any insight on the quality of the CD, other than that some guy thinks the title is "annoying as fuck". Y O U S U C K

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

youve lost your roots man, this used to be about the music

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

Well any news I ever got from this website (which might have been 2 times) was credited to this site on my site, unlike news posts you continually steal from us.

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

So hey, your sister sounds pretty cool. Any chance I could get her number?

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

wow. this was kinda weird. A good CD, and the talk just boils down to site admins bashing each other...

Minor Threat

adam (June 22, 2003)

I've always been suprised by the success of this band. Their first album, which I dont remember there being any unusually big push behind, was contstantly Interpunk's biggest seller for at least a year (if I remember correctly).

Not that I've heard a lot of their stuff, but it strikes me odd that this band has gotten so popular while a thousand similar sounding groups go nowhere.

adam

maverick (June 22, 2003)

1. I don't know why people are saying that a different Scott wrote both this and the Brand New review. I'm Scott, I wrote them both.

2. Jeremy, get off of our forums. You guys started this by stealing our news a billion times over. Now end it, and go away.

-Scott

FortyMinutesWest (June 22, 2003)

Actually, the people on your site started the hits debate by saying that no one ever heard of punknews.

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

Oh yeah, that post was by me...

Jeremy.

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

Yo...

I didn't start talking about hits... Scott did. Go to the thread you can see for yourself.

Also, I work on AP for the music I love. Contrary to popular belief we actually do not make money and we put hours of work weekly and usually daily into the website. I've always looked visited punknews.org because It's a damn good site, but It's really too bad that they had to start this fight.

Also... for anyone that says PN.org has been around longer than AP.... YOU ARE WRONG. AbsolutePunk has been around since late 1996 in one form or another (absolutepunk.dhs.org ... absolutepunk.8m.com...etc.) According to this site's history page.. "We started in August of 1998."

evildeadalive (June 22, 2003)

So I'd never really spent much time on AP.net before, and I decided to check it out. Well now I know why I never really liked that site before. Goddamn those boys have got some shitty assed taste in music. Shit, and I thought Scott was bad.... Scott, don't even bother argueing with that dumbfuck Jeremy about web traffic. Who's sold more albums, Good Charlotte or Dillinger 4? That's right, their the GC to your D4. They get more visits because they cater to the masses of screaming little girls. Their sites not even readable, shit...

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

Whatever, I don't care about ap.net and what they do, or what pn.org does to them.

This band sucks. Thats all there is to it. And I actually like pop-punk/emo bands. So ok, the guitar player can write some cool lines, the bass player can pick like a mofo. Whatever. Their singer has the most fucking annoying voice ever. If you took every singer from every whiney pop-punk and/or emo band and took all their voices and put them together, you still couldn't get as high, whiney, and annoying as the guy in rufio. He's right up there with the guy from Something Corporate.

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

Come on scott dont be a pussy... Back your shit up...... The dudes name is tate..... Tate!... What the fuck is that shit.... -cv

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

Duuuude!...... They're talking shit about scott on absolutepunk. Net..... Fuck man are you gonna take that?..... They have a link to your web journal... Listen dude, its the internet..... You dont put your worst fucking picture up for everyone to see....... But man i guess you are a little porkish...... Anywayz about midway through the news they posted the links... Man scott i'd kick thier little emo asses... But thats just me. -cobra-verde

Daegan (June 22, 2003)

"Anyone who has trashed Tate or his bands on his forum have gotten their posting privilges on his page's forum revoked. Wow, how "punk rock" is limiting freedom of speech? But what do you expcect he wears abercrombie...."

When people start shit on a message board, it just builds and builds and becomes insane. This is why comments like that on almost any populated (i.e. 50 new threads a day) message board are moderated to avoid flame wars like those kinds of threads start.

Furthermore, people that dress in everything from what they find laying in the street to Banana Republic do this.

Finally, you have no right to freedom of speech on a privately owned website. When you say yes to that user agreement that you have to click through, you're basically saying that you understand that you DON'T have any right to freedom of speech there. I have personally had the internet service of one particularly annoying forum user from Oklahoma City shut off, a few years back on a forum I used to moderate. Because he was doing shit like that. Consider what this guy at absolutepunk does to you morons a slap on the wrist.

Anonymous (June 22, 2003)

"Like Peter Pan's sidekick from "Hook"????"

Yep - after all, what's more punk than naming your band after a character in an early 90s live-action disney sequel? FORTY YEARS PAST THE ORIGINAL!! crazy man...Dante Basco is the shit, he was almost as good in this one as he was in a goofy movie.

i'm inspired. look for Cruella de Vil to drop their self-titled ep in your town now! the puppies will be mine!

inagreendase

THAT_GUY (June 22, 2003)

As much as I like this site compared to absolutepunk.net,I sort of consider myself an impartial observer.So here's my say...wait,before I say my say,don't you people realize 2 things ?
1.Scott is NOT the owner of this site,Aubin is
2.for anyone bashing Scott,the 2 Scott's,the one who wrote this review,and the one who wrote the Brand New one are 2 totally different people...
Ok,now for my say,I think that by far,punknews.org is more proffesional,more diverse,and has a more extinsive review section.Plus,it is a whole lot less biased.But,absolutepunk does post tour dates quicker in many cases,has more news(even if some of it is pointless,ok,ALOT),and has a very good forum,for fans and others to speak out about many different things.Plus,I talk shit about Tate quite a bit,and he has never banned me,he has asked me to leave or shut up,but never banned me.I think that Tate's quite biased,but then again,so is everyone,I know if I had a website,I'd tell you what I thought,and not give a damn what you thought.If I said:
"Modest Mouse is a better band than Dashboard Confessional"
and then you said:
"you're a dumbass,DC is better"
I'd kick your ass off my site,talk shit about you,delete the comment,and then make derrogatory comments towards your mother,father,and both of their sexual orientations,end of story.So I think he isn't quite as biased as he COULD be.Plus,no matter what kind of flame war the 2 are in,you shouldn't posty anyone's phone number,address,or personal email,that's just an asshole thing to do.I don't care who it is.

Anonymous (June 21, 2003)

so punk you rag on drive thru.

and other web zines.

that's a punk crusade that should get you to hXc heaven.

Anonymous (June 21, 2003)

And why has no one commented on the band's name?

Rufio?

Like Peter Pan's sidekick from "Hook"????

Comic Book Guy says: "WORST BAND NAME EVER!!!!"

--Cos

Anonymous (June 21, 2003)

you know you're a dork when you argue about which person who runs a website is cooler than the other

Anonymous (June 21, 2003)

scott owns tate

Modern (June 21, 2003)

This score is for the music, which isn't really all that bad, the singer on the other hand...no bueno.

Anonymous (June 21, 2003)

Anyone who has trashed Tate or his bands on his forum have gotten their posting privilges on his page's forum revoked. Wow, how "punk rock" is limiting freedom of speech? But what do you expcect he wears abercrombie....

Anonymous (June 21, 2003)

Worst band ever.

funkisdead (June 21, 2003)

they are good at what they do.

Anonymous (June 21, 2003)

[although the singer's voice is by far the group's weakest point - after 12 tracks of nasally whining, I want to punch the fucker out ]

GREAT FUCKING POINT, I BACK YOU 100%..

Anonymous (June 21, 2003)

Since nobody seems to want to review the actual cds, and choose to review the bands themselves, i will. It's not a bad cd, but it's much more polished then their first and loses some of the...i guess i'll call it "energy" for lack of a better term. Regardless, it's decent but forgettable. Sorry, i have have a life problem to whine about...

thriceequalsgod (June 20, 2003)

oh by the way, nile blows. if you like pointless noise go stick your head in a vacuum

thriceequalsgod (June 20, 2003)

"I don't understand why everyone bashes this band so much, sayin that they are so generic. bands like good charlotte and simple plan are generic. rufio is not. they are talented at what they do and deserve alot of credit. you try picking up a guitar and play the stuff they play. i haven't heard any pop punk band that can play as fast and well as these guys. and who cares if scott's voice kinda sounds weird. rufio is still oine of my fav bands. go ahead and make fun of me cause i'm a 21 year old emo dude. i listen to bands like Nile, darkest hour, and Converge too so shut the fuck up!"

if you read the comments, most people who said it was bad said that the guitars were amazing, but the voice sucks... my opinion is that perhaps is a lot better, and their guitar parts are amazing, but the singer is so high pitched.. the guitar on perhaps makes it bearable tho while this is a little more down tempo and we still have to listen to him whining 90% of the song

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

well scott, my friend loves cutting up his coke with Janet's "The Velvet Rope."

Ramo

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

alright, I'll admit they're really good... but man do they suck live. I've seen them twice. Once at a Poison The Well/RiseAgainst/Strung Out show and then at BrandNew/Taking Back Sunday but geez why can't their shows be as good as their records? I mean really now. Meh *shrugs* oh well. guess it happens sometimes. but yes they are good, but i'll only see 'em if they're playing with someone better, or if i'm not paying for the ticket.

awaitingyes (June 20, 2003)

I don't understand why everyone bashes this band so much, sayin that they are so generic. bands like good charlotte and simple plan are generic. rufio is not. they are talented at what they do and deserve alot of credit. you try picking up a guitar and play the stuff they play. i haven't heard any pop punk band that can play as fast and well as these guys. and who cares if scott's voice kinda sounds weird. rufio is still oine of my fav bands. go ahead and make fun of me cause i'm a 21 year old emo dude. i listen to bands like Nile, darkest hour, and Converge too so shut the fuck up!

FortyMinutesWest (June 20, 2003)

Who cares how hard he works if the end product is crap? And aren't you criticizing people you don't know?

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

Ok you really all do amaze me... I mean really, so what that you don't like the music we cover? Who fucking gives a shit. Jason Tate works a hundred times harder on AbsolutePunk than Scott works on PunkNews... he is in absolutely no position to critisize.

Also that phone number posted was not Jason's phone number, unless I've been calling the wrong number?... and that picture was from SIX YEARS AGO. Why don't all you fuckers grow up and stop criticizing people you don't even know.

Jeremy.

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

I too must agree with you. Rufio is amazing instrmentally. But It sounds like the singer got kicked in the nutts before he recorded and numorus times during the songs. Sadly I had the displeasure of sitting thruogh one of their sets while waiting for another band and they are probally one of the most boring bands to watch live. Honestly I believe they would be better if the dumpped the singer and got new lyrics. But life can't be that great.. now can it?
kbye

and note: If you would like to send me threating email for hating this shitty band go right ahead :0) browns94@bellsouth.net

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

I must say i agree with you about the singer's voice (and pretty much everything else you said)... it would be one thing if he was yah know like 15 then there would be time for his voice to mature and sound...better, however i think it is too late. If you listen to Rise Against's "Like the Angle" you will notice it has rufio type music and lyrics but the singer makes the sound more powerful and deep and less bubble gum. But if thats what they are going for then fine and more power to them.

maverick (June 20, 2003)

I have no idea what any of you are talking about. I'm fighting no war. I'm just doing my job, cashing my paycheck every Friday, and blowing all of it on hookers, cocaine, and Yellowcard CDs.

Sometimes I make the hookers play the violin while I snort cocaine off their asses.

-Scott

adam (June 20, 2003)

I didn't phone it and check, if it was though it's still a prick thing to do

thriceequalsgod (June 20, 2003)

"Kids: posting Mr. Tate's phone number is really, really petty. Let Scott fight his own battles...Ø

was that really his number???

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

Argh i am jason tate and i like to wear abercrombie and lick testicles.

501 (June 20, 2003)

Man youre too hardcore... like pop punk is way not cool is it?

I hate kids like you. And I really dont like this band but they put on a great live show. So all in all this review blew. Why did i even click that link...

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

remember when rufio used to play at the spectrum?

yea, they weren't cool then either. talent wasted on a craptastic final product.

borntolose (June 20, 2003)

"Two steps for you scenesters to follow:
1. Stop posting comments on this board or any others that are similar!
(this is my last)
2. Go out and create your own scene!"

Ahhhhh the scene. I do just love you punx and your favorite word: "the scene".

Jon_the_Skafather (June 20, 2003)

first of all, this band sucks.

second, the cd title is fucking lame. van halen refferences are best left in song lyrics, not album titles.(1984 was written out in roman numerals on their album)

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

Two steps for you scenesters to follow:
1. Stop posting comments on this board or any others that are similar!
(this is my last)
2. Go out and create your own scene!

The internet punk/hardcore community needs to fade fast! Your comments would do nothing but embarass those that have been before you!

sk8punx4evr (June 20, 2003)

what exactly is the history of the ap.net hate? it seems kinda new to me. their site was fucking annoying just casually glancing at it.

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

your a fuckin moron.. and your site is shitty... stop whining because you are a fuckin fat loser who doesnt get any ass...

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

i saw these gu;ys live once but was drunk and jsut wanted strung out to play. i think it was the strung out show. all i remember is it sounds like thrice/strungout/guy from starting line. good musically but i think the singer is pretty weak. no balls to his voice. i like pop punk voices, but they need some passion.

adam (June 20, 2003)

Kids: posting Mr. Tate's phone number is really, really petty. Let Scott fight his own battles...

TheOneTrueBill (June 20, 2003)

hahah

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boy

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

Haha. Someone sick the mafia own this Tate kid. Get him killed.

borntolose (June 20, 2003)

So where are the nudie pics of your sister Scotty boy?

AstroVince (June 20, 2003)

Scott keeps the hits comin'. Fuck the fucking fuckers.

StratManX (June 20, 2003)

I stand by my stance of Rufio is perhaps one of the worst bands I have ever heard. They are also shit live. What was Dexter thinking signing them to Nitro, but then again what was he thinking signing half of the bands that he did?

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

sounds to me like a bunch of people who simply think they are better than everyone else. whats the point of two faggot web sites fighting, here, you both are worthless who do nothing but COMPLAIN. What makes one better than the other. SImple scott thinks hes the punk rock elite of America.

IndplsPunk (June 20, 2003)

That was the worst review ever. you didnt even talk about the songs or anything. all you did was ramble on and on about how only young girls like this band. im 21 and i love this band. they have a real metal influence in their music. if you are going to post reviews, dont post em by people that already hate the band cause that is biased. post one from a fan then if the they dont like the cd, then you can post the bashing "reviews"

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

It is my opinion that anyone that shares the EXACT same musical tastes as a 13 year old girl has no right t0 judge someone elses musical taste. But you do like some crap Scott.

-sickboi

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

at least ap.net can't get that kind of news post to be inaccurate, untrue, or without any kind of accuracy. it's just fucking stupid.

KirbyPuckett (June 20, 2003)

I like how Scott made a news headline on AP for only god knows why. The title of the article is something like "I Never Laughed So Hard." I'm trying to figure out why he was giggling, because all the article has is a link to Scott's homepage and his record collection.

The really sad part is that it's the only piece of news with any comments.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(Long live the cheese)

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

this band is crap and the cover is crap. nice paragraph link there scott. if only they drop the singer and become an instrumental band....

Ramo

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

Over It is ok, though I am really sick of the cock-sucking of Lobster records.

-sickboi

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

OVER IT has plenty of talent, please don't lump them into the "crapfest." Any one whose caught them live or has actually listened to their discs knows better than to say otherwise...

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

i can't stand these guys. my old roomie used to be big into these guys. it's easy to tell him whether or not he's going to like a band. is it pop-punk? yes, ok justin will like it.

anyway, i DO like the album cover. i mean, dinosaur? sweet! reminds me of The Lost World where i thought the dinosaur was driving the boat.

cobra

adam (June 20, 2003)

TahoeJeff: I believe Fanscape contacted a number of sites about doing a Warped site, I wouldnt be suprised if there are others. Don't mix up our administrative decisions with Scott's war.

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

I like this band.....better than most of the generic AP.net/Drive Thru crap-fest . this band has something bands like starting line, over it, and any other band jason tate creams his pants over, because Rufio has something they don't, TALENT. This is a good CD,only like 2 bad songs, everything else is solid.

TahoeJeff (June 20, 2003)

ok scott..I just want to know something..who had the exclusive warped tour page thing first. pn.org or ap.net?

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

i didnt want to like this either, but this band seriously has a good amount of talent. "white lights", "science fiction", and "control" are all really good songs.

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

someone was in a mood, ahem ahem

jeb

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

Hey Scott, is your sister hot?

Seriously though, I feel the same way about Rufio as you. I dont wanna like them, but I do. Those bastards.

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

the cover art is good.

Set it Off and Dipshit were the only two songs I've ever liked by this band though.

FortyMinutesWest (June 20, 2003)

Yeah but that's the archaic definition, you swine! Oh wait, for a second there I thought I cared enough to gripe about word usage. Carry on.

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

de·fame ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-fm)
tr.v. de·famed, de·fam·ing, de·fames
1. To damage the reputation, character, or good name of by slander or libel. See Synonyms at malign.
2. Archaic. To disgrace.

look at the 2nd definition. disgrace, i.e. make fun of, diss, however you want to say it. you can use "defamation" in non-legal linguistics, i wasn't deriving any part of my argument from legal jargon

inagreendase

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

I love how all the reviews on this site are more about the people who write them and their insecurities for liking a certain band!

THE SCENE IS OVER

punky (June 20, 2003)

'fun pop punk?' another band that i won't like...

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

1) it's "defamation" - with only one "m." 2) Black's Law Dictionary: "the act of harming the reputation of another by making a false statement to a third person. If the alleged defamation involves a matter of public concern, the plaintiff is constitutionally required to prove both the statement's falsity and the defendant's fault."

There is no other definition for defamation - and it only applies to statements that are false, presented as factual, not opinion. Perhaps the word you should be using is "insulting" or "disparaging."

KirbyPuckett (June 20, 2003)

Does he even ban ips from dial-up connections? Cause if ya want to really piss him off, just sign off and sign on.

Anyways, after seeing all that shit in the Brand New review about this absolutepunk garbage I went to check things out...People like that website? It's cluttered with more ads than you get in five minutes if you're downloading Aqua Teen Hunger Force off of Kazaa! As a webdesigner, the site is just too goddamn filled with non-sense to make it readable. The content is ass, the reviews are like three sentences that are similar (only a lot worse) to those that would appear in a magazine like Rolling Stone. You know, the magazine that called Mars Volta's record 'punk.'

I'm angry cause the little twat seems to have 'borrowed' a handful of MY AIM BUDDY ICONS!!!

Oh yeah, this is a review...Haven't heard this. Not sure if I will...We'll see what happens.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(I wanna ride my bike!)

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

just dont forget scott, any publicity is good publicity, if you don't want people visiting the site, i'd avoid at least A LITTLE BIT of the linkage.

inagreendase

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

Oh man, thats awesome. Good one Scott. Rather than resort to the petty name-calling like a certain little fanboy webzine.....you make another witty link. Golden.

-sickboi

adam (June 20, 2003)

Wow. Scott's an angry angry boy lately. I suppose in some sort of ass-covering statement I'll say "The views of Scott or any reviewer do not reflect the editorial policy of this website" or something along those lines....

But I'm sure all the targets of his criticism are all reasonable mature adults who won't be bothered by the fact that someone dosen't like them.

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

besides the fact that i could have been using "defammation" in a different context. i could have also said scott just disagrees with ap.net's stance on a lot of things, but i chose a different word for that. some words have different meanings, boys and girls!

inagreendase

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

if you asked hypocritical drive-thru or ap.net they might classify it as defammation. jason bans every kid's ip who points out something ironic about him and...well, we know about DTR...

inagreendase

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

still bashing absolutepunk.net for that post, nice

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

I'm telling Drive-Thru! They'll sue your ass!

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

people shouldn't use the word "defamation" if they really have no clue what the legal requirements are for such. assclown.

Strewtho (June 20, 2003)

Scott's consistent defamation? What about Forty's of Shattered Realm, now that's funny stuff you'll agree.

inagreendase (June 20, 2003)

quite the bitter beaver, aren't we scotty? nah other than dishing out the consistent defammation (which i still had a good laugh at) it was a pretty decent review and i have to agree with most parts. perhaps i suppose was better, this album let me down a bit. although science fiction and set it off are kick-ass songs. everything is just a couple steps above mediocre

siropsycho (June 20, 2003)

i wanna hate this band too but i really can't hate all the stuff they put out
...
i mean their singer sucks but their guitar player has some infectious riffs
...
my friend loves this band and i've got an 8 hour drive with him today...it may just suck

TahoeJeff (June 20, 2003)

I heard worse, pretty catchy stuff, but we already have Thrice and this souns like an imitation. LMAO at the Drivethru comment

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

why all the hate of absolutepunk.net??
WHhhhhhhhhyyy?>

heh.. and good review scott

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

shit! That last comment wasn't supposed to be 10 stars. Dammit. I blame absolutepunk.net.

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

Scott, resist the urges of crap pop. It's all gonna be ok! Put in the re-release of I am the Movie (as I'm sure you already have it) and MCS's pop goodness will wash away all the Rufio right out of yer pretty little head.

soulbleed (June 20, 2003)

'still' and 'above me' were alright off the last album, but their 3 song blew and so does this one. rufio sucks

FortyMinutesWest (June 20, 2003)

Worst band ever*

*not counting:Shattered Realm, Count The Stars, The Break, and Total Chaos*

*void in Wisconsin

Tim-PunkInternational (June 20, 2003)

Good review Scott. I think I hate Rufio about as much as you to seem to want to.

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

rough night, huh?

~Zäk

Anonymous (June 20, 2003)

at least you gave them credit for something.

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