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From Autumn to Ashes

From Autumn to Ashes: The Fiction We LiveThe Fiction We Live (2003)
Vagrant Records

Reviewer Rating: 2.5
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Contributed by: AubinAubin
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Nowadays, there seems to be more and more bands doing the screamy-guy-crying-guy thing. But it seems like none has been as celebrated or derided as Long Island's From Autumn to Ashes. Their debut, Too Bad You're Beautiful was a tolerable record, though sometimes it seemed to me that the "bipol.
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Nowadays, there seems to be more and more bands doing the screamy-guy-crying-guy thing. But it seems like none has been as celebrated or derided as Long Island's From Autumn to Ashes. Their debut, Too Bad You're Beautiful was a tolerable record, though sometimes it seemed to me that the "bipolar band gimick" was more important that the songwriting.

On the other hand, their newest record "The Fiction We Live is far more promising. In some ways, the transitions are still difficult and the band still lurches from metalcore to emotional hard rock far too obviously. But, in spite of this, the songs on this record surprised me.

(Actually, what surprised me more was seeing this record released on Vagrant; a label which has taken it's share of chances, but has had pretty consistent success with gentler, college radio friendly fare. Of course, in many ways, while the band doesn't share an aesthetic similarity with bands like Dashboard Confessional or Saves The Day, they certainly tread heavily in the same lyrically self-pitying and self-depreciating place.)

The first track "The After Dinner Payback" was a unexpected opening. Blasting straight into Benjamin Perri's growled vocals, accompanied by a double-kick barrage of straight up heaviness. Drummer and "singing" vocalist, Francis Mark dips into the song briefly but unlike some of the older material, the contrast is effective. In many ways, the band succeeds admirably in the heavier parts of the record.

While Perri performs strongly throughout the record, Mark's singing is more erratic. On certain tracks, like the first single "Milligram Smile", his vocals meld beautifully with Perri's, with the two layering the singing and screaming on top of one another. On other tracks, like "Alive out Of Habit" Mark's vocals seem too weak to carry the song.

One question I've heard from people is regarding the lyrical content, and unfortunately, this record, like their previous one, contains it's share of PSAT words, and overtly maudlin pseudo-poetry, but it's still a big improvement from Too Bad Your Beautiful.

The only track that really annoyed me to the point of forcing a skip every time it came on was the painful "Autumns Monologue"; sung mostly by Melanie Willis who also performed on 'Short Stories With Tragic Endings' from their last, it feels completely out of place on the record and destroys the otherwise strong flow between tracks up to and after that point.

Still, in spite of a few difficult points, this is a much improved band with much improved songwriters, and managed to convince at least one of the naysayers that there was more to this band that their first record promised.

 

 
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Satelliteyrs (December 10, 2006)

masterpiece

BooFace (November 18, 2005)

yea they pretty much rock
i wish they would play and sing to their full potential tho

Anonymous (May 30, 2005)

This album was aiight, wouldnt buy it though. Id recommend having a friend burn it for you or just pirate the whole thing and burn it yourself, in other words ive heard better. Im headed more for a different genre than a lot of you guys anyways, but overall i wouldnt spend money on it, a few select songs caught my attention and sounded good, but none impressed me.

Anonymous (May 30, 2005)

all you punk rock loving bastards just need to shut up and actually listen to a goddamn album before you rate it, and actually listen to better music than this, fuck all your alls shit. Your warped tour and your complaining bullshit music. Later BITCHES!

Anonymous (February 12, 2005)

Shai Hulud SUX!

Anonymous (February 12, 2005)

Isn't it funny how alot of people actually start liking some good rock (like FATA) and all the little fuckers who are to "hardcore" to listen to good music start runnig their mouth. Believe me i like all this controversy, but why are you talking on the FATA cd review if you don't like them? You need to figure yourself OUT!

Anonymous (December 7, 2004)

how can you consider thrice to be METAL?

Anonymous (November 26, 2004)

and if you'd listen carefully you'd realize that thrice is metal too

Anonymous (November 25, 2004)

"And FATA doesn't compare musically to Avenged Sevenfold, thrice, or other artists in that genre."

avenged sevenfold and thrice are in completely different genres! if you'd actually listen carefully, you'd notice that a7x is mostly a metal band, not hardcore

Anonymous (November 25, 2004)

i really liked this cd, but if you are looking for 'hardcore' music than its probably not the cd for you

Anonymous (November 25, 2004)

this album is good- i managed to listen to the whole thing without skipping a song...

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

this cd is so awsome and kicks ass and even though it is not as hard as too bad your beautiful but stil is awsome FATA.

Anonymous (March 10, 2004)

i love death metal and this ALBUM IS SO SICK I LOVE IT the whole album rocks and any hardcore kid who thinks they are so bad but cant listen to death metal and still talks shit about this band is a pussy it is fucking bad

Anonymous (March 10, 2004)

I think this review is not correct the track "Autumns Monologue" is the best track of all it has so much feeling and so much sorrow it makes the album complete it is so amazing i cant stop listening to it. everyone listen to this track a million times it is great

Anonymous (January 8, 2004)

1st of all,this album rock's,some of those shit head said:the drumer voice bla bla bla!!,my fucking opinion is the 2 singers,defenetly awesome for me,but shit heads goe's:o they got softer bla bla bla!!for god saik,that's what sing is all about,it's like the band have satan and god rocking the hell of this fucking good for nothing world,god damnit...well,a tip,get a heavier distortion and shut the mouth of all those fucking shit heads...good luck in your next album,hope is more heavier,and the 2 singers fucking rock's keep going your good...fuck you verymuch for tour attention

Anonymous (December 30, 2003)

i think the cd is fuckin awesome i allways thought they were n jus cus they say its complx n all that shyt like that fuck the media they allways switch things around to make it sound better even tho its not THAT hardcore liek they all say doesnt mean the cd sux i think fata is awesome n i hope they keep workin on another cd

Anonymous (November 24, 2003)

I like this alright, but its just missing something. Originality perhaps?

-bemused-

Anonymous (October 7, 2003)

The drummer should only sing back-up. The real singer's voice has improved over their last CD though. Their next CD should by great as long as they listen to their audience's criticism this time around.
The drummer's voice is way too whiny.

Anonymous (September 26, 2003)

genious :)

Anonymous (September 24, 2003)

You want complex hardcore metal? Listen to SHAI HULUD. It blows this shit out of the water.

judo (September 23, 2003)

this is fucking terrible. i was looking forward to this but now am incredibly let down. everyone is right when they say that the drummer should just shut the fuck up.

and i liked the too bad. well too bad (haha) this is garbage.

FortyMinutesWest (September 18, 2003)

That should've said "not that complex"

Anonymous (September 18, 2003)

I accidentally gave it a good rating, i wasn't paying attention, this will make up for it

Anonymous (September 18, 2003)

My emo friend said he loved it

My hardcore friend says that it blows

I'm gonna stick with my hardcore friend on this and not waste my money, cuz emo blows

NOFXPunkLTJ22 (September 18, 2003)

"I thought this album was really good, i just don't undersatnd all the people bashing it, if you dont like it, why are you so intent on screaming your head off about it. The drummer is a decent singer, im sure better than any critic here could do and hes a badass drummer. "Too Bad You're Beautiful" was a better record in my opinion. But they do write very music very well even if you dont want to admit it, just look at bands like blink 182 or new found glory who rely on powerchords and easy basslines. this band actually takes the time and writes fairly complex music, but i see nobody even giving them that much. The people that bash here couldnt do better so i dont see why they have to be assholes. Frankly, i think they are jealous because people like it and they cant do better. Im not talking out of my ass, im in a profession rock band www.systematicfailure.net and i know what it takes to be a good musician and From Autumn to Ashes is defintiely a good band."

No offense, I checked your website out, but you guys aren't a professional rock band, your a LOCAL rock band. It is obvious to notice you are local. And FATA doesn't compare musically to Avenged Sevenfold, thrice, or other artists in that genre. Just so you know, their riffs are fairly simple.

FortyMinutesWest (September 18, 2003)

This music is really that complex, most of the riffs are fairly simple.

Anonymous (September 18, 2003)

I thought this album was really good, i just don't undersatnd all the people bashing it, if you dont like it, why are you so intent on screaming your head off about it. The drummer is a decent singer, im sure better than any critic here could do and hes a badass drummer. "Too Bad You're Beautiful" was a better record in my opinion. But they do write very music very well even if you dont want to admit it, just look at bands like blink 182 or new found glory who rely on powerchords and easy basslines. this band actually takes the time and writes fairly complex music, but i see nobody even giving them that much. The people that bash here couldnt do better so i dont see why they have to be assholes. Frankly, i think they are jealous because people like it and they cant do better. Im not talking out of my ass, im in a profession rock band www.systematicfailure.net and i know what it takes to be a good musician and From Autumn to Ashes is defintiely a good band.

Anonymous (September 17, 2003)

I must say the majority of you guys are close minded and full of shit. If you like something then like it, stop being in this "Oh that's too trendy" or "This is too soft pussies" mindset.

This album is not really bad at all. I thoroughly enjoyed Milligram Smile, I think it pulls in a lot of influence from Thursday in that the hardcore is really used to highlight the normal singing - it really adds a new angle to their music which brings shivers and a chill to my spine at some points.

I must say that I really liked "Too Bad You're Beautiful" but I have to agree with the reviewer here: This album has MUCH more genuine and generally good lyrics than their last.

Anyhow, I also like Thursday. In fact Full Collapse in my opinion has some of the most amazing lyrics of any CD I've recently owned. 'Autobiography of a Nation' for example is so pertanent to the current state of affairs in the world. 'Concealer' also has absolutely amazing lyrical content.

That being said, I also wanted to mention that (as an owner of War All The Time) while the musical aspect of Thursday has in my opinion improved - the lyrics are just not as good as their previous two albums.

--erist0crat

Anonymous (September 16, 2003)

I tried to see these guys in New Jersey but they wouldnt let me becuase I wasnt wearing sauconys nor a trucker hat.

FortyMinutesWest (September 16, 2003)

Maybe people make fun of this band because they don't like their music, crazy thought, isn't it?

Anonymous (September 16, 2003)

All you fagots who are trying to gain scene points by ridiculing this band should shut the fuck up. I'm sure I listen to more "underground", "heavier" music than the lot of you, but I'm not going on some egotistical joyride trying to put down everyone that doesn't like grind or metal, so fuck off.

Anonymous (September 16, 2003)

Will these guys STOP making music?

Granted, some of their stuff is okay, but other than that, it's just another phony-ass, depressed/sad-about-some-girl bullshit. What a cliche band name too.

THE DRUMMER IS FUCKING HORRIBLE. I could fart into a mic for the melody parts on this CD, and it would sounds millions of times better than that jackass.

Anonymous (September 16, 2003)

granted its not as good as their previous album, but FATA are still more daring than most bands out there trying to make heavy music. you gotta love the old school metal riffs and the frenetic double bass drumming. and at least they're not one-dimensional and have the balls to put a song or two in there with a different pace and even a female lead vocal. they throw in stuff from so many different genres to create something that is distinctly their own without compromise. i don't know what the hell else you jokers are listening to.

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

wow. you fucking tools like this band? my advice, go get some better taste in music. jesus.

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooop

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

Ok, this album is by no means perfect, but it is a pretty damn good follow-up to an incredible album. I would not expect anything less than senseless bashing from all of you scenester fucks.

I do agree with the Fordirelifesake comment. They are an incredible band deserving of more attention, but FATA holds it's own as well.

Go back to your snobby hole, assholes

annonymous (September 15, 2003)

the decemberists are really good everyone listen to them

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

Here is my real score for this album.

-Justin

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

Aubin is a fucking badical dude!

-Justin

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

From Autum to Ashes fucken rules but i think yor other cd is better because its more heavier and that is bad ass fuck all you bastards that dont like them.

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

Why do all you emo pussies get so defensive when peopple actually see through the bullshit when it comes to bands like this. Look, im telling you right now; people will be denying that they ever liked this shit in about two years. So settle the fuck down.

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

SCREAMO stole my virginity!

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

Yes Aubin, even though this is your website, stop writing reviews. Your opinion differs from some anonymous poster.

...evildeadalive

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

To the reviewer: just writing that this crap is better than "too bad is beautiful" shows your total lack of critical thinking

do yourself a favor stop reviewing

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

I'm such a tool

-sickboi

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

This is sic dude
sic
this sic

eyeore

Anonymous (September 15, 2003)

FATA aren't homophobes, they embrace all people of all sexuality, ethnicty and cultures. I love FATA and Scott is really sexy.

AlbertFreddyIngram (September 14, 2003)

ooooooooooooo, you guys are *so* cool with your advanced copies and such. You must know the band or something.

FatTony (September 14, 2003)

I would also like to know about this gay-bashing thing. All I need is another reason to dislike this band. I had to see them live once and they're fucking terrible live. The drummer's "singing" especially.

inagreendase (September 14, 2003)

does anyone have a source or a link for this gay-bashing thing?

FortyMinutesWest (September 14, 2003)

Bad mainstream rap is the new hair metal.

Anonymous (September 14, 2003)

Actually I believe Nu-Metal is the next hairmetal.

Anonymous (September 14, 2003)

Fuck these gay bashers.

Nonsense (September 14, 2003)

I despise this band's music. They're even worse live.

Anonymous (September 14, 2003)

"I think I'll stick to Fordirelifesake when I want to hear something in this vein..."

amen hermano. "breathing is only half the function" is a great album. someone should review it.

Ramo
(I would but I lack motivation)

Anonymous (September 13, 2003)

I liked some of Too Bad...but god this sucks.I think I'll stick to Fordirelifesake when I want to hear something in this vein. Not only have they been together longer and write better songs, they don't have a fucking whiny ass tortured artist type doing high annoying vocals.

FortyMinutesWest (September 13, 2003)

Diecast had one tolerable song, I don't remember the title of it, but they're nowhere near the level of shit that Shattered Realm is on. That band makes me want to throw my CD player away.

Anonymous (September 13, 2003)

Without question, rivaling Shattered Realm and Diecast for the worst band in the world title.

Anonymous (September 13, 2003)

This album is far from being as good as their first one which is fuckin good so shut the fuck up

Anonymous (September 13, 2003)

""age of quarrel" was so much better than this"

comment of the day.

Anonymous (September 13, 2003)

WOW! This CD is better then 5 lines of meth, I put it on and had my apartment
cleaned in less then an hour!!!

Screamo changed my life!

Anonymous (September 13, 2003)

The drummer still can't sing.

Anonymous (September 13, 2003)

"i picked this up on tuesday and i think its pretty damn good, though i cant wait for the new thursday in a few days! [/boner]"

yes, my friend has an advance copy which i reviewed and has yet to be posted. plus that fucker has spilled all over the internet.
-benz

dignin (September 13, 2003)

"In a related story: emo is the next hair-metal. Come on, think about it. Emo and hair-metal both share the common trait of style over substance. It used to be big hair and spandex now its mop-tops and designer jeans. Go ahead and deny everything but one day it will all come around."

When any genre of music gets big and passes the innovative stage to imitators its about fashion, including punk, ska, hardcore, grunge, and yes emo

Anonymous (September 13, 2003)

Good lord....I just got back from the Black Flag Reunion show and I am now in utter disgust. The legacy of my favorite band of all time has been raped of its dignity by a bunch of old guys who were horrifically under rehearsed and over hyped.

thebouncingsoul (September 13, 2003)

autumn's monologue is the only decent thing on this record...

pwfanatic (September 13, 2003)

i had a hell of a time making it through the first three tracks and then stopped there. i liked "too bad your beautiful" alright, but these guys struck out on this one.

sweetsugarpezz (September 13, 2003)

"in my opinion", and "in my humble opinion".

i picked this up on tuesday and i think its pretty damn good, though i cant wait for the new thursday in a few days! [/boner]

-sweetsugarpezz

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

What do IMO, and IMHO mean? Seeing as we're on the subject of filling in dumbasses like me...

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

Another thing i dont get. Why in the holy fuck do all these "hardcore" bands have these ridiculous run-on sentences for names. Are these guys trying to scare me or something. Pussies. You win, im scared. Im scared that even more of this shit is on the way and its never going to stop. In a related story: emo is the next hair-metal. Come on, think about it. Emo and hair-metal both share the common trait of style over substance. It used to be big hair and spandex now its mop-tops and designer jeans. Go ahead and deny everything but one day it will all come around.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

"age of quarrel" was so much better than this

inagreendase (September 12, 2003)

not to mention that the PSAT is actually just a test that will determine what you will likely get on the REAL test that you need to take for universities (the SAT)

aubin (September 12, 2003)

A PSAT is a standardized test administered to students in high school who want to go to American universities. About half the test is on verbal skills, and there is a big section that evaluates your vocabulary.

mcpike (September 12, 2003)

guys*

mcpike (September 12, 2003)

my favorite thing these ever done was mercury rising.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

no seriously, what's PSAT

InTheShapeOfaWineGlass (September 12, 2003)

I got to say that this album is a step up from "too bad your beauiful" but sometimes the barrage of constant fork in the head screaming can be annoying. Still a solid release from a band that I previously loathed. In other news Thursdays new album is infuckincredible. Cant wait...

MikeRiot (September 12, 2003)

"this "hardcore" shit wasnt good in the early nineties and sure as hell isnt good now."

what the hell are you talking about?

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

Image-core must die.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

Oh Auby-poo, the world would be a bland place if we didn't have our varying opinions.

And I really hate to admit this, but I listened to a little of the new Thursday and *gulp*.....actually kinda liked it. If its on sale for a decent price I may just pick it up.

-sickboi
(I'm such a hypocrite)

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

Is it just me? Beaucse i really dont get this shit. Who the fuck told all these bands that this style of "music" was good. You have the stupid singer guy screeching and then some other pussy in the band crying like a little girl. Wake the fuck up america!this "hardcore" shit wasnt good in the early nineties and sure as hell isnt good now.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

Too Bad You're Beautiful is much better, IMHO.

inagreendase (September 12, 2003)

that DVD set kicks ass. now only if my opinion was actually substantial since I don't own it.

damn collegiate financial restrictions

aubin (September 12, 2003)

inagreendase, thanks for the corrections. I put off writing this till the last possible minute and probably should have proofread it. I planned to, but I just got these new Family Guy DVDs and well, watching those is more fun then proofreading.

Or maybe I just suck at writing. That's unpossible!

aubin (September 12, 2003)

Sickboi, you know that I agree with you on most things, but I do like Thursday. And in fairness, I like Thursday a lot more than these guys, but I did my best to be impartial on this review.

I still don't like the drummer's vocals, but the lead vocalist is the screamy guy, and I like his stuff.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

Ugh, how can you people listen to this noise. Its like Thursday, only more annoying (yes, oddly enough thats possible), with a lead vocalist that sounds like a cat being skinned alive, and absolutely no damn harmony.

You kids will never fucking learn.

-sickboi

inagreendase (September 12, 2003)

the english teacher niche is usually one i avoid around here, but you forgot an ending parentheses...and misspelled "overtly" unless "overlty" is a word and i'm unaware. no offense aubin, it just doesn't look too good when you're making fun of a band for using PSAT words and end up misspelling one of your own. Oh well, it was for vocabularic depth, not mechanics.

I couldn't stand a note off Too Bad... but a couple songs off here are very tolerable

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

I really don't think the drummer can carry the band with his voice. It's fine in small doses, and I even think No Trivia is a great song, but the other tracks that he's the main focus (like "The Second Wrong" and the last track) are the worst tracks on the album. And Autumn's Monlogue should have been much shorter. I like Melanie's voice, and I really like One True Thing, but come on, she shouldn't have a whole track devoted to her on another band's album. It should have been around as long as the title track, seeing as they're supposed to be connected.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

this band is a fucking joke. their set at krazy fest last year was painful to sit through. can you say "cashing in"?

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

Could some one please tell me what a PSAT word is?

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

i am not digging this album at all.the DRUMMER sings on more tracks than the VOCALIST does...what the hell? i would like it if it were a little faster and the singer actually sang more. but thats just me.
-benz

musical-monkey (September 12, 2003)

"didnt they record the album before they signed to vagrant. i thought they were supposed to go to island, but i guess islands budget couldnt hold them after thursday and thrice came aboard."

They were going to be signed to Island but Island apparently didn't like the cd or it wasn't what the expected, something like that. I've been listening to the cd on radiotakeover.com and I really dig it, but the drummer singing on all the songs is not cool. He does a good job on After Dinner Payback though. Still a strong cd.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

after dinner payback is a fucking awesome song...
i liked the few grind intros they had on too bad you're beautiful... i liked some of the slow stuff here... together they'd make for a good live show.. by itself the album is just alright...
after the first song it doesn't stay with that kind of power...
i prolly would buy it.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

I wish these guys would stop making music.

mumbleumbolous (September 12, 2003)

didnt they record the album before they signed to vagrant. i thought they were supposed to go to island, but i guess islands budget couldnt hold them after thursday and thrice came aboard.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

of course these guys got soft, they signed to vagrant. not saying vagrant was all hey guys release a soft album, but they were probably heading in the direction of wanting to go soft then an oppurtunity to sign with vagrant came along and they were all over it

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

It's funny because Autumn's Monologue is the best song on the album.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

The drummer sings on every song on this album, plus alone on an acoustic tracks, then there is also ANOTHER acoustic track with the girl from "short stories" singing. "Too Bad You're Beautiful" was SO much better. These guys got soft.

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

i just wish the drummer sang less...fuck he sucks

Anonymous (September 12, 2003)

Good album, but Too Bad You're Beautiful kicked the shit out of this one. After Dinner Payback is definitely the highlight of the album.

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