Hatebreed - The Rise Of Brutality (Cover Artwork)


Hatebreed: The Rise Of BrutalityThe Rise Of Brutality (2003)
Stillborn Records

Reviewer Rating: 2.5
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Contributed by: maverickScott
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Great, just what we need - a rise of brutality. Connecticut's cuddliest sweethearts, Hatebreed, return to the metal/hardcore scene with guns a'blazin, intent on reclaiming their title of "most macho band in hardcore." With these twelve songs, I'd say they're a bit of a shoe-in. This is hardcore.
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Great, just what we need - a rise of brutality. Connecticut's cuddliest sweethearts, Hatebreed, return to the metal/hardcore scene with guns a'blazin, intent on reclaiming their title of "most macho band in hardcore." With these twelve songs, I'd say they're a bit of a shoe-in.

This is hardcore at it's most basic and most intense. The guitars fly, the drums explode, and "singer" Jamey Jasta intimidates with each word growled. With song titles like "Doomsayer," "Another Day, Another Vendetta," and "Confide In No One," you can pretty much figure this stuff isn't that of indie shoegazer pop. Hatebreed is a hardcore band, with no other gimmicks needed.

That being said, this CD is like 32 minutes of white noise to me. Contrary to popular belief, I do like some hardcore, but it has to challenge me while I listen to it. Everything on this album, as powerful as it is [and I won't lie, my head starts to bang in some of the heavier parts on this disc, like the end of "Facing What Consumes You"] is still rather paint-by-numbers. Hatebreed is often imitated, as they are one of the originators of this wave of hardcore, but the problem lies that instead of challenging the bands that copy them and re-invent their sound [or at least try to spice it up a little], the group is content cranking out the same ol', same ol'.

Even with my complaint, I would still recommend this to anyone I know that listens to real hardcore. It's a defining album for the band and their fans alike.

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TommyPickles (April 15, 2008)

I gave Hatebreed a chance but really, how can anyone call this hardcore?

douglas_is_rad (October 8, 2007)

Ahahahahah. This review has some of THE FUNNIEST comments since that Madball review. Amazing.

Score is for the review and the comments that followed it.

As for the album itself: Hatebreed does xtuffxguyx hardcore. I don't like that. I think it sucks, and I think the people who listen to it take hardcore WAYYYYY too seriously. Just take a chill pill, breathe in deeply, and have some fucking fun. I guess Hatebreed does what they do well, but I can't get into it.

PJZ (July 4, 2007)

This band is fucking terrible, i swear to god, i hate them

hcrnz (April 8, 2007)

This might be a pretty generalised statement, but after reading the comments on this site relating to bands that I consider decent (although this album is crap compared to Satisfaction is the death of...) I have come to the conclusion that the majority of people posting comments are a bunch of braindead kids with no sense of what hardcore is about.. Let me tell you a few things, sitting on your fat ass in front of your parents computer talking shit about a scene that many people love and live for doesn't make you hardcore... wearing chucks and cammo shorts and having purple bits in your gay little spiky hairdo doesn't make you hardcore, or even punk... I come from a country where there isn't a particularly big scene and we seldom have international bands play here...... My point is that last month Hatebreed played here and I went along with my mates and had a fuckn wicked time, they mostly played songs off this album but I didn't give a fuck because it was live and the vibe was electric..... so shut the fuck up and get out there, you might even loose some weight if u get a sweat on in the pit you stupid fat idiots.. consider yourselves lucky that you can see these bands live as often as you can (even though you claim to hate everything)... thats all I got to say! PS: go fuck yourselves!

Anonymous (November 22, 2006)

Dear Liz and all you other racists.
thank you, not for your lack of love and understanding in this world of many cultures and ethnicities but for the simple fact that if it weren't for dumbfucks such as your selves, we would have nobody to flip our burgers. please continue driving big trucks around and blowing skinhead hick white trash for crack and keep flipping those burgers. congratulations on finding the perfect sound track to listen to while driving to walmart for huggies cause that fat fuck skin knocked you up. racists are the asshole of humanity so at least be proud you belong to SOME faction of society. weeeeee now get a tat on your ass like the roof of the general lee!! i'm sure your uncle jessie will love to have a target when he is procreating.

GODSEND (October 22, 2006)

I am the true hated. I am who hatebreed lovers and hatebreed themselves hate. Yet i am god to all of you. You see, i am in all of your nightmares, wishes and dreams and hopes! i am invencible but yet many are your futile attemps to destroy me. I control your every thought and desire. So much that you have givin me many nicknames and wrote songs about me. I'm in your minds when you wake up, when you eat and play and finally when you lay down for what could be your final rest should i choose. I am the most powerful being on the face of the earth because i am dark enough to hide in your shadows and destroy you from the inside out. If my flesh were to succomb today, i will still live and thrive in the back of the minds and thoughts of the hatebreed band and it's followers. Yes, i am imortal because you have made me so. Therefore i am your god. Thank you!

p. S. You all that are of the hatebreed mindset remember that you are hatebreed and that you were bred to hate me. "you were bred for my purpose"

Anonymous (July 21, 2006)

wow i was gonna say something but their fans have already proved my point , racist white trash music that could be played by a bunch of fucking monkeys. i hope these guys rot and die a slow death for preaching racism and putting out this shitty music. FUCK HATEBREED AND ALL YOU WHITE POWER RACIST PIECE OF SHIT GO FOLLOW HITLER IN EVRYTHING HE SAID AND BELIEVED AND HOPEFULLY ILL FIND YOUR HEADLESS STUMP OF A BODY SO I CAN SPIT ON IT.

Anonymous (May 29, 2006)

Pretty gay, repetitive shit.....Kill the Niggers was cool...but all in all this was a CD that came with my Corn Flakesā?¦

Anonymous (May 18, 2006)

mann, some of the comments on this review are hilarious.

Jim_Neighbors (March 4, 2006)

boring, lame, and repetitive. i hate you hatebreed, i hate you alot.

Anonymous (March 3, 2006)


Anonymous (January 21, 2006)

theyre homophobic and rascist yet another reason not to like this record

miff (November 2, 2005)

wow u guys seem pretty pissed off by this record please dont be racist

Anonymous (October 12, 2005)

who cares what genre u try to put this in it is still a great record

Anonymous (August 1, 2005)

Dumb fashion metal, they even got their own fucking ringtones...

Score is for pussy.

Anonymous (June 7, 2005)

Oh my fucking god, Hatebreed is the fucking worst.
They are not familiar, in no way, with the concept of "songwriting"; Converge, Paint it Black or From Ashes Rise are 12987600054000 better than that bunch of losers. Fuck them and their shitty music.

Anonymous (April 24, 2005)

Any of you fucking NIGGERS out there that say Hatebreed are fags or bitches or queers, ALL you mother fuckers deserve to hang and burn holocaust style.

Anonymous (April 7, 2005)

A girl called "Liz" is racist? What the fuck?!


Anonymous (April 2, 2005)

hey what's up hatebreed is a awesome band and they are kick ass in concert. But one thing i will say is even if hatebreed are racist more power to them cause iam too and i think everyone is intitled to think and feel how they want so fuck other people who talk shit about it cause us white's who hate have reasons why and we shouldn't have to tell the whole world our secrets and if people want to be jumping your ass about it well fuck off and go on with your life everyone has a freedom of speech and leave some alone who hate cause thats the way we feel and this message is to anyone who is against how i feel cause i don't give a fuck iam racist and will continue to be and if hatebreed is wich i kinda think they are cause they wrote a song and it's called kill niggers and i know this for a fact cause i burn cds on my computer and found that soung while downloading there songs from the net. But like i said more power to hatebreed cause they rock and iam totaly fine with them being racist cause iam too and they are true white boys and play some damn good music and perform live kick ass. So anyone who is not racist out there thats you but leave others alone that are and like i said if hatebreed are racist so fuckin what move on and let them feel how they want to feel cause metal is hate and full of violence and head bangin and drinkin beer and jagermeister and being a racist hater and white power!!!! HATEBREED KEEP ON ROCKIN AND LIKE I SAID IF YOU ARE REALLY RACIST MORE POWER TO YOU BROTHER AND KEEP ON HATING AND PLAYING GOOD MUSIC. FROM, LIZ.

Anonymous (February 4, 2005)

O, and you can go cry in a corner and listen to Yellowcard while I taking a giant stinking Hatebreed loving piss on your faggy queer face, bitch.

Anonymous (February 4, 2005)

fuck you faggot

Anonymous (January 13, 2005)

fucking terrible

Anonymous (December 8, 2004)

It sickens me to read the comments of some of you ignorants. Some of you people got it right. But to the pothead queers that own wimpy, wanna be, fucking insense stinking tie died 70's hippie band T-Shirt selling, Jim Morrison is fucking dead poster on the wall bullshit ratfuck record stores, and all you suburbanite pop culture "I've had everything handed to me, mommy and daddy buy my clothes for me from the Shittercrombie catalogue pop culture spikey haired bitchy china doll PUSSIES, I think theres a misunderstanding. If you like this music because it's heavy, kicks your ass and pumps you up, thats great. But, for those of us that are angry about injustices we see, at our fathers for beating the dogshit out of us, at our mothers that didn't want us....for those of us who have had to fight for every FUCKING thing we ever had, and are willing to fight and die for the people we love...our friends and families...for those of us that look at every day as a fucking struggle and never back down to adversity...to those of us who will never EVER sell our people out for anything...for those of us who will take to our graves the conviction and love and truth that we strive so hard to achieve each passing day...this music is FUEL! CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? No one gives a fuck about a shitty music review, and none of us care that a record label is trying to hose us and get us to buy this shit. We aren't the kind of people that buy shit because it's cool and we don't want to be on MTV and get our faggy fucking ABERCROMBIE CLOTHES AT THE FUCKING MALL!! WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SMARTASS BULLSHITTERS THAT LIKE TO TALK THE TALK AND BEG FOR SOMEONE TO STAND UP FOR US! WE ARE OUT IN THE WORLD CLAWING EVERY FUCKING DAY! WE ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT LOVE TO WORK 15 HOUR DAYS AND SMILE IN THE RAIN AS WE WORK OUR HANDS TO THE FUCKING BONE! WE WOULD JUMP IN FRONT OF A BUS FOR OUR BUDDIES AND WE WOULD GLADLY FUCKING DIE FOR THE PEOPLE WE LOVE! WE DON'T HIDE. WE AREN'T WEAK. WE AREN'T POP CULTURE AND WE WON'T TALK SHIT THAT WE CAN'T BACK UP. OUR WORD IS BOND. WE LOVE AND WE HATE. WE VOICE INTOLERANCE FOR WEAKNESS AND ARE QUICK TO HELP THOSE THAT NEED AND WANT HELP FOR THEMSELVES. WE ARE REAL. WE ARE PEOPLE OF ACTION AND WE ARE WHAT OTHERS FEAR THE MOST. WE WILL TEAR THE FUCK DOWN ALL OF THE WALLS AND OBSTACLES AND OVERCOME. Don't be scared. Get on your fucking feet and quit hiding behind your peer pressures and your bullshit weaknesses. Thats what this music means to us. Its love and hate and anger and elation. Its pure emotion. Its heartfelt and I love it. I have been touched by it. And I am truly thankful that I have it in my life. And so to Jamey, Shawn Chris and Matt...you have been heard. Thank you.

Anonymous (November 22, 2004)

worst fucking band ever.

Anonymous (October 12, 2004)

any little bitchs that think this band is bad in any way can suck my dick.all u little fucking bitchs come on here talking shit about this band ....just do me 1 favor go see them in concert.....go up and say that they suck to the singers face see what happens....not a good idea...

maersk (September 25, 2004)

total suckfest

maersk (September 24, 2004)

just another "were tough as fuck but were also secretly gay" bands that have too little brains and too many tattoos.

Anonymous (June 23, 2004)

Hatebreed sucks! they 've cancelled both shows in zurich (last and this year) because they diidn^t want to play in this little club! fuck them!!!

Anonymous (February 9, 2004)

Interesting story, Chris.

Anonymous (December 24, 2003)

"Why I never bought the Hatebreed CD"

by Chris Bickel

People involved in Punk music love to subject other people involved in Punk music to their idiotic whimsies and pathetic best-left-in-the-journal introspection. They sandwich it between some record reviews and photocopied pleas for the pardon of Mumia Abu Jamal and call it "zines". Being no different than any other self-involved would-be Punk Rock publisher, I too have produced in my lifetime a few such wastes of our Earth's dwindling natural resources. One of my efforts in the world of indiezinedom was called "SNIP". It was just as self-serving and pointless as any other zinester's effort, though gracefully lacking the record reviews, Mumia and PETA xeroxes, and bad emo-introspection/sap. The best thing that "SNIP" had going for it was the cover which featured Alphonso Ribero moonwalking in front of the Statue of Liberty. The "SNIP" logo was the "SPIN" logo cut up and rearranged.

I think I managed to xerox about 60 copies of SNIP which were taken along on one of IN/HUMANITY's North American tours. I think I either sold or gave away about 40 copies on that tour. Basically, I had thrown SNIP together in a few hours as a means of getting money for RC Colas and Nip-chees. It served its purpose, as I had all the RC and Nip-chee I required on that trip around the US and Canada.

After returning home I wanted to get rid of my remaining copies of SNIP, so I set up a table at a local Hardcore show. On the bill was a local band named STRETCH ARMSTRONG and some other chugga-chugga type acts. One of the bands on the bill was a newer group that I'd never heard of, HATEBREED.

I didn't actually care much about who was on the bill, as I am not a huge fan of the type of Hardcore that appeals to overdeveloped gymkata-practicing short-haired jocks in basketball tank-tops . I was just there to unload my remaining zines on some punk kids.

After about 20 minutes and having sold only 4 or 5 copies of SNIP I hear the kind of booming beligerent voice one might more likely hear at 3:00 AM in a cowboy bar than at a Veteran's Hall Hardcore show: "Where's the little faggot that wrote this shit!?? Are you the little faggot that wrote this shit!???"

A thicknecked ogre from the band HATEBREED lumbered towards me.

"Are you the little faggot that wrote this shit?!"

"I suppose I am that faggot, yes," I replied.

I was then blitzed with threats of a severe asskicking at my apparent "dissing" of the band's record label: Victory Records. I was repeatedly called a "faggot" for having written an article that poked fun at the business practices of a minor league label trying to run with the big boys. By this time a group of about 30 attendees were surrounding me. The entire band HATEBREED gathered around. Half of the band members tried to argue somewhat less than rationally about the perspective of my article (which essentially reprinted the hilariously corporate-minded promotional "one-sheets" sent to record stores to "shift units" for Victory Records -- with my own smart-ass comments written into the margins). The other half of the band continued to puff their chests and threaten me with severe pummelings. The singer of STRETCH ARMSTRONG physically stepped in between to prevent one of the HATEBREEDERS from physically breaking me in half. I tried my best to casually slouch back in my chair behind my Jackie Onassis black sunglasses and grin. Admittedly I was a tad apprehensive of a major imminent ass pounding, but the hilarity of the increasingly absurd situation did make it easy to play it off into a coy boyish smile.

I held my ground firmly, asserting that Victory Records was trying to sell false ideals of Hardcore being a lifestyle and a "movement", when their press releases to record shops clearly showed that they were no different than CAPITOL or WARNER BROTHERS. Is Hardcore really a youth movement when a record label promises "sniping campaigns in key markets to promote product awareness"? For that matter, what the hell is a "sniping campaign"? Do they send snipers out to the mall stores to shoot anyone that doesn't buy the new EARTH CRISIS CD? When a one-sheet goes out to a record store stating that "violence at shows promotes controversy, and controversy sells records", I feel no less than obligated to speak my mind. The kind of kids that put on shows at Vets Halls are into Hardcore because it means something more to them than an E chord mosh part (or D chord mosh part) and a heavy breakdown. Those are the kids that needed to be informed of the tactics labels like Victory were using on them. My article was printed both for informational purposes, and for the (higher) purpose of me doing something I enjoy: being a fucking smartass. The members of HATEBREED didn't like the article, but I don't know if they were upset over the smartassishness, or the fact that I was revealing the secret marketing strategies of their home label.

The singer of HATEBREED, Jamie, was the "thinker" of the bunch and actually listened to my points and offered a few semi-valid rebuttals. Eventually the band backed off because it was their time to play. Every copy of SNIP sold after the fracas, and I smiled to look around the room and see a bunch of kids reading my zine instead of watching HATEBREED's performance.

Several months later, HATEBREED returned to Columbia. I wasn't even aware that they were playing in town until I stopped by the record store I owned (NEW CLEAR DAYS) afterhours to pick up a movie to watch. There was a message on the answering machine from the singer of HATEBREED. Apparently, unbeknownst to me, someone had printed flyers up chronicling the events of the previous show and had handed them out at that evening's HATEBREED gig. Basically the flyer accused the band of being homophobic thugs amongst other not-so-nice things. (In the original argument that had taken place between myself and the band, I brought up the term "homophobic" in response to the band member that kept repeatedly calling me a "faggot". One of the other members of the band intelligently quipped: "oh he isn't afraid of faggots... he just fucking hates them.")

The answering machine message went like this:
"Hello, this message is for Chris, this is Jamie from the band HATEBREED. I happen to be the most unforgiving and intolerant member of the band. I also happen to be a homophobe... and I was just calling to try to straighten out this little matter that we have here. Apparently you are distributing some sort of flyer or pamphlet trying to slander us, just like you tried to slander Victory and our friend Raybees in the last little fanzine that you had. Well, we are gonna give you one chance to apologize and straighten this out because we are somewhat, ya know, cool people. You don't know us... You think you know us... you've tried to slander us in this little pamphlet that you put out... All I can say is the other guys in the band don't even wanna talk this out... we don't wanna go to jail while we're in Columbia, but we'd just as soon go to your store and SMASH SHIT IN YOUR FACE AND BREAK EVERYTHING YOU OWN, which we WILL DO if we HAVE TO. I don't know how you handle things around here, but we don't let people go around and spread lies about us and just let them get away with it. Now I'm not saying you made these flyers or whatever, but I don't know who would... and you being the prominent member of the South Caroliona scene that you are, we figured that you are probably behind it. So if you'd like to straigten this matter out give us a call at Chris from STRETCH ARMSTRONG's house... and if you would not like to straigten this out then I hope you don't have any plans on touring, and THIS IS A THREAT, because we don't appreciate this, OK? Thanks.

This tape was dubbed off, had the VILLAGE PEOPLE's "macho man" mixed in behind it and was used as an opening tape for a number of IN/HUMANITY's shows.

So I called this guy at the place where they were staying and talked to him for an hour about what was on the flyer. At some point I eventually convinced him that I had absolutely nothing to do with the flyer and that it would not be a good idea to "smash shit in my face and break everything I own." He told me that the band's reaction was "survival"-based, as a flyer like that could damage their "career".

As the conversation went on, I almost felt sorry for him as he seemed to be a fairly articulate guy in a band full of orangutans who were pressing him to dish out some street-style justice. Of course I didn't feel too sorry for him, as he did admit to being a homophobe, and he did threaten to destroy my store which was my frigging livelihood, and all of his ridiculous overreacting was based upon a silly article that was in a crappy zine I had thrown together in a few hours and had printed no more than 60 copies of.

Later someone gave me an audio bootleg of HATEBREED's Columbia show which featured the all-time-classic between-song-banter: "fuck Chris Bickel, fuck IN/HUMANITY, and fuck SNIP fanzine!" (Crowd cheers)

All of this and the fact that I hate chugga-chugga metally Hardcore:

That's why I never bought the HATEBREED CD

Fuck these homophobes.

Anonymous (December 19, 2003)

ok. i've never posted on here...

seeing as this is the first review i've read on here and most likely the last one i'll read, i've come to the same conclusion as i have about the "hardcore/punk scene" in general. The kids who are jocking the shit out of this album really enjoy the tougher. angrier, straight-forward, basic hardcore sound... you know, typical fast verse... chorus.. fast verse... breakdown style stuff. while all the kids shitting on this release tend to enjoy more "artistic" hardcore bands... or just do not enojy hardcore in general.

this disgusts me.

there is a time and a place for everything in hardcore. From bands like Mental... who are just a joke and about having a good time, to bands like Black Cross... who are very politically, communitivly, and intellectually involved, to in your face beatdown bands like Earth Crisis... they ALL have a place somewhere so get over yourself. I personally wont comment on what i like in particular, because you have to take everything for what it is.

so finally, after a long worded hardcore mission statement i dont think anyone should have to be reminded of... here's my actual review:
(i am writing this like an actual magazine reviewer because... well i want to_

Hatebreed is back with their 3rd Major record-lable release entitled "the rise of Brutality", and if you thought the title was lacking, you were right... however, the album as a whole is not a total loss.

Hatebreed attempts to remain true to their hardcore roots and even pays homage to NYHC legends "Sick of it All" with and interesting track taking lyrics from SOIA's early release "Just Look Around". It is also apparent that HB pays their respect to NY hardcore in general with the 2nd track sounding very reminiscient of NY's own "Madball".

The production of the album as a whole is astounding. The vocals are powerful, the drums beat, and the guitars crunch much like their live performance. Then again there are a few chessy and overdone vocal background effects are present and noticable in the track entitled "Doomsayer".

Here's my gripe. Contrary to the general consensus, Jamey is an intelligent front man... and due to the time in between releases i feel he did not have apt time to write many lyrics that were as creative or clever as the bands breakout album "Satisfaction is the Death of Desire". It may also just have occured that due to their astounding success, irony may have set in... and now shows the lack of effort he will put into his own thought process. Much of the album is less inspirational and more like an instruction booklet, which bored me.

Basically, if you've had a bad day, week, month... this is the album you'd want to listen to... it will inspire many of the masses to go out and hit something. So, how does one review an albu of this sort? If the album is called "The Rise of Brutality" maybe turning it's fans into brutes was the initial goal. Ifso, my compliments... if not, i'll stike to "Satisfaction...", keep my ears open for a show, and anticipate a better release next time.

i still love hatebreed, but i long for their past and pray for their future.

mikeinflames (November 25, 2003)

Like you're actually JAmie from Hatebreed
Anyways ... this album was a bit of a disappointment ... but then again so was their last album
Actually the only good full length Hatebreed has put out was Satisfaction
Gotta love the fact that Jamie and the bassist are the only original members
But they'll keep making shitty albums and all the little kiddies will buy them because they are so fucking hardcore
Props to the guy who mentioned Sick Of It All ... now there's some real fucking hardcore
And you have to love the fact that Hatebreed completely ripped off an old SOIA tune
Must be nice to sell out

Anonymous (November 25, 2003)

Jamie hatebreed! singer for hatebrede here!!! i appreciate your kind workds, but plaese donot talk so pooorly about our last record!!! i like you, and will spair your sole, in despite of the fact that you doubt my credibilitie!

takecare jamiehatebreed- singer for hatebreed!!!!1

Anonymous (November 25, 2003)


mikeinflames (November 4, 2003)

This album was a step in the right direction for Hatebreed. It's a very good redemption album after last years piece of crap Perseverance. Although it's nowhere near as good as Satisfaction, but I don't think they'll ever be able to top that album. Hatebreed are a good band, and get used to them, cause you'll be hearing alot about them in the future. Whoever signed them to Universal was a smart smart man, because as long as Jamey stays angry at the world, they will keep selling records. Although I wish they would go back to Victory, because it is pretty obvious that the major label is trying to make them into the next big thing. There is no reason for a trash metal/hardcore whatever the hell you want to call it band to have songs that are longer than 3 minutes.
As for Jamey Hatebreed. You are obviously not Jamey from Hatebreed. If you want to defend a band, make sure what you're saying makes sense first.

Anonymous (November 4, 2003)

sick of it all - life on the ropes

Anonymous (November 3, 2003)

whatever you say about Hatebreed,

I think we can all agree that it was fun to sing along to "I will be heard" drunk with friends. Am I right?

Count it!

Oh and uh, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Black Flag, ummmm.....I'll just have to wait until some more people drop some band names so I can use them.

Anonymous (November 3, 2003)

hardcore is the dumbest shit ever. it's the same fucking this as metal. the lyrics have no meaning and they fool people by giving the impression that the lyrics are symbolic. go stare at the drag queen's crotch next time you go to an afi show, dipshits.

Anonymous (November 3, 2003)

I'm thinking of reviewing "Be A Man"... Should I guys?


funkisdead (November 3, 2003)

napalm death are definitely metal. definitely NOT hardcore.

i'd still rather listen to stuff from 1981. like government issue. or the teen idles. at least that stuff is honest.

captaincrackhead (November 3, 2003)

Obviously none of you dumb assholes now fucking awesome hardcord when you hear it, like this and Napalm Death. They may play with metaal bands alot, but their set makes up for it. Go see them when they play with Slayer.

dignin (November 3, 2003)

this shit sucks, go buy the new Macho Man cd. And everyone better lay off Janelle.

Anonymous (November 2, 2003)

if you think Hatebreed is cookie monster music, then you obviously have never heard of a genre called "death metal".

should look into it.

Anonymous (November 2, 2003)

Stop with the cookie monster music. We already have too much knuckle-dragging bullshit to dispose of.

Anonymous (November 2, 2003)

"the music of these pituary retards"

Did you mean pituitary? I don't get it.

Anonymous (November 1, 2003)

ive never heard these guys before. are they a racist band? the name hatebreed im not sure waht they are hating.

Anonymous (November 1, 2003)

Inspiring jacques metal.

Anonymous (November 1, 2003)

I put this record on when I'm sleepy. The soothing sounds just put me right out. This shit is for pussies! If you want the most brutal hardcore record ever made, you HAVE to get the new Raffi record. Made me vomit and then I fucking punched myself. Brutal.

Anonymous (November 1, 2003)

Hulkamaniacs...brilliant. It took me about five minutes to recover from that.

Jock-metal is the work of Satan. I see one more fat guy windmilling and rubbing himself against three other topless fat guys to the music of these pituary retards and I will climb a belltower and start firing rounds.

Anonymous (November 1, 2003)

Regardless of what all you cynical fucks think, Hatebreed rules and is one of the few true Old Skool NYHC bands. They have and always will keep it real. Oi Oi

Anonymous (November 1, 2003)



- Mr. T

Anonymous (November 1, 2003)

Danzig will fuck you up. That man is a fucking monster.

Anonymous (November 1, 2003)

Danzig's too short lol......he'd still beat the two younger guys though....doubt he'd beat rollins though lol...come on kids we must have better things to talk about lol!!!

Anonymous (October 31, 2003)

I'm fucking hardcore.

Anonymous (October 31, 2003)

no wait throw Keith Morris in there hahaha

Anonymous (October 31, 2003)

Danzig would rip 'em all apart...limb by bloody limb. Decapitation never seemed so sweet.

Greenvandal (October 31, 2003)


That comment is too funny. I cant sopt laughing at the whole damn thing.

sk8punx4evr (October 31, 2003)

haha connecticut.

Anonymous (October 31, 2003)

Throw Rollins in there and watch em both get killed.

Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

John Bloodclot would win.
John Bloodclot might be the only krishna guy that uses cocain.


Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

John Bloodclot vs Jamie Hatebreed...
Meatheadmania LXVI!!!

Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

Hatebreed brewtality!!!! allllright!!!!
i listen to this with my frat brothers!!! yeah! ooh yeah! sigma alpha beta representing the evil side in the -03!!!!!1

Anonymous (October 30, 2003)


Holy shit. This is fucking great.


Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

"I dont think any of those bands would count as metal or hardcore"
i think that was his point, dumb ass.

adam (October 30, 2003)


I can't comment on this record or band, but this comment made me laugh. Kudos.


LushJ (October 30, 2003)

This is pretty decent. I've got a soft spot for the more chest-thumpin' NYHC stuff, even when it's not from NYC. File this next to SLAPSHOT and BLOOD FOR BLOOD in terms of music intensity and style. Their lyrics aren't as kindergarten as those other 2 bands though.
Anyone expecting anything more from this band is fooling themselves.

Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

Dumbass of the day...please see below.

(Misfits, junior)

Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

I think they are named Hatebreed because people Hate them so much that they shouldnt breed.

Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

YEA! Post Number 99!!!!

Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

At the hole where he went in
(Run and hide thee, Nag.)
Hah! The hooded Death has missed!
Red-Eye called to Wrinkle-Skin.
Hear what little Red-Eye saith:
``Nag, come up and dance with death!''
Eye to eye and head to head,
(Keep the measure, Nag.)
This shall end when one is dead;
(At thy pleasure, Nag.)
Turn for turn and twist for twist-
(Woe betide thee, Nag!)

Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

what a lame, lame guy that Jamie is.


Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

I've read that Hatebreed and the thousands of pathetic clone bands that have been signing to majors recently will be marketed as "Urban Metal" for the Limp Bizkit crowd. How funny is that?

Oh, and for the record, I love talking shit about weak bands like this. Sorry I don't spell check my posts. I only allow myself 3 minutes or so to post a little nugget of hate about your favorite shitty band. here is some more fucking knowledge:

"self proclaimed punk king of the net
I hope carpal tunnel is all that you get
the monitors glow is your only light
beat your meat to your own website
chatroom junkie, social flunkie
rule the scene from inside your room
you're safe inside your cyberwomb
never been to a hardcore show
got a zillion megabytes but nowhere to go"

-Eat A Dick and lots of love, Ken

dignin (October 30, 2003)

God, i want to donkey punch janelle!

Anonymous (October 30, 2003)

I was at cro-mags reunion show (John Bloodclot was the only original member). There were a lot of nazi's there (Besides trad skins and sharp's). Funny thing too, because 2 band mamebers for reunion were black, one was asian, and two where white. And nazi's danced and sang along.
stupid nazis....


P.S. I said it before, stick to Raised Fist

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

"Christ kids, just get Toxic Narcotic."

(saw 'em last night - they proved it once again).

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

"they're skinheads, they're racist, they suck"

they arn't any of those.

BSD (October 29, 2003)

Christ kids, just get Toxic Narcotic.

Greenvandal (October 29, 2003)


Wow. I like the fake Jamie way better.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

I dont think any of those bands would count as metal or hardcore

funkisdead (October 29, 2003)

so in sum, i've made a PSAT-level analogy for the fans of this band...

hatebreed : hardcore :: ill nino : metal

or, for those of you who say they are a metal band...

hatebreed : metal :: the hoods : hardcore.

thank you, i'll be here all week.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

terrible, terrible band.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

""oh wow "jamie" posted on here! bro, next time your going to pretend to be a dude in the band and sound like a retard, at least spell his name right. ""




Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

"Hatebreed is often imitated, as they are one of the originators of this wave of hardcore"


They came on the dying end of Victory-style eastcoast toughguy hc. nothing original about them.

skajester (October 29, 2003)

Never said I hated Slayer.

Just long-haired idiotic metal types who use the word "dude" far too much for their own good.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

ok you people need to realize that hardcore is a very general term and it encompasses a LOT of different music. theres hardcore punk, crust punk, metalcore, screamo, emocore, melodic hardcore...etc. yes hatebreed falls under the genre hardcore as does every time i die, saetia, and world burns to death.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

Album of the year.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

To the moron below....

Slayer rips, and if you can't appreciate that, well, nevermind....it ain't worth it.


Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

So I'm the only one who clicked on this and immediately said,

"Scott reviewed Hatebreed?"

In any case, I'm not qualified to say whether or not this is hardcore. But I never considered the 'screamo' bands to be hardcore. Since everyone's name-dropping I just thought I'd say that the only bands I listen to that I could consider such a genre is Every Time I Die, The Bled, Give Up the Ghost, Scraps and Heart Attacks, and the Backup Plan. Granted I just started to listening to them all this year.


skajester (October 29, 2003)

Seen 'em live twice. Own both of their previous records. That being said, I'd like to share a little story about the guy who came into work to buy this last night:

"Dude, I am so looking forward to this record... do you guys have a metal/hard rock section?"

"Um. No. It's all in with the 'rock'."

"That sucks... you guys only have, like two Slayer cds. What the fuck's up with that?!"

"I have no clue."

"You need to get more metal, dude."

This is why I'm embarassed to own a Hatebreed cd.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

dont like them, but they can definitely kick your ass

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)


Oh my saw them live 2x - scariness...

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

what lyrics, he just growls gibberish

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

the cds not bad.....Ramnstien's better

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

oh wow "jamie" posted on here! bro, next time your going to pretend to be a dude in the band and sound like a retard, at least spell his name right.


"this isnt hardcore....this is pussycore. Macho insecurity to the max with overcompensating wannabe tough guys yelling like cookie monsters over shitty, tired music. Plus the guys in the band look like pussys anyway, how can u take them seriously?"

have you ever actually took the time to listen to hatebreed lyrics? or do you just assume that if its chugga chugga hardcore with low end vocals then they must obviously be singing about how tough they are?

id reccomend going to hardcorelyrics.com or something and reading up before making such an accusation. yes hatebreed has incredibly angry lyrics, but the lyrics are hardly macho or any of that tuff guy bullshit. if anything hatebreeds lyrics are what really struck me. when i was first discovering madball, blood for blood, skarhead etc etc in the late 90s victory era i was impressed by hatebreeds ability to express anger without coming off as a bunch of meatheads.

try going back and listening again.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

If this is what your considering for record of the year, I'd like to introduce you to these things called "books".

I hope From Autumn to Ashes tours with Hatebreed and their bus explodes. Then the Dillinger Escape Plan should come and shit on their remains. Two shitty, shitty bands that have helped ruin hardcore killed at once. That'd be a great day for music.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

This is what metal/hardcore should be. In a day and age when bands like From Autumn To Ashes are considered "heavy music" it is refreshing to hear Hatebreed's latest effort.

A solid punch in the face from start to end.

Record of the year? Maybe

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

This record is great. Its exactly what I want from this band, straight forward lyrics, angry vocals, heavy guitars, solid drumming, fast, direct and punishing songs. Thats why Hatebreed rules.

Then again, I don't care for bands like Murder By Death, Strike Anywhere, Against Me, Rufio or From Autumn to Ashes, like the rest of you teenie boppers fall head over heels for.

So, fire away.

joeg (October 29, 2003)

"they're skinheads, they're racist, they suck"

and while we're throwing wild accusations around, let's also include agnostic front, slayer, sick of it all(i saw a nazi at their show once), and the cro-mags as racist skinhead bands. while i'm no big hatebreed fan by any means, i do know they're the last thing from being a racist skinhead band or whatever.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

"**name-drops random band name to sound cool**

Fuck off asshole. Just cos I mentioned a show I wanted to go to I'm name-dropping bands? AND UK SUBS WERE AWESOME LAST NIGHT.

You make me sick.

Greenvandal (October 29, 2003)

Well, my opinion of hatebrred has been, and always will be, that they fucking suck. This all just registers as some guy trying to show you how big his dick is in audio form to me.

And the last thing I like to see is a guy named "Jamie"s dick.

It takes more to bringin the mosh then chugging, banging, and talking about how tough you are.

Lunk (October 29, 2003)

how was that random? same genre, just a fuckload better. cool or not it's the truth. fuck you.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

This review has some of the best comments ever. Gold!


Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

Hatebreed are a classic hardcore band

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

**name-drops random band name to sound cool**

Lunk (October 29, 2003)

feh. i'll stick to raised fist.

Anonymous (October 29, 2003)

Hatebreed can lick my almighty nut sack. One of the last dinosaurs from that horrid musical wasteland known as the mid/late-90's Victory roster. Rot in pieces...


Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

Black Flag was hardcore, Minor Threat was hardcore, the Bad Brains were hardcore.....this shit is cookie monster metal....nothing more....its crap.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

"they're skinheads, they're racist, they suck"

not even close buddy

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

this record maintains the same boring fucking tone for a sustainted 40 minutes....its fucking terrible

-pat money

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

Sorry, but this is hardcore. Not hardcore punk. Not this sissy "hardcore" like Thrice and Thursday. There is no singing on this album. No "interlocking melodies" or any of that crap. Just intensity. I congratulate Hatebreed on not making emo hardcore and all that crap.

I am the Doomsayer...*pause*...motherfucker.

no, this is not hardcore, because hardcore refers to hardcore punk, or hardcore rap, or hardcore something, not hardcore playing one note repetitively and hardcore growling

hatebreed is great...for me to poop on

we've run out of patience, you've run out of time this scene will not fall victim to your violence or lies your "values" are nothing but excuses to start fights quit fronting like you're standing for a moral cause tonight united as one we won't stand aside you try to fuck with our scene we're gonna fuck your life!

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

Where's the funk? Where's the groove? The Inventors of hardcore (Bad Brains) knew that hardcore is nothing without it...and these guys have none of it.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)


ROFL. Someone needs to brush up on their english skills. I can't stop thinking of the Hatebreed guys running over hardcore kids in a reindeer drawn sleigh.

For the record, Hatebreed blows.


Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

this isnt hardcore....this is pussycore. Macho insecurity to the max with overcompensating wannabe tough guys yelling like cookie monsters over shitty, tired music. Plus the guys in the band look like pussys anyway, how can u take them seriously?

FortyMinutesWest (October 28, 2003)

This is watered down metal, not hardcore.

zGRAVYzHAVOKz (October 28, 2003)

"is that really just one band? what a long name."

I laughed rather hard at that comment. Thank you, you are a fucking genius.

love always, mark.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)








ppps: here is some new lyrics from our new album!!! we;re belting the tracks out!
my lifestyle determines my deathstyle. i work with turnstyles and lack style. blue fifty two i am a jock, unlike you.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

Get any Raised Fist album instead...


MrOhio (October 28, 2003)

Sorry, but this is hardcore. Not hardcore punk. Not this sissy "hardcore" like Thrice and Thursday. There is no singing on this album. No "interlocking melodies" or any of that crap. Just intensity. I congratulate Hatebreed on not making emo hardcore and all that crap.

I am the Doomsayer...*pause*...motherfucker.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

is that really just one band? what a long name.

oh my, how jaded we have become.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

Firstly this is not Hardcore. this is shit metal. Add some stupid rap parts and this is limp bizkit. For anyone who thinks this band is hardcore, they are mistaken and need to check out the following band instead.
World Burns to Death
Severe d Head of State
Forca Macabra

Any of the above bands would make HateBreed and all the rest of the Chugga-filth-Retard-Core Vomit bands piss their fucking pants.

"Stop Homey-Core before it Stops you!"


funkisdead (October 28, 2003)

just because music is aggressive and makes you want to mosh doesn't mean it needs to sound like wrestling theme songs.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

"said it once, I'll say it again. This is just shit... You want good hardcore, go get GBH, Discharge, or Chaos UK CDs or whatever... Just not this metalhead junk."

i think youre getting hardcore confused with crust punk.

i seriously dont get all the jock comments either. hardcore has always been aggressive and pissed off. go back and look at agnostic front, cro mags, soia, etc. etc....all of these bands were angry as hell.

i'm sorry to everyone who thinks that hardcore is pop punk bands with shaggy hair and diesels who add a little screaming to your songs about having their hearts broken, because youre quite mistaken.

hardcore is supposed to be angry. if hatebreed want to play aggressive music that kids can mosh, sing along and fingerpoint to i for one dont see how that makes them jocks.

by that reasoning until the end, the promise, throwdown, walls of jericho and every other band that plays this style of hardcore must be football loving douchebags who wanted to beat your ass.

i'm sure had hatebreed stayed on victory, not done ozzfest and still played vfw halls you'd all have a very different opinion on them.

501 (October 28, 2003)

I always thought Davey Havok was a dumb name.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

man, Jamie Hatebreed is such a fucking stupid name.

note to kids starting bands: do not take the name of your band as your last name.

i would like to start a band called The Fucks Boys," and then call myself Carlos Fucks Boys in my CD liner notes..

then i can cover antifreeze songs, sample the drumbeats from old swing records. everytime antifreeze say "love" or "alone" i will say "shit" and "cunt." the record i make will still be better than this shit.

both will be hilarious, but the music on mine will be better. i guarrrrannnnteee.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

I hate this band. I hate everyone who likes this band. This is the kind of hardcore the wrestling team used to listen to in High School so they could get ready to beat people up.

Anybody mind telling me when it became ok for jocks to make hardcore?

kevtv (October 28, 2003)

i havent heard the cd yet, saw the vid, not a bad song, nothing gorundbreaking. in other words, seems like standard hatebreed.

the 49 fingers and 5 assholes joke would be good if you reconfigured your math to account for them being a 4-piece band now.

jamie hatebreed only has one thunb, which always makes me wonder how he holds things with the hand (i know, he probablly doesn't). go ahead, try to hold something without your thumb. opposable digits are quite useful.

another one i heard was hatebeed has 3 chrods and 39 fingers.


Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

"What has 49 fingers and five assholes?


who's missing a finger?

anyways, refering to these guys as "generic" is kind of meaningless considering you've given good scores to rufio and midtown.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

EDDIE !!!!!


seriously, you listened to blink and new found glory 3 months ago but now you're really cool and like radiohead..



BSD (October 28, 2003)

"Even with my complaint, I would still recommend this to anyone I know that listens to real hardcore. It's a defining album for the band and their fans alike."

I said it once, I'll say it again. This is just shit... You want good hardcore, go get GBH, Discharge, or Chaos UK CDs or whatever... Just not this metalhead junk.

Eddie (October 28, 2003)


Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

"Oh and the new All Out War blows this record out of the water."

CONDEMNED TO SUFFER is damn good, isn't it?! Like it muchly.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

Goddamn nazis.... and mongowians.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

im listening to doomsayer right now and bro, this is shit

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

wow shit "this brings the mosh". haha. this band is so mediocre. sweet lyrics tough guy

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

(let's face it, comments about blaming jockcore to be ska is the funniest thing ever besides the jimmes, do the bartman, you like guttermouth and wuss emo rock being a cockass references.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

i used to love hatebreed, but my love for them dropped instantly when they went ska on me.

skankin_in_the_pit (October 28, 2003)

This is a pretty damn good record. It's better then their last one, but is no SITDOD. They won't challenge you, and their not the most intellectual band ever, but they are good listen. They trashed far to much.

Oh and the new All Out War blows this record out of the water.

aubin (October 28, 2003)

tbones: Maybe he's just afraid of Hatebreed fans. I know I am, even though I will fully admit that their brand of tough guy jockcore does absolutely nothing for me.

recordings (October 28, 2003)

this record is exponentially better than perseverace. much more diverse in lyrical structures.

i really wish some of you *hardcore kids* with fashion haircuts and girls jeans could learn to appreciate this stuff.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

they're skinheads, they're racist, they suck

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)


This isn't a criticism but I don't understand that after finding no positives with the music do you find it necessary to say "with all that said... this record is definitive and a must for fans" Seems like a bit of a cop out, wouldn't you say? if you don't like something...be confident in that. As difficult as it may seem, you shouldn't hide behind trying to please everyone who comes to your site/publicists that send you things.
just a thought

TheOneTrueBill (October 28, 2003)


Ha. That term used to mean something. unfortunatly it was before I was born

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

Oh, I should have gone to Six Feet Under/Skinless/All Out War last night...oh well UK SUBS tonight!

annonymous (October 28, 2003)

"These guys are heavy, but they're no Yellowcard."

Dude that was classic... I love you

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

I like hardcore but this shit is so cheesy. It's actually pretty funny to listen to because it's so ridiculous.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

i think this is the weakest of their attempts, they still rip shit up... but i didn't feel it on this one..;. they're still awesome tho

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

These guys are heavy, but they're no Yellowcard.

casualty (October 28, 2003)

what the hell is wrong with you people?! ugh...i'd say this is definetly better than their last effort and i defy you to find a bigger audio-kick-in-the-ass. this is so heavy and just plain brutal, though a little diversity would help.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

forgot to rate it, i'm the suck suck suck guy

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

suck suck suck

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

You know, I agreed with most of you a while back, but after seeing Hatebreed live, I really changed my opinion.

(Scott, wanna trade?)

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

Fucking sucks?

I think so.


Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

this guy will be heard.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

fuck the haters, this band owns.

cubaricho (October 28, 2003)

What has 49 fingers and five assholes?


Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

Hatebreed are fucking great and if this album doesn't make you want to get up and fuck shit up, then you have no concept of good music. That is FACT, not opinion.

Why don't you idiots try listening to one of those mp3s up there before jumping on the band wagon?

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

The first album is more hardcore than metal. The second is metal, metal and a little hardcore. I didn't hear this album yet, but i think it'll sound like a "i'm more metal than you"

you all suck!!!

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

this is a fuckin good hatebreed album. Fuckin nice and hard

FortyMinutesWest (October 28, 2003)


Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

These guys are hardcore.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

this is the new limp bizkit.

i wish people would stop calling them hardcore.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

LAME sums these guys up!

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

I like em.

(steakhead extraordinaire)

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

this band is terrible. this review was bland. and i dont understand how i received an email about this album and hatebreed's stupid tour dates.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

this band is really mediocre and boring.

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

god i hate this band...

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