who wrote this review? its trash

WOW ! Dumbest comments in Punknews history ...

I think the review is 100% spot on.... I imagine a lot of these posters would agree nowadays, hopefully they've matured musically and don't think this is the masterpeice some of the posters are making it out to be.

i cant understand that anyone gives a shit about this band still. Blink 182 is a band that you like when you're in your early teen years. Anyone who likes blink 182 and who is over 15 years old is a mystery for me

score is for every blink review on this site

by the way, you stink something fierce. go eat out an old woman, you d bag idiot cock blowing old lady shoving titty hatting pile of used bloody douche.

idiotic review. you're an idiot, idiot.

I enjoyed this album..
I'm glad they broke up though..
Plus 44 sounds like it's gonna be good...
Fuck Angels and Airwaves..

It`s an amazing album. I KNOW The Cure`s Robert Smith wouldn`t have been on this album if it wasn`t solid stuff!
It`s dark, experimental, mature and perfectly detailed!
3 thumbs up to Tom, Mark and Travis!

Dis album rox!
id recomend it 2 u if u avent got it!
ma fav song is i miss u nd wots my age again #
woooohhooo blink 182 rok XxXx

Dis album rox!
id recomend it 2 u if u avent got it!
ma fav song is i miss u nd wots my age again #
woooohhooo blink 182 rok XxXx

this is an awesome album!! i love blink 182.

yeah you only think that they write about girls and stuff but i bet that the shit that you listen to is all about drugs and fuckn!! get a life and stop making fun of bands because that's all you have to do with your life!

I personally think that any cd that they come out with is the greatest!!!! Blink 182 is the greatest band out there!

im not seyin this is sucha great album but they chose to change there sound by themselves. mark or tom(not sure which one) posted on punknews that they decided to do it themselves and becuase bad astronaut inspired to expirement.

Um whoever wrote this is gay!!! very gay!!!

like the music if its good dont say its crap cuz all they write is about girls and stuff now!
listen to blink cuz they have good tunes and melodies or just dont listen to them then u wont have to complain!!
waaawaaawaaaa... Go have a cry fag

and all those posers out there u guys suck!

This reviewer must have been listening to the album on his laptop while doing his laundry. He obviously wasn't paying very close attention.

-Lev007

Correction dick face, he's not singing about an argument with his mother. He's singing about when his mother was beat by his father, and how he would never wanna be like that. Read the fuckin lyrics next time you wanna dis something.

I love how in the pop world, "maturing" means going from writing happy love songs to writing sad love songs. Blink-182 fucking suck.

Ok I admit it I bought this album for Marks sick bass lines and Travis's sick druming. Wow, what I got wer great songs that not only Pre-Puberty girls and gay boys can like. (lol who ever wrote that comment is like 10 and had to have his big brother type this for him,
what a loser) Ok so they have grown up a bit and the rest of the 9-10 year olds are to dumb and ignorent to listen to any thing but the curses and they arent to happy about only 7 curses ( you are a moronic monkey slipnot/limpbiscut fan if you think so). This album is very catchy and can be for anyone. Its a guilty pleasure for me.

you people are dumb i wrote the review below and by reading some of the shit you guys wrote. Blinks freakin awesome and this record took a darker side cuase thats what they have come up with not that they matured there music did. The video Feeling This points that out god. Dude Ranch was a very great album and then they came out with enima of the state and it got big it is a great album and now they want to try to go in a different pace.

BEST BAND EVER! anyone who talks bad on Blink wow. They kick big balls. I have LOVED them seince Cheshire Cat so yah.

This one was for those middle school kids who obsess over someone they will never even talk to. It's funny how the ugliest people listen to blink.

If not for pre-pubscent girls and some gay guys this album woulda flopped.

I refer to "Fun things To Fuck(If You're A Winner)" by NOFX.

"Fuck a muslim/Fuck a jew/ Fuck fans of Blink-182/ That's illegal if you were born in '83"

Oh, so nobody is allowed to think Blink's new album sucks, I see................................................IT SUCKS!

Oooh, this CD sucks, yea they matured, but the lyrical content is horrendous, every single song line is about girls, at least add some songs about poop and people's mothers, like they used to. I agree, right outta MTV's offices for sure. But yeah, the CD has sold like a billion copies, I bet if you could track down all the people who bought it, they would be all under-16 years old, morbidly obese, sweaty girls.

Ok faggots you can stop bitching about how bad blink 182 sucks in the end you just wasted a crap load of time writing it, so fuck off blink 182 is awesome

Blink 182 Haters go fuck yourself up the ass you shit heads

Alright, first of all...teens and pre-pubescents don't even listen to Blink anymore. It's not "cool enough". They're all into the hardcore stupid crap like Atreyu and Poison the Well and all that sh!t. More and more people are getting back into Blink because they're realizing that this band actually has talent and potential, and they're not just a fad. No one likes Blink anymore. The people that do are stronger for it. Blink really has matured with this album, and while I don't know if that's a good thing, the cd certainly has it's charm. Travis is as strong as ever, and Mark and Tom do an excellent job of conveying real emotion and not just lyrics written to make money. There was nothing wrong with Enema, nor was there anything wrong with Take Off Your Pants And Jacket. In fact, I prefer those two albums to this one. And as for Boxcar Racer, you have to admit, they had some pretty damn good songs. While the album wasn't as consistent as it should have been, songs like "Letters To God", "Tiny Voices", and "There Is" were some of the most mature songs Tom has ever written. Anyway, I'm done, but I have one more thing to say. Travis Barker a.k.a. Baron Von Tito, is a GOD.

This reviewer sucks cocks for money. How can u write such a shitty review about a band who have obviously matured and made a great sounding album, experimenting with previous sounds. I am not the biggest blink fan in the world but this album has opened up new doors for them and if it was all about getting on TRL surely they would have used their older sounds that everyone liked? Blink weren't even sure if their fans would like their newest effort.

somebody down there claimed the ramones were shitty, even though they were "first". it's kinda dumb that we're still having the "who's first" argument here. i don't mind the ramones, they're not too bad, and even though I'm an American and we're supposed to be all about the Ramones when it comes to punk rock, there's just way too much evidence that the sex pistols played before the ramones... i think the ramones are a better band, but they didn't really have that punk feel to their songs. they weren't rebelling anything. they had 5 songs that they repeated over 97 albums... the sex pistols made one shitty album and some weird bootleg albums and called it quits.. the fact is that punk wasn't really started by either of these bands. the need to break from of societal restraints has been an ever increasing movement for a long long time... and its geting more and more so. its a continuous process. i wouldn't give credit to anyone person or band.

like i said in the other blink review, the only one worth shit in this band is travis

this review isn't very good. it's like you're just taking the opportunity to climb on your soapbox and bash the band, without addressing the album itself but 1 or 2 times.

Fuck yeah, they suck, but write a better review, please.

inagreendase has no penis

-SV

On the topic of drummers, travis barker isn't great. Hes good enough for the shit Blink makes and he did cool stuff with the Aquabats, but hes just fair. I would say Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, just because his style was so damn awesome. The measure and a quarter fils and crazy toms, good times. Listen to "Who are you?" and you'll see what i mean. And yes I play drums, have for 6 years. C'est tous les gens! The Burrito Bandito

""Blink fans are idiots. "

You people who generalize are all the same."

Oh fuck off, asswhipe.

It was actually just an Atom and His Package reference, not really directed towards you. But I enjoy being part of the one fell swoop of users banned from the site according to you. Thanks for the consideration!

booooooooooooo boooooooooooo boooooooooo
what the hell is that? a boy badish poppy excuse. when i herd it i thougt it was o-town.,

they suck even more now than ever buddha dude ranch and chersire cat wern't bad enima meh the show wasn't good jacketoff shit now horrid gay new look gay new sound u fuckers ahahahhaha

reviewer doesn't understand lyrics that are deeper than masturbation

Damn... You counted? LAME
This CD is awesome Ok...
Anything blink makes is, and who wrote this review... some headbanger canable corpse lover i wanna kill my sister? fuck you ass hole this CD rocks It's just a mature side of blink... The score is for the Album

-_-Tone-_-

You aren't a punk, you aren't a rocker. Fuck off, cunt.

-BSD

Oh yeah, that comment was made by BPunkRocker (Me, Brandon Murray) in case you (The jerk off that wrote this God aweful review) were wandering who said that ;)

mbfklnhodznbofcnuiodzrn

-GreenVandal

Ummm....You must not have much of a life and if it is it must be pretty boring for you to be able to sit and count how many times Mark says "Down" in that song.....Later bud.

I don't care, BSD is a flamer

i dont care what anyone says its a great cd...blink 182 is the shit

its better than an aztec funeral... then he'd dress up in your skin and sacrifice animals and stuff... and what music would you have then??? nothing cool.

Sounds good to me. Saxon it is!

BSD is kind of like a cancer. He sucks at first, but then he starts to grow on you.

And then he kills you and you get a viking funeral.

this review totally sux, it sux, and you can even say that blink sux but you are retarded

great review. oi, dickheads who pay out this review: for your information and fyi - we need to talk.
-lunk

This score is for BSD.

BSD sucks

sorry greenvandal. you will be burned as saxon's "denim and leather" blares mercilessly in the background.

Terrible, biased review.

ooh and that last comment goes for the Ramones as well...!
-J
sorry i was transfixed with UK punk.

Hey bad feelings aside, that was very poignant Vandal - and I agree totally about how it's insane that on Punknews bashing the early UK punk greats is the norm. These guys were pioneers, trailblazers...bands that made some awesome, revolutionary music...I just don't understand.
-Janelle

But I already killed you!!! I'll be a good sport and take it, but hey, I already killed you.

-BSD

This discussion is fucking stupid. I didnt know the new way of earning punk points was to dance about proclaiming how much you hate the sex pisols cuz they were a boy band. Or the clash cuz they were rockstars. How incredibly brilliant of you to see the cracks in the foundation of punk that us naive posers are to narrom eyed to see.

FUCK YOU YOU TREND HOPPING ASSHOLES.

I dont know NEARLY enough about this subject to even begin to argue. but the Clash and the Pistols fucking ment something in more ways then most people will ever realize. And some dick on the internet will never change that, no matter how many papers he writes on it.

All I know is, without the Ramones I wouldnt have Green Day, and thats a world I wouldnt want to live in.

BSD...*sniff* im touched by the fact that im your rival... ::stabs BSD in head!::

and dont pull any of that lame ass "i blocked it" shit. Your bleeding form the head, and you fucking liking it. now where is my macho man song? I wanna get to burning already.

was Travis Barker in The Suicide Machines early on? I just read that at drummerworld.com

I've heard worse, I've heard better. I dunno, personally I think this is better than their past two records. I'd still rather listen to the BBQ Chickens though.

- Hayato

i hope he wasn't talking about MY all lame...

"i just sent 2 hours reading all your stupid comments and the music is not the problem its you people... fuck your all lame."

Wait, who's lame?

This is no classic that's for sure! no longevity with this album, like boxcar racer after a week it's thrown to the side and forgotten!!! DOWNLOAD DON'T BUY!!

Reading through this is hilarious.

At the end of the day, it's just music. Enjoy it or dislike it, and leave it that. Who really cares.

i wanna fuck a dog in the ass, wanna fuck a dog in the ass, wanna fuck a dog in the ass, wanna fuck a dog. and i tried to fuck you mom in teh ass, tried top fuck your mom in the ass, tried to fuck your mom. it would be nice to have a blow job, it would nice to have a blkow job, it would be n ice to have a blow job from your mom. shit piss cock fart cunt pussy mnotherfucker dick dirty twat. when i fucked grandpa.

i just sent 2 hours reading all your stupid comments and the music is not the problem its you people... fuck your all lame.

best songs: i miss you, violence, Stockholm Syndrome, down, always, i'm lost without you.

What a bunch of bickering little cock smokers

"the cows are going mad!!!"

this score is for the snfu reference.

nice try. lame.

Let's just ban everyone who has a different opinion than everyone who thinks they're right. I know it'll hurt their feelings to be left out from this exclusive online forum.

this score is for bse.

the cows are going mad!!!

YES! This score is for BSD.

No! funkisdead doesn't mean it! He's not on my list!

-BSD

this is too funny...
-Janelle

ban that funkisdead asshole too.

Me

Who gives a shit who you don't like?

And that "twat" kid. Fuck him. Thanks.

-BSD

Boba Fet should be banned because he's an idiot. Thats all. Thanks.

-BSD

Sickboi, you'd expect me to put you on the ban list, but I really am getting with the thanksgiving spirit. Thanks for giving me someone to laugh at! FortyMinutesWest... you're not all bad, you just have a terrible taste in music. Fathead... Well, I don't think you're here anymore, but you kinda sucked. I mean, you worked at Fat Wreck! Aubin... Hmmm. Don't mind you! Superdude, you rock. I am definitely thankful for you. ilikebandssuchasopivy, you are kinda dumb. Oh well, you deserve to be banned, but I'm feeling nice this evening. Anyone with a ska or Less Than Jake/Catch 22 reference or phrase in their name is automatically on my ban list. Please block all of those people. Thanks.

-BSD

i respect these guys for trying to evolve, but they just don't have the talent to be the band i can hear them trying to be. it just sounds like a more thought out box car racer. as a drummer myself, i can be entertained just listening to travis' drumming, but thats not really enough ya know.mark and tom are average at their instruments and lyric writing. their strong suit was humor and catchy pop song writing, but if they kept w/ that it mightve been even more watered down. so basically, they sh ould just break up. their millionairs and family men now, stay at home guys. good try though. sounds like mark didnt write much of anything for this album anyway except "go" which has a nice alkaline trio outro. "obvious" is "all system go" from box car.

best songs "violence" "feeling this" (haha yes i do) "always" and i guess "i miss you". "stolkhom syndrome" was a nice try. the rest of the album is either boring crap or box car outtakes. robert smith song is not good, whatever its called. i'll go listen to the cure instead.

"Actually I have read books and whatnot
I actually wrote an undregrad thesis on the development of punk rock culture
So I have a bit of a clue about what I'm talking about
And major labels used the Sex Pistols to sell "punk" to kids in the suburbs
Just as they used groups such as NWA and Public Enemy to sell hip-hop to suburbanites in the late 80s and early 90s"

But if that was the point, why did they take the Pistols' single off the top of the charts? If the Sex Pistols were guilty of that, then the Clash were more so... And what about every other punk band? Indies either had horrible distro or were part of majors back then... The point of most bands used to be to spread your music, not to keep every good band in the underground "scene" like today... And the band had been around since 1975. Just quit trying to argue and shut up with your idiotic modern comparisons to NWA and Public Enemy.

-BSD

"I actually wrote an undregrad thesis on the development of punk rock culture"

Wow mine's on Marx and Engels' critism of the 19th century French Utopian Socialists, yet how M & E's proposals and written works - their blueprints for a communist society, if you will - are, in fact, quite idealistic in their own right although they claimed their ideas to be purely "scientific" and realistic.
-Janelle
(trying to change the subject as a means to cool off this heated debate below...)

wow... bsd just fucked shit up.

Actually I have read books and whatnot
I actually wrote an undregrad thesis on the development of punk rock culture
So I have a bit of a clue about what I'm talking about
And major labels used the Sex Pistols to sell "punk" to kids in the suburbs
Just as they used groups such as NWA and Public Enemy to sell hip-hop to suburbanites in the late 80s and early 90s

Don't put Vandal on there because I need a rival. Thanks.

-BSD

In hindsight, I regret putting Maverick on there. He's not that bad, just kind of sad. Put the King of Rain on there for saying "If you don't think bands like The Clash and Sex Pistols weren't mainstream in the UK you're a fucking retard." What an idiot.

-BSD

Oh yeah and Minor Threat. F that kid.

-BSD

I like how Mikeinflames' idea of an insult is that someone is mentally retarted... Someone needs to ban him, Cobra, Eddie, ThriceequalsGod, BloodBrothersAreGood, inagreendase and aw fuck I ferget. Maverick too. Fuck that Cursive loving fuck.

-BSD

Haha. Like I've listened to this trash. And, yeah, if you don't like Blink, you must be a "hardcore punk". Funny, funny.

-BSD

If you punk rockers have such damn good music tastes then why the fuck are you listening to Blink? If you think they're such pop-punk trash then why are you hardcore punkers listening to them? That's what I want to know.

"To add to the comment about The Sex Pistols ... people wake the fuck up
The Sex Pistols were the boy band on the 70s
Record companies used them to sell "punk" to suburban kids
They were complete sell-outs and the only "revolution" the started was the one in which major labels take indie bands and use them to make a quick buck"

Mikeinflames, you're an idiot. Fuck off, read a book, or even a web page. Idiots will be idiots, and posers will be posers, and you've proven how many of them are both.

-BSD

Really though. Why do you people have to bash on us? If we wanna like Blink then we can. I am somewhat dissapointed in their new CD though. But still... why do you big ass puck rockers go put more gel in your hair, and go mosh at a Good Charlotte concert instead of whining and complaining on here just like you said Mark did.

To add to the comment about The Sex Pistols ... people wake the fuck up
The Sex Pistols were the boy band on the 70s
Record companies used them to sell "punk" to suburban kids
They were complete sell-outs and the only "revolution" the started was the one in which major labels take indie bands and use them to make a quick buck

Hehehe,
True words my friend.

For the most part, you are all a bunch of stupid little bitches whining about the silliest little things imaginable.

Get your hand off your dick, put your little pecker back into your pants, get the fuck off your computer, and kill yourself.

To My Buddy rightcliqificus :
About the whole John Lennon thing I explained a couple of messaged later what I met with that. So no need to explain that to you.

And about the whole money thing, you wrote about ten sentences and lots of big words, but it all comes down to same shit. What's really uour point? What do you care if they sell crappy music? Just as long as you don't pay for it. If a 4 year old wants to pay 20 Bucks for the CD, then so be it. Good for Blink. Too bad for us. But that's the way of life, there are some people lucky enough to earn tons of money for making music or selling image as you would say and there are people who would spend some hours checking out website and posting messages in Forum, like you and me!
The part that really upsets me is that you people start bashing the band and their fans for nothing at all. If you don't like the band, fine. No problem I wouldn't judge you cause everyone has their taste. But not you "hard-core" guys, you guys must bash at evryone that loves blink. I'm a blink fan, I admit it. But I listen to lots of other bands too, and must say blink isn't nearly as talented as the other bands.

And you claim that I am the 4 year old huh? Well I'm not the one getting all upset because some band makes millions by selling their music.You just sound like a baby,"Blink makes millions, they suck." I mean come on, be real man. You can't just post a normal post. And when people start bashing at you for posting non sense, you get all upset. "Everybody's wrong sometimes", that's what you wrote. But apparently you're not doing it yourself. You guys keep telling everyone Punk is Dead. No, punk is not dead yet! But with the stupid comments and stupid mentallity that you guys have you will kill Punk for sure. And you're a musician yourself, so that's what makes it more sad. You're wrecking your own music scene.Change man, it's time for a change. Find a way to address people in a better way and respect each others opinions.

Oh yeah about my parents. They have raised me pretty well. And I will also raise my children, the way I was raised, to respect other peoples opinion. And I do have a good understanding of the world and that's why I have pitty for folks like yourself, who don't have respect for each other and just try to ruin the world for other persons. It's just a shame. I hope you really get the point I'm trying to make. You sound like a very nice guy, if you could just change the way you think and stop talking non sense.
Also I would love to hear about your band, do you have a link where I can check your band out?

Take Care,
Life is good, start living it and stop bitching.

Except AC/DC had idiotic lyrics and boring music. Thats the only difference.

-BSD

true.
in a raping context, however, the ramones would most definitely triumph.

Fuck AC/DC? Nah, those guys are fucking balls to the walls. No shit, I mean, dying from alcohol poisoning? Jesus fucking christ. Those guys are similar to the Ramones in A LOT of ways, simplified music with attitude, and almost no image whatsoever. (less Angus Young's schoolboy outfits.)

-sickboi

Why do people constantly rip on other people for liking a band? If I said I like Al-Queada would you guys rip on me too? Fuck all you haters.

"sex pistols are a boy band kinda like n'sync only with saftey pins and spiked hair"

Ugh! You make me sick. They fuckin brought about a revolution - the last true cultural youth movement - in the UK you wanker. But dense minds are hard to change - you and your brethren are relegated to live in ignorance forever...no one can help you.
-Janelle

"a guitar player in punk band X is not a musician,"

X had a guitarist who was a fucking genius! Or, rather an old rockabilly guy. GREAT BAND. Also great example of how skilled art punk bands used to be. You know, before they all wanted to be PiL/Joy Division/Gang of Four.

-BSD

Anyone who actually likes this crap must be wearing a helmet and riding the short bus to school

I just say "fuck rap" because its so trendy now for white kids to act like their freedom fighters with Public Enemy records...

-BSD

BSD- We disagree plenty of the time. But we share common ground when it comes to (well-deserved) worship of the Ramones.

your "fuck ____" post was cool, and I hate AC/DC a lot.

But I think that by saying "fuck old school and new school rap," you have done a great disservice to the almighty...

You just talked shit on Kool Keith, and I just can't let that happen.

Your quote should have read "fuck all old school and new school rap except for Kool Keith."

I just thought you should keep that in mind.

The guy who wrote this review is obviously a donkey.
Lets all just get over the fact that the music is good and be happy.
And It doesnt sound like mark sing's about a fight with his mom. Listen to the song agiain but this time with your head out of your ass.

Go read a fucking book, shit head. I don't feel like telling the Pistols story how it was to some poser on the internet.

-BSD

sex pistols are a boy band kinda like n'sync only with saftey pins and spiked hair

COMMENT 2:
the only song i like on this able is "feeling this" but the rest of the albem want me want to rip my ears off and run to the hill!!

the only song i like on this able is "feeling this" but the rest of the albem want me want to rip my ears off and run to the hill!!

Sex Pistols rock. Fuck you.

-BSD

almost every single 70s rock band is better then the sex pistols they are horrible. Johnny Rotten is an annoying whiny hypocrite old fuck...
Ramones kick ass though

Ok, yeah, this was a TERRIBLE review, but I stand by the score of 2/5. Look, Blink was just trying way too hard, it did not have the same catchiness and poppy ... fun.. of the other albums. Whatever you say I think all the albums before this have been great (not so much TOYPAJ but it's still better than this). This album is just 'emo' for the sake of being 'emo', and it's just so obvious when you listen to it.

"the first three ramones records = holy trinity of punk rock."

HELLSSSS YES!

Except for me it would go "Nevermind the Bollocks", "Rocket to Russia" and the UK Clash S/T...

And to all the people bashing old punk: You're trendy indie pop punk fucks. Fuck your pop rock, fuck your pop-punk, fuck your need for a social cause, and fuck your prog. Fuck AC/DC, fuck American hardcore, and fuck everyone who listens to music and doesn't like the Ramones. Fuck all mainstream 70s music, and fuck all old school and new school rap.

-BSD

tell me where you went wrong, kid.

"I am one of those 8th graders who like listening to music about issues that people have my age and whatever age so shut your fucking mouth"

blink 182 kicks ass . I am one of those 8th graders who like listening to music about issues that people have my age and whatever age so shut your fucking mouth . There a great band
by the way ac/dc is better than all the bands your talking about

Blink 182 sucks the penis right off a horse once again in there NEW Shitty MTV Album!

maybe you should buy "the arguement" by fugazi instead of this

In order to participate in an "arguement" you shall first be able to spell ARGUMENT!!

damn americans.

"Thank God they're dying off so we dont have to listen to them make any more shitty music"

That's the most fucked up thing I ever heard.
If you're talking shit just to make people mad, you're gonna make a lot of friends.
-Janelle

to the guy who claims the ramones are the worst ever...
you should be careful with your arguement. you are implying then that the first is always worse than newer models.
thats a slippery slope arguement which i suggest you dont try.
second, by wishing death upon musicians, artists you have truly shown the quality of your arguement. "why cant everyone that i dont like die" ok... keep up that mentlity hitler

Two things after further reading this arguement.
1. The Ramones are about the worst band to ever be called a band. I dont' care if they are in the hall of fame, they suck.

Punk101's Retort "But crappypunk, they were the first, they are so awesome..."

2. I dont care. Just cause you are the first at something doesn't make you the best. If it did, then I guess the Wright Brother's plane is the best out there today.

Point in case, the Ramones, are trash. Thank God they're dying off so we dont have to listen to them make any more shitty music

"Best Punk and Hardcore Drummers:"

...he did NOT mention RAT SCABIES...
just something to think about...
-Janelle

"The drummer from Dream Theater is good, but the music they make is awful."

Hey!!! Dream Theater came to my high school one time for this after-school thing - no music was involved, they didn't play, they didn't do shit - now that I think of it, I have no idea why they came. Yeah!
-Janelle

*they owe him money. I am a tool.

Jeez, so the drummer from Blink is quite good!

The drummer from Dream Theater is good, but the music they make is awful.

Having said that Dale Crover is the best rock drummer. The perfect combination of technique, emotion and beating the shit out of his drums like he owes them money.

i like how the guy below listed a bunch of drummers that aren't that grand.. maybe he was just listing the best punk drummers, but he went out of his way to mention max from conan, without a mention of Danny Carey at all. Danny Carey is one of the greatest drummers in existance today, even if you don't like Tool. Travis Barker's solidity isn't under question.. Most drummers in professional bands are solid. Dave Grohl is fucking solid, but few people are saying he's an excellent drummer. To compare any of those guys with Danny Carey is ridiculous (maybe you've never heard him, I don't know) but if you ever saw him play live, or attended one of his drum clinics, you'd say that he in fact reigns supreme over most drummers. I can't say that there aren't better drummers out there, but I haven't heard them if there are.

ALL sux, and it shows. Berklee sux cus all those music fags go there to try and do something different. Fuck all those fags

Alright kids, lets calm down. Funkisdead and the anonymous posters both have points (as is the case with most arguments that aren't immediately dropped).

I know guys who have went to university and obtained masters in music composition and performance. These people I know tend to like free-jazz and classical music more than anything else, but I have talked to several of them about punk rock and metal and though generally they find the genres less interesting, that is only the rule and they admit certain exceptions of bands do break it.

To be fair, punk rockers can be extremely skilled and knowledgeable musicians (yes, they CAN be musicians). But to be even more fair, the BEST musicians are not playing punk rock. The best (the ones who wrote/are writing the ever-changing music methods and curriculums) are hardly (never?) caught playing 4 chords with their guitars/pianos/whatever when they can be challenging themselves with an interesting polyrhythm, melodic modulation idea, etc. -- it would be like you guys looking at last month's porn mag when a fresh one just came in the mail, the former is boring.

In conclusion, both sides have valid points, but no one (even you, funkisdead) has any ground saying the best musicians are punkers. They are musicians, but they are far from the best (I mean FAR)... when they aren't too far, they probably won't be too punk anymore... but you guys will write it off probably as selling out rather than someone's musical skill outgrowing the framework of punk rock.

That's my two cents... chances are someone's gonna argue, but it doesn't bother me because they will be wrong.

~eduardo

the ramones fucking blow my assbag. its time to grow up and stop living in the past.

the first three ramones records = holy trinity of punk rock.

"Smartest thing ever said on this fight. Throwing around names of punk, hardcore or whatever the fuck genres drummers is pointless here. What it comes down to is that 99.9% of the names mentioned here are people without much musical aptitude, just some cool chops at their instrument. People shit themselves over Blink, NOFX, Thrice, Fugazi, Propagandhi -- I'm not gonna argue how good the bands are, that is subjective, but it is possible to gauge skill level. EVERY BAND ON THIS SITE IS IN KINDERGARTEN compared to the greats. Do not listen to punk for musical aptitude. Don't, or else you are a dumbass. The only bigger dumbasses (*funkisdead*) will try to argue how some bands in the punk rock spectrum are actually brimming with musical knowledge... this is not the case.

MUSICIANS (and please understand, a guitar player in punk band X is not a musician, just someone who knows enough to work his way around a fretboard) do not bother themselves with punk rock, metal, pop, ska, rock and roll, etc. It would be no different from all of you going back to grade 1 and doing the work assigned there -- its a waste of your time and knowledge. MUSICIANS play in jazz bands, orchestras or other like-minded ensembles. I dont care what you say, you don't spend years on a music education to play a 4/4 beat with 3 or 4 chords. YOU DO NOT. The only good thing about punk rock is not the music, its the scene, the attitude, the... oh wait a minute, nowadays punk rock sucks balls. Nevermind."

Ouch...

Ignorance at it's finest.

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

"i love the ramones, but i think a lot of their back catalog was kinda shitty. lots of forgettable tracks that, had they been released by a different band, would not be held in such regard today."

Well the entirety of their first 3 albums is amazing stuff... Yeah, they did go kinda out of it in the 80s, but still rocked live.

-BSD

You are such a stupid fucking poopy face.

I, for one, am heading to Boston in January to study jazz guitar at the Berklee College of Music. I don't listen to jazz because I'm into it, I listen to it so that I can have a unique approach to fucking "punk rock" songwriting. I want to be a musician who plays punk rock. Contrary to what your comment suggest, I am definitely not the only person who feels the same way.

"The greats," as you so eloquently fucking call them, incorporate all sorts of influences to create something all their own. Something innovative. Stephen Edgerton from ALL, for example, listens to lots of Mahavishnu Orchestra shit, and it shows in his crazy single-note runs.

Plenty of jazz musicians have great chops, but that doesn't mean their licks sound musical. Plenty of other music is just sheer ego masturbation... Chops are attained through practice. Once you can play, you just fucking practice until you're as fast as you want to be. Once you learn the theory of music, you just apply it in ways that are pleasing to your ear as a musician.

Musicians do whatever the fuck they want to do, as directed by their musical tastes. If a song needs three chords, then they play three fucking chords. If the musician feels the song needs modal interchange and all sorts of fucked up whole-tone soloing, then that is exactly what he does.

It is not a question of skill, it is a question of style. You are comparing mangos and goats, and that just makes no fucking sense.

Saying that "you are a dumbass if you listen to punk because of the musicianship" is ignorant, naive, shallow, and fucking stupid. You're underestimating the sheer size of the genre. Red Animal War, just as a quick example, could fucking play all the way around your ridiculously pancake flat ass fucking seven times before you had the slightest clue as to what key they were playing in.

Your comment shows that you just don't know shit about music. If you think there aren't any punk bands that can fucking play their instruments, you are just not looking hard enough.

fuck you, you silly silly git.
funkidead

"If you like talent, stop thinking punk is it, cause it's not."

Smartest thing ever said on this fight. Throwing around names of punk, hardcore or whatever the fuck genres drummers is pointless here. What it comes down to is that 99.9% of the names mentioned here are people without much musical aptitude, just some cool chops at their instrument. People shit themselves over Blink, NOFX, Thrice, Fugazi, Propagandhi -- I'm not gonna argue how good the bands are, that is subjective, but it is possible to gauge skill level. EVERY BAND ON THIS SITE IS IN KINDERGARTEN compared to the greats. Do not listen to punk for musical aptitude. Don't, or else you are a dumbass. The only bigger dumbasses (*funkisdead*) will try to argue how some bands in the punk rock spectrum are actually brimming with musical knowledge... this is not the case.

MUSICIANS (and please understand, a guitar player in punk band X is not a musician, just someone who knows enough to work his way around a fretboard) do not bother themselves with punk rock, metal, pop, ska, rock and roll, etc. It would be no different from all of you going back to grade 1 and doing the work assigned there -- its a waste of your time and knowledge. MUSICIANS play in jazz bands, orchestras or other like-minded ensembles. I dont care what you say, you don't spend years on a music education to play a 4/4 beat with 3 or 4 chords. YOU DO NOT. The only good thing about punk rock is not the music, its the scene, the attitude, the... oh wait a minute, nowadays punk rock sucks balls. Nevermind.

Best Punk and Hardcore Drummers:

-Dave Witte (Discordance Axis)
-Matt Martin (Capitalist Casualties)
-Jord (Propagandhi)
-Oshima (Melt banana)
-Lil' Albert (Hellnation, cause he sings and plays blastbeats at the same time)
-honorable mentions: Max Ward (SPAZZ), Emu (Yacopsae), Max Weinberg (Conan O'brien), The guys from HeWhoCorrupts, Dillinger Escape Plan, Pig Destroyer, Nile, The Red Chord...Sean Sellers was pretty good too.

From everything I've heard by Blink, the drumming is rock freaking solid. I hate this band with a passion, but he is pretty good.

How do you make a 12 year old cry twice ?

Hump her and then wipe your wiener off with her teddy bear.

i love the ramones, but i think a lot of their back catalog was kinda shitty. lots of forgettable tracks that, had they been released by a different band, would not be held in such regard today.

blink is a terrible pop punk band. sure, they act as a great gateway for the less enlightened to better music, but nothing will change the fact that they are lousy musicians and a novelty act at best. oh boy, mark got hit by his dad when he was 8. WHO FUCKIN CARES. its called growing up asshole, everybody does it, and if you are still crying about it at 30 years old, you are a pussy and immature. which is exactly what blink 182 is. 30 year old immature pussies trying to act deep now because nobody laughs at their fart jokes anymore.

Some highly intelligent 4 year old posted:

"Dude, nobody cares what you think.
Just go back to your basement and whack of. Or go get laid.
And let's all just ignore the fact that you claim you write better music then Blink. For god's sake who are you John Lennon? Grow up Man.
Blink is in it for the money. Yeah right as if you would turn down money to play. But hey you're "rock star" to be right? So maybe after a couple of years you'll change your mind when we see you rocking on MTV. (Sarcasm)
And the whole selling out thing is just as old and lame as Vanilla Ice. So just drop it and do us all a big favor, drop dead!"

Why I would want to respond to this is is beyond me, but I'm really bored.

First off, somehow you think that John Lennon is the only person to write better than Blink 182. Tells us how much you idolize Blink 182. Shows how much shit you have on your mental shelf. You've clearly not experienced any music besides blink 182, otherwise you'd grasp the concept of "better". There's a pretty big gap between Blink 182 and John Lennon, and its not bragging to say I'm somewhere in that gap. Their songwriting skills are ultra weak. You'd think they'd advance their skills after so many albums, but why would they when they get paid to make shitty music.

Next, there's a big fucking difference between getting paid for a job and being "in it for the money"... Obviously people need a certain amount of money to live, but you should be skinned alive if that is ever higher up than the art you create (such as blink 182)..... money isn't evil. it's all how you get the money. these assholes earn money by performing sub-standard music to children who were molded by the industry to like it. a real musician doesn't need to justify himself by appearing on mtv in order to sell more records, since that is the sole reason a band would be on mtv. i'm not against televised music, but i certainly wouldn't be associated with a company that sells image, rather than music.

As far as doing you all a favor and dropping dead, I'm pretty sure you don't have the right to speak for anybody but yourself. Strangely thats how life works. Sorry to hear that your primate brain hasn't come to that conclusion yet. A guy, such as yourself, who can barely form complete sentences really shouldn't pretend to argue with those that have clearly put thought into the subject. Only argue if you got a logical point. Everybody's wrong sometimes, but there isn't any point in arguing if you have no actual stance. If your stance is that I suck, you haven't got a stance. It's pretty damn juvenile. I'm not sure how all of you children think getting laid is the one true answer for solving life's problems. Unfortunately, since you know nothing about me, saying I need to get laid is just an example of you having nothing good to say and reverting to childish comments, from your limited 3k database of weak insults.

Since the rest of your post had no basis in reality, I'm not going to comment on it. I feel bad for your parents. I hope they're good and decent folk. It's too bad they couldn't have raised you any better. I wish you could have a better understanding of the world, as it would probably help you get friends and lead a more fulfilling life. Good Journey.

"AH, you said ADVERTS - Am I bold in saying they were THE BEST band to come out of the first wave in the UK???!!!!"

Yes, a little too bold. And to the person who said the Ramones had crappy drumming, you're wrong. It may have been simple, but Tommy kept the beat PERFECTLY. They probably were the tightest band of the first wave, so don't fuck with them... And I want to clear something up:

If you like old fashioned rock n roll, you'll like the Ramones. If you like pop rock (basically punk with really clean sound and no edge), classic rock, or prog, you won't. If you like classic rock or prog, fuck off. You suck.

-BSD

"Ramones suck.
people in our era..don't know of the Ramones..the true Ramones, therefore should not comment on the Ramones."

And what do you like? "The Zep"? Mars Volta? You're a laughable twerp with no sense of what real rock is. Fuck off.

-BSD

No matter what I say people will love this band or hate them. Personally I think they fucking blow hard and should be taken out and beaten about the head and neck...but that's just me kids.

fAt mAn

"Who's the guy who hangs out with the band?
the drummer"

this guy should be shot on the spot, no questions asked.

Ramones suck.
people in our era..don't know of the Ramones..the true Ramones, therefore should not comment on the Ramones.

punk sites...
haha Karl...shutup.

You know what, I think this is my favorite review yet on this site. Is it informative? No. Did it sway my opinon of Blink? No. Was it funny? No. However, it shows one of the reasons people, including myself, frequent this site. Here is a another example of a non-professional review that is just some kid's idea; no one gets paid to write them, no one studies this music, and no one has been told how to write an effective review. It is "ilikebandssuchasopivy"'s opinon. You knew that when you clicked the link to the review! What the fuck is it that makes you mad when you see him vent or express disdain. There are thousands of punk sites on the net and nearly everyone will have a review of this album. If you really cared for a strong idea of the album you would read a couple of them and make your own decision.
I enjoy this site because it lets me know about upcoming releases/tours/etc. (i.e. the news part). The reviews are pretty much the same as the talkbalk except slightly more moderated. Who cares what this review said? Reviews like this enchance the enjoyment of the site because they provide something for all of us to chew on, and as is often the case, to talk shit on people/bands/scenes. This angers some people but no one forced you to read someone's inflammatory comments or reviews. What makes this site work is that people contribute their own ideas no matter how crass, inane, or pointless. This site is fun because it allows for interaction without the guilt of saying things directly to someone. That is why I love this site, these people, and this review.

Karl Hungus
(makes Ghandi look like a child pornogropher)

okay, a lil drummer fuck down there pissed me off. yeah. you! the lil kid who asked about the CGAF progression. okay, you're an idiot. you sit around listening to radiohead, thinking about what a god you are, don't you?

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE RAMONES? their in the rock and roll hall of fame. the play four chords. all the fucking time. god knows how many of the same progressions they used. you, lil boy, are not in the hall of fame. why? cause your not in a band, because most likely, you can't play drums at all. that's why youre at your pooter, whining, instead of giving travis barker drum lessons, which he apparently needs from you, oh mighty god of drumming. i hope you catch on fire and get eaten by badgers.

blink's new album is good. not earth shattering, but it's pretty cool. i likes it. this reviewer just desperately wanted to make his purple haired friends like him. very sad.

Teague---weeeee!

that is quite possibly one of the worst reviews I have ever read

shut the fuck up.

You all are fucking idiots. Punk is normally in 4/4 because, like most mainstream rock, it's just the standard. Plenty of bands, including many hardcore bands, rarely play in 4/4, but who cares. Just cause they don't doesn't mean they can't. It's not much harder, it just doesn't sound as good in most modern music so they don't do it. Stop whining about it, you probably wouldn't even notice if they did. This rating is for all the brain-dead listeners who think they know what musical knowledge and talent is. If you like talent, stop thinking punk is it, cause it's not.

you know, this record isn't anywhere near as bad as i thought it would be.

Sorry, there should be quotes around that countdown or list or whatever it is...
-J

A D V E R T S

My favorite punk bands have delightfully inept drummers:

1) Adverts
2) Germs
3) Sex Pistols
4) oh whatever FU

AH, you said ADVERTS - Am I bold in saying they were THE BEST band to come out of the first wave in the UK???!!!!
-Janelle

-You're probably the only other person to know the sheer GREATNESS of THE ADVERTS. And for that, BSD, I applaud you.

a really solid record with killer drumming was the band the other. a forgotten release on honest don's. but really, drummers dont sell records. music and image do. whetther its good or bad is subjective

yeah travis is a drummer and a half, but that Chris Tsgaskis is like 8 drummers in one. holy cow.

This review sucks because of it's lack of information,I don't expect everyone to like the album.I don't see it as anythign but a bash on a popular band (easy target)when you talk mostly about your school days and alittle bit about the actual cd (2 songs mentioned).

I don't want a fucking wonder years episode about you and blink 182.I want to hear about the album asshole.

Oh and those people who say "blink 182 never had a good album" or stuff like "all their cd's suck". Well you sound like a disgruntled ex-fan or somebody trying to look cool because if you think they all suck, YOU TOOK TIME TO LISTEN TO THEM ALL. I think bands suck but i don't waste my ears on their albums let alone all of them.

Uhh, Travis is a trained musician as well, whom, according to himself in the interview he did with some drum magazine, said that he grew up playing basically jazz, latin and fusion. He's certainly more proficient than most other punk drummers. He's almost as good as Chris Tsgaskis, ha!

Who's the guy who hangs out with the band?

the drummer

suck it! DMX style

In "Carousel" they rhymed "alone" with "alone".

And yet you bitch about them rhyming me and me on this.

Strange.

Score is for you.

fuck you guy. your review sucked. you sound very bitter. this album is great. i think you are too much of a pussy to admit it.

i will never listen to band this fake.

braid, mock orange, and cap'n jazz all use fucked up time signatures.

to great effect, i might add!

ooop, make that *tim armstrong... horray!

-Mark Lackey

hooray for drumming, and hooray for getting layed! and hooray for opinions and boo for anyone who posts negative coments. Let's not get our panties in a twist over people's anonymous opinions! When did punkers forget the love, i saw tima armstrong and the rest of rancid hug a rick from muchmusic (a canadian musicvideo station) That kinda love is what it's all about!

punk=love!

Let's all start to love one another and support eachother, punkers of the world unite (and to think all this crap started when i said "punk is dead" and "travis is steezy"

oh yeah, pardon the spelling mistakes... GO CANADA, OUR BEER IS BETTER!

My favorite punk bands have delightfully inept drummers:

1) Adverts
2) Germs
3) Sex Pistols
4) oh whatever FU

-BSD

"my words escape me/it’s too late to save me/you’re too late”. I mean c’mon, he rhymed me with me"

sounds like he rhymed escape with save to me you dumbpoop

instead of "both" i meant all.

The drummers from Faraquet, Hot Water Music and Fugazi are both jazz-influenced, trained, educated musicians. The drummer from Death Cab For Cutie is fantastic.

Plenty of "punk rock" bands work in odd time signatures. Especially underground bands working under the "emo" and "indie" tags.

I didn't namedrop Faraquet for any sort of "punk points." Making that argument is bullshit. They are a jazz influenced band, and their drummer is fucking brilliant. If you had heard the band before you opened your mouth, you wouldn't sound like a whiny little whore.

I agree that jazz and latin drumming are great. I think I said that in my first post. But I don't see how you can say that a drummer with a diverse background is automatically inferior to a jazz, or latin, drummer.

I think that, musically speaking, punk drummers work to support a song, while straight jazz drummers have a wider soundscape to cover. They can just go off, but punk rock is musical, not based on wild improvisation.

Advice: Don't fucking call me a dumbass, because you sound like a lonely, scared little girl.

And to that first kid... yes, I think i will go get "layed." Morons.

funkisdead is a dumbass.

"That's also not saying that punk drumming is simple... Check Hot Water Music, Fugazi, Faraquet, Q and Not U, Death Cab For Cutie, or even fucking Lagwagon for flawlessly executed "punk rock" drumming."

I'm not familiar with faraquet or death cab (damn, I guess there goes my punk points), but please, don't namedrop bands like hwm and lagwagon to win an argument on drumming. a drummer with chops is not a drummer with musical knowledge. as for the 2/4 comment, i agree he was wrong on that, but it brings us to another point -- why can't punk drummers bring themselves to deviate from 4/4? (6/8 and 3/4 occur occasionaly but no complex time really does, and please don't throw around thrice as an example of a mathy band because apart from a few cases of 5/4 all their "funky times" fit into 8/8 or 6/8 just with the accents on beats different from the norm -- nothing too impressive.

to conclude, funkisdead is a dumbass. jazz drumming is where it is at, as well as latin beats. cascaras, son and rhumba claves are much more interesting than ONEtwoTHREEfourONEtwoTHREEfourTRITEDRUMFILLONTOMS.

hahahaha, damn i love pissing people off on message boards. lol, "punk elitist snob" seems like everyone with enough balls to voice an opinion on this site get's called one. I mean how can u take an anonymous opinion so seriously? are u not getting enough attention at home? Mybe u should go get layed! yeah, that's always fun...

now i'm gonna plug my band "the $ellouts"

anyways keep spreading the love and a special shout out to all those straight edge cats like me who'll be enjoying life alot longer than that rest, keep replying to my posts cuz i looooooove the attention, bye

-Mark lackey

oh yeah... allow me to repeat a previous point.

"2) Punk IS alive.
a) Saying otherwise exposes your ignorance.
b) No amount of saying "punk is dead" or "this scene is dead" will earn you anything but a swift kick to the groin. "

That kid below me is a fucking elitist snob.

Travis is a flashy drummer, who enhances the otherwise cliche sound of the band. I challenge the drummers in Good Charlotte, Homegrown, New Found Glory, Simple Plan, and the Startling Line to cop any of his beats... They just can't. I'm not defending the band, but Travis can fucking rock the set in a manner that is more than appropriate to the music.

That's also not saying that punk drumming is simple... Check Hot Water Music, Fugazi, Faraquet, Q and Not U, Death Cab For Cutie, or even fucking Lagwagon for flawlessly executed "punk rock" drumming.

The best drummers are not jazz drummers, their shit gets to esoteric and meandering. The best drummers can cull influences from across the board... ideally merging jazz technique, punk rock energy, and then elements from hip hop/drum & bass... whatever.

also, punk rock drumming is rarely in 2/4. this score is for sugar daddys lollipops.

I don't know if this has been said and I don't really care if it has: TRAVIS IS NOT A GREAT DRUMMER. Some of you will probably disagree with me, so allow myself to clarify, he is not a great drummer, but he is a great PUNK drummer. He's got chops, he's got dexterity, but he's no Erskine or Theodore or any of the true artist drummers. Travis knows what a paradiddle is, he can play at top speeds and sure, he doesn't stick to a bass/snare alternating 2/4 beat like that whole slew of punk drummers... but he's not that good.

Want good drumming (or good music for that matter)? Listen to some latin music and jazz. Those styles have the best of the best, you can be challenged to think of melody and rhythmic modulation, several polyrhythms all happening at once, great improvisation, funky time signatures and so much more. Oh yeah, the latin/jazz cultures also don't have a whole bunch of kids (and even worse, 20-somethings and older arguing with kids) about Blink182 subject matter.

Don't think you are all music experts because you listen to "punk" whereas everyone else is listening to Christina Aguilera and Justin Timberlake -- the music is in essence the same, save the absence of distortion and snotty vocals. You are all losers, get lives.

PS: How many times does Blink use the CGAF progression on this album?

"Straight up, i'm gonna say that travis is a fucking kikass drummer and i hold him in very high regard as a musical pawerhouse."

Travis should be proud - there aren't many "musical PAWerhouses" these days.
-guga

This album sucks my balls
And for the guy who says AFI sucks
You definately have no taste in music what so ever!

I hate TRL. Blink 182 is above TRL.

the guy below me is the smartest guy to post anything in this entire comments section. AFI really sucks.

i like blink 182.
coheed and cambria sucks. AFI sucks. good charlotte sucks. simple plan.... really sucks. AFI sucks. all american rejects suck. new found glory sucks. AFI sucks. division of laura leee sucks. AFI sucks. simple plan sucks. GOB sucks. AFI sucks. the matches suck. AFI sucks. thank you.

I just want to know one thing, when did you get the right to declare punk is dead? accept this cd for what it is, they did what they wanted to do, you don't have to like it. they didn't make this record to impress lame scenesters who work in wal-mart.

Straight up, i'm gonna say that travis is a fucking kikass drummer and i hold him in very high regard as a musical pawerhouse. Anyways, seeing as how all of u people are on here either to defend your punk cred, plug ur fave band, or just be an asshole, i figure'd i'd follow suit. It is in my opinion that PUNK IS DEAD! it has degenerated into a sorry nostalgia act for the socially accepted, pseudo-rebellious, credit card packing children of todays united states of america. I believe that "punk" (and i am aware of the taboo-osity of putting quotaiton marks around that word) yes, "punk" quite simply means thinking for urself, questioning authority and acceptance and tolerance for all walks of life. Why are we persecuting these casualtys of common american greed, all of you people are no better than they are coming on here. I come to this site to read up on bands i like, yeah, i liked blink in grade 8, i listened to them and greenday and the offspring and that kinda stuff, but i never called them "punk" bands. I really only identified with it when i started listening to bad religion. Damn, i'm rambling, oh well, this album is okay for pop-punk, kinda pretentious, kinda repetative, but at least it's not the same as the last album. Anyways, let's stop the hatin'! and start lovin' one another! If the whatever "punks" left in this world fight and bicker amoungst themselves then it's the enemy (whoever that is) that wins... travis still kiks -Mark Lackey

I really don't know why I come here anymore...

blink 182 are so hardcore

Hmm...
Is that guy saying the only person to write better music than Blink 182 would be John Lennon?

No, what I met with that is that there was a guy who wrote some shit claiming that he can write music better then blink. So I just wrote down the name of the first great song writer that I could remember.
Also for the whole sell-out thing that some "loser, no life scumbag" wrote.
Let me ask you this.
Would you want to get paid when you're working? I think everyone would like to get money for the work they did. Especially if you worked your ass off. So that's what Blink does, they work (play their music around the world) and they get paid. But no, there's always some loser somewhere always to talk about the whole sellout shit.
But do you know what I think is more pathetic about the whole sell out shit? That these "fans" I'm sorry "Hardcore Punk Fans" are all on their own. Hahaha poor bastard. All of the bands are getting tired of this whole bullshit. The bands try to support each other and these fans think they're cool for calling Blink etc.. sell outs. So sad, I think probably the day they will stop is when the bands that they love will them this "Listen up pathetic Fans! We don't even care about the whole punk or not, Sell outs or not thing. Just drop dead!" That will make those fans so miserable cause their lives are completely gone.The main reason they lived for is dead. No one really cares no more! No!! Now they'll just have to please us and the rest of the world and just shoot themself or just swallow pills.
PS. It is true you guys need to get laid. Go pay a hooker or something.

Oh, and I must add. Though I am not a fan of Good Charlotte, you have called them sellouts. Of all bands, Good Charlotte? It has been as possible for them to sellout as it has for Celin Deon. We are taking about a band that's first label was a major label, that immediately had a major label video to pitch to MTV, and immediately began headlining tours on buses, fueled by the marketing support of the major label.

"Anyone who thinks Blink 182 isn't in it for money is a fucking tool.

Just look at their track record; appearances on major film soundtracks, sponsorships by major corporations, only selecting slow songs for their videos. Blink 182 are almost as bad as Good Charlotte in the sell-out department."

It's interesting that you are quick to call others "tools", though you are the one subjected to proclaiming information based on no credible merit, just for the sake of spreading a horribly uninformed and petty point.

a)As for appearing in major film soundtracks, let's not forget that bands are composed of individuals. Individuals, who perhaps like you or I (depending on your prefences), happen to enjoy things. Like movies. And perhaps they wanted to be a part of these things they happen to like. A weak argument, but the Clash's music has appeared in different soundtracks of major motion pictures as well as major television ads.

b)Sponserships by major corporations... Such as? Companies that can provide the band deals with the tools they use to perform? Such as Fender, Gibson, and Mesa Boogie? Give me a break. The only other sponsership that exists with the band include clothing. The drummer gets free shoes from DC Shoe Company. The band used to get free clothing from Hurley International (who yes, has since been purchased in part by Nike, however the band is no longer sponsered by this company now). That's about it.

c)Only selecting slow songs for their singles: Yes, for every release the band has only selected slow songs. Slow songs such as M&Ms (Cheshire Cat), Dammit, Josie (Dude Ranch), What's My Age Again, All The Small Things (Enema of The state), the Rock Show, First date (Take Off Your Pants and Jacket), Feeling This (Untitled). Give me a fucking break.

And in terms of the world sellout - the band never had anything to sell out. Even if you find them to be a ridiculous pop band today, then by that logic they were a ridiculous pop band from day one.

And yes, I realize I am equally sily for typing so much about a topic hardly worth my time. I just have no life!

I read at least 3 different comments saying that we should go get laid.

SERIOUSLY, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THIS? I REALLY WANT A GIRL TO TOUCH MY PEE PEE!!!!111

Anyone who thinks Blink 182 isn't in it for money is a fucking tool.

Just look at their track record; appearances on major film soundtracks, sponsorships by major corporations, only selecting slow songs for their videos. Blink 182 are almost as bad as Good Charlotte in the sell-out department.

Hmm...
Is that guy saying the only person to write better music than Blink 182 would be John Lennon?

To rightcliqificus :
Dude, nobody cares what you think.
Just go back to your basement and whack of. Or go get laid.
And let's all just ignore the fact that you claim you write better music then Blink. For god's sake who are you John Lennon? Grow up Man.
Blink is in it for the money. Yeah right as if you would turn down money to play. But hey you're "rock star" to be right? So maybe after a couple of years you'll change your mind when we see you rocking on MTV. (Sarcasm)
And the whole selling out thing is just as old and lame as Vanilla Ice. So just drop it and do us all a big favor, drop dead!

"to hell with all of you, just buy the aquabats dvd"

w00t!

"blink 182 are clearly in it for the money, whether you like them or not"

I'm not sure how/if you can justify this statement. I mean, you could make a good argument for it, and I could make a good argument against it, but neither of us can prove it either way, since I'm not a personal friend of the band, and somehow I doubt you are either. I mean, let's face reality. We don't know the mindset of these guys, and you can't say Tom, Mark and Travis are thinking "Gee, lets write this song because it will make us money." Nor can I say that they're thinking the opposite. But from what I gather, by reading interviews and such, I would go as far as to say Travis was born to be in a band, and Tom likes making music. But hey, again, I don't know better than you would, so lets both not make broad statements anymore.

i've been hearing a lot of idiot blink fans saying something similar to this "well if you're so badass, how come you aren't making music." or "i'd like to see you write something better" or "maybe if you tried writing music, you'd see its not so easy"....
i hate how fucking narrow minded some of you can be...you automatically assume that nobody here is a musician... unfortunately, there is music outside of blink 182.. yeah, there are worse bands than blink 182, but i feel if you can't write good lyrics and you can't write good music, you suck.. thats the way it is.. some of you are saying stuff like "so what if the lyrics aren't the best.. lyrics aren't everything".... correct.. lyrics aren't everything.. they're only part of equation.. but if blink 182 plays C G A F one more fucking time, i'm going to kill somebody... realistically, there are still people out there that care about punk, because it had such a huge impact on their lives.. its a sacred thing to some people, and they hate seeing it trampled into the mud by some assholes out to make money. blink 182 are clearly in it for the money, whether you like them or not. i'm not even a blink hater, but i can at least be realistic about it. these guys are sponsored by clothing companies, for one.. thats just one way they've sold out.. and even if their music is "pure" and untainted by that selling out, who cares if its mediocre.. blink 182 is nothing fancy. i'm not musical god, for sure, but if i can write better stuff than these guys after having only 5 years of experience, then something must be wrong. i refuse to believe that i am THAT badass. i haven't heard this whole album, so i can't give an accurate review of it as a whole, but the 3 songs i've heard all sound the same.. they made me angry.. i was okay with everything up through EOTS, but all this new stuff i'm hearing is bad.

"I'm sorry, but with so many great releases out this season (Strike Anywhere, Denali, Duvall, Larry Arms), I don't see why anyone would even consider buying this.

Even if it isn't quite as bad as their previous stuff, it isn't good either. Blink never will be good, it's a womb thing. "

So, you haven't heard it, but you're still judging it? There's a word for that, it's "prejudice." Don't judge something you haven't heard, because that just showcases your ignorance. If, you should still not like it after you've heard it, thats fine, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But don't make ass out of yourself by making a dumbass statement like that.

I don't care about this.

"Feeling this" is the worst song since anything Alexisonfire did.

I'm going to be original and say this review KICKS ASS!!

oh do I FEEL SPECIAL!!

the ScORE Is fOR tHiS rEViEW!!!LOLZ!!1!!1

probably the worst review of the year, and for a site that posts shit reviews day after day, thats pretty bad, and i hope the writter reads this, review score 0

The score is for the review. I know your not the same 13 year old blink fan anymore but you sure sounds like a 16 year old terrible music critic you are now.

I'm sorry, but with so many great releases out this season (Strike Anywhere, Denali, Duvall, Larry Arms), I don't see why anyone would even consider buying this.

Even if it isn't quite as bad as their previous stuff, it isn't good either. Blink never will be good, it's a womb thing.

Plus, "Feeling This" is a flat-out awful starter with bad lyrics.

ok... there should be a "want" between "visitors" and "quality reviews" in my post below... sorry

"ok people, enough. you all thought the review sucked. i got the point after the first 3 posts. and i find it so interesting that 1 year ago everyone hated blink and now it's like Fugazi released a new cd. i believe that this album may be a step in the right direction but i dobn't buy that you all are die-hard blink fans now. why don't you people try producing an original thought."

Doesn't matter if this was a good or bad album, the review was crappy either way. Doesn't mean that everyone is a "die-hard blink fan", the visitors quality reviews no matter what band it is about.

l1ke every1 dissing dis needs to get a life! like the guy beneath me he said that blink was just following a trend but thats not true

"I don't think Jawbreaker's debut came out until 1990..."

From http://home.uchicago.edu/~bender/discog/wandb.html

Jawbreaker was releasing stuff in 1989, fucker!!

Fuck you. Bitch. You know nothing about music. Kill yourself for ever doubting my word.

This score is for Blink; they changed their sound to fool people into thinking they're "in" again. I'm glad I'm not an lemming like 90% of the people who commented in this topic.

ok people, enough. you all thought the review sucked. i got the point after the first 3 posts. and i find it so interesting that 1 year ago everyone hated blink and now it's like Fugazi released a new cd. i believe that this album may be a step in the right direction but i dobn't buy that you all are die-hard blink fans now. why don't you people try producing an original thought.

Awful review.
Are we meant to say that the album is bad because the lyrics are "lame"?
I'm not convinced specifically because the proof that they are lame lyrics is simply quoting them.
Stop writing.

Hahaha...Just sad.
I really thought that "these" pathetic kind of people didn't even exist anymore. I thought you guys were extinct or something. Well I think you should be extinct.
Always bitching,crying like some baby bitches.."Blink sucks!! Fuck all the Blink Fans!!" I Mean come on, grow up!! The whole "I'm Punk, You're a poser" is so out of style. What the fuck do you fucking care if someone loves blink or not? Do you pay the money to buy the CD for them? No, so just shut the fuck up. And do yourself and the world a favor and just drop fucking dead. If someone wants to call Blink Rap/Trance/Opera what the fuck do you care,it's their problem.
I can bet you all the money of the world that 90 % of all the "Blink" haters or "Pop-Punk" haters are all pathetic guys that have no life and probably live alone(in the basement of their parents home). Go get laid!! Get a life! Really, no one doesn't even care anymore about the whole punk/not punk shit. Just grow up.
BTW Review sucked, try to review the album it self and not the band.

You think Blink came up with all those guitar effets and sampling? Can you say "producer".

Please Blink doesn't have more talent because they put out this album. I'm big fan of their last 2 cds but this one is nothing impressive. They tried to be serious on this album and they failed.

fucking horrible review .... why do you post up such shit ? It's all about the music and not the image. Reviewers take it personal and try to wreck bands for some personal gratifycation.

let's see you put out something better.

new blink = talent

Look, I've always been a fan of blink and I've loved every album they put out punk or not. Except this album.

This album is not so bad.
But the review is.
Wow, he's so cool; he hates Blink-182!

I like the new blink alot more then there last 2 records combined...
this review seemed quite bitter...someone having trouble containing the "trl hate syndrome" it seems.

""Blink fans are idiots. "

You people who generalize are all the same.

( 5 SP's to the first reference picker-upper)

Score for review I guess? He didn't give much grounds for bashing a band trying to experiment."

Oh fuck off, asswhipe. Believe it or not, there is a pretty clear grounds for what's pop and what's punk, and this band has never been punk. Fuck you guys for buying into this ploy.

Why is it a ploy? Because Blink knows that NOBODY would like them again until they went "not sell out"... And I guess it worked on you stupid fucking apes... Go jizz your pants because a shitty pop band has incorporated a little shitty techno into their music, fucks.

-BSD

I don't think Jawbreaker's debut came out until 1990...

To the guy who said BLink created the emo fad: fuck you. Jawbreaker was doing this in the 80s, in a much fresher format.

This score is for the album. Joan-of-Arc is better than this.

that guy who talking about rush should get the shit kicked out of him. not because he was talking about rush, but because he is just an asshole.

you are wrong.

blink 182 just cashed in on the burgeoning emo scene. braid were around back then. braid were a fucking great band. fugazi, embrace, and rites of spring introduced elements of "emo" to punk rock well before braid. cap'n jazz were firmly rooted in punk rock. jawbreaker are a proto-emo band, in many respects. jawbox were kinda emo, but very hardcore as well. you are also forgetting samiam, dag nasty, and the promise ring.

i could keep going, but i have this ridiculously fat bowl sitting right in front of me, waiting for some love.

Blink defenders. Alright ladies and gents its official we're too old to be in the punk scene when we see this happen. I was 22 when "said album" was released and it sucked then. Fuck these punk kids are morons. I think I'm gonna start listening to Rush or Led Zepplin. Anything to get away from this. Blink defending, I'm rolling on the fucking ground, go back to junior high titty twister comps, skater fags.

Two Comments;

Blink aren't really riding the coat tails of the emo fad because they started the emo fad in punk. They picked Mark Trombino to produce Dude Ranch because they were huge fans of Jimmy Eat World's Static Prevails (as they stated in an MTV interview in 97, way before I'm sure 99.9% of the readers of this site heard of that band)and have progressivly been putting those influences into thier music ever since. And remember the song "emo" from said album.

Second comment;
"Go" isn't about Mark having a childlike fight with his mother or however you summed it up. The song is about him and his mom trying to escape his abusive father when he was 10 and his mom being too affraid to run away.

So I hope you feel awesome for writing such an inciteful review and I can't wait to hear you declare that MxPx are trying to rip off Good Charlotte.

my reviews:
this album - 1
this review - 0

Ok guys, everyone just shut the fuck up. We're talking about blink 182 here, for christ's sake. By now you know if you like them or you not. I bet that won't change any time soon.

Arguing over this bullshit is a guaranteed way to earn yourself a position on the punknews.org "Least Respected, Biggest Dipshit Chart." Trust me, it exists. I think I'm on it too, but that's beside the point.

I admit to participating in the "punk/not punk" debate from time to time, and the "emo/not emo" debate too. With a band like this, however, those debates are null and void. They don't apply. Blink 182 is just a band with punk rock roots. They could ditch their guitars and make a tribute to Yanni, played exclusively on a Moog, and it would still be grounds for coverage on this site.

Something doesn't need to be easily pigeon-holed to make it worth your while.

Also, if you don't want to look like a complete, absolute moron, I would strongly recommend that you never, ever, ever, say that "the scene is fucking dead," or any paraphrasing thereof. It makes me mad. It clearly is not dead, this site is around. There are still punk bands. There is still a DIY network of concert promotion that stretches across the entire world. You just sound like a cynical, moronic douche who knows 0 about the underground music community. You are just spouting trivialities... catch phrases... catharsis for the collective rejection of your musical tastes.

Ok, in sum:
1) Blink 182 is Blink 182/Love them or hate them.
a) Either way, no one cares except you.

2) Punk IS alive.
a) Saying otherwise exposes your ignorance.
b) No amount of saying "punk is dead" or "this scene is dead" will earn you anything but a swift kick to the groin.

3) I am scrumtrillescent.

sincerely,
funkisdead.

I don't know if this album is pretty good, but that was a great review.

"I mean c’mon, he rhymed me with me," that was goddamn funny too.

"Why the hell are there two reviews of this CD? Just seems stupid to me... One is enough!"

There are two because Scott or whoever wants two opinions on the CD.

-Justin

has anyone else noticed the ridiculous similarity between Blink's new song "Violence" and Refused's "Blind Date"? Thats right. . .vocal rhythm rip off!

wow
its amazing that people tend to hate the band they loved about 5 years later just because its not so punk anymore. hahaha. You fuckers are ridiculous. This may not be the best blink record to date, but fuck, it its definitely a progression in the right direction. Nobody needs fans like you cynical mother fuckers. Theres something called loyalty, and nobody needs someone who won't always be by their side. Fuck you all who think they know exactly what music these days is about, cuz if you were that cool or talented, youd be makin music yourself. Lame asses. respect whats out there, cuz if you aint doin shit about, you aint got shit to say.

by the way, just to satify my curiosity, what bands are you saying Blink is ripping off? They don't happen to be bands that cite Blink as an influence, are they?

"Jesus Fuckin' Christ! First, you guys kiss Sum 41's ass cause they decide to go a lil heavier. Now you kiss Blink's ass cause they matured? What the hell is wrong w/ u guys? It is an obvious ploy to make people go " i now respect these guys now." THEY ARE FRICKIN RIPPING OFF CURRENT TRENDS AND TALENTED BANDS. "

I hope you're not one of those guys that kissed AFI's ass when they did "Girls Not Grey" the most pop punk song ever....

Why is it that you believe that it's "an obvious ploy"? I mean, thats a pretty strong statement, and you've provided nothing to back it up. I mean, do you have some super secret Geffen memo that says "We should make Blink 182 sound more experimental and mature." Yeah...didn't think so.

It's one thing to not like a band. Thats' fine. I'm sure I like bands you don't like, and you like bands I don't. But it's a whole other thing to pull things out of your ass and say that it's the truth because you said so.

Jesus Fuckin' Christ! First, you guys kiss Sum 41's ass cause they decide to go a lil heavier. Now you kiss Blink's ass cause they matured? What the hell is wrong w/ u guys? It is an obvious ploy to make people go " i now respect these guys now." THEY ARE FRICKIN RIPPING OFF CURRENT TRENDS AND TALENTED BANDS.

Now I am not writing this for punk points caus the it is a) pointless and b) the scene has been dead for a couple years ago. Its just a bunch of posuers and elitists. Plus i realize others have a diff taste in music and i respect that but damn, you people are so easily duped.

haha

everyone is getting so cut because the reviewer didn't say blink is amazing, they followed the latest trend. wow! how original and experimental! (because .... it's not)

"Blink fans are idiots. "

You people who generalize are all the same.

( 5 SP's to the first reference picker-upper)

Score for review I guess? He didn't give much grounds for bashing a band trying to experiment.

This review blows. So you don't like it, write about the songs, don't use 2 examples. It's a REVIEW not a "Let's bitch about bands that aren't punk anymore."

And to those who hate Blink, you don't have to read the review, simple as that.

"Not the best album in the world, but certainly not a horrible album... It doesn't really compare to Cheshire Cat or Dude Ranch, but it's definitely a step back into the right direction"

I hate it when people say cheshire cat was a good album just because it was their punk stuff. There are many bands that do it a lot better. At least they are changing their style.

"This album is going to sell more copies then your Mom’s brownies at a bake sale, so why bother."

I wish I were half as cool as you.

ahem.
Q: Why was Michael Jackson relieved of his Cub Scout Leader duties?
A: He was up to a pack a day.

blink fans, go here:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/attachment.ph p?postid=5904728

dude your fucked in the head if you dont thinik its good i liked there pop punk but it was getting old i am so glad they went this way and i think musically its better too in my opionion its the best blink album up to date so if you dont own it already go get it now

...pretentious

Surely there must have been a better/wittier/funnier negative review of the new record than this....

I have never read more closed minded comments in my life...if you like something else tell people about it but dont tear down other people

pretensious assholes

"i would rather flip burgers my whole life than sellout and compromise my ideals and kill the punk scene"

punk scenes dead...sorry

"hey blink fans, face it. theres never been a good blink record. man i hate this band. theres so many good bands out there, why'd this band get so popular"

perhaps the blink fans think all the blink records are good(i love opinions). Yes there are alot of good bands out there but they are also different bands...just because there is other good music dosent mean this is bad...judge the music on the music and not the scene........... try judging this cd agaist other blink cd's instead of cursive or murder by death or the shins...as far as I knwo those are all very different bands.

(jackass)

horrid review...did he even take the time to listen to the whole cd? The lyrics are light years better than their last 2 albums, and musically it's different but in a good way.
"You're just pissed because your "culture" has been made public and the kids that make fun of you are now listening to the bands you like. Get over it."
Amen brother....

'tom is god. their album is just amazing. fuck all of u who wrote that they suck. mark is god too. travis, not so much'

hmm, I was thinking just the opposite.

And anything by Wesley W. is better than this.

hey blink fans, face it. theres never been a good blink record. man i hate this band. theres so many good bands out there, why'd this band get so popular? jeezus H

Wesley willis' "the thirsty whale" is better than this whooole record.

To the "flipping burgers" comment:
i would rather flip burgers my whole life than sellout and compromise my ideals and kill the punk scene.

If you listen to blink why are you on a punk website? Shouldn't you be waiting for some drive-thru cd to come out so you can cry to it and get some autographs?

tom is god. their album is just amazing. fuck all of u who wrote that they suck. mark is god too. travis, not so much

Not the best album in the world, but certainly not a horrible album... It doesn't really compare to Cheshire Cat or Dude Ranch, but it's definitely a step back into the right direction.

And add me to the list of people who feel old after hearing people complain about "All the Small Things" coming out when they were in 8th grade.

"What about lyrics, so they arent what you want to hear, big deal! If you dont like the lyrical content of something then dont listen to it"

Blink fans are idiots.

-BSD

to hell with all of you, just buy the aquabats dvd

The score is for this review!

Why the hell are there two reviews of this CD? Just seems stupid to me... One is enough!

And this review sucked. Only lot's of whining all the time, no objective look at the album. Seems like punknews.org lets any crappy reviewer write whatever they want to. A good reviewer always looks at the both sides of a record. Seems to me that this guy hated the record just because the "real punks" are supposed to hate blink... that's so lame.

i strongly disagree with this review.

i agree tahoejeff. shit i was in 8th grade when chesire cat came out. all you damn kids with your loud music. nah but the album's alright, some really good stuff, some really average stuff. still nowhere near chesire cat or dude ranch

Hey janelle...you think YOU'RE old?

I teach drum lessons to middle school kids, and Whenever I'm trying to teach a new type of rhythm, i use real life examples of it. Anyway, one of my examples was the drum intro from Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit". I had 4 different kids ask me who Nirvana was. Then they tell me "I was born in 1990!"

bam! All my hair just fell out. Unbelievable!

-Ken

"You were in 8th grade when "enema..." came out?? Damn I feel old"

Uh you said it! Maybe those "grandma" references are valid afterall...
-Janelle

This is one of the worst reviews Ive read on this site...it felt more like a rant than a review...You were in 8th grade when "enema..." came out?? Damn I feel old

This cd still makes me want to tear my anus out with a fish hook.

score is for the review. maybe you should write some songs; it sounds like you have enough to whine about

I hate this reviewer. Op Ivy sucks. OVERRATED. Blink 182 aren't awesome. They're not terrible. This new CD has some redeeming qualities.

Ummm, about 1-2 seconds. Thanks for thinking it took more effort than that, quite the compliment.

"Hey ilikehsittybands"

Wow, how long did it take for you to come up with that one?

that song isn't about him fighting with his mom. it's about his dad hitting them and them running away and mark telling his mom he doesn't want to go back.

read the lyrics, dipshit.

"What about lyrics, so they arent what you want to hear, big deal!"

That kind of is a big deal. That may not be your opinion but this is not your review. It's called opinion.

This review was pretty good, but here's how I would make it better:

1. Which band member is the cover supposed to be?

2. Who has "x"s for eyes anyways?

3. Dead people?

4. If you blink 182 times in a row, that would be hard.

5. I dare you!

well...now i've read two side of the argument...and both are too extreme for me...i guess i am somewhere in the middle...i like the album but i don't think it's a must own or brilliant or anything...

I liked Scott's review, this one seemed more like it had an axe to grind than any real insight or criticisms. The repeated "Down" thing, for example, was used for rhythmic effect, so whether it was repeated 10 times or 40 times is as relevant as whether Travis hit the snare 10 times or 40 times.

I think they did a great job on this release, and I have a new found respect for Blink 182. I never disavowed enjoying Enema, or Dude Ranch mind you, they were both great for the time they were released in, but it's cool to see that they've matured along with all of us.

i love how everyone is such a hardcore blink fan now...this album is shit.

Subway at six guys and girls, be there or be, well this guy.

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/

That is seriously one of the worst fucking reviews I have ever read. Did you happen to even listen to whats going on musically? What about lyrics, so they arent what you want to hear, big deal! If you dont like the lyrical content of something then dont listen to it. This album is 1000X better than their last two albums, musically and lyrically. They actually took their time to work through songs and try different formulas. They could have put out the same old album and be all over the media, but they decided to the album that they thought best. You're just pissed because your "culture" has been made public and the kids that make fun of you are now listening to the bands you like. Get over it.

your a fool

One of the worst reviews ever

martin*

So you were in grade 8 when 'All the small things' came out. That means you were like 2 when Cheshire cat came out...get a life....

Agreed, get some fucking objective opinions for once, not just slamming a band that you've hated for years.
Score for the review. The other one was 10x better

your reviews suck. dont write any more.

"I can always make some copies and sell it outside the elementary school."

i'm sure you're 5th grade companions will adore you.

anyway, i bought the album (using best buy mcdonald bucks) and i kind of like it. though it seems every band is going to the indie/emo scene now (example brand new). while it's not my thing, at least bands are changing and still sound decent.

Ramo

bonerz

I realize that I acknowleged two different individuals in my last post, without proper clarification.

To the commenter a few posts below, you hit the nail right on Jesus' head. This is not a fresh opinion, it's just a response to the emotions Scott's review had stirred up. I do not say this just because your view conflicts with the prior, however because rather than critiquing the album you are just trying to make it clear that you did not find this to be a good album, despite what others, namely Scott, will lead others to believe.

He isn't singing about a fight he had with his mom, he is singing about his mom and dad fighting. Just becuase he is 30 years old doesn't mean he can't write a song about the broken home that he grew up in, considering growing up in that enviornment can affect someone for their entire life. When he is 60, his life will still be affected by his childhood experiences. One's own life is what they know best, and i dont see how singing about your childhood is immature, no matter how old you are. This was obviosuly a very biased review. Good job.

"but at least with Enema of the State, and Take off Your Pants and Jacket (get it?), it was new and unexplored for the masses who had not heard such a band"

I disagree with this statement. The mainstream went through the `95 pop punk thing prior, so they definately had a taste for this style of music. By the time TOYPAJ was released it was absolutely nothing new for the "masses."

-adam

Stop complaining, this album is ridiculously good. Do I sense a tad bit of jealously towards the members of Blink 182...have fun flippin burgers loser.

I like how this review is really just an excuse to refute the review done by Scott. Hey ilikehsittybands, that's why this site allows you to post your thoughts under the original reviews. Spare us your lame opinions.

That's more like it. This score is for the album.

agreed