From Autumn To Ashes / Avenged Sevenfold

From Autumn To Ashes / Avenged Sevenfold: live in Long Islandlive in Long Island (2003)
Vagrant Records

Reviewer Rating: 3.5

Contributed by: FashioningKnivesFashioningKnives
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The show at the Downtown in Farmingdale, New York consisted of Dearly Departed/Nora/Avenged Sevenfold and the ever popular From Autumn To Ashes. I really did go into this show expecting great things from Nora and A7X and I wasn't disappointed. Dearly Departed opened with a very generic sound.

The show at the Downtown in Farmingdale, New York consisted of Dearly Departed/Nora/Avenged Sevenfold and the ever popular From Autumn To Ashes. I really did go into this show expecting great things from Nora and A7X and I wasn't disappointed.

Dearly Departed opened with a very generic sound. I wasn't impressed with their energy either. Their music reminded me of Murder By Death and oddly enough the vocals were very similar to those of Creed or Staind. I'm not sure but the band looked a bit nervous and I dont wanna bash them totally, considering it takes guts to get up there in front of a large crowd as the opener.

Nora came up next and boy did they fuck shit up. The lead singer came out and burst right into the opener and the crowd totally freaked out and flew into a circle pit. This stunned me because the second band normally wouldn't get this type of reaction but they rocked the joint and I was pleased with everything they did. The final song they played blew the fucking roof off. "Nobody Takes Pictures Of the Drummer" is the song that anyone familar with Nora knows and loves. The crowd knew it and Nora knew they loved it by the bodies were flying every which way. They got a huge ovation and left.

Now the band that should have been headlining was due to come on. I knew from from friends that Avenged Sevenfold puts on a crazy show but I was in no way ready for the show to come. The lights went out, it was pitch black and sounds of a thunder storm were played with lights flickering with every thunder strike. This did nothing but get the crowd pumped and boy did it show when they came out and burst into the opener, Unholy Confessions. Not one word was sung and the pit was already spinning. The lead singer screamed for a circle pit and there it was. Next they played my favorite song Chapter Four and the crowd knew every lyric and screamed at the top of their lungs. When they got to the final song, Second Heartbeat the crowd was beat up and tired but they came back strong to fuck shit up for the fan favorite song. Never in my life have I seen such great guitar playing live. The song, if you haven't heard it, is filled with crazy neck bending solos and they were a real treat to witness live. The crowd erupted after A7X finished up and seemed to be more than content with their fill of metal gods Avenged Sevenfold.

Before headliners From Autumn To Ashes came out I remarked to my friend the crowd looked dead and uninterested. I didn't know how right I was until FATA stepped on stage. Benjamin Bratt stepped on stage with beer in hand and burst into the usual opener, The After Dinner Payback, a crowd favorite. Everyone sung every word but a pit was nonexistant. When the song ended so did the show. Sure FATA kept playing but without energy or conviction. I felt as if they were going through the motions. Benjamin being admittedly drunk didnt help that I'm sure. He fucked up song titles and even forgot lyrics. It was a pretty sad sight, but the hundreds of girls at the show ate it up. I never really understood bands that get smashed before shows especially if they can't handle it like The Lawrence Arms can (Shameless Plug). They continued playing songs such as Lilacs and Lolita, Too Bad You're Beautiful, and closed with Reflections, a fan favorite that got no reaction what so ever. The finished up and left stage not to return for an encore, basically because no one desired one.

The show was very mediocre in the opening and headlining slots. I would have loved to see both Nora and Avenged Sevenfold take the headlining slot from the incompetent From Autumn To Ashes. As I was leaving the venue tonight I heard something that very much describes the state of affairs at this show and in music today. A young girl with Abercrombie pocket book in hand said to her lookalike friend "FATA rocked but who were those two poser bands before them?" Ok I have no clue what that was supposed to mean but all I know is if a group of girls at a show like this can honestly say that FATA was better than Nora and Avenged Sevenfold this music scene is going to hell a lot faster than I imagined.

Thank you Nora and Avenged Sevenfold for making my night.


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Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not respon sible for them in any way. Seriously.
a7xbabe4ever (May 19, 2006)

a7x r always gonna b great live!!

Anonymous (February 2, 2005)

first off i would like to say this..anyone who criticizes A7X and speak negatively about them should sit and actually listen to their music. they are one of the most musically tallented bands today..period. The Reverend is easily one of the best drummers in this whole "punk/metal" scene. have your opinions but dont criticize on what u know nothing about.


Anonymous (August 9, 2004)

whatever on this review. and avenged sevenfold are not hardcore. and they don't claim to be. they claim to be punk/metal and i hate people who judge a band on how thay look, what they wear, what label thay're on and where thay're from. even befor you've ever heard them. I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THAT!!!!! so what if they're from orange county. i live in riverside. not too far from there. its not about ANYTHING but the music. screw you who think otherwise!!!!


Anonymous (February 17, 2004)

regardless to the fact that i dont like avenged sevenfold at all they did put on a good show and fata blew ass

Anonymous (February 12, 2004)

A7X, mainstream or not, just remember this one little thing....
they will always be better than your band and will always tear you apart live whenever you see them. shutup.

Anonymous (January 22, 2004)

to the kid two reviews down:
if you havent heard avenged...you are in for a treat...first off the drummer alone makes FATA's look like fucking trey cool from green day. the guitars are better and the stage presence is too. so...in other words...shutup.

Anonymous (December 22, 2003)

Wow they make Sadaam Hussein sit through these bands. Now thats really torture. Maybe we can get him to divulge where he hid the weapons of mass destruction

Anonymous (December 22, 2003)

"this score is for the review: if you find me one girl that even knows who from autumn to ashes are i'll be a very surprised man, avenged sevenfold suck for two reasons (and i've never even heard them): 1. they're from orange county (there have been good bands from there, but i'm over it now) and 2. the whole warner brothers thing"

You, sir, are a fucking idiot.
1. Plenty of girls know who FATA are. Who do you think all those girls at their shows are?
2. Ruling out bands because they're from a location/on a label is ridiculous. I'll admit that you can guess the basis of their sound, but saying they suck without having heard them makes no sense.
P.S. OC still has plenty of great bands.

Anonymous (December 22, 2003)

FATA is boring live, but Avenged Sevenfold is fantastic. (Coming from a person who doesn't even like most hardcore)

GreenVandal (December 22, 2003)

avenged sevenfold shouldnt be hanging around this trash.

Anonymous (December 22, 2003)

Well, if they are on Hopeless, Dress like little punkers, and play crappy mallcore, i would have to say they were trying to be punk.

Anonymous (December 22, 2003)

Yep, and little in-it-for-the-minute dipshits like you are hated too. Fuck off. I hear Limp Bizkit is about to drop a new album.

See ya, Bro

Anonymous (December 21, 2003)

I hate the scene, whatever one that is. Everything has to be part of the scene, it's fucking stupid. I also hate when people type shit like " Avenged 7fold sux tho sry" and don't think they are dumbasses.

I fucking hate people.

FortyMinutesWest (December 21, 2003)


I didn't know being on a punk label automatically made you punk.

Anonymous (December 21, 2003)

Um, they were on hopeless?

FortyMinutesWest (December 20, 2003)

I'm confused as to how A7X could be screwing over the punk scene when:

a)They're a metal band
b)They tour with mostly metal bands
c)They'll continue to tour with mostly metal bands
d)They've never claimed to be punk or hardcore

Anonymous (December 20, 2003)

"if you are still in the stage where you like or hate bands because they have or haven't "sold out" then you have a lot of growing up to do. Yet this is still over half of the scene out there... "

Well I don't know about you, but I for one don't consider mainstream bands as being part of the scene at all. These people are scene dropouts. Fuck 'em. Fuck you for liking them. Assclown.

Anonymous (December 20, 2003)

Lecture time: The argument against mainstream corporate punk is as follows and will always remain...

1) Regardless of the roots of mainstream big-name garbage (aka Ramones, sex pistols etc) the basis for punk over the last 20 years has been rebellion against something.

2) The vast majority of punk shouts at the stupid consumer culture and bullshit society we live in. Punk is about changing the way you think and doing something for yourself.

3) Punk has ALWAYS been something created by the fans, the kids. Though trending does happen, everything from fashion (mohawks, leathers, spikes patches etc) to lingo (poseur, D-beat) has been created by ourselves.

The argument is this: Putting out punk records on mainstream labels and buying "punk" stuff from major stores is like stabbing yourself in the back. You cannot allow punk to be commodified and sold back to you by someone (i.e. fatcat businessmen) who could care less if this movement existed at all. This is how our culture gets stolen from us and directly turned into corporate profits. Just 'cause warner seems to be real indie right now (laugh, vomit!), doesn't mean they'll be down when punk 'aint selling as much. How many ska bands got signed to big labels who claimed to like the music but then killed the band after sophomore records didn't make the sales mark? Remember Prodigy? They were the next big thing and i sure as hell don't see them on MTV anymore. Korn?

So you may be stoked as hell that A7x will finally recieve the distribution they have been crying for and will have their fake little faces on MTV, but 2 years from now when Warner is exploiting the next trend, these guys aren't going to have a home to come back to. Once you sell this scene out for big money, you're finished. We are not going to forgive and forget.

So i wish AFI and A7X the best of luck with their careers, but frankly they'll never play the punk hangouts in my town again (if they want to leave with all limbs intact).

Call me on my shit, I'll call you on yours.


Anonymous (December 20, 2003)

I'm still in fucking that some kid said they hate Avenged Sevenfold because they are from Orange County and on a major label... Jesus kid, are you in middle school? I don't mean to be an ass but if you are still in the stage where you like or hate bands because they have or haven't "sold out" then you have a lot of growing up to do. Yet this is still over half of the scene out there... Like or dislike a band because of their music... not because they have or haven't signed to a major label. It is an extremely immature view and frankly it is ridiculous. Yes, everyone involved in the punk/hardcore scene at one time has this view but then you grow up and realize it doesn't mean a shit...

thriceequalsgod (December 20, 2003)

"and 2. the whole warner brothers thing"

youre an idiot.

thriceequalsgod (December 20, 2003)

I so fucked myself over for this show. it was sold out, i had a ticket, but i decided to be a dumbass and drink in school the day before and get caught.. bad fucking idea. im pissed at myself..

Anonymous (December 19, 2003)

Avenged Sevenfold would be a lot better if they could stick to one thing- one of their songs sounds like old (i.e. good, 1st three albums) Metallica, then Pantera, then Poison the Well: they're a classic example of how some bands can't handle multiple personality disorder (others, such as the Wildhearts, can)

blaubs21 (December 19, 2003)

FATA is the worst band i have ever had to sit through. absolutely terrible.

Anonymous (December 19, 2003)

From Ashes Rise, From Autumn to Ashes, Showering Ashes, Scatter the Ashes...Enough.

All these bands must battle to the death live on PayPerView. I think we all know who would win. 3 emo bands vs. the Crust Monsters!

Oh yeah, and bands are no longer allowed to put numbers in their name.

Anonymous (December 19, 2003)

I'm a guy and a FATA fan, and I don't care what anyone thinks about that because I'm not trying to be anything. I'm just enjoying music. Anyway, they've never come to my city (no one comes to Toledo) but from what I have read of all their concert reviews is that with Too Bad You're Beautiful they had a great live show, and as time and their new record went on it just got weaker and weaker. I hope they regain focus or something.

Bashing a band just because they have female fans is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard though. Rock on, morons.

Anonymous (December 18, 2003)

You must be kidding you idiot
fata rules? ha

Smashed_Into_Pieces (December 18, 2003)

FATA rules...saw em on the Vagrant tour.. A7X sucks tho sry

Anonymous (December 18, 2003)

i saw from autumn to ashes a while back. and i must say...for a band that SEEMS to have energy on a cd...they sure are worthless live. yah, they were tight and what not, sounding just like the cd, but they had no energy what so ever. it was almost depressing. i mean...they are alright to listen to once in a while, but they could never be a favorite of mine. mediocre at best, very poor live performers. i do have to give the drummer credit though, sure his voice is fairly...lame, but he is an excellent drummer, and not a bad writer either. its just that his voice is a little to "cliche", and that is...he sounds like he's trying to be chris carabba. thats not to say i dont like the band, however. and thats that.


Anonymous (December 18, 2003)

i don't think that FATA sucks in general, but when they give the drummer whole songs to sing (and sing in his cute whiny voice), i throw the towel in

Anonymous (December 18, 2003)

Good review.
However why does everyone hate FATA?
I have heard they don't support their scene and have no ties to it. I personally don't see a problem with this, these guys make music for themselves, not a scene. I don't think I have to be in a "scene" to be punk rock. I live in a small country town, there is no "scene" but I make music that I like and my mates like and that doesn't make it any better or worse than a band from the city.
I really can't stand the elitist attitudes people hold towards bands like FATA. They are doing their thing and should be atleast given recognition rather than being slagged off because they have female fans. Who cares?
Good night people.

Anonymous (December 18, 2003)

FATA..saw them live on vagrant tour, and man they sucked! Hardcore? Nah, just lame ass screamo

mikeinflames (December 18, 2003)

Nora fucking rock hardcore
Getting piss drunk and acting like a mad man is the only true way to experience a band of thier calibire
Then you also get to scare all the little poser girls who's taste of the moment is "screamo" or whatever the fuck they call it
If I was in a hardcore band I'd piss on all the posers in the crowd

FashioningKnives (December 17, 2003)

It was saturday and I was sick that night too, I think it was the Downtown's chicken fingers...

Anonymous (December 17, 2003)

a couple of things:
- was this the show on saturday or sunday? because i went to the one on saturday.
- the bassist in nora looks familiar. and he kept shifting his eyes and looking all crazy-like. i thought it was funny.
- the singer in dearly departed said he lost his voice that morning, but i still thought it sounded great.
- ummmmm
- you forgot to mention the kickass solo a7x added on to darkness surrounding.
- i got sick at this show. not sure how. i had a fever of like 110 yesterday. it sucked.
- yeah thats it. wakka wakka

FashioningKnives (December 17, 2003)

Fuck I am an idiot, **Benjamin Perri**

Anonymous (December 17, 2003)

to the guy below me: you're in idiot. a7x was never a hardcore band. they are metal as fuck. who else can pull off the two part ballad and have the cheesiest lyrics ever and still have the listener interested? you must die, ass.

Anonymous (December 17, 2003)

"I love the little kid who puts down A7X, but finishes with a NOFX song title.

Nice way to ruin any credibility you may have had.
(if you are over the age of 14, you should be beaten."

you're right, i'm actually only 13...that's why i only like bands who are 20 years old and have served a purpose in punk rock but i hate anything new like ultra trendy orange county hardcore bands

i think you've got it backwords, homie

Anonymous (December 17, 2003)

I love the little kid who puts down A7X, but finishes with a NOFX song title.

Nice way to ruin any credibility you may have had.
(if you are over the age of 14, you should be beaten.)

Anonymous (December 17, 2003)

Ive never seen or heard anything so bad these fuckers suck cock and have no talent...BOO HOO cry about it you fucking sissy losers

Anonymous (December 17, 2003)

since when did Benjamin Bratt start singing for FATA

blood_brothers_are_good (December 17, 2003)

FATA sucks live. every single song blends together into one big mess of shit. the only discernible difference that can be seen in their entire set is when the drummer has his "solo" song. and he can't sing so that doesnt make up for anything.

Anonymous (December 17, 2003)

how can you even bother reviewing these bands...they are all so bad...how can i even bother comment?

notfeelingcreative (December 17, 2003)

Giving A7x a slot at a Cautic Christ show would be comparable to letting Nelly open for Dead Prez!

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

one word for anything that FATA has ever done..... mediocre

FortyMinutesWest (December 16, 2003)

Eh, since when has A7X ever claimed to be a hardcore band? Their sound is over the top and cheesy, but they do it well.

And to the person who said FATA's first album was briliant, are you kidding me? They just ripped off a bunch of older screamo bands and watered it down, go listen to You & I and then tell me FATA captured lightning lightning in a bottle. Maybe a lightning bug, but it died a long time ago.

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

One word for Avenged Sevenfold: Weak.

It makes my fucking blood boil when people try to market a sound that has been happily chilling in the dark for longer than these kids have been alive. If this band could play a show with a real hardcore band (like Caustic Christ or Dropdead for example) and come out with their asses in one piece, then I might give them some sort of credibility.


P.S. Check out the cover of Maximum Rock N Roll this month to see your favorite boy toy bands getting their asses beaten in with bricks. (I'm the monkey with the World Burns To Death shirt on.)

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

FATA is on a downward spiral. Too Bad You're Beautiful was brilliant, pretty much capturing lighting in a bottle. The Fiction We Live is just ok, and if they don't refocus on their music they might just go down in flames, because hey let's face it, they've been al about the fashion for some time now.

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

your review sucked because you sound like a 16 year old when you write and because you said from atumn from ashes sucks because girls like them

now you suck too

FashioningKnives (December 16, 2003)

So my review sucked because fat emo girls like from autumn to ashes and because A7X is on a major label..

Thank God you gave good reasons..

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

this score is for the review: if you find me one girl that even knows who from autumn to ashes are i'll be a very surprised man, avenged sevenfold suck for two reasons (and i've never even heard them): 1. they're from orange county (there have been good bands from there, but i'm over it now) and 2. the whole warner brothers thing

i never had a problem with major labels until about two years ago. before then, it was rare for a punk/hardcore band to get an offer and it was generally something to take advantage of. now that punk/emo/screamo stuff is the most mainstream music out there i think these bands need to say fuck you to major labels

dinasours will die

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

"...if they cant handle it like the lawrence arms can"

ya know, TLA are one of the few bands i actually prefer to see when they are highly intoxicated

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

It sounds like Dearly Departed has vocals like Ignite or something along those lines. Avenged Sevenfold pull off a really good live show, too.

FashioningKnives (December 16, 2003)

Well like I said in the review I would be willing to give Dearly Departed another chance, but they didnt show any signs of hardcore in their set..

stealth (December 16, 2003)

2 below me: It isn't the fault of girls, it's the fault of idiots.

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

actually the singer from dearly departed has an incredible voice. he used to be in the band inside nd honestly i dont think he sounds like creed or anything along those lines at all. in fact, i would go as far to say that i think he may have one of the best voices in the hardcore scene. regardless, they played on the wrong bill with bands like fata or avenged. a murder by death or interpol show probably would have been in line with their style.

FashioningKnives (December 16, 2003)

Murder By Death isnt generic, I fucked up and I was referring to the vocals, not the music. So you got me..

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

When i saw Avenged SEvenfold with the suicide machines a few weeks ago I was amazed. They are one of my favorite bands and they put on a magnificent show. I felt that they didn't play enough songs, they only played 5(and only darkness surrounding from sounding the seventh trumpet) It sounds like they played the same set at this show. From autumn to ashes is not a good band. And that is a perfect example of why I hate girls, they suck ass, allmost all, if not all or them are trendy poser cunts, and with that i say fuck.

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

fata is a disgrace to the LI scene

inagreendase (December 16, 2003)

How does a band sound generic and like Murder by Death all at the same time? It's just not possible.

notfeelingcreative (December 16, 2003)

Wow, A7x cancelled their Orlando date on the Vans off the wall tour. I would've liked to see 'em again!

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

yo was this on friday or saturday?
my dad said he passed by and kids on line were yelling out "Go Hokies" or some shit cos of his bumper sticker.

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