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Deftones: DeftonesDeftones (2003)
Warner Music Group

Reviewer Rating: 4.5
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The one thing you will realize from the very first track is that this album is HEAVY. It seems that The Deftones have replaced the quiet mellow sections of White Pony in favor of heavy metallic guitars. Not to say this is a bad thing. Stephen Carpenter still retains one of the most distinctive style.
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The one thing you will realize from the very first track is that this album is HEAVY. It seems that The Deftones have replaced the quiet mellow sections of White Pony in favor of heavy metallic guitars. Not to say this is a bad thing. Stephen Carpenter still retains one of the most distinctive styles in modern metal and I still think that his guitar has some of the most dense and full, yet wonderfully clear distortion. But don't be fooled, these heavy sections aren't just stupid two chord nu-metal chuga-chuga style, the guitars hit you with a metallic thud and then fall back with a melodic shimmering after taste that you can't help but fall in love with.

So now by turning up the intensity while still progressing, it should satisfy fans of the heavier Around the Fur era Deftones as well as fans that prefer the mellow experimentation of White Pony.

The album opens with the melodic, yet tortured "Hexagram" where vocalist, Chino Moreno, screams his lungs out at the end of every verse to the point where you would just like him to stop in fear that he will suffer another vocal chord injury.

The second track, "Needles & Pins" begins with probably the most memorable riff on the whole album and even brings back memories of "Adrenaline".

The first single "Minerva" is a swirling, hypnotic anthem that you just can't help but space out and sing along to.

Track number five, "Deathblow", is a welcome departure from the regular Deftones style and really showcases DJ, Frank Delgado's role in the band by adding interesting effects and samples to enchance the mood that are usually neatly hidden in the background. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's like movie special effects, you don't want it popping out going "THIS IS AN EFFECT", the whole purpose is for it to seamlessly pass you by without you noticing it until its gone, which Frank does perfectly.

The next track "When Girls Telephone Boys" is the heaviest and most frightening track on the entire disc. Chino Moreno screams almost the entire song and its very reminiscent of the White Pony track "Elite" except the emotion is changed from sarcastic arrogance to pure anger which is expressed in the stomping guitar and lines like "And I hope we never do meet again!"

For a completely electronic song, "Lucky You" fits right in, and features beats from Team Sleeps DJ Crook and guest vocals by Tinfeds Ray Osburn. The only problem with this track is that it sounds EXACTLY like a team sleep song when I expected more of a mix between the styles of the two bands like on White Pony tracks "Rx Queen" and "Teenager".

The lush and beautiful "Anniversary of an Uninteresting Event" is the most relaxing and mellow thing The Deftones have ever created. With soothing vocals and a piano floating at the front of the mix, this was a very unexpected song to find on this disc of mostly heavy guitars and crooning vocals, yet it all fits and leads well into the epic closer, "Moana".

Now the question remains, is it better than White Pony? Well, only time will tell if the songs on this album will eventually grow on the listener and become classics like the songs on White Pony. But for now, they are too different to compare. White pony was open and mellow while Deftones is denser, heavier and very claustrophobic as the tracks leave less room for mellow sections. Instead, a couple of softer mellow tracks soak up what's missing in the bulk of the album, which in turn leads to a far less balanced album which is the only area where this album falters.

But when you think about it, the album was probably intended to be that way. Dark and scary yet romantic and melodic at which the band succeeds.

So in short, here's a visual comparison of the 2 albums. White Pony: Violent Ocean waves cascading off of jagged rocks and returning to the calm water under a clear night sky. Deftones: The same ocean waves in a dark post-apocalyptic world and under dark thundery rain clouds.

Don't follow? Then buy the album and you'll see what I mean.


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Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not respon sible for them in any way. Seriously.
contrast87 (March 10, 2007)

great band
new cd is even better 2

Anonymous (November 21, 2005)

Oakland raiders rule!!! chino moreno for president!!!

MrAwesome (July 26, 2005)

yea and anyone who thinks deftones is punk then then need to take the cock outta their ass and try to make an intelligent statement

MrAwesome (July 26, 2005)

wow if u gave this album a 1 youre just plain gay. deftones are fuckin awesome and i will listen to them when im 80 fuckin years old

Anonymous (June 17, 2004)

you so called punks are just fuckin ignorant and narrow minded shit people
deftones is not punk but it´s good

Anonymous (February 6, 2004)

someone said :"the problem is that deftones is not punk and reviewed on a punkrock website, not whether they're good or not. some of you are plain stupid. deftones is okay, yes, but they're not punk AT ALL, thus shouldn't be reviewed on a punk site. if you like them, good, if you don't good. but they're just not punk.
- all of you are stupid"

first, music that aint punk is reviewed on this site, big whoop.

second, by extension of your thinking, there would be a problem with someone who sees themselves as punk liking things that arent punk. Deftones, Warsaw Pack, System of a Down, theyve all been reviewd and though not strictly punk, i would assume they are reviewed because people who come to this site may also find somethiong to like in them. Fuck off you stupid dick.

Anonymous (February 6, 2004)

everybody who likes deftones is subhuman shit

Anonymous (February 6, 2004)

deftones are just lame shit, music for college boys

Anonymous (February 5, 2004)

Deftones love Weezer, they cover Say It Ain't So. Score's for that song. I hate the Deftones, though.

- Fatty "Family Guy rules" Arbuckle

Anonymous (February 5, 2004)

dont care what other people say, I, myself, in the posession of my spirit and soul think they are lame and if a band that I like says the deftones are cool, I dont care, at least I can fuckin think...out of step with the world

Anonymous (February 5, 2004)

i find it funny that all these true "punks" rag on the Deftones, where is if you were to ask any of the punk bands that they worship their opinions on the Deftones, most likely you would hear that they at least respect the Deftones.....or *gasp* even like them even up to the current cd

Anonymous (February 5, 2004)

this is the almighty devildog
to the cocksucker below. I´m working hard (what I dont like to make a living) and what do you do except listening to the totally fucked up deftones and bitchin and cryin around bout your favourit stars?? Go for Britney spears little mommy boy

Anonymous (February 5, 2004)

Im not bitching over whether or not the deftones are good. Im bitching because you live with your mom, get out.

devildog1507 (February 5, 2004)

such a bitchin over such a shitty band

Anonymous (February 5, 2004)

the problem is that you need to move out of your mom's house and stop bitching about deftones reviews. being a true punk like you all are dont you think there are bigger social issues other than whether a cd with 4 or more chords gets reviewed on a punkrock website. I think being punk is accepting the fact that everyone doesnt fit into a stereo typical punk rock mold, some of us live in the real world

Anonymous (February 5, 2004)

Fat people rocking out is funny.

Anonymous (February 4, 2004)

And who the fuck are you to say what should and shouldn't be reviewed? You don't run the site. If you don't like it, fuck off and find someone else's site to waste your time on, or start your own "punk" site where you can be naziish about what get's posted and what doesn't.

Anonymous (February 4, 2004)

the problem is that deftones is not punk and reviewed on a punkrock website, not whether they're good or not. some of you are plain stupid. deftones is okay, yes, but they're not punk AT ALL, thus shouldn't be reviewed on a punk site. if you like them, good, if you don't good. but they're just not punk.

- all of you are stupid

Anonymous (February 4, 2004)

dude Deftones ARE fuckin hippies why the admin did let it happen, that mainly emo bands and mtv bands are reviewed here shows that they either have a broad or narrow (depends on your point of view)musical taste or just anti-punk which means they are fuggin hippies like you deftones hippie sucker

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

we are all losers. i'm glad someone said it.


Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

the person that called the Deftones hippies is a goddamn moron.

gauranteed you're a 14 year old NOFX and Suicidal Tendencies fan.

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

for all the "punk" elitists in this review: shut the fuck up.

go fuck anti-flag in the ass.

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

who cares what somebody else listens to.

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

"I guess I'm just a "loser" because I like punk?"

Id say that like the rest of us on here you are a loser because you waste your time arguing on a message board

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

"everybody loves different styles of music (most of them have a special interest and like a few bands or styles besides) but why is this crap posted here..."

Im pretty sure this is how it works:
1. A person gets there hands on music
2. Said person plays the music
3. said person forms an opinion of the music
4. Said person writes these opinions down
5. said person submits this to punknew.org
6. operator od punknews.org decides whether he wants it on his site or not
7. if it makes the cut we all get to read


Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

No one complains when some jerk off from a punk band picks up an acoustic guitar and records a cd of "personal" songs that gets reviewed on here. I bet if the deftones played the same music and had somebody from 7 seconds in it you guys would keep your mouths shut. I smell the sour smell of elitism in the air and i dont think its gonna clear anytime soon. Whether you deem something good or bad, punk or unpunk, underground or mainstream it doesnt matter. this is not your site

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

"Go in the MTV forum there you can have Deftones, Limp Bizkit fans who surely will become your friends ...."

Thanks for the tip dude but if you didnt notice there is a review right at the top of the page. It would make much more sense to just read that one since we are already here right?

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

"These guys seriously blow...There is no way this belongs here. They bore me to tears...I am truly dissappointed with the site."

I think anything the kid that does this site deems worthy of being on here belongs on here. Maybe it doesnt fit the punk rock way of life of all you silly bondage pants wearing cheap beer drinking punk rockers but if you dont like it why dont you do what real people do when they arent happy about something - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!! Start your own shitty website and review all the limited puke green 7 inches from bands that have been around for 20 years and talk about how it doesnt get any better than when gg allen eats his own shit and sticks the mic up his ass. Or better yet if you are so fucking punk rock get off your corperate computers, move out of your parent's house, sell all your stuff, go live in the woods, grow your own food and kill your own animals. But if you do anything at all please let it be the closing of your mouth (or the nonmovement of your typing fingers in this case)

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

pussy music???

i bet the Deftones tear apart most of the bands on here live...

go see them live they shoud change your opinion, if not your musical scope just isnt all that wide....

either that or you are just a sad scenester

but thats just my OPINION

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

He listens to pussy music why shouldnt he write like an unshaved pussy

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

Why isnt anybody sarcastic on the review writer. I mean deftones definitely make music for pussies. But what is the most interesting thing that the reviewer writes like a heavy metal fantasy lyricist. Dark sky and a jagged sea...dude use toilet paper.

Anonymous (February 3, 2004)

are you being sarcastic dude? if so, i love it!

some1 (February 2, 2004)

what the fuck doesn't ANYBODY have the ability to pick up on sarcasm

everyone is so fucking stupid. I swear. the whole world is idiots.

maverick (February 2, 2004)

Well, it sure as hell ain't no White Pony, but there are some pretty killer tracks. "Minerva" was *incredible* live, too. Totally blew me away.


Anonymous (February 2, 2004)

I know those fucking deftone hippies cos I heard their records when I worked in a record store and they really suck ass

Anonymous (February 2, 2004)

Preach on brotha!!!!
'Bout time somone said something intelligent. Good post PhoqueVolant...

PhoqueVolant (February 2, 2004)

What's with the immaturity here? Deftones aren't punk? Well obviously. Do you feel the need to remind everyone that girls have vaginas too?

Did it ever occur to anyone that perhaps the reviewer just wanted to inform the site's readers of this album, because he thought they might like it? You know, it's called a (big word here) "recommendation".

And Deftones haven't whored themselves to MTV either. Just because a band is in the mainstream doesn't mean they're automatically bad. I bet everyone here listens to some band who's been featured on MTV as well.

I'm also willing to bet that most of you haven't even really listened to this band, in which case you're not qualified to judge them. You can have your OPINIONS, but they're not facts. I don't particularly like the Casualties, but I'm not out trashing their reviews because I DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM.

And lastly, what's with the Limp Bizkit comparison? I can only see two things these bands have in common, which is:

a) They have a kick-ass guitarist (or at least, Limp Bizkit used to).
b) They have a DJ.

This is nothing new.

And one more thing, like I said, you're qualified to your own opinions, but for the sake of not sounding like an idiot, why don't you trying backing them up in the future? A few weak insults don't really make much of a point.

Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

everybody loves different styles of music (most of them have a special interest and like a few bands or styles besides) but why is this crap posted here...

TheEvilMonkey (February 1, 2004)

I'll show you a Limp Bizkit!!



Oh wait, none of you can see me. F-ck.

Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

anti-flag doesnt say oi oi oi???? hahaha. it's really funny how you think i will like limp bizkit because i like the deftones. i'm being sarcastic with the oi oi oi stuff anyway. people on this website are hilarious. why can't you accept that people like other styles of music besides staight out punk? liking one style of music is like being in the same mood all the time. boring.


SOYBOMB (February 1, 2004)

I really like The Darkness, and Andrew W.K.


Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

If you put MTV fuckhead bands here thats what you get

Haggard (February 1, 2004)

"All those loser "punks" who have been listening to the same four chords all their pointless lives, need to get some real music."

There are a lot of punk bands that are more intricate than the Deftones. Do me a favor and don't talk until you actually know something.

I guess I'm just a "loser" because I like punk? Yeah, nice one.


Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

Deftones RULE!!!! However this album though good in its own right, is a bit of a dissapointment when compared to the magnificent WHITE PONY.

All those loser "punks" who have been listening to the same four chords all their pointless lives, need to get some real music.

Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

the streets say oi oi...does that make them punk?

Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

To the guy below. Did the Dead Kennedys say OIoi. They were punk. Do the Briefs. Does Anti Flaf etc. Nope ...dont think so. Deftones..punkmetal...pah you are just a MTV kid. And I dont see giving them place here when there are so much really cool punk bands around that dont get the attraction. Go in the MTV forum there you can have Deftones, Limp Bizkit fans who surely will become your friends ....

Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

According to AllMusic.com, punk-metal ranges everything from G.B.H. to S.O.D.... Unfortunately, this shit doesn't sound 1/10th as good as anything either of those (studio) bands have ever done.


Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

the deftones don't say oi oi oi. i think that's their troubles. either that or they are too ignorant to realize the deftones are associated with punk. maybe a little of both.


Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

even linkin park is better than this shit

TheEvilMonkey (February 1, 2004)

I think I accidentally hit the link for ComplainingBunchOfAssholes.com.

Anonymous (February 1, 2004)

I gave this album the above score just because I haven't heard it yet. I just gotta comment on one little thing here.

The Deftones don't belong here, you guys say? And how many of the punk bands today have been either influenced or associated with these guys? I'd say at least 80%. And unless I'm terribly incorrect, they were on the Warped Tour at one point. Could we just call this "punkmetal" so you pussies can stop whining?

soulbleed (January 31, 2004)

horrible trash. if you want to really know what this album is, it's backpeddling from a band who once had an idea of what they were doing.

Jon_the_Skafather (January 31, 2004)

dude......this isn't even anywhere near punk other than alot of emo shit copies the deftones and other numetal shitheads.

at least elvis costello had an impact somewhere on punk....this is just no where in the ballpark.

Anonymous (January 31, 2004)

Ok, I've never been one to say "oh, this isn't punk, why are you reviewing this?", but come on, this is really pushing it.

Anonymous (January 31, 2004)

to the folk below me. You are right most of the stuff that is reviewed here is not punk and thats a shame.

Anonymous (January 31, 2004)

why is not there a review in the whole of the review archives for Born Against???? Half Mast is one of the most incredible songs i have ever heard.

Anonymous (January 31, 2004)

all people who like deftones are gay mtv fans who like to suck ass.
Death to the deftones.
All hail discordia.

TheOneTrueBill (January 31, 2004)

I waited until I saw it used. I'm perfectly happy to have paid $8 instead of $20

heelturn (January 31, 2004)

it's sad how so many of you slept on this album.

Anonymous (January 31, 2004)

Boo hoo. So its not punk. Neither is alot of stuff reviewed here.


Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

you say the deftones arent punk... they can be, cause oh wait... yeah thats right they did play the warped tour many times before it started sucking

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

right. nothing but rancid should be covered on this website. oi oi oi.


Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

The guy below me loves sucking dick and taking it up the ass

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

this is punknews.org not mtvsocalledaltenative.com. piss off with that stinking fag music

Icapped2pac (January 30, 2004)

This is definitely their weakest album, but that's not saying much since the first 2 were classics and the 3rd was pretty good. Hexagram and Anniversary are by far the best on this one. And fuck you if you don't think this review belongs on this site. Go start your own, whiny bitches.

TheOneTrueBill (January 30, 2004)

I like this, but nearly as much as the White Pony. That one is just amazing

CrankWillDestroy (January 30, 2004)

I used to rock out to Adrenaline a long time ago. Since then I haven't really followed this band.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

i was dissapointed with this one after the greatness that was white pony. i still think i should give it another listen though.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

the deftones do belong here. whoever said they don't doesn't belong here.
i liked this record but it is no around the fur.


Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

Worst album this year. Chino sounds like a crying teenybopper who feels so alone.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

Thought this record BLEW ASS. Awful, waste of my $15. The record just ends, there's no real climax to the songs I think. They're too straightforward at times, imo.

This is the record that should've come BEFORE White Pony.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

Yeah, around the fur is a lot better.

But, for all you people who complain this doesnt belong on the site, just skip it over, no one MADE you read the article.

ThatotherGuy (January 30, 2004)

I used to LOVE the Deftones, and they are one of the few bands in their genre that I still listen to on occasion. Anyone remember when they went on tour with POD and Linkin Park ? I was there, and I got to go backstage and meet Chino, and on the way back I saw the members of Linkin Park, and they didn't have a dressing room, which was no big deal, but when I got to the Deftones room, it was monstrous, and so I laughed. I laughed at Linkin Park. It was funny. Now they've sold out the Toyota Center here in Houston. Scary huh ?


Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

i like the deftones but seriously, i thought this was a punknews.org. i don't think there's any way you can argue that they're a punk band in any shape or form. now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to give this site some credibility and review good charlotte's cd coming out later this year.


Since94 (January 30, 2004)

These guys seriously blow...There is no way this belongs here. They bore me to tears...I am truly dissappointed with the site.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

This doesn't belong here.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

around the fur owns every other album deftones has done

joeg (January 30, 2004)

eh. deftones are one of my favorite bands but this one just seemed a bit lost. i believe the wall of sound effect is an appopriate description for this record (especially minerva) and it works well in some places but in other places it falls flat on its face. this is their worst record but its still got a few gems. anniversary was a nice surprise.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

Fuck this record, I'm reviewing "Around the Fur".


Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

the only deftones cd i really really ever liked was adrenaline. i didn't listen to white pony because i had a sucky burned copy. poop

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

damnit, no i didn't

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

nope, i beat you.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)

great, great record.

Anonymous (January 30, 2004)


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