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The Suicide Machines / Against All Authority: live in Chicagolive in Chicago (2004)
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Reviewer Rating: 4


Contributed by: TheOneTrueBillTheOneTrueBill
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The â??Your Silence = Your Death' tour rolled into Chicago on April 22, 2004. Arriving early, I was expecting the Code to come on first. Unbeknownst to me, Much The Same had been added to the bill at the last minute. I'm sure they're all very nice people, but their brand of pop-punk isn't my favorite thing in the world. Most of the songs hit the dreaded and boring three-minute mark. An interesting thing did happen during their set though. They announced that for $10 you could get a recording of any band's set from the night. Cool!

Finally, they were done and then The Code came on. All I knew about them prior to the show was that they were from Pittsburgh and were on AF records. Not being a fan of Anti-Flag in the least, I was a bit skeptical. They ended being an entertaining band, and I was hooked by the end of the set. They're going places, but still "opening band" material. Case in point: the kids were semi-docile for the majority of the set, but went absolutely ape shit when they covered the Operation Ivy classic "Unity." After buying "Alert Aware Involved" I recognized probably half the album from the set. I liked them.

Ever hear of Against All Authority? Well, they were there too. I'm not a huge fan, but I do enjoy what I've heard in the past. I lost count of how many songs they did, but the set time was approximately 45 minutes. They did an absolutely bitchin version of "Holiday In Cambodia" while replacing Pol Pot with George Bush. Clever. There was a lot of grumbling that they didn't play "Hard as Fuck." Oh well. They still put in a shit load of energy.

The almighty Suicide Machines came on a little bit after 9 to close the show. They had a rather elaborate stage set up with old TVs and VCRs. "Silence" and "Death" were inscribed on two of them, and the other four played montages of 1950s-1960s PSAs about what to do in case of a nuclear attack. Harry Truman even had a speech in there, too. With tension mounting, the screens went blank and then into the Emergency Broadcasting System. The band came out and opened with a scorching version of "SOS." Perhaps realizing that time was of the essence, stage banter was kept to a minimum in the early part of the set. They concentrated heavily on â??Destruction By Definition' and â??A Matchâ?¦' material, with sprinklings from the between albums. Pretty much anything a fan wanted to hear was played, though. Once they slowed up a bit, Jay's banter ranged from praising Roy (the Metro security guard) multiple times, Linkin Park light shows, and the expected political tirades. During the intro to "Your Silence" the AAA guys came out with some extra drums to help Ryan out. This was the highlight of the set, as it is one of the best and most poignant songs the band has ever written. "DDT" closed the set, but after realizing they still had a few minutes until curfew set in, they did a quick run through of "New Girl." It's hard to believe, but they've gotten better in the two and a half years since I last saw them.

A few odds and ends before I wrap it up. When I tried to purchase the live CD I was promised, the Suicide Machines merch guy informed me it was only the first band that did it. Thanks a lot for getting my hopes up Much The Same guy. Thanks.

Set list
Destruction By Definition
New Girl (encore)
SOS(opener)
Break The Glass
No Face
Our Time
Too Much
Islands
The Real You
So Long
Battle Hymns
Someone
Hating Hate
Numbers
DDT (closer)
Step One
The Suicide Machines
Permanent Holiday
Steal This Record
All My People
A Match and Some Gasoline
Burning In The Aftermath
Did You Ever Get a Feeling of Dread?
Keep it a Crime
High Anxiety
Your Silence
The Change

 

 
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Anonymous (May 4, 2004)

Thrice sucks.

Anonymous (April 29, 2004)

I think they play so much off of D by D because that's the only record that a lot of people talk about. I personally like the other records a lot and wish they would play more off of the them, but I know kids would bitch if they did. I thought they were even better on this tour than at Warped which was badass.

Anonymous (April 29, 2004)

suicide machines rule. past the fact that their albums rule and their live shows are almost second to none these days and always have been(third time i saw em was with the descendents in '96..haha fuckers) these guys are some of the coolest, most down to earth people you could meet (who else jumps down from the stage to throw mics in people's faces on just about every song during a warped tour set?)probably only second to hot water music or the bouncing souls. awesome music, incredible shows, genuine people...what more could you ask for? nothin. tsm are proof real punk music is still out there.

Anonymous (April 29, 2004)

"oh and 'i hate everything' is a lame song, it just sounds like a joke rap metal song."

That's because it was a joke intended to be a parody of rap metal. It wasn't supposed to be taken seriously.
Mr. Kenzington

Anonymous (April 29, 2004)

To whoever said that Derek was responsible for DBD being great:
All he did on that record was play drums beautifully, play some keyboards, some 2nd guitar parts, and write like 2 or 3 songs. So with the exception of writing a few fingers of songs, it was all Dan and Jay.
All the songs that Dan and Jay have written over the years are quite awesome. If you listen to The Suicide Machines, or Steal This Record, I can guarentee you that the "poppy" songs you claim suck (which I would disagree with anyway) were written by Royce (i.e.- "Sometimes I Don't Mind", "Stay", "Perfect Day", "Too Many Words", etc.).
As you know, he's no longer in the band, which is why there's pretty much no more pop.
And again, for the record, The Machines doing pop songs is still better than 80% of the crap in the underground scene today, and five years ago.

Anonymous (April 29, 2004)

Can't wait to see this show next friday. s/t is an ok record now, in hindsight, but when that came out...my god i hated it. 2 awesome ska/punk albums and then a pop album w/ no ska. it was a bit much to swallow at the time. now i can get into about half the songs on it. DBD and Battle Hymns are both sick , and yea, their old drummer and bassist were the shit,but their new bassist is no joke either.
A match is really a good cd, but its a bit short and seems like battle hymns pt. 2 which is a good thing but their first unoriginal album which is bad. but who cares , its way to fun of a cd, totally made for the old school fans. Steal this record is also very underrated, I think its as good , if not better than A Match...it may not be ska/punk but its very solid punk tunes and only a couple duds, but hey, all their albums have a few duds.

oh and 'i hate everything' is a lame song, it just sounds like a joke rap metal song.

Anonymous (April 29, 2004)

negate part of that last comment, i forgot derek played on battle hymns, but "i hate everything" still owns

Anonymous (April 29, 2004)

if derek grant had so much to do with writing on destruction by definition, how come the new alkaline trio record could suck the chrome off a black mans rims.
this on top of the fact that battle hymns ruled and "i hate everything" is probably my favorite song of all time. Their old bass player was amazing too

Anonymous (April 29, 2004)

the use of the words "tits" and "cooter" makes me wonder if that post was by a kid that goes by the name Smutty. Just wondering.

Anonymous (April 28, 2004)

The Suicide Machines are fuckin tits. All of Destruction by Definition is tigher than a goddamn 12 year olds cooter.

Anonymous (April 28, 2004)

"Does anyone else think that the suicide machines sound kind of like a cross between a simple plan and hepcat?"

What are you, on dope?!?!?!?!?!?

Anonymous (April 28, 2004)

I'd honestly go and say that "Steal This Record" is my all-time 2nd favorite album. It just rocks so fucking much.
In rank of their albums, I'd go:
1) Steal This Record
2) Destruction By Definition
3) A Match And Some Gasoline
4) The Suicide Machines
5) Battle Hymns

I'm not including The Essential Kevorkian, Green World, Skank For Brains, Least Worst..., or any other shit, cuz many people don't have those.

TSM rocks! You suck cocks.

Anonymous (April 28, 2004)

The only Suicide Machines cd I don't have is "Steal this Record" but I have the "Least Worst" cd that has songs from it and I think the songs are awesome. Especially the song "Scars". I don't see why so many people don't like that cd.........is it because they got rid of the ska?? And I actually think their ska songs on the new cd are better than the ones on DBD.

To me the Suicide Machines seem like one of those bands that people like to obsess over their "old stuff". Just for the sake of following the misnomer that almost every punk bands "old stuff" is somehow magically better than the new stuff.

TheOneTrueBill (April 28, 2004)

100% wrong description.

Anonymous (April 28, 2004)

Does anyone else think that the suicide machines sound kind of like a cross between a simple plan and hepcat? Man I do. Pretty good stuff though.

notfeelingcreative (April 28, 2004)

I don't think the code suck at all maybe much the same and definately the Vacancy, but not the code.

Anonymous (April 28, 2004)

"Bands like the Suicide Machines deserve much more recognition than many of the bands who are unfortunately in the limelight presently."

Yeah, that's true. People give them alot of shit, too, b/c of the self-titled album (which I love!) or "Steal This Record" (which is also great). Plus, the whole "skacore thing" apparently isn't cool anymore, according to the young and the hip on the streets.

Anonymous (April 28, 2004)

AF records does suck pretty hard. the code are shitty, same with much the same. but that other guy was right. NMDS rule hard.

Anonymous (April 28, 2004)

I went to this show in LA and it was incredible. Fairly good turnout too, which was good to see. Bands like the Suicide Machines deserve much more recognition than many of the bands who are unfortunately in the limelight presently. I've never been disappointed in their live show.
Mr. Kenzington

sickboi (April 28, 2004)

Someone PLEASE tell me AAA is playing "Nothing to Lose" at some of the dates...

Anonymous (April 28, 2004)

yeah the aaa toronto show was pretty much the same. with the two songs left out as well, i suppose.

also, next song, is actually a song.

while hte suicide machines were setting up the singer (don't know his name not much of a fan) was handing out bottles of water to a bunch of people and people started throwing them back after a while, with water in them. the singer of the code was around the bassists and someone threw one at the bassist. and he picked up the fucking bottle ran and threw it at the guy and started fucking yelling at him and telling security to get on his ass and shit. pretty funny. just fucking flipped.

loserage (April 27, 2004)

i actually snagged one of AAA's setlists from the des moines show:
All Fall Down
12:00AM (I don't think they played this though)
Dinkas
Wet Foot Policy
Freedom
We Don't Need You
Lied To
Whistleblower
Justification
Next Song (I think this is a note to go into the next song)
Disobey
When the Rain (skipped to I believe)
Just An Obstruction
Holiday In Cambodia
Walking Revolution (was the encore)
Hard As Fuck
Lifestyle of Rebellion

that's how their setlist reads...I'm not sure they went in that order, or played all of those songs though.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

Sounds like the exact same show happened in Cleveland, except we didn't get Much the Same :(

notfeelingcreative (April 27, 2004)

GOd damn, sounds great, wish this tour had come to Central Florida!

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

Oh yeah,
at the Chicago show, they did NOT play "Our Time", but they DID play "Face Values".
Make that switch also.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

"They played "Hey" at the 2003 X-mas show, the first tiume they ever did it without horns. It kicked ass, and I skanked my ass off"

What?
You're so fucking wrong it's hilarious.

I've seen them play "Hey" many o' times when DBD and Battle Hymns came out, and they NEVER had horns with them.
The only time I've seen them play "Hey" with horns was on tour with No Doubt, when Vinnie played with them. They also did "Vans Song" with horns.

maverick (April 27, 2004)

Bill-

Added.

-Scott

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

They played "Hey" at the 2003 X-mas show, the first tiume they ever did it without horns. It kicked ass, and I skanked my ass off

TheOneTrueBill (April 27, 2004)

Hey Scott, Adam, or Aubin, can you add "So Long" to the Suicide Machines set list? I realized I forgot it after I submitted it.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

yeah, AAA played hard as fuck in des moines too, thats weird that they didnt play it there

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

i think aaa should play when it comes down to you and sacaob and vanzetti or whatever that song is called.
and just an obstruction.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

side one dummy has linked up the review. whattttttt

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

HA!
No way in hell they're playing "Hey". I was talking to Dan, and he said he hopes they never play "hey", or "Vans Song" again.
The xmas show in Detroit was the last time you were ever gonna hear that.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

I am seeing them Sunday with the Ska is Dead tour. I hope they play Hey.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

i think the new suicide machines is pretty good.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

Good show.
They also played "So Long" though.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

AAA played hard as fuck at the slc show

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

i thought i was going to be able to go to this show in la, but the dates punknews posted weren't the same as what was actually happening, so i couldn't make it. i've lost count of how many times i've missed the suicide machines.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

This show hits baltimore next week, see you there!!!-oldpunker-

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

Despite Anti-Flag sucking hard, AF Records has very good bands on its roster. NMDS are fucking great.

Timis (April 27, 2004)

"Is it just me, or does it seem sad that the album most represented in the Suicide Machines set list is what, almost 10 years old now?"

its because they lost all their talent...ie d grant who had alot to do with the song writing

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

I agree they should play Kaliedoscope, thats my fav song on the new cd.

Also I notice they played the exact first six songs on the new cd....that's strange, the cd is awesome from start to finish.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

i'm going tomorrow and will return with the setlist. or whatever is etched into my memory.

i was also hoping for more details about the aaa set :(

it's been 4 years since they've come to toronto.

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

You're welcome!

- Much The Same Guy

8dollarclarinetsolo (April 27, 2004)

i would have liked to see kaliedoscope, damn that song is good, and the aaa setlist wouldve been rad to see

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

damn. suicide /AAA and over it/a wilhelm scream playing at the same date in NY. i'm gonna be a busy person that day.

Ramo

loserage (April 27, 2004)

living in des moines, naturally i was at the stop here. it was INSANE! AAA did the Holiday In Cambodia cover, plus an encore cover of Walking Revolution. The Code played their Op. Ivy "Unity" cover here too, that's pretty much when everybody decided that they were alright. The Suicide Machines were crazy awesome as always. The only problem was that they did the TV PSA intro thing with the THX sound test and tornado siren...and it was CRANKED and my ears are still ringing... the awesome thing about TSM is that Jason remembers all sorts of crap from the couple of times they'd played in des moines in the past. Wrapping things up, this show kicked mammoth arse!

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

Is it just me, or does it seem sad that the album most represented in the Suicide Machines set list is what, almost 10 years old now?

maverick (April 27, 2004)

Goddammit, now I'm even more pissed that I couldn't go this or the Des Moines stop of this tour.

-Scott

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

first. oi o

Anonymous (April 27, 2004)

first. oi o

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