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Published on June 11th 2004 A scene from this past year’s spelling bee: “Your word is: ‘Hawthorne Heights.’” “Hawthorne Heights. H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E. Hawthorne Heights.” “That’s correct. We also would have accepted P-R-E-D-I-C-T-A-B-L-E and C-L-I-C-H-E.” Now, see the cheesiness, likely derivativeness of, and overall lame quality of that insult? It’s the same result of effort the band put into their Victory debut, The Silence in Black and White. At least they titled it appropriately; the former suggests a viable replacement for listening to the disc, and the latter reflects just how colorless the album is. To be fair though, the cover (again, appropriately) gives off more of a classic Game Boy-esque puke green. The band *might* be an accomplished quintet of mediocrity in the field of whiny, poppy, mid-tempo post-hardcore if they didn’t have to throw in spare change screams, which are as forced as they come. They could probably come off like a second-rate Spitalfield at least, but with their cutesy little growls end up coming off like a third-rate Silverstein (both bands coincidentally mates on their label). Without even referencing the pop-screamo style, the band suffers in how much they water down the tempo. It’s not even summer but they’ve already broken out the sprinklers. Lyrics? You need to ask? How about winners like “please don’t use my letters to start your fires,” “she cried all night, until the salt from her tears rusted shut her eyes,” and “so cut my wrists and black my eyes so I can fall asleep tonight or die because you kill me.” Time-signature changes…random jazz interludes with a brass section…grindcore drums…I just wish they'd do SOMETHING to differentiate themselves. AND NO, A PIANO DOESN’T COUNT (see “Blue Burns Orange” for a minimal amount of key pushing). They offer nothing new musically or otherwise. This isn’t necessarily “I’d rather get my prostate checked” bad, but…well, then again, at least I can avoid cancer. Hmm…be back in a couple hours. MP3sNiki FM Ohio is For Lovers People who liked this also liked:           Please login or register to post comments. What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
i lovee hawthorne heights!!! and theyre lyrics mean a lot to me, i cant listen to them without crying at least once tho. i love every song they have ever made and i love the screaming in wake up call... i listen to them like every day!! This band is so fucking brutal and hardcore I can't even stand it. There break downs are so heavy. But seroiusly this band sucks. Haha, people are defending this album! This review gives me hope. I think that is so funny how da guy who wrote this have like no ears no music sence and and its so funny like wen they talk trash about really good bands that their song have a meaning... Why dont u just get a life and learn about music and then write about it!!! for all those who are bashing hawthorne heights... you can cut ur own fucking wrists. they rock. lets see your band (even if you have one) go out there and make $10 million dollars and sell out concerts!! you dont know SHIT because YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT HAVE EARS! at least these lyrics accually have meaning! for the kids who are talking about bands like Panic! at the Disco... come on! those kids suck ass and you know it! and why the hell would you go on to a bands site just to bash them?? for the sake of all people... >>>>> GET A FUCKING LIFE!!! To all you sad sad scenesters go listen to some people with talent or originality because Hawthorne is everything thats wrong with pop music. yes i said pop music, deal with it. " And i am sick and tired of those stickers that say, "HEY, DO YOU LIKE THURSDAY AND TAKING BACK SUNDAY????? YOU'LL LOVE THESE GUYS." of course this had that on the cd." I agree with every word. fuck this band . Welll anyone who doesn't think they fuckin rock is a fucking asshole that album kicks ass major ass you guys are just saying that because you've never heard them thanxs and peace out =() fukk if anyone has bought the silence in black and white (original cd) and has the lime green demo that came with it should totally email me at skin_babe005@hotmail.com and tell me what songs/artists are on the demo pleaseeeeeee!!! Hawthorne Heights,no talent,no skin left on wrists, and no balls if i had to listen to something emo it would be Hawthorne Heights. Piece of crap. I know some who looks like J.T and hes coming to getcha!! watch out boys....... Hawthorne is awsome and who ever puts them down...... Hocka-Putooi Shavo says he is the biggest fan EVER!!!! hawthorne is just the best im there biggest fan ever im obessed with them blue burns orange is my favorite i love this cd it was my fav cd all yr better than any other cd ever I can at least stand bands like Silverstein, Bayside, and Emery. You choose to hate because you cant except or relate to HH. I happen to stand by them all the way. I saw them at warp tour and they were amazing straight up. I have the cd and i listen to it all the time. I am not a homo i dont cry when a girl dumps me. ITS JUST MUSIC and you take it too seriously. niki fm holds one of my favorite screams, blue burns orange is great. so FUCK you. lolz! Does John Cusack get royalties every time someone references that scene from Say Anything? He should be able to retire thanks to every shitty unoriginal emo song (and the Bouncing Souls). the only songs i like from them is silver bullet and ohio is for lovers. still, those songs aren't even very good. the album rocks i love it and love the band! these guys are a bunch of copy cats with no feeling. go listen to some of the bands these guys are copying instead OKay ya know what im gonna KICK your ass cuz I love hawthorne heights! my GOD....you're so lucky I don't know you man! dustin golf im a huge fan to and reading these reviews im a huge hawthorn fan and you say there words dont mean nothin well if you whatin choked on something you would no what there saying love this cd. one of my best . listen to them all the time and can't wait till thier next cd comes out this month i think hawthorne heights is the greatest band ever there cd i think hawthorne is the best band ever there hole cd i s good all you little emo kids sitting in your graphic arts class at pennsbury west during c period need to get back work.....slackers. god who listens to hawthorne heights they suck so bad why dont you go listen to some real music....lol....im just kiddin.... anyways hey willie hows it goin? i hope this is the right album cuz i know i asked you like 10 times wich ones you commented on...but i forgot again...so ya i guess ill see you in lunch next period....mmmmm free fries and stolen cookies : P people still post on this album review? crazy... then again, here i am, typing away... this album was alright.. i would rather listen to this then a lot of other things. anyways...to clear up what i scanned through... they do write their own music, the drummer did play drums on the album, their new video doesnt make any sense, the new album is 5x better musically and 2x worse lyrically, carbon copy will do well, ellison isnt half bad, asteria is not very good, this album has not went platinum yet (stressing the yet), the singer is not related to the elephant man (although that would be awesome), and the confined records guy is a huge douchebage. these are facts, not opinions. great cd and great band. their one of my favorite bands and i really dont care for the negative comments cuz everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Pfft. Im actually very smart and I was replacing best with worst you dumb fuck. i don't even care. i like hawthorne heights and you're pretty lame for coming back here to correct that. got hit in the head Worst Band Ever. Worst Album EVer. Worst Single Ever. Worst Video Ever. Worst Fan Base ever. Worst etc, etc. HH isnt "the same" or original. If you want shit music, listen to GreenDay and From First to Last! Oh thats right, people already fucking do listen to that shit! Most of HH songs on The Silence... are more like poems turned into songs, wich is fine with me. Really, no one can talk about how the badn is "shit" because no one fucking cares about your opinion,and it wont change the minds of people who do like the band! But everyone is entitled to your own opinion, so watever. Loved the CD, but not totally perfect. best Band Ever. bestAlbum EVer. best Single Ever. best Video Ever. best Fan Base ever Worst Band Ever. Worst Album EVer. Worst Single Ever. Worst Video Ever. Worst Fan Base ever. Worst etc, etc. Funny how u give it one star YET IT WENT PLATINUM.....fuckin dumbass. "im outside of your window with my radio" Hawthorne Heights has got to be one of the WORST bands out there. Who cares if your gothic boyfriend likes them. Your gothic boyfriend is an idiot. The songs have no true meaning... "cut my wrists and black my eyes so i can fall asleep tonight"... i mean what the fuck is that, thats something a 12-year-old would write because her mom told her to clean her room. They can't scream. The guy can't sing worth a shit. And, also, I've heard a rumor (not saying it's true or false) that they so not even write their own music. Can you say backstreet boys? i luv them and u have no good taste in music To: H/H Although it set in lovly "romance" to most. Hawthorne Heights wrote about topics that were important. we are doign a school report on you guys and you guys are the best band in the hole world i love hawthorne heights they are the best thing right now all me and my friends leason to them and it help me when im talking to my guy friend who loves them to and is goth so it work out in the long run i love hawthorne heights they are the best thing right now all me and my friends leason to them and it help me when im talking to my guy friend who loves them to and is goth so it work out in the long run ha shut up you fuckin scenesters! Omg hawthorne heights is like so freakin awsome i just can't get over that song ohio is for lovers and that song nikki fm!! i love this band! i don't know what yall been listening to but this is a great band! i love hawthorne heights TWO WORDS: FUCK OFF. Hawthorne Heights is an amazing band, and I know there's gonna be fuckers who are going to call me an "emo pussy" which I'm not thank you, because I don't consider myself fucking emo. The Transition is the only decent track on this album. Everything else is just really plain. The video for Nikki FM must be a joke. The video itself is horrible and does nothing for the song, not mentioning the song sucks just as much. this band made me question my sexuality I was so glad to see the review that i saw for this record. I work at Hot Topic, and i see all the little teeny bopper fuckheads buying hawthorne shit. I just wanna yell at them and hand them something good to listen to, or just give em a well deserved smak upside the head. I also have friends of mine... good friends that listen to these guys, and like them. I love em, but when they play niki fm and that stupid ohio song i want to put my beer down, get up, and throw the fucking cd player out the window. I've also seen a couple reviews of people who liek this record... let me ask you a question. WHY? Why and how would you be sucked into buying this shit? Do me a favor, and go down to wherever you buy your music, and grab a copy of "My Brain Hurts" from Screeching Weasel. See if you ever go back... I didn't, and I'm glad I didn't. Why does this band make me want to vomit? Seriously, I keep seeing the video for "Niki FM" and it makes me feel violently ill. The lead singer should not be trying to act. He is so flat--no emotion at all. I would also like to add that from what I've heard, the lyrics are incredibly trite, and in some instances seem to glamorize suicide/self-harm. That's not healthy. I detest the screaming as well. It adds nothing to the music; in fact, I think it makes the music that much worse. I try to be an open-minded music listener--open-eared, if you will--but I don't think I can give these guys a chance past what I've already heard. Does that make me a snob? I love this cd! Personally, I found that the lyrics and beats where catchy. I aslo found that there accoustic is also of great quality. I would recomend this to anyone whos not into "emo", because it is infact that. I've seen this group in concert...and loved there show. calling HH a third-rate Silverstein is an insult to Silverstein. and shit, THEY aren't even great. You people are all insane. This album is awesome! it wasnt that bad so everyone can just get over that cause it wasnt the worst cd i ever heard it was good so everyone who is saying shit lik fuck hawthorne heights can go fuck themselves do u ppl know good music ? lmao there are some fuking stupid fukers who put comments on here this band made me question my sexuality Eh. Its aiight. Michael, Let's start a Petition to Get Hawthorne Heights To Never Make Music... AGAIN Sigh....sad....really sad...so the person below me thinks I've don't know what I'm talking about huh?...lol funny...Actually I borrowed this CD from a girl at my school and listened to it...I acctually thougt it was alright...then everyone started freaking out about it(The time emo came to our school)so I'm like "whoa, there not that good they have some talent but not enough to make me want the CD" so when fuckers like u tell me I don't know what I'm talking about You can go shove it cause I do know what Im fucking talking about...Oh and ur little Punk for life tatoo remark isn't that funny, it's pointless because at least Punks been around longer that this whiny wannabe heavy metal losers we call emo. Like all 3 of the other comments I've made on other reviews, I'm into this kind of music, so I hate to be the one person here that's not tatooing "Punk for Life!" on my arm/wherever. Wow moo...shows how smart you are..."jock metal'..I'm shocked...that wuz such a good remark...I mean really..that wuz preeeetttyyy good...I guess I am a twat...butcha know whut?...At least I don't stick up fer emo pussys...Go to hell emo dick lover. Vaughan - Lmao you are one cool bastard, threatening people for liking a brand of music over the internet. Can I be you for a day.....please?? I mean I usually keep my threats for people when its face to face but over the internet must be the jock-metal way to do things you fucking twat (ahhh so thats how it feels) The fact is that they just learned how to play their instruments last year and you can tell at their live show. The vocals already suck and if youve ever heard them live, HE CANT HIT EVEN ONE FUCKING NOTE!!!! Fuck hawthorne heights. jesus christ all i have to say is, every one of these reviews on here ends up with a bunch of assholes bashing on one or more kinds of music. who the hell wants to hear that their favorite band sucks? seriously... do you guys think you're actually going to change someone elses opinion by saying "your shit sucks"? sorry i dont think so. holy shit. these guys blew me away.....cause they suck so fuckin bad..."Cut my wrists and black my eys".....What the fuck?! If that line wasn't whiny and stupid then castrate me. This band is terrible and can't scream worth shit.....for all of you emo faggot/cross dressers fuck you and I hope you all cut yourselves to death....btw..........FUCK EMO!!!!!!!!! Anything is an opinion. Hell, history is a majority of opinions, because its based on what people think when they record and wrtie the sources and therefore might not be completely true or at least unbiased. You can never PROVE that a CD sucks...everyone has an opinion about a CD and just because you say "this CD sucks" doesn't make me say "ohh...well in that case i'll just stop listening to it...thanks for letting me know cause i used to like it" MD, reivew the reiussue, since you wont give it a 1/2 star and theres no 2nd review, do it. for the last time GC and Simple Plan are gay! I can't stand hearing guys whine about how rich people complain when they are rich. And i'm tired of hearing about 24 year olds singing about how it is to "be a kid". Thank you to TheOtherIvan, this album was predictable but that doesn't make it bad at all...i like this album and many others like it If you'd listen to more than bands like GC, Simple Plan, and Story of the Year, you'd know why Hawthorne Heights suck. I wonder if they'd accept a review of the reissue... 1/2 stars. If HH ever gets a good review, Punk News will be a laughing stock. To agree with the reviewer, this album really isn't anything original. It's standard quality post-hardcore emo screamo whatever. Getting that out of the way, I still like this album. I got this record knowing it really wasn't anything special. I wasn't disapointed, and I was delighted to hear predictable music that I could singalong to and possibly learn on my guitar. Here's a lesson: i like hawthorne heights, they are a band that do something different despite what brian says. hawthorne heights has a cool combination of breakdowns then speeding up and things that don't normally go together paired up, that means the poppy singing mixed with screams. i'm not saying they are fucking hardcore but they aren't as bad as the people here are saying, thats for sure. it makes it an interesting listen to hear how they combine weird tempos and it adds something to it. if brian thinks they are unoriginal i question his sexuality, and the bands he listens to because in a genre defined by screaming a band that doesn't scream so much is original right? It could be a concidence. i doubt its a coincidence that they have a cartoon inspired name and a cartoon inspired song name too Maybe they dont. Family Guy was making fun of how southerners talk... Maybe ET is doing the same and not ripping FG. It should be a crime to say "All bands that have Simpsons inspired names are stupid, but Evergreen Terrance was a good one" honestly there may be 3 or 4 bands that have Simpsons inspired names, plus ET ripps Family Guy It should be... ok fine, i have that DVD too, but just because i was flipping through the channels of The Alternative channel and Fuse to see if anything good was on and HH happened to be on that isn't a freaking crime where the hell did you see the HH video then??? dont even tell me the internet "if i could have 1 band end, it would be hh" Awful shit. other good shows - Tower Records Next Big Thing, The Dive...where the hell did you see the HH video then??? dont even tell me the internet You watch Fuse's program that would show HH. i didn't see the video on Fuse until 2 and a half months after i bought the CD the video hit around the same time as the cd released. still nothing to do with the music Toledo, i'll say something about it, HH is a good band, i bought the CD before they went on Fuse and MTV and before anyone had heard of Ohio is For Lovers so dont say i only like stuff thats on TV You know what that means? you got mad at me for calling that dissing Colin, and u say i started shit with him and it had nothing to do with the music...well what the hell does "fluffing" HH between shots have to do with the music? no actually, there was s shadow of a guy with a hat on, if u actually watched it instead of just seeing a couple second of it and calling it gay mabye u would have seen it, can't wait for your next quote "Emo" is dead since SDRE broke up and HH is yet ANOTHER nail in its coffin. no actually, there was s shadow of a guy with a hat on, if u actually watched it instead of just seeing a couple second of it and calling it gay mabye u would have seen it, can't wait for your next quote and there is some fag with a hat in the video too... pretty sure she grows up in the video and there is some fag with a hat in the video too... HH are just as bad as the bands you mentioned. Simple Plan and Good Charlotte are the gayest things that have happened to rock if u can even call them that, so no sorry i don't like that shit. Hawthorne Heights is awesome and there re-released CD with the DVD is even better. These guys are rising starts. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You HH fans are so obviously like 14. This band blows goats. Deal with it. ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Hawthorne Heights is great!!! They have the perfect blend of meledy and screaming in rock to make them one of the best current day bands! The Silence in Black and White was the highest selling debut album in Victory history, enough said....but ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Hawthorne Heights is great!!! They have the perfect blend of meledy and screaming in rock to make them one of the best current day bands! The Silence in Black and White was the highest selling debut album in Victory history, enough said....but jesus christ all i have to say is, every one of these reviews on here ends up with a bunch of assholes bashing on one or more kinds of music. who the hell wants to hear that their favorite band sucks? seriously... do you guys think you're actually going to change someone elses opinion by saying "your shit sucks"? sorry i dont think so. 5 stars definatley GOD DAMNIT I wish i could kill the person that put " i wish them death " . I know hawthone and Micah would kick your ass bitch. Why dont you say that to his fuckin face bitch. Hawthorne is awsome and one of the best fucking bands ever. Hawthorne Heights is the worst band I've heard of in awhile due to terrible forced shouting, whiny vocals, bad singing, terrible guitars, their mute in the verses, and lyrics so corny and stupid, there funny. While this album is neither original nor superb, it is good enough for kids dying to listen to their next "cut me/ im dying slowly/ oh my gosh my girlfriend no longer loves me" type screamo record. Its regurgitated music of good quality, which emo kids like myself would by whether you trash the CD or not. And for the record, when i use the term"emo", i would be referring to this new mainstream breed. Yay! Another talentless emo-fashion-core band that's entire fanbase is full of fat chicks and 13 year old guys who have This band is awesome! I doubt they are anybodys favorite band....but they still kick ass. fuck you!!! it's pretty pathetic that you would not listen to a band for the mere fact that their style of music happens to be a trend at the present time.Hawthorne heights is a good band. and their some of the nicest people I've ever met there lyrics are compelling and there layered guitar style sounds amazing, your lame oppinion isn't gonna stop hawthorne heights from becoming one of the biggest bands around, so why dont you go back to jacking off in your moms basement asshole!!! fuck you!!! it's pretty pathetic that you would not listen to a band for the mere fact that their style of music happens to be a trend at the present time.Hawthorne heights is a good band. and their some of the nicest people I've ever met there lyrics are compelling and there layered guitar style sounds amazing, your lame oppinion isn't gonna stop hawthorne heights from becoming one of the biggest bands around, so why dont you go back to jacking off in your moms basement asshole!!! fuck you!!! it's pretty pathetic that you would not listen to a band for the mere fact that their style of music happens to be a trend at the present time.Hawthorne heights is a good band. and their some of the nicest people I've ever met there lyrics are compelling and there layered guitar style sounds amazing, your lame oppinion isn't gonna stop hawthorne heights from becoming one of the biggest bands around, so why dont you go back to jacking off in your moms basement asshole!!! i wish i could score this album a zero. but its not even possible. this band is literally the worst "new band" in this trend of shitty ass "emo-core" genre. this is an awesome album. one of the better albums i've heard all year. this is by far the worst cd i have ever heard in my entire life. Reminds me of the fool that gave Silverstein's "When broken is easily fixed" a 1.. Well Brian, these guys are filled with talent, and they are just a great band. Harmonic when it felt right, heavy at the right times. I think the Silly staff is against Emo/Screamo altogether. Whatever... Hawthorne Heights, keep up the good work. if you like blink 182, the starting line, and new found glory, check out this really awesome band Stanley. listen to them at this link: www.purevolume.com/stanley well.. lets see hawthorn heights.. they've got emo, and scream and just good lyrics 10 POINTS!! And I'm sure you all believe that all those hardcore bands with the AWESOME guitar riffs (B-G-D-A, oh yeah we kick ass!), with those INVENTIVE BASSLINES (so what's the guitar playing? What a coincidence, I also happen to be playing the roots of those!) and the ON-TIME drumming (what? 1/2 time?) hate this for it's lack of originality. Thy're not the best band out there, but they are pretty damn good to me, all you guys who think this band is horrible, imagine all the teen ass that this band gets compaired to the old grandmothers that you bastards give it to. My work here is done. J2K ok Brian you need to shut up. they rock but what ever. all i have to say is Hawthorn Heights is awesome. you guys have NO idea what your talking about!! "Blah blah blah....you pussies are just complaining because even though HH isn't the first band in the genre, they make your favorite band sound like the 3rd place winner in a shitty talent show. I feel bad for people who actually come here for intelligent, well-written reviews.....this site is all about trashing pretty much every band that comes out" Its because every single person loves screamo/emo what ever its called. It's all crap. The proper term is "crap." the proper term would be emo-core.... but i love these guys... You are totally wrong. I think Hawthorne are awesome. Nobody listen to this try hard idiot, everyone go listen to it yourself and make up your own minds. just one question for the "individual" who wrote this...are you deaf? hawthorne heights is fuckin AWESOME! you're crazy! this cd is awesome. i love "emo" and i also listen to "screamo". so what if they aren't the first to come out? they sound good and are AWESOME live. u dont know what ur talking about. they rock hardcore! "Ohio Is For Lovers" Hawthorne Heights fucking rules...fuck any1 who says anything different!!! Come on you guys. yea we might have different tastes..but damn hawthorn heights is awesome.. i like emo and listen to that more than anything but its good so get over your self. "i accidentally saw them once, and i think they might've been a sextet. maybe not, but either way, there were too many people on the stage. the only thing i remember about them is they had too many stops/cadences/etc. borrrring!" "i accidentally saw them once, and i think they might've been a sextet. maybe not, but either way, there were too many people on the stage. the only thing i remember about them is they had too many stops/cadences/etc. borrrring!" hawthorne heights are nothing relating to screamo. just because they scream and are a gay emo band doesn't make them screamo. and uh, what the fuck? this cd sucks. 'niko fm' is the only half decent song you guys are all fucking nuts. im from Ohio not too far from were they are from and its fucking awesome and i've heard of them a long time ago you people must not have your fucking eyes open to see how damn amazing they truely are. Their CD took my breath away its AMAZING. and all you people that dont agree dont know what good music is and you need to get your ass off the fucking site. and for the jerk ass that reviewed it THEY ARE FUCKING EMO SCREAMO. there going to complain and scream. so suck dick fuckers Blah blah blah....you pussies are just complaining because even though HH isn't the first band in the genre, they make your favorite band sound like the 3rd place winner in a shitty talent show. I feel bad for people who actually come here for intelligent, well-written reviews.....this site is all about trashing pretty much every band that comes out. YOU ARE RETARDED! i will have to admit that i have only listened to this album once. i know that sometimes it takes a few listens to make a decision, but my first impression was that this band doesnt do anything to stand out. they arent that bad, but they arent that good. i had heard one song online before it was released and it made me want to get the album, but now i guess i am kind of let down. Hawthorne Heights is awesome and you just ripped em up and in your last sentence you didnt make it seem like you did it that bad.. but i think you shoul oughta listen to em again.. Hawthorne Heights is awesome and you just ripped em up and in your last sentence you didnt make it seem like you did it that bad.. but i think you shoul oughta listen to em again.. hawthorn heights was awsome live and the cd is sweet shut the fuck up I love this band.....i heard about yall from a friend and as soon as i head the Mp3's yall had i knew i *had* to buy the Cd...and yall have become one of my fave bands and all i can say is good things about u....yall are the next big thing..i can see it...i wish all of u the best of luck...and i will always be a HUGE Hawthorne Heights fan for life haha wow. i am real suprised at the quantity of negative feedback most of you have been giving. i dont think anyone is arguing the point that HH is unoriginal. i mean how many times can you reinvent the fuckin wheel? i'd give them an 8 b/c i enjoyed the harmonies that most of you tone-deaf mutherfuggers couldnt pick out b/c they are a musically-sound band. but i guess you want something a little more edgy. whatever. i gave them a 10 to balance out all you whiny musically-illeterate tools who cant score an album correctly. to the person waaaay below this who asked about A Day In The Life. This is NOT the same band.. the 90s adayinthelife (all one word) was a hardcore supergroup of sorts from Long Island, New York made up of ex-members of - at that time - recently broken up Long Island and NYC bands. most definitely NOT the same band! I'm sure there's a million bands out there named Day In The Life. "this is victory's worst release yet" It is based on preference, of course, but reviewers review based on their own taste. Of course it's going to be biased, that's human nature. Because everyone has different tastes, reviews should always be specific and in-depth. And while I don't think Hawthorne Heights are good in any way whatsoever, rating it 2 stars and saying "I wish this was mathcore" at the end doesn't really say much. You've got the standard "this is melodic hardcore", but it must be worse than that, because this reviewer likes a lot of pop bands like he this one to be. Because everyone has different tastes, reviews should always be specific and in-depth. And while I don't think Hawthorne Heights are good in any way whatsoever, rating it 2 stars and saying "I wish this was mathcore" at the end doesn't really say much. You've got the standard "this is melodic hardcore", but it must |
