even though i can't consider this "Hardcore" in its traditional sense (ala gorilla biscuits, minor threat, even snapcase and bane) ..this is an amazing cd...i remember when this metal/hardcore sing scream thing started getting popular in the early 2000s only to spawn a number of horrendous and shitty screamo acts...yet this band always stood apart..and this cd is their masterpiece. it is truly original music...i listen to EVERYTHING; Pj Harvey, Bob Dylan, Strife, Children of Bodom, The Streets, to the Descendents and ALL...and this is one of my top 15 albums...its that good.

Salutes.

im glad that ptw has stoped making shitty albums that will never come close to this one. why dont they just make music like this again i dont fucking get why every band has to start taking a dump after they make a great album every fucking song on the opposite of december is the real deal there is no single better hardcore album every fucking song is dope. poser is just some thing u call some one else cause u feel insecure in your own posing if ya got long hair ya push to the side all the time and wear jeans that are to fucking tight then you are just gay not a poser.b real fags

this band was one of the first hardcore acts i got into. sad to see them go, but this album and each one after is cherished by me closely...

I got to watch these guy blow up, the drummer was a senior when I was a freshman.

I think that to anyone who liked it the first time around this album really is timeless in it's appeal. The scream Jeff has on the tracks is a very refreshing contrast between the generic growl and high pitched scream that are both equally present in the recent explosion of hardcore influenced music. Indeed Jeff's vocals are now a lot deeer and I find them a lot less satisfying for this reason. More than that though the whole of the thing feels utterly real, compelling and full of passion and hunger. There is a lot of very contrived music that wants desperately to sound like this nowadays but this is the real deal and I can't imagine a time in my life when listening to this album won't put chills down my spine.

this got me into indie music.

ok people...lets get something god damn straight...EVERYONE...INCLUDING MYSELF IS A POSER...none of you lil shits were born into this music ok? none of you were born into this lifestyle mother fuckers so for those of you calling other people posers...go suck a god damn black cock cuz you're gay

btw POISON THE WELL is the best band alive

For all you people who say you are hardcore are fucking idiots. Fucking this cd was awsome and you know it. Hatebreed is a good fucking band, just because they went mainstream does'nt mean you dont have to like them. It just shows millions of people know them from there music. If you say Hatebreed sucks or any hardcore band now your a fucking pouser and you know it. Your not even considered hardcore if you say some stupid shit like that. Hatebreed is what got hardcore out to the world. Im tired of people judging hardcore bands and saying the music sucks. But when you think about it only a fake ass wanna be hardcore kid would judge the music, because if you were a real hardcore kid you jam out to any hardcore band that gets your mind away from reality and never judge them for any reason. DAM, ya'll hardcore pousers are worse then the kids that call them selves punk. And punk is fucking dead!!! Open your fucking eyes and go back to mainstream pop-wannabe-punk music because you serously dont belong in the underground music. Dont ever judge when your already being judged, fucking pussies.

I really liked 'You Come Before You'...thought it was a great record. I personally wouldn't have wanted PTW to keep on repeating 'Tear From The Red' every 3 - 4 years.

Although I still don't understand why the hell they signed to Atlantic. It's obvious within a couple of years Atlantic will drop them 'cause they aren't selling in U2 figures.

Just think, that a year before this record was released, Refused put out their last album, "the shape of punk to come." God Damnit, that album is what punk and hardcore is all about. And it's sad to think that bands are still desperatly trying to create something close to this album, but just can't seem to do it. The Opposite of December is a decent record, but it just reminds me of how hardcore is digging itself a deeper hole.

Hahaha, I love when people get all worked up over shit like this.

No one is saying anything about a scene, they're saying that when metalcore was fairly new to the masses, lots of different people listened to these bands. Because of this, the shows were more fun, and people weren't acting like assholes (most of the time).

Everybody who commented on this page about the scene and how it is not the same anymore are posers. Fuck your scene and the gay ass pretentious bullshit that it involves. PUNK and HARDCORE have been around when the stooges and MC5 started. Turning into what would be bad brains and minor threat. This 1999 shit, is ridiculous! Why don't you have your mom drop you off at the show and then you guys and gals can stand in the back acting like you don't even like the band your listening to. Then when it is over you can go home to your parents living room and listen to the band you just saw and talk about how fucking awesome they were bra! FUCK SCENESTERS! The purest form of being a poser!

"this is the band for those who want to be hardcore but also want to seem semi-intelligent in punk circles by describing this crap as "classic" hardcore."

No one said this was classic hardcore. It did set the standard for a lot of the metalcore stuff that would come later on, for better or for worse.

this is the band for those who want to be hardcore but also want to seem semi-intelligent in punk circles by describing this crap as "classic" hardcore.

"you know what? when this first came out, everyone who heard it loved it. EVERYONE.

then a million bands like them formed and they all pretty much suck.

but when this came out, everyone loved it."

You took the words right out of my mouth.

"people that don't know anything about hardcore talk shit about hatebreed and terror "

That's a pretty ignorant statement.

Terror isn't a horrible band by any means, but they're massively overrated.

Hatebreed just isn't a good band.

I guess you like Skarhead too?

I hate arty metalcore and macho Terror crap. Hatebreed too.

Fuck those homophobes. Just change your music lable to InsecureXCore and call people faggots and try to hold a mic without a thumb.

People who "talk shit" about Hatebreed and Terror just have a better taste in music than you, sorry.

i honestly don't understand the popularity of this band. i saw them at the plea for peace tour a couple years back. i remember all these kids outside w/ these hand made posters and what not for the band. poison the well were what every one outside was talking about. i was a little intrigued. but then they took the stage. fuck me, they were awful. i seriously wanted to hurt the one guitar player and his ego jerk off metal guitar solo faces he kept making. i just couldn't get over all the kids going ape shit over this band. blew my mind. i have never witnessed a band i couldn't stand more before or since. i just wanted them to stop. i remember looking around at all the other "old folks" up in the balcony and everyone had the same look of confusion and disgust on their faces. i've since seen a video of theirs and i'm still confused. why must they suck so much?

people that don't know anything about hardcore talk shit about hatebreed and terror

people that don't like arty metalcore and that have been around the block know that terror is possibly the most true, real band in the last 10 years

"The shitty weakness of bands like Poison The Well combined with the overt machismo of bands like Terror killed hardcore.

Believe it or not, Victory didn't invent the genre in 1998."

Yeah, they actually invented it around 1995.

Actually, didn't the fans kill hardcore? And punk? And emo? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's your fault. Losers.

The shitty weakness of bands like Poison The Well combined with the overt machismo of bands like Terror killed hardcore.

Believe it or not, Victory didn't invent the genre in 1998.

I second that.

To the guy directly below, you are an idiot. Please don't comment ever again.

poison the well killed punk rock and hardcore, and made it cool to be "cute"

thanks a lot, poison the well for shit bands such as atreyu, 18 visions, and any pussy on trustkill, besides W.O.J. and terror.

great band
i've loved everything they've put out
but i can't say the same for them live
they're a bit of a disappointment live

you know what? when this first came out, everyone who heard it loved it. EVERYONE.

then a million bands like them formed and they all pretty much suck.

but when this came out, everyone loved it.

You mean in 1999?!?! I thought it was SCENE then.

"If this doesn't get you dancing around the room I don't know what will?"

So you do know and you're not telling us or what?

-BSD

Best PTW cd ever. "Nerdy" is amazing.

Score is for the moron who said 'emometalcore.'

Poison the Well are the worst band ever. Fuck their depressed asses, they should kill themselves to express their sadness, not make music. It'd be less torturous for people like me.

no matter how much they suck now, this album was great

this album is emometalcore, you jackass. what?

"its great to put this record on and think back to days when the term "metalcore" didnt exist, and the kids in the hardcore scene werent at shows exclusively for scene points.
"

Honestly, it was a lot of fun back then. Imagine that, people going to shows to have a good time, what a crazy concept.

poison the well = not hardcore.

its great to put this record on and think back to days when the term "metalcore" didnt exist, and the kids in the hardcore scene werent at shows exclusively for scene points.

One of my first hardcore cds, Forty is right it's the only Poison the Well cd you should bother owning.

godammit who put a question mark on the teleprompter?

Well, thats the news. i'm Ron Burgundy, go fuck yourselves San Diego.

If this doesn't get you dancing around the room I don't know what will?

I'm Ron Burgundy?

This band sucks.

I used to love this CD, still good maybe i'd like it more if the production was a little better...you come before you is their best work yet.

poison the well rules live, seriously.

and "artist's rendering of me" has quite possibly one of the most entertaining lyrical hooks in metalcore, seriously.

try not screaming " I COULD, NEVER, SWALLOW YOUR FALSE IDEALS, OF A, LIFELESS, HAPPY ENDING!", seriously.

That was my Saddle Creek phase, and I wish you didn't have to exploit it! I will be silent no longer!

This is good. The EP was better.

I saw BSD at Tower Records buying this, both Coheed and Cambria albums, and a Cursive t-shirt.

The only PTW album that anyone needs.

The Opposite of Decent Music