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  Review by: Aubin See others by this writer ![[staff]](/images/icons/staffsticker.gif){kind=icon}
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Published on August 10th 2004
I'm getting pretty sick and tired. I'm sick of hearing that entertainers shouldn't express political opinions; I'm tired of hearing that actors should stick to acting and comedians should stick to comedy. I'm sick of hearing that musicians should stick to music and stay out of politics. And I'm tired of hearing that dissent is unpatriotic. I certainly don't recall the chorus of Republicans when their greatest president went from making movies co-starring monkeys to the White House. I don't remember them saying that when country singers were stumping for them. I don't remember them saying that when comedians were playing homophobe on their behalf. Well, maybe Fat Mike got sick of that too, and unlike me, he has a record label, a bunch of musician friends, a dog and I think he's having a baby; all of whom will probably vote Kerry/Edwards in November. And I imagine he hopes you will too. Even the apolitical would have the admire the list of bands he has lining up to this end. The first Rock Against Bush had an impressive list of contributers, and one could expect that the second would end up being a collection of leftovers; a B-sides compilation even. But, thankfully, the second volume of the compilation is at least the equal of its predecessor. Opening strong with an great unreleased track from Green Day, and including downright classics like Operation Ivy's “Unity” and Jawbreaker's “Chesterfield King”, the track listing fails to disappoint. The list of strong contributions continues with the inclusion of the Foo Fighters covering the Angry Samoans, the Lawrence Arms crackling track, and a strong donation from the always impressive Hot Water Music. There are certainly some less than perfect tracks, like the disappointing rendition of a Lagwagon staple by Yellowcard, or the inclusion of a few too many previously released tracks, both in the form of album tracks and some fairly pedestrian live versions. These small missteps serve to dull a little of the shine on the disc, though not fatally. And of course, who could forget the lack of a track from Propagandhi, who certainly had something to say (even if they're completely wrong about he causes of the East Asian crisis.) Still, any weaknesses in the music are certainly overcome by a stronger DVD presentation this time around which features a greater variety of material. While the music videos don't really carry as much weight - it's pretty hard to top Bad Religion and Strike Anywhere for talent or political muscle - the addition of a diverse range of political pieces and some comedy sketches certainly compensate for any shortcomings there. Take the sharp and biting “campaign commercial” courtesy of Will Ferrell and ACT which actually manages to be funnier in it's scant few minutes than Ferrell's last film. While this second compilation certainly doesn't surpass the first in terms of sheer volume of material, the addition of a greater variety of music and DVD content certainly makes for an entertaining and fun slice of political activism. Considering that liberals and democrats are often pigeonholed as an opposing bunch of stuffy academics and pot smoking neo-Marxists, Punk Voter's centrist and inclusionary approach is quite admirable. Insofar as the record purports to be “Against Bush,” it is important to remember that the record also stands for something as well; Mike and Punkvoter have managed to unite a diverse range of people into a coherent cause and both that diversity of artists and diversity of opinion is well-represented here. So, despite the kids who think that he should just shut up, Mike isn't listening; he's not listening to those who won't vote, but bitch anyway. He's not listening to the kids who cut and paste GOP talking points on punk websites. He actually did something and put his money and his mouth and his friendships into something he believed in and frankly, what is more patriotic than that? People who liked this also liked:           Please login or register to post comments. What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
holy shit! i can't believe you americans. america doesnt do nearly as much as canadians do for other countries....except maybe bomb them if thier opinions are different then yours. plus,canada has produced some great bands, like SNFU,NOMEANSNO,the Weakerthans, and alot of other great bands. And oh yeah,ever heard of Mike Meyers,or Jim Carrey, or Pamela Anderson? Their all Canadian. ummm.... yeah yep we hate bush rah rah rah, A BOAT TRIP IN IRAQ ON A REGULAR SUNDAY AFTERNOON "It is our business, when we have another world war in the future, it is OUR business." Before anyone on here begins to criticize this country (Canada), stop for one second and open up your eyes. Only state your opinion with reason. A whole lot of you haven't learned a speck of Canadian History or Canada in general, and it's most likely you know very little about your own country. It is our business, when we have another world war in the future, it is OUR business. "wow they really out did themselves on the cover art comparred to the last rock against bush. WOW ORANGE!" "I say we put Danny Devito in office, he'll settle these conflicts in ways previous presidents couldn't...One visit with a baseball bat and we'll have ourselves a peace treaty." All I have to say is this entire discussion is pointless. I've been a citizen of the US, Canada, and Poland over the last 18 years of my life. No matter where I go its the same thing, attack people with slightly different trains of thought. No matter where you are, no matter what point in time it is on the history of the Earth, there was always a government manipulating you. Thats what the government is, the business of controlling your thoughts, and a profitable one at that. It lets the rich get richer and makes the poor poorer, no matter what country your in, you might not realize it but your government is taking advantage of you, any human when given that much power is bound to abuse it. In the case of the United States presidency, its just trying to vote for the lesser evil. I say we put Danny Devito in office, he'll settle these conflicts in ways previous presidents couldn't...One visit with a baseball bat and we'll have ourselves a peace treaty. wow they really out did themselves on the cover art comparred to the last rock against bush. WOW ORANGE! NO MORE PRESIDENTS!!! VOTE NO! VOTE NO! VOTE NO! canada sux! a-boot EH! "id rather my government be a hippy then a fucking theif" Despite the poor grammar and spelling this guy nailed it on the head with this line: "Lousy, mooching war widows..." i only take political advice from people who spell sucks as "sux", so i guess this year i will just go ahead and vote NO......um...NO on prop 284...the one about widowers of war veterans....fuck...what was that from? simpsons? Canadians don't do shit. They just sit there drinking thier beer and watching their Hockey games and say "a-BOOT" and "eh" a lot. Thier opinion is just about as useless as thier "army". There just a bunch of tree hugging hippies up there. "WE LIVE IN CANADA AND 75% of OUR POPULATION IS AGAINST BUSH OR HIS REPUBLICAN COMPANY, ARE WE JUST IGNORANT NEIGHBOURS?" "Actually john kerry, if you would have read the print a little better you'd notice that i said i was canadian, and if you dont know what fucking canadian means, i'll make it a little clearer, I LIVE IN CANADA. and ill tell you something, we do a hell of a lot more for other countries than your country does, and a hell of alot more is given away freely. And if you think that any country that doesen't start wars for "weapons of mass distruction" that don't even exist but take their oil instead is a hippy country then maybe we fucking are but id rather my government be a hippy then a fucking theif. dont try and tell me that it wasen't the reason for the invasion of iraq. YOU LIVE IN THE US DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE COUNTRY'S MEDIA IS NOT SENCORED OR BIAS? WHO OWNS THE NEWSPAPERS MY DEAR? think about that one john. WHILE YOUR AT IT IF YOUR SO PRO-WAR THEN WHY DON"T YOU GO JOIN THE ARMY? OH AND BY THE WAY, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE WEAPONS KILLING AMERICANS IN IRAQ WHERE ACTUALLY GIVEN TO THEM BY AMERICANS? obviously i love the People of America i just dont believe in their government. Actually i hate their government. Hey and G.W.Bush JR. aint the only one making decisions." "Actually john kerry, if you would have read the print a little better you'd notice that i said i was canadian, and if you dont know what fucking canadian means, i'll make it a little clearer, I LIVE IN CANADA. and ill tell you something, we do a hell of a lot more for other countries than your country does, and a hell of alot more is given away freely. And if you think that any country that doesen't start wars for "weapons of mass distruction" that don't even exist but take their oil instead is a hippy country then maybe we fucking are but id rather my government be a hippy then a fucking theif. dont try and tell me that it wasen't the reason for the invasion of iraq. YOU LIVE IN THE US DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE COUNTRY'S MEDIA IS NOT SENCORED OR BIAS? WHO OWNS THE NEWSPAPERS MY DEAR? think about that one john. WHILE YOUR AT IT IF YOUR SO PRO-WAR THEN WHY DON"T YOU GO JOIN THE ARMY? OH AND BY THE WAY, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE WEAPONS KILLING AMERICANS IN IRAQ WHERE ACTUALLY GIVEN TO THEM BY AMERICANS? obviously i love the People of America i just dont believe in their government. Actually i hate their government. Hey and G.W.Bush JR. aint the only one making decisions." No more presidents! VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! I wish musicians would shut up about the election, we all know florida is gonna rig it again. sure bush is an "idiot son of an asshole" but over the last 4 years he's said some pretty funny things. they have a daily callendar about it. he did screw up the country but john kerry has the gayest most borin ass speaches ever."things need to change" HUH? NO!!!wow howmany hours did it take you to think up that? any way ya think about were skrewd punks were never "artists" jackass. thats what they want you to think now. they want to try and make people now think that the movement then was respectabe. but fuck that. they werent artists. they were tired of long songs and wanted to do a little bit of fucking. "So if you fucking buy this CD, ur not doing shit except basically just giving ur money to some greedy rich white guy" does he make people calll him fat mike , like the miestro (spelling?) lets here it for us rich white guys. i mean come on..would you really want someone like the guy below me running the government or putting his two cents in? fuck that. he sounds like a moron who would be worse than bush. Im an Atheist by now when it comes to what political party I'm for. I don't believe in any of this political shit because the system doesn't work. The government is run by rich, old, greedy white guys. "we" the people doesn't exist anymore, its only "they", the rich, powerful, greedy white guys. So these bands can bitch and complain all they want, but its just another bullcrap excuse to produce another record to make money off of. "Where have you seen Mike endorse Kerry? I can answer that: You haven't. Ever." Who the Fuck is Yellowcard? I bet $100 that who/whatever the fuck a Yellowcard is, it can be purchased at Hot Topic. I find it a bit funny that some Canadians will bash Fox News, yet they don't even carry it or have satellite that would enable them to watch it. Then will go off and watch a movie like "Outfoxed" and say how evil the station is. its not a republican news channel, but yes it does host a couple republican shows. the actuall news is more on than all of the other networks. Ever heard of Media Control? Media Carta? "Very intelligent response I must say... how are we ignorant?" Canada, they won't even carry the foxnews channel Very intelligent response I must say... how are we ignorant? "WE LIVE IN CANADA AND 75% of OUR POPULATION IS AGAINST BUSH OR HIS REPUBLICAN COMPANY, ARE WE JUST IGNORANT NEIGHBOURS?" I would like to know what they teach you Americans in high school social studies and history classes. "republicans are more truthful in general" GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS Does Edwards strike anyone else as an ex-car salesman? "Conan, I think, is a republican. He has republicans on his show all the time and is friendly with them, then treats Michael Moore like shit. Besides that, these talk shows are being pressured to be as apolitical as possible. " I'd like to note that 95% of the people on this site come here for Yellowcard updates, so I'm sorry if I was mistaken. yeah bsd, no where does his post even imply that the sex pistols were still together in 84. it was just one of those, "i'm more punk than you cause i knew the sex pistols before you" posts that he was making fun of. IRONY - A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. Yo, I'd give Fat Mike head for a copy of this. And I don't even like NOFX that much anymore. Just 'cause he can't quote Choamsky out his anus and has a weird voice and beer belly doesn't mean his opinion is uninformed. what time are you referring to that i said someone was wrong? "you just said that basiclly everyone on this posting was an idiot because their not open minded, how are they not open minded?" not to mention i don't say to someone that their wrong unless i can prove it you just said that basiclly everyone on this posting was an idiot because their not open minded, how are they not open minded? ok...who was the last person i called an idiot. i dont really remember, but i usually say why or it is inherant to the post... if you were a little open minded steve maybe you'd have something to back up why the people you call idiots are idiots haha...i'm not even that far to the right. anyway, i am very tolerant. i am more tolerant than anyone on this board i think. everyone here is pretty closed minded when it comes to religion and politics. Steve Jones, you're an idiot. People want to be punks so they have a social scene to be part of and have reasons to actually wake up in the morning. I mean, maybe hanging out with your friends isn't as cool as being a rightwing bigot on music message boards, I don't know, I've never lived like that. "ALL POLITICIANS ARE LIARS" Yeah but you think the Sex Pistols were around in 1984, which makes your musical opinion worthless. hahaa..its good to see someone on here calling john kerry an idiot, even if it isnt the real john kerry. and whats a canadian? its a kind of pig or something right? i am from canada and it is a democracy-completely separate from the English the only thing conected to the democratic-monarchy....notice there's democratic in there....is that the queen chooses a governor general. whos name goes on a seal. we are also celibrating democracy. Haven't you studied the French and English Revolutions and not just the American Revolution? This score is for the greedy rats that take advantage of our society and the freedoms we have and take for granted everyday. It's also for the people on this message board who don't value or respect others opinions on this message board. (I.E. - "the poster below sucks, i fucked said poster's mother, or "I am the ultimate definition of punk because I knew who the sex pistols were back in '84, therefore, said poster below's opinion is worthless and he is not punk, " and the definitive "FUCK YOU" There are some really solid tracks on this cd, and just because they don't support bush doesn't mean you shouldn't like them. I myself don't agree with their cause, so i won't purchase the album, but the cd itself is pretty alright. Actually john kerry, if you would have read the print a little better you'd notice that i said i was canadian, and if you dont know what fucking canadian means, i'll make it a little clearer, I LIVE IN CANADA. and ill tell you something, we do a hell of a lot more for other countries than your country does, and a hell of alot more is given away freely. And if you think that any country that doesen't start wars for "weapons of mass distruction" that don't even exist but take their oil instead is a hippy country then maybe we fucking are but id rather my government be a hippy then a fucking theif. dont try and tell me that it wasen't the reason for the invasion of iraq. YOU LIVE IN THE US DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE COUNTRY'S MEDIA IS NOT SENCORED OR BIAS? WHO OWNS THE NEWSPAPERS MY DEAR? think about that one john. WHILE YOUR AT IT IF YOUR SO PRO-WAR THEN WHY DON"T YOU GO JOIN THE ARMY? OH AND BY THE WAY, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE WEAPONS KILLING AMERICANS IN IRAQ WHERE ACTUALLY GIVEN TO THEM BY AMERICANS? obviously i love the People of America i just dont believe in their government. Actually i hate their government. Hey and G.W.Bush JR. aint the only one making decisions. "maybe we could afford medicare if we didnt have to give the rest of the world free handouts. also, they werent able to tear our world apart. also, did you realize that the united staes is much much much much much much much much much much much much larger than your country? things get a little more complicated then when trying to have free medicare. especially with the democrats trying to give everything else away for free and all the people trying to move into the US. what country are you from? i'm sure i would rather live here than have medicare in a socialist fuckin hippy community. People. i am not the answer, i am part of the problem Fuck your nationality! "he loves COCK but he hates homosexuals" is the line fat mike said on Conan, taken from the latest version of idiot son of an asshole and put into the break in franco unamerican oh. we arent the richest country in the world...i think luxemburg maybe, one of the euro countries is...but they are tiny maybe we could afford medicare if we didnt have to give the rest of the world free handouts. also, they werent able to tear our world apart. also, did you realize that the united staes is much much much much much much much much much much much much larger than your country? things get a little more complicated then when trying to have free medicare. especially with the democrats trying to give everything else away for free and all the people trying to move into the US. what country are you from? i'm sure i would rather live here than have medicare in a socialist fuckin hippy community. People. i am not the answer, i am part of the problem do you really want to hear something crazy? Your the richest country in the world and you cant even give your people medicare. did you everthink that 911 was making a point to the government of the United States? Maybe it was to prove to you guys that people don't need weapons of mass distruction to tare your world apart. the weapons of mass distrution are mostly all in your country anyhow. and those who had weapons of mass distruction, your country gave it to them. but they don't need your help all they need is a few people to fly planes on a suicide mission. I'm fucking proud to be a Canadian. I hate my government and all it's allies for not stoping Bush in Iraq of anyother small war he's caused. "hey guys lets let bush take all the oil, give him a little more change in his pocket" and to the media, the war in iraq isen't the biggest thing going on in the world. What about the aids epidenmic in Africa where 1 in 5 people are infected because the pope has managed to warp their minds into thinking its a sin and they will go to hell and its useless anyhow. what about the HOlicost type thing going on in sudan and because the US is at war its able to go on unnoticed? Iraq is not the biggest thing going on in the world.but u probably dont know this and neither does anyone else. Think about it, in africa someone dies everycouple minutes. in Iraq someone days maybe once a week. do the math. what's more important. The Dillinger Four track rules. why would anyone in their right mind want to be punk? Um, this should be old fuckin news by now, but Conservatives will never be punk. " This issue is something we're going to spend our entire lives dealing with if nothing is done now.... Military personnel risk their lives every day so we can live comfortably in this country and have the freedom to bitch about things like politics" this score is for the lawrence arms, if they have ever written a bad song, i am yet to hear it "whose penis would become president? the longest or the thickest ? or overall volume?" no - I'm a 45 year old balding man who gets off posting in message boards what are you...13? I plan on writing in "my penis" for president instead of voting for anyone else listed on the ballet - wouldn't that be awesome if a whole bunch of people wrote in "my penis" for president and "my penis" won bsd is just jealous cause he's not old enough to vote. its ok buddy. in four years there will be another presidential election you can vote for. Really, you're all cowardly little cunts. Based on the way most of you write, I automatically feel inclined to ignore your opinions. I'm not saying most of you are dumb. Instead, I'm saying most of you are seemingly uneducated in some of the basic necessities of living normally. When I read "fuck bush that faggit fuck sux his moms kunt, their is know way im voting 4him," you've done a lot to convey your opinions. Oh wait. Re-defeat the monkey yes, please, everyone go vote for who you think is more punk. awesome. great Oh yeah, and about punk rock values you spoke of, I dont know how old you are, but I've been listning and going to punk shows for about 20 years now, and it used to be about getting fucked up and breaking shit. Not "who you gonna vote for", or save the fucking seals or some stupid shit like that. "Sure, thousands may lose jobs, and I'm not making light of that. Most of them will find other jobs. " Kerry = 70 year old Max Payne I joined to come fight this war, unlike you, who apparently couldn't get a civilian job or something. You are not in the same boat as me. Apparently it was my country not yours attacked. to the guy below me, look man...I'm in the same boat you are and no dude, you don't risk your life for this country, you risk your life for your job. If you don't do your job, you go to jail so you really don't have much of a choice. "So if an American industry is making money, then we should outsource to cut they're profits?" I,m in Iraq right now, so I haven't heard this album. I just wanted to comment on all this political talk. First, no one should need some musician or actor to tell them their opinion, wich seems to be to much the case. ok. if you think molesting an overweight 65 year old woman is clever. haha..my mom is probably pretty happy to have gotten a young piece of ass. score . and uh, how desperate are you to go for someone like my mom anyway? "kerry looks like a down syndrome child molester. i think him and grey davis molest little boys and john edwards together" haha...a dude said bush was ugly...as if kerry was good looking. kerry looks like a down syndrome child molester. i think him and grey davis molest little boys and john edwards together I think Bush is more of a punk than the person who commented below dude, what the fuck? I can't believe you would even want to question this election, who cares if Kerry is so so...Bush is responsible for so much bullshit. Not to mention he's ugly. DO you wnat that guy representing YOU? I'm going out on a limb here and I'm just going to say it. I'm not going to read all these comments because for SOME reason they're about politics instead of this compilation album... "yes, because the prescription drug companies don't make enough money already." " I'm still voting for Bush. Screw Iraq... their own government will kick our troops out soon enough. I would rather have a president who supports my views back home. And yes, I am religious" You dudes should all do yourselves a favour and head to Australia for a holiday. It'll open your minds to the wonderous ways that people can live harmoniously together in society without all the fear and hatred that your country seems to love spreading. KERRY: “George, I said at the time I would have preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity, but I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the President made the decision, I supported him.." former coke head, big business supporter, hardcore christian, republican, war monger yes, because the prescription drug companies don't make enough money already. How on earth can you get off as saying that Kerry supports the middle class? If anything Kerry "supports" the lower class. However, I would contest that he, or any other president (aside from maybe FDR during the depression) cares about the poor in America. There have always been programs from both sides that attempt to throw lifejackets to those who need the help, yet so often it is ignored. Then people complain about those who abuse it. 99.5 percent i am fucking around. The Green Day song is awesome, so is the Larry Arms song. The Lagwagon song is really cool. Will Ferrel is one funny dude. And it was nice to see the little paragraph that Blake from Jawbreaker wrote in the liner note. Does anyone know what's going on with that guy, or Jets To Brazil for that matter? I know I'm not the only one hoping for a Jawbreaker reunion... Nice tirade, but Clintion News Network is not fair and balanced. only about three of you motherfuckers no what you're talking about when it comes down to politics. 99.5 percent of the time you idiots go on rants that you don't know shit about especially jones the bones and bsd, I hate bitching, but watch some CNN or NBC before you guys go on your next ignorant rant. This goes out to everybody, stop listening to everything fat mike says go out for yourself and find the information out on the two candidates and pick the one that best suits your beliefs and your way of life whether it be Bush or Kerry. I was at a local show around where I live the other day and this band which was made up of young kids about 16 years old and three of them were wearing NOFXFAT WRECK CHORDS shirts started talking about how Bush had no idea what he's doing and that everybody should vote against him which led me to believe these kids had not the slightest idea what they were talking about. So to all you ignorant kids, next time you're about to go on one of those ramblings, think to yourself is what I'm about to say a load of bullshit. "and deporate those illegal bastards, they are the ones stealing jobs" except that kerry isnt for the middle class and is against buisness of all kinds. No offense here, and I may be missing something, if your name isn't steve, then why do you have an email address with the name "steve" in it? except that kerry isnt for the middle class and is against buisness of all kinds. kiss your ass goodbye if you are a small buisness owner. and to that other dude, get a clue about this shit. call me jones the bones, my names not steve I've got friends who are coke heads, I hope they don't "find god" and become president, THAT would be fucking scary. former coke head, big business supporter, hardcore christian, republican, war monger wow steve jones, you're a fucking moron. everyone fucking hates you and your increasingly stupid posts. go back and post on absolutepunk full time you unoriginal piece of shit. I am displeased with Bush and Kerry "Just one quick correction for the poster below: Fat Mike doesn't, and never has, endorsed John Kerry. In fact, campaign laws restrict Punk Voter from advocating a Presidential candidate. Where have you seen Mike endorse Kerry? I can answer that: You haven't. Ever." I'm an idiot? i would vote for kerry if he could play 'memphis will be laid to waste' on his acoustic i wonder is bush/cheney would endorse a cd with christian hardcore bands on it. "Hating Bush is too trendy for me." |
