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Further Seems Forever

Further Seems Forever: Hide NothingHide Nothing (2004)
Tooth & Nail Records

Reviewer Rating: 3.5


Contributed by: TheMarcTheMarc
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In the five years that I worked at a grocery store, I had the opportunity to hear some of the most annoying questions ever asked. Not a day would go by when I didn't hear someone pose a question like "Where did my car go?" or "What store am I in?" Customers would come in during the overnight shift.
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In the five years that I worked at a grocery store, I had the opportunity to hear some of the most annoying questions ever asked. Not a day would go by when I didn't hear someone pose a question like "Where did my car go?" or "What store am I in?" Customers would come in during the overnight shift drunk as hell and vomit on the floor. The worst was when a broken fire alarm went off for 5 straight hours. However, as high as the level of irritation was in my short career as a cashier, it all pales in comparison to being the lead singer of Further Seems Forever.

You've all probably heard most of the history of this band by now. If you haven't, I suggest reading this, then this, followed by this, and just for the hell of it, play this. That'll save a bunch of space, and bring us to August 24th, 2004, where Tooth & Nail's most popular band released its third full length album "Hide Nothing", featuring their third lead singer in Jon Bunch from the now defunct Sense Field.

It wasn't too long ago that ex-vocalist Jason Gleason constantly had to field a high multitude of queries pertaining to the whereabouts of Chris Carabba. Imagine being Jon Bunch; not only does he have to sing songs that he didn't write, but he has to sing songs from two different vocalists as well. Whereas Gleason had a long time before releasing an album worth of his own songs, Bunch at least has his own album out relatively quickly. And wouldn't you know it, it's not that bad. Fans dreading a drastic turn for the worse, fear not: This is still a Further Seems Forever album, and many of the band's familiar characteristics remain in place once again. Tempos change, guitars swirl, and dynamics shift from a dull roar to a soft rumble seemingly at random. The title track may be the band's greatest song since "New Year's Project", as Bunch delivers with fantastic vocals over one hell of a rock song. I must've listened to "Light Up Ahead" at least 20 times now, and I'm still singing it in my head. Anyone who doubted Bunch's ability to live up to Further Seems Forever's past work should be pleasantly surprised with this disc. However, if this album is guilty of anything, it's that some songs seem to borrow too much from the singers of the past. "Like Someone You Know" could've come right off of "How to Start a Fire", Gleason's vocals included. At many moments, it's hard to tell if the band was trying to branch out into new territory, or make a carbon copy of their last album with a new singer. If you can get past that, "Hide Nothing" is a great record, and presuming Bunch sticks around, their next album will probably be even better.

I've always maintained that Further Seems Forever has the best dynamics of any band of the genre, and James Paul Wisner (Dashboard Confessional, Gatsby's American Dream) does a fantastic job of creating a very gentle atmosphere at times ("Already Gone", "All Rise"), and then when it's time to get loud, songs like "Make It A Part" deliver with force. Lyrically speaking, topics remain very positive and hopeful, and in a maneuver that will genuinely upset at least 5 readers, the word "Lord" is used several times in "For All We Know".

If you go to see them live, it's very likely that two things will happen. One, someone in the crowd will undoubtedly yell, "Why aren't you Jason?" or "Are you in Dashboard Confessional?" And two, you might find yourself saying to your friends how badly Jon Bunch sings the old Further Seems Forever songs. However, there is no denying that he has made the band his own now, and he's got a solid album to prove it.

 

 
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Anonymous (December 15, 2004)

"make it a part" is such a great song.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

ha...no hockey now, jackasses!

Anonymous (September 9, 2004)

ok for everyone who is saying that fsf is the same as all of the other shit out there, you obviously know nothing about music. for example let me explain "punk" or "emo" to you. musically that is...... a 4 or 5 chord progression either really sped up (punk) or drawn out in the case of emo. now fsf musically is amazing. just take an actual listen and uncover alot of the 5/4 timings and the beautifully layered guitar tracks (mostly finger picked) and creativity this band posses musically. and if you do play the guitar or bass try to keep up with this and im sure it will take you lots of work. and the drummer holy shit. thats all i can say is holy shit. i sure as hell liked how to start a fire the best, but this album in my opinion holds up just as well.

Anonymous (September 7, 2004)

also, the soundtrack to the passion of the christ is instrumental, thus listening to it wouldn't actually have anything to do with god, other than an association in name. You'd get nothing godly out of it.

Man you suck.

Anonymous (September 7, 2004)

"If i wanted to listen to an entire album about god, i'll just pop in the soundtrack for the passion of christ. "

You know what is just utterly hilarious? I dont hear people commenting on this site stating "If I wanted to listen to an entire album about Politics, I'll just pop in Michael Moore".

Religious discrimination is still discrimination regardless of what you believe."

That would actually be very difficult to do, you very stupid person, because Michael Moore doesn't have an album for you to listen to.
Maybe before you try to make a point, you should make sure you can actually support one.
Besides, if you believe in Jesus then you're fucked anyway, pinko!

theevilmonkey (September 6, 2004)

Pats 27 - Colts 17 on Thursday

theevilmonkey (September 6, 2004)

This score is for my last post which should have had a score of 10.

theevilmonkey (September 6, 2004)

This score is for MVP Baseball 2005 on Xbox Live next year. This score is for NFL 2K5, NHL 2K5, NBA 2K5 and everything else 2K5 being sold for 20 bucks.

This score is for Halo 2 which will destroy the world on Novermber 2nd. It's also for GTA: San Andreas, which will destroy your life so that you'll have to rob someone else of their life to live to play Halo 2. If that's not enough for you, all the Star Wars films come out on DVD on the 21st of this month.

Not enough? The Nintendo DS is coming out sometime in the next Season, the AL East is actually a race again and Mark Prior will be the downfall of the Cubs and lead to the evil Barry Bonds becoming the inevitable MVP and propelling his team to a Wild Card Berth where they will undoubtedly lose in a series that the Florida Marlins should have been in the whole time.

Scott Rolen owns all of you.

Anonymous (September 6, 2004)

new singer is a power tool

Anonymous (September 6, 2004)

jason come back fast!!!

Anonymous (September 4, 2004)

b-b-b-blows

Anonymous (September 4, 2004)

no you don't

Anonymous (September 3, 2004)

i want to hear this

Anonymous (September 3, 2004)

"If i wanted to listen to an entire album about god, i'll just pop in the soundtrack for the passion of christ. "

You know what is just utterly hilarious? I dont hear people commenting on this site stating "If I wanted to listen to an entire album about Politics, I'll just pop in Michael Moore".

Religious discrimination is still discrimination regardless of what you believe.

FortyMinutesWest (September 3, 2004)

Yeah, we'd just pick up any Czech player we could. We ended with slugs like Beranek and Dome. An especially brilliant pick up was Roman Oskiuta, who ended up with an eating because everyone kept calling him fat.

Hlinka didn't really a commitment to staying in the NHL, otherwise, I think he would've bothered to learn english. But, he's a god in the Czech Republic.

Looks like the US is scratching Hull, Conroy, and Rolston for the next game, should be a wake up call.

Anonymous (September 3, 2004)

Remember when we were the Czech national team? Hlinka as coach (and didn't speak english) plus hrdina, jagr, lang, straka etc... we had like 10 Czech's on our team. all that done to keep baby jagr happy. what an asshole.

kehoe was stale, i didnt' like him as coach. i didnt like konstantin either. Ed johnston (whose son graduated w/ me, and joe mullen's son also, pretty neat, they both partied hard as shit) was lucky, he was the coach during our glory years in the mid 90's. Edzo's my fav. since scotty bowman. Edzo beats the hell out of kehoe and hlinka. RIP hlinka, thats a bummer. Herb Brooks was cool.

FortyMinutesWest (September 3, 2004)

I like Edzo because he shows emoton, he's like the antithesis of Kehoe. The Pens could've gotten a 5 minute major in OT of game 7 in the finals and Kehoe would've stood there with his arms crossed and chewed his gum.

Anonymous (September 3, 2004)

yea chelios has already said he's going to go into coaching after hockey, expect to see him as a head coach in the near future. I'd take him, but edzo is great if you ask me.

FortyMinutesWest (September 3, 2004)

Old yes, but they also made some questionable picks like Blake and Konowalchuk. Hull shouldn't have made the team either, but Chelios, despite his age has earned his place as a strong leader.

Anonymous (September 3, 2004)

I think the US team is too old and slow. this team woulda been sick in 1998 or so but they need some youth. Its a bunch of superstars past their prime that dont' seem to gel as a team at all. I mean i have alot of respect for modano, chelios and such, but they can't match the speed of either team they've played thusfar. hull is 40, chelios 42!, modano's over 30, as is amonte. Esche their goalie is the only one doing their job. the D let 40 shots on goal each game so far and the offense can't get more than 1 goal (tkachuk and guerin got them, also both over 30).

canada is more balanced and gel's. lemiuex and sakic are old (but both amazing) but everyone else is young. add the nhl scoring title winner in st. louis, the leading goal scorer in iginla, the playoff mvp in richards, rookie of the year 2002 w/ heatley, best goalie of the past 10 yrs in brodeur...best team possible if you ask me. they will win the world cup..

FortyMinutesWest (September 3, 2004)

Canada has looked good, whereas the US team looks horrible. I guess someone forgot to tell these guys that you need to go the net to get goals, not just try a million cross ice passes.

Anonymous (September 3, 2004)

You're right forty, we didnt' extend Aubin an offer. He's sat out on waivers before and no one picked him up.

Morozov is an enigma. He plays like Kovalev sometimes and had a pretty good year last year, but he still hasnt fully achived his potential, if he ever will. He has balls wearing #95 and not being a highflying scorer.

Whoever the Hab fan is, yes, Kovalev is your man. I hated to see him leave, he was my fav. Pen when he was here. I remember he had back to back hatricks. thats rediculous. He's a 40 plus goalman easily, and don't you have Bonk now too? Kovy aslo scored a highlight reel goal last night against team USA.

Team Canada rules. Mainly because of Mario. If he stays healthy i think Mario can finish top 10 scoring.

"FUCK CANADA
FUCK HOCKEY"
wow....you should check out www.conservativepunk.com dude, you'd fit right in w/ your typical ignorant "WERE #!" american attitude. Jesus, 26/30 NHL teams are in american cities anyway you nationalistic fuck.

Yea fuck canada, they've only socialized medicine/hospitals, practically legalized pot, allow gay marrige, let you drink at 19, have a very low murder rate, don't mislead their country into war and send 1,000 young americans to their death for OIL (operation iraqi liberation of course) and are extremely friendly in general. Yea god bless Amerikkka.

Anonymous (September 3, 2004)

"If i wanted to listen to an entire album about god, i'll just pop in the soundtrack for the passion of christ."

Yeah, except this album isn't preachy and is open to interpretation.

I'm not Christian and I can enjoy good music, that's all. I don't have to insult Christians.

FortyMinutesWest (September 2, 2004)

Aubin is sort of in limbo, I don't believe the Pens extended him an offer. He is being courted by a WHA team, if I recall correctly.

I won't shed any tears if he's gone. When he's focused, he can be solid, but he's rarely focused. He's given up some of the softest goals I've ever seen, and I've seen Phillipe DeRouville play. Chiodo will be a solid back up in a couple of years, he's fundamentally sound and he has great reflexes. Caron also has great reflexes, but he overplays too many shots. He'll be going from side to side and end up out of the crease.

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

If i wanted to listen to an entire album about god, i'll just pop in the soundtrack for the passion of christ.

Otherwise, back to hockey..

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

"another lame band crying about girls", have you even heard this album smuck? The whole album is about God. If you have a problem with that you are a complete moron. As far as my opinion goes this album is huge step forward compared to jason. The lyrics are simplistic but the message is what saves them completely. Yet nothing will probably top the moon is down.

boba_fett (September 2, 2004)

wait a minute... did the pens trade aubin?

boba_fett (September 2, 2004)

hockey? im in on this.

i actually think that the pens will be good a few years. they've got a couple young goalies who show potential (Aubin and Fleury) and with the help of a top 5 draft choice for the past 3 years i figure that they've got some good talent on the way. plus they picked up a veteran or 2 in the offseason... they have some potential...

BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE HABS!!! kovalev says he wants to play with us. the ball is in gaineys court: if he fucks it up im pissed. all the habs need to contend is that one star player: kovalev is that player.

and team canada! w00t! beat USA 2-1, then dominate Slovakia 5-1... with currently the best goalie in the world on our team world cup 2004 is ours. no doubt about it.

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

Another lame band crying about girls. Do you really think these FAT losers have ever had girlfriends?? I dont fucking think so.

FUCK CANADA
FUCK HOCKEY

FortyMinutesWest (September 2, 2004)

I wouldn't consider Morozov young talent. He's a bit of an enigma if anything, a perpetual underachiever. The Pens still have his NHL rights, so it's not like they totally lost him.

kirbypuckett (September 2, 2004)

Morozov signed a deal that he won't be playing for the NHL at all this year. He's going to stay over in Russia.

Hockey pisses me off anymore. I like football a lot just because you can have a team like the Pats not make the season inbetween to stellar runs.

The Penguins are gonna be near the bottom for a little longer, and if we can't make enough money to keep the young talent we'll end up like the Pirates.

- Kirby

FortyMinutesWest (September 2, 2004)

Francis rejected Carolina's offer for a front office job, so maybe he'll be back for next season. I'd hate to see him go out the way he did, benched in his last game.

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

I think Pittsburgh would actually be more helped than hurt by no/partial season.

1.Young guys will continue to mature and develp (its already been said Malkin wouldnt play this year anyway). we saw how much time made a difference this year alone. I mean comparing Orpik of a year ago to Orpik at the end of last season is crazy. He got so much better as the year went on. As did Kraft, and then we got Jackman and Pirjeta, who now, settled in, will be even better.
2.Pittsburgh economy gets another year to recover, slot machines for Lemieux draw closer

negatives
1.Lemieux will be turning 40 in 13 months. No hockey this year means he might retire, and at the most, play one more year so we might get screwed of lemieux's last or second to last season.

2.Rechhi is also getting up there (36 i believe he is now?)

it just sucks because there are alot of classic players whose careers are probably over after this year or next. Brett Hull, Yzerman, chelios, stevens, roenick, leetch, Francis etc.

Cos (September 2, 2004)

Nintendo's Ice Hockey was the shit... Stack the team with all fat guys and run over the opposition and hit coast to coast slap shots. Golddman those were the days. Is there a NESticle for Mac OSX?

FortyMinutesWest (September 2, 2004)

Yeah, this whole no season thing really pisses me off, I was looking forward to this year's Pens.

Fleury has loads of potential, but I'd be happy if we signed a veteran goalie to carry some of the load, while Caron backed him up. Chiodo and Fleury can fight it out in Wilkes-Barre. Plus, there's Tomas Duba, who has been impressive in Europe.

On defense you've got the obvious in Jackman, Tarnstrom, and Orpik. But there's also Ryan Whitney, who was great in the AHL playoffs, after coming out of college and not being expected to play at all. Another college player is Noah Welch, who should be ready soon. There's also Rob Scuderi, who isn't an offensive guy or a future all-star, but a solid stay at home guy who plays his position perfectly.

Then you have Malone, Lemieux, Recchi, Kraft, etc.

Pirjeta, if nothing else will be a solid face off man who is responsible in his own end. But he has shown flashes. Koltsov is already one of the fastest skaters in the league, I just hope his hands catch up.

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

agnostic front is for faggots.

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

yea i'm pretty stoked for next season forty. Lemieux is still the shit and could easily have a 30 goal season if he stays healthy for over half of it. Rechhi has had 5 straight 20 plus goal seasons, including 26 last year and led the flyers in points last year. Malone was one of the top 5 rookies last year and had a 20plus goal season on the pens. he could hit 30 next year playing on lemieux's right. Pirjeta showed lots of promise, Kraft finally came into his own and could be a 20 goal scoring second line center. Koltsov and fata have the tools to be 20 plus goalment and can both fly, next year could be their breakout. don't forget rookie Malkin who has been compared to Lecavlier, sakic, thorton and god knows how many other amazing forwards. this roster is definately oiur most promising in a few years.

tarnstrom is an all star D if you ask me, and a top 10 pointman on the powerplay. Jackman could have 15 goals on D. Brooks Orpik looks like the next scott stevens.

don't forget Fleury as the Roy of the future, and Caron/Aubin are not too bad either.

FortyMinutesWest (September 2, 2004)

Lemieux can still put up numbers. Aside from that, the Pens need more of a veteran presence. Last year, the refs never gave them the benefit of the doubt, the officials should give them more respect with Recchi and Lemieux on the roster.

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

"Lemiuex should just retire already.... "

I'd murder you if you said that in my presence.

And he's 38, there have been plenty of players who've played past 38 and been good. Hell Brett Hull was 39 last year and had a 20 plus goal season.

Oh yea, mr. colorado AVs lover, if lemieux should retire so should sakic, he's not much younger.

Lemieux is kicking ass in the world cup anyway, he set up Iginla perfectly last night, to bad he didnt score the goal.

remember in '94 you could rip a slapper after you touched up an icing and sometimes it would sail all the way to the other end and nail some guy in the head and they'd react like they got checked?

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

hey darkstorm, you're confusing your years. gob/treble charger were on 2003 (my fav) sum41 was 2002.

and yes blades of steel rules, but i alwasy liked ice hockey better, cuz you could have different sized guys and they had different strengths and weaknesses.

fighting ruled in blades of steel ...and the loser got a penalty!!

"fight" bichu bich bichu 'agh!"

darkstarm (September 2, 2004)

"Blades of Steel for NES was the best hockey game ever"

god damn straight.

If there's one thing hockey games have over ALL others is that the commentary is just a million times better. I think it was... NHL 2002. That game was fucking great. The commentary was so funny I almost pissed myself a few times. It also had sum 41/gob/treble charger on the game soundtrack, which while aren't that amazing of bands worked suprisingly well in the hockey setting.

go blues.

lostinthecrowd13 (September 2, 2004)

NFL2K5 is very good but I still miss Madden and will probably buy it. NFL 2K5 is lots better though. I first played an NHL 2k game on Dreamcast and ever since then I have been in love with that franchise. EA's NHL games are way too easy. NHL 2K5 here I come! NHL 95 was awesome though. You could definiteley shoot the puck at the ref and knock him down, awesome shit.

Score is for video games hijacking this review.

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

I saw their first show with the new singer, he was awful, but the cd is very good.

FortyMinutesWest (September 2, 2004)

"Since "cheapshot/turtle" Lemiuex and "arrogant" roy left, they don't have many to dislike other than forsberg. Well, maybe foote. "

I hate JM Liles, but don't know why.

As for the Lemieux fighting, I'm still waiting for him to go after Brad Ference again.

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

Forget about being in Sensefield, Bunch's best days were in Reason To Believe, and now he's in one of the most undeserving hyped bands of this century. I feel sorry for him and what's become of him. I saw some pics too, sad. This band is nothing new, nothing groundbreaking, i hear alot of stuff that sounds better than this, similar style even. Although i will say it's better than anything Sensefield did after Building, it's still just all hype, i guess when you have a bunch of people telling you that you should like a band, people actually start believing it, and that's why people like that Tooth and Nail trash. But hey, this is good for Revelation Reocrds right, they'll be able to sell a few hundred copies of Sensefield "Building" to all of the FSF little girls who are afraid to buy "secular" bands records. yikes!

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

Moe Mantha passes the puck to Dougy Gilmour HE SCORES! This one goes out to the Minnesota North Stars and da Kbec Nordiques'

Barkley"Ea Sports'Barkster

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

"Madden is terrible.

100% junk.

- Kirby"

I haven't played it yet so i will have to decide that for myself.

I hope EA Sports improve their hockey and basketball games though as both were shit.

Anonymous (September 2, 2004)

If it wasn't for "floppy" forsberg, i wouldn't care for Colorado. But until he runs back to Sweeden, I will hate Colorado.

Since "cheapshot/turtle" Lemiuex and "arrogant" roy left, they don't have many to dislike other than forsberg. Well, maybe foote.

I'll never forget fun Roy tried to show up Detroit by holding the puck in the air and Detroit wound up slamming it in for a goal. It turned that whole series around and it couldn't have happened to a more arrogant player than him.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

well some of you are

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

man you guys are gay...this cd fuckin kicks ass

kirbypuckett (September 1, 2004)

Madden is terrible.

100% junk.

- Kirby

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

Lemiuex should just retire already....

Go Avs.....if i were the praying type, I'd pray for a season.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

The only reason I have nhl '93 is for the fighting and the blood spill afterword.

Speaking of football, I did play nfl2k5 for playstation 2 but i didn't care too much for it. It's a good bargain for it only being $20 but i'd rather play Madden.

btw, the mega man anniversary collection is so wonderful.

kirbypuckett (September 1, 2004)

In NHL 95 for Sega I won the Art Ross trophy w/ Tom Barasso. I'd just trade away the offensive players once they got too many points and Barasso had like 200 assists and maybe a goal.

- Kirby

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

Blades of Steel for NES was the best hockey game ever

kirbypuckett (September 1, 2004)

I had 98 for PC, I can't remember if you could hit the refs in that version or not.

Oh you could.

My brother had the sweetest replay saved of that. I wish I could have converted that into a video file.

That or the time Curtis Joseph dove OVER the puck and it went into the net.

NHL 98 ruled.

- Kirby

How about Lemiuex putting up the dukes yesterday?

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

hey, remember when TOoth and Nail put out GOOD records? not just fodder for the sheep to gobble....

Cos (September 1, 2004)

I'd wanna go see this band just to yell out songs from "Building." Someone should do that instead of requesting old songs from Mr. Emo.

the score of NHL '94 (Genesis, of course). I can hear the siren now...
--Cos

FortyMinutesWest (September 1, 2004)

I had 98 for PC, I can't remember if you could hit the refs in that version or not. But, beating Fraser could be its own game.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

In '98 for PS1 you could level the referee remember that? it became such second nature to me that I could still make a great defensive hit and find time to hand kerry frasier his shit on my way back up the ice! (penalties off obviously)

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

but for that kid dissing tooth and nail, you should check out the band mewithoutYou. They are a really good band.

FortyMinutesWest (September 1, 2004)

Yeah, the one timer was a big deal. But, the best part about 93 is when you would injure someone during a fight, they'd slide to the penalty box on their back. 95 was weird, but it also had a season mode and create a player

I didn't like 2004 or 2003, but 2004 played more smoothly. The best part of 2004 was the elite leagues. But now 2k5 has extensive scouting, which seems pretty sweet so far.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

"I'd say either 94 or 95, although 93 is tempting too, it has blood."

93 didnt have one timers though, the one timer revolutionized that game. such quicker plays can be made. the blood was nice though, remember they'd bleed for injuries or if they lost a fight, and the blood pool would spread? hahhaha. Did you ever play 92? the puck would jump up all the time and if it even tapped a guy he'd fall down like he just took a blast to the face. pretty funny. 94>95 i think. 95 was all weird, but I believe 95 had some pretty good checking.

DId you like NHL2004? I thought it sucked so bad. I LOVE 2003.

I just went to bestbuy on my lunchbreak and got 2k5. it looks pretty cool.

FortyMinutesWest (September 1, 2004)

Yeah, and some people buy candy corn every year at Halloween. It just shows that some people have horrible taste.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

This score is for Tooth and Nail records for releasing 300 albums in 10 years and still retaining fans like myself. This new FSF album is the best release they have ever attempted and a stab above all of the clutter out there. Just as Strongarm were innovative, so is FSF.

FortyMinutesWest (September 1, 2004)

I'd say either 94 or 95, although 93 is tempting too, it has blood.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

Forty, i have religeously played NHL for EA since i got NHLPA '93 when it was new. I own every one since. I thought NHL2004 was god awful. I will buy nhl2k4 on your advice. I then want to meet you somwhere in the pittsburgh area and show you how badly I can OWN anyone at hockey video games.

I challege you! pick your year. I'll take you in '96 when the introduced the spinorama!

FortyMinutesWest (September 1, 2004)

Yeah, NHL 95 is one of my favorite games of all time, but EA has really gone downhill. The best part about create a player in 2k5 is that you can mix and match first and last names. In EA, if you wanted to make, say, Ryan Whitney (Pens prospect) he'd just be called Ryan. But, in 2k you can pick Ryan for his first name and Whitney for his last, and he'll be referred to as Ryan Whitney. Also, Ovechkin's name is in the game.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

Scores for a bunch of Canadians talking about hockey.

It's football season dammit !!

logan (September 1, 2004)

this album is alright.

so you can't create a player in nhl 2005???? i played 2k5 last night and it's pretty dope.. i'm fucking loving it. but im loyal to EA.. ever since nhl 95 when my player won the hart and the art ross... those were good times! but if i cant create a player in the new EA.. then fuck those greedy bastards. i'll give my 29.99 to sega this year.

FortyMinutesWest (September 1, 2004)

The Flames are a one year wonder dude. Besides that, Iginla fights with a visor on. Don Cherry should be outraged.

Aside from create a player, EA's gameplay also sucks. Plus, Sega's games play much smoother than EA's. EA has more fluff, but Sega plays more like real hockey.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

oops i meant the gleason album sucked. my bad.

Scores for that song on the gleason album that went "I AM REDEMPTION!!!!!" in the jesus rock voice

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

Score is for Mario Lemeiux trying to kill steve konawalchuk for no reason in last nights USA/Canada match.

GO PENS!!!!!!

oh yea FSF. I liked them when they had carabba, but then he quit and now I can't hear caraabas voice and keep a straight face. the Bunch album sucked, so overproduced and cheesy, but bunch prob has a better voice than carraba. Sense Feild were boring. These guys suck.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

"Meant to give 2k5 a ten. Anyway, Sega > EA. EA's new hockey game doesn't even have create player."

Geek

peilocal (September 1, 2004)

Never heard any songs from this band, no intention/desire of hearing any songs from this band.
As for hockey. NHL 2005 will be the best hockey game ever. Never had a chance to play NHL 2K5 cause I own the Cube, but I would wager NHL 2005 will blow it out of the water. Fuck that create a player bullshit, give me Jarome Iginla and the rest of the Flames and I'll take 'em back to the cup final, and win it too!! At least my provinical couterpart, Brad Richards, got his name on the cup.
Prince Edward Island bitches!!

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

one of the most overrated bands out there.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

you guys are assclowns, this band is great.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

I like this album. I was doubtful of Bunch, but I think he's a great replacement. Jason Gleason is just a fashion core bitch anyways.

Score is for the the FSF album and the review.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

i want a 2005 xterra. fuck you

johnnydanger (September 1, 2004)

Good one bsd hahaha

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

that was a well written review. this album is good, give it a chance... this band's talent sets them apart from the rest... great dynamics

kirbypuckett (September 1, 2004)

NHL2k5 was in stores yesterday.

Says Kirby the CompUSA employee.

- Kirby

lostinthecrowd13 (September 1, 2004)

I thought NHL 2K5 didn't ship till tomorrow. damnit.
Further Seems Forever last release wasn't anything I fell in love with and this review doesn't make me wanna run out and get the new cd either.

Anonymous (September 1, 2004)

I can't wait to pass this up.

Spaztic (August 31, 2004)

I can't wait to pick this up.

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

that's probably due to poor sales bro

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

remember when sense field used to be good? then they got AWFUL. and now the singer is in this band. that must have been a serious blow to his ego, to go from being in a pioneering/well respected/often amazing post-hardcore band into being in the poster children for stereotypical emo-punk. that said, i actually think fsf is a cut above the other bands in said genre, but they're still generic as fuck.

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

this score is for sega sports titles only coming out on ps2 and xbox. i'm not sure if nintendo or sega is to blame for these games not coming to the gamecube, but regardless, it's disappointing.

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

The few songs i've heard from them suck monkey balls.
*buttbadger*

inagreendase (August 31, 2004)

why are they even releasing hockey games this year? its not like there's going to be a season

Anything is possible in the world of sports simluations.

Sega offering new sports titles at $19.99 plus positive reviews from already two reliable people equals me picking up NHL2K5 very soon.

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

why are they even releasing hockey games this year? its not like there's going to be a season

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

Tooth & Nails most popular band is and always will be Mxpx
bow to the pop punk and fucking represent. Do you realize that pop punk is going to make a comeback in a few years and you haters are gonna be sucking pop punk dicks again?

Barkley

MrLuke (August 31, 2004)

I fucking hate Tooth and Nail records.
-MrLuke

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

carrabba should have stayed with FSF or the Vacant Andys, both were great with em even if u hate him now.

FortyMinutesWest (August 31, 2004)

Meant to give 2k5 a ten. Anyway, Sega > EA. EA's new hockey game doesn't even have create player.

TheMarc (August 31, 2004)

It was just a suggestion, BSD.

TrailerParkJesus (August 31, 2004)

And I want NHL '05. :(

TrailerParkJesus (August 31, 2004)

The cover art reminds me of the anadivine ep..

FortyMinutesWest (August 31, 2004)

This band is horrible.

But, I just got NHL 2k5, so this score is for NHL 2k5.

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

"You’ve all probably heard most of the history of this band by now. If you haven’t, I suggest reading this, then this, followed by this, and just for the hell of it, play this."

Unless you don't care about shitty music.

-BSD

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

Fuck this carbon copied crap, lets get the new Leftover crack cd on review here!

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

i can't wait until this band comes out with 'bring me the head of chris carraba'.

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

I liked the last album a lot.... i hope this one is as good...

United State of Electronica this friday at Bumbershoot!

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

this band sucks------------ first biotches

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