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Various: Boston Beatdown Volume II DVDBoston Beatdown Volume II DVD (2004)
Crosscheck Records

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I still remember the only fight I ever had in my life. I must have been about 12 or 13, but to me it still feels like it was a life/death struggle. Fortunately the teacher seperated us, but I remember how that schoolyard became all quiet during and right after the fight. People were ecstatic and jus.


I still remember the only fight I ever had in my life. I must have been about 12 or 13, but to me it still feels like it was a life/death struggle. Fortunately the teacher seperated us, but I remember how that schoolyard became all quiet during and right after the fight. People were ecstatic and just loved it! I didn't though, I remember I was crying like a little baby afterwards, even though I think I beat him up more than he did me (probably wishful thinking?). Anyway, since then, I'm proud to say that I always ran away from fights, and I really think it's not because I was a coward or was afraid of getting beaten up; it's just that I think that violence is only useful in very limited cases. I'd first want to emphasize that I didn't grow up in a violent environment like Boston and I have had a pleasant, normal life, with a fulltime job and a comfortable house to live in, and therefore some might judge I shouldn't have been reviewing this.

The DVD is a raw documentary, with adapted music, about the Boston underground Hardcore scene, and more specific about the F.S.U.-crew (Friends Stand United) that arose from legendary Boston band SSD. This underground scene has evolved to a worldwide phenomenon. As one of the co-founders witnesses, it was the guy in SSD who took the DC Straight Edge (cfr. Ian McKaye of Fugazi) idea to Boston, but instead of only spreading morality, these guys started spreading their fists to anyone who did harm to any member of their clan. The main idea behind all this, seems to be that there's a bunch of tight friends who will collectively beat up anyone who touches one of their members. A masked guy, standing in front of the American Flag first explains what the anger is all about, and I can only agree that there's a lot of bad things going on in many places. But the facts that multibillion corporations destroy independent stores, that expending Universities dimolish housing projects and that new middleclass neighborhoods displace the artists and the poor won't be solved by fists in my eyes. In fact, not one of these evildoers involved will feel any pain through this behaviour for sure. Quite remarkably though, at the end of the DVD, there's this guy "Chabo" who plain out says "Fuck all the Politically Correct kids and mall-punks", and most of these guys show no sign of political or cultural involvement whatsoever. They just brag about how fucking awful their lives have been, and they admit having impulse control problems and an affinity for violence.

OK, maybe we should understand why they are acting like this, considering the fact that life hasn't been good to them, because of malfunctioning governments, corporate interest and bad social security and whatnot, but I don't see violence as a way to resolve any of this. Furthermore, it seems like all their aggression is focused on other kids, instead of towards the ones who they hold responsible for their not so enviable living. What's the point in that?

Interviews with founders of the F.S.U.-crew and bandmembers of Dead Before Dishonor and Blood For Blood don't get me anymore supportive of their causes either. Maybe it's true that people act like sheep and follow a trend too often, but isn't that exactly what they are doing themselves by excluding everyone who thinks different from what they believe in, or who doesn't belong? Their own crew has probably more unwritten rules and regulations (although I'm sure they claim to not have them) than a kid that listens to a popular punkrock band and dresses up like his friends or bands that he watches on MTV. As a matter of fact, I find it hard to believe that certain people will visit their shows, just to start a fight or to harass them, considering the size and posture of the interviewed people. They sure as hell don't look like the feable wuss that would be the center of mockery at a show. Of all the fights that were taped (and they are numerous), there's not one explanation of what the fights are about; you just see a bunch of people brutally beating up one person, including a beating up of superstar Moby, but I have no clue what started it or what the guy really did wrong here. As stated, they would be solely responsible for Nazi-punks and jocks to stay away from hardcore and punkshows thanks to some good beatings.

There's some extras included, featuring old live performances of Wrecking Crew, Ten Yard Fight and In My Eyes. They show how intense these shows can get, and I have no problem with guys going nuts in the pit (I even think it's great), because everyone there knows what to expect when you attend these shows. Also, you'll be able to see how "underground surgery" is done to a guy with a large gaping wound. Yep, these guys have their own doctors in the house, because of course there's no way they can afford professional help. It reminded me of Rambo, but this is real!

When I first read the announcements of this DVD by Crosscheck Records, I mailed them that I didn't like to add releases to our calendar that support violence and beatings. They then claimed that I should see the DVD first and then judge it. Well, I've looked to it thoroughly, and all I can conclude is that to me personally this group of people is not that much better than a bunch of nazi-skin punks. Maybe their motivations are somewhat more understandable, but there's so much similarities with fascist movements (the agression, the intollerance, the gothic printing they use, their flag-adoration, their urge for self-protection, ‚?¶) which leaves me with the bitter conclusion that I wished they were not a part of the punk scene. In my knowledge I never witnessed a fight once at a punk show over here in Belgium. In fact, our little punk community over here has always been proud of the togetherness and fun they share at concerts. That's what I understand when I speak of "unity", and I always bring that up when I talk about punk music to other people.

I'd advise you to buy this DVD if you're looking for reality streetfights and cruel images, although I must say most of the tapings are amateuristic and recorded in the dark. Actually, it's almost as spectacular as the reality-TV served on our screen everyday. I didn't find good arguments for this behavior, but maybe that's because I never got into these unpleasant life-circumstances. Nevertheless, I think these declarations of F.S.U. members sum it up pretty well: "Given nothing, we are taking everything, making this world a place of our own" and "There's a big misunderstanding here: It's not being a bully or about hating bullies, it was to destroy bullies in union". Now, with this negative review, I just hope I won't get featured as a victim in the 3rd episode of these Boston Beatdown series that should be coming soon. I told you before that I am a pussy, but I think these guys are pathetic. I still have no clue why Chad from New Found Glory (shouldn't he be that mall-punk?) ever endorsed this release.

 


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xGLEBExCOREx (March 23, 2006)

thank you for this.
i live on cape cod, about 2.5 hours away from boston, and here we have our "gangs" although we live in a docile environment, these people exist seemingly only to make shows SUCK.
but i respect your ballsy review of this, for it's absolutely true.
boston is loaded with skinheads and hardliners just looking to fight eachother for control.... of what?
when they're older working as cubicle monkeys they'll get it.

xGLEBExCOREx (March 23, 2006)

thank you for this.
i live on cape cod, about 2.5 hours away from boston, and here we have our "gangs" although we live in a docile environment, these people exist seemingly only to make shows SUCK.
but i respect your ballsy review of this, for it's absolutely true.
boston is loaded with skinheads and hardliners just looking to fight eachother for control.... of what?
when they're older working as cubicle monkeys they'll get it.

Anonymous (March 7, 2005)

These FSU fuckheads remind me an awful lot of the Courage Crew. I live close to Cincinnati and I see Courage Crew assholes at a lot of shows and they are just absolutely despicable.

Anonymous (September 24, 2004)

FSU vs. DMS

DMS would kick their asses...I wanna see some hardcore crew tag team fights for the next DVD with Hulk Hogan as special guest referee

Anonymous (September 23, 2004)

favorite non violent hardcore groups
kid dynamite (surpirse)
paint it black
the curse
comeback kid
bane
trial by fire
strike anywhere
by the grace of god
stretch armstrong
bad brains

theres more but im tired
as for this pablum come on serious wasnt about half of hardcore about standing up for yourself and beign unified against those who are close minded and beatdown happy?
i mean maybe i listened to the wrong minor threat songs or the wrong bad brains songs for that matter. yeah hardcore is violent music it doesnt mean you have to incite and reenact the violence in the music towards others
yeah i like slapshot but im not beating up every dude with a backwards baseball hat i like earth crisis too but i aint gonna fuck with you because youre not edge and like to eat animals who the fuck cares im here for the music and friends not for some violent close minded crap that hurts everyone not just the victim of the beating. these actions are what gets venues shut down and shows ended early so stop the shit shut up and play if youre in a band if youre htinking of starting fights play hockey, footbal or wrestling seriously stay away from the shows stay away from me.

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

"Shut up. You're from Boston, therefore your opinions and views don't count. And every band you've mentioned is fratboy jockcore. Dickhead."

1. I've never even been to Boston

2. If Mental and Righteous Jams are fratboy jockcore, you're either deaf or consider the Casualties to be a hardcore band.

3. If i was from Boston, my opinion would count more since i'd be from the place in the title of the fucking dvd asshat.

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

you couldn't be more wrong. mental, righteous jams, converge, bane(suburbs but close enough), ten yard fight, in my eyes - not one of them is even close to being toughguy. the guy with the long ost you're all bashing is one of very few in these comments with a brain. there are few to no FSU fights on the DVD, there's an FSU chapter where i'm from and i can't say i've ever seen them start a fight over something stupid. maybe they didn't like someone talking to a girl, lots of guys will hit someone if they're talking to their g/f it's not just FSU. the DVD just shows how things are, if you don't like how things are in Boston, don't move there i'd also not recomend moving to Philly or NYC either. just shut your mouths, go to whatever shows you go to wherever that don't have fights and shut up already.
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Shut up. You're from Boston, therefore your opinions and views don't count. And every band you've mentioned is fratboy jockcore. Dickhead.

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

Beating down "nazis" (as if they can tell from how someone looks these days) is stupid. FSU uses a Nazi mentality.

That's what it comes down to, and I think it's bullshit. Go jerk off to Beowulf, assholes.

-BSD

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

"All I've ever heard that's been huge in Boston has been this tough-guy bullshit. "

you couldn't be more wrong. mental, righteous jams, converge, bane(suburbs but close enough), ten yard fight, in my eyes - not one of them is even close to being toughguy. the guy with the long ost you're all bashing is one of very few in these comments with a brain. there are few to no FSU fights on the DVD, there's an FSU chapter where i'm from and i can't say i've ever seen them start a fight over something stupid. maybe they didn't like someone talking to a girl, lots of guys will hit someone if they're talking to their g/f it's not just FSU. the DVD just shows how things are, if you don't like how things are in Boston, don't move there i'd also not recomend moving to Philly or NYC either. just shut your mouths, go to whatever shows you go to wherever that don't have fights and shut up already.

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

We have FSU types in KC, too. They're all grossely overweight thirty year olds who rock out to bands with lyrics like "the strong will survive". Also, Nazi Skins are not the status quo. I'm against their beliefs, and think that they are assholes, but you're wrong. Also, you're wrong about DC. College kids? Maybe. But DC (as I've pointed out before) had everything from all-black hardcore to skinhead street-punk. All I've ever heard that's been huge in Boston has been this tough-guy bullshit.

Violence is not the answer. Also, the FSU doesn't just fight jocks and skins. Like a below poster said, they don't even let guys talk to certain girls. They hit first and ask later. Hardcore? Maybe in the 80's. If anything, though, all FSU is doing is perpetuating the status quo by promoting intollerance, ingnorance, stupidity, hatred, and violence.

-BSD

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

fuck 'em. the fsu kicked some of my friends asses for talking to a girl they werent supposed to... and they lurk at all the cool places and know who everyone is (its fucking creepy). i've had assholes tell me "they're real so don't fuck around".. as if it matters. i say, let them feel all self-important like, because no one seems to give a shit.

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

To the guy below me

"Hardcore is not safe, hardcore is vioplent"
That's where you're wrong, just read some interviews of Black Flag or Minor Threat to understand that hardcore ideal is against physical violence. Hardcore shows, unfortunately, may be violent but that's not the point or this is not hardcore but just stupid tough guy music.

By the way FSU is a crew. Everything from the imagery to the semantic (and the banner "join the crew" on their site) show that they are a crew (and like you said "crews are fuckin gay" )

P.S. Learn to type!!!

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

"That's bullshit. Black Flag's shows may have been brutal, but I still say that beating the shit out of everyone around you is stupid. The main difference being, when the original "beatdowns" occured (in DC, back when Choke was probably still rocking to KISS), they were against a status quo/group of people who were against punks. In-fighting wasn't what it was about.

Getting drunk and beating the shit out of people? That's for assholes.

Violence is for assholes"

it IS against a status quo. The big FSU fight 10 years ago was against Nazi Skins always goin to shows and fuckin up the shows. Other then that its mostly Street Fights, FSU or not, against other college kids lookin to beat on some punks and start street fights.

You dont even know what your arguing about. You never seen it, and even if you did, you still wouldnt get it and stroke your huge self rightous boner about ho0w you are the anti-violent ghadi of hardcore.

Why the hell dont you gusy fuckin get it? FSU doesnt go around Bsoton beating up random kids, and pickin out kids and beating them up terrozing shows. The only fights that happen is when some shit head or drunk frat boy shows up at a hsow, and start punching small hardcore kids in the head.

The fights on the DVD are mostly non-FSU kids in drunken street fights with Frat Boys. The FSU fights they actually show, are mostly FSU guys workin as bouncers on Lansdowne St, cause its there job to throw out drunks who are causing trouble.

And the DC fights werent an orginiazed fight against some status quo you dipshit. Most fo the fightsd were skinheads and punks and frat kids, basically it was all 15-22 year olds beatin on each other, same thing in Boston, same thing in whatever scene that has a violent hardcore band that draws.

But this BSD kid has is head so far up hsi fuckin ass, he just dont get it or will even watch it.

The DVD isnt the greatest thing in the world, but you retards that havent even seen it, think its way fuckin worse than it is.

Hardcore is not safe, hardcore is vioplent. Thats why all the hardcor eheroes quit hardcore bands and started Post-hardcore, indie bands, they outgrew the violence.

Its youth, its agression, its a release.

Its a documentory of the last 20 years of hardcor in Boston, fotoage of old shows, and some random street fights. Read the storys about Black Flags touring years, they are way fuckin worse than whats on that DVD.

It hardcore, its not going anywhere.

FSU has done more ot protect the scene than anyone i know. you dicksd that keep quoting Kid Dynomite dont realize thats exactally what FSU and most Boston Hardcore kids do. the Young kid hittin people thinkin hes a tough shit, gets a slap, relaizes wjhats up. The 23 year old drunk frat boys that go to a Blood for Blood show, run up fornt and start out rightin beatin on people and punchin dudes in the face cause they dont fuckin get it, get tossed.

DOnt get me wrong, crews are fuckin gay, and i hate young kids in crews goin to shows being tough tryin to make a name for themselves, but FSU are all older and i respect them all, cause they dont pull that shit.

Why dont you make a DVD of how you think things SHOULD be, cause these guys made a DVD of how things ARE.

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

I think I'll buy the Star Wars trilogy instead of this and keep on listening to Dillinger escape plan for good hardcore music.

Here's a little quote from my homeboy Qui-Gon Jinn for those morons: "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get out of here!"
(It's better to be a geek than F.S.U.)

daegan (September 22, 2004)

People like this ruin us.

(Oh and I love how everyone says Boston is so brutal. Shit, kid, come to Detroit, where even Starbucks is too scared to open up on every corner.)

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

That's bullshit. Black Flag's shows may have been brutal, but I still say that beating the shit out of everyone around you is stupid. The main difference being, when the original "beatdowns" occured (in DC, back when Choke was probably still rocking to KISS), they were against a status quo/group of people who were against punks. In-fighting wasn't what it was about.

Getting drunk and beating the shit out of people? That's for assholes.

Violence is for assholes.

-BSD

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

another thing is, i dont know how you kids can sing along with Choking Victim and Dead Keneddys about killing cops, and listen to and rock Black Flag whos all songs were about Violence and agression, THE PUNK HARDCORE band of all time, whos shows were riddle with fights and violence.

Minor Threat and SSD shows were constant fights. Its vilent Music. Its based on violent ideas liek anarchy, and its agressive music.

whatever, you nerds keep your message boards and define "punk" and "jocks" all day. ill keep the shows and the streets

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

All the video has is footage of toughguys beating other tough guys.
80% of the footage is fights ont eh streets with hardcore/punk kids and frat boys. All Bosotn has is a shit-ton of College kids and punks. So they all get drunk at partys on Mission Hill, and fights break out between kids constantly. Its been going on since before FSU, for over 20 years.

This is just footage and a documentory on the harder side of hardcore in Boston. Boston has ALWAYS been known as the hardest danicng town.

Its not gonna change, its not going anywhere, watch the DVD and youll see no one is coming to get you or ruining your little scene.

Some hardcore is posi, some negative release. I like Bad Brains and Fugazi and Kid Dynamite as much as i like Blood for Blood, Black Flag, and Sheer Terror. Its all hardcore to me, and sometimes i wnana be constructive and posi, and sometimes i wnatt o beat the hsit out of everyone around me. Thats hardcore dude. Sometimes i need some inpriation from HR, sometimes my fuckin hate is all that gets me through the fuckin day.

Why cant you fucks realize its the same thing, stop anylizing it and just live.

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

keep talking shit you little fucks, you have no idea who your fucking with...We will hit you with our walkers then jump on our larks put on our skully caps go back to our parents houses and watch the re runs of our gang

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

"we will have a tea party at your house"

lol

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

keep talking shit you little fucks, you have no idea who your fucking with...

Ture !! the old men of Boston will get all of thier friends together and kick your ass !! Better watch out or you will get your ass kicked. Hear me ? your ass kicked ! just like on the video ! Geezer patroll will come over to your house...tell you how it is. I am not kidding...you will really get a beating cuz beatings are cool...dont mess with Boston..Wie will have a tea party ot YOUR house and kick your ass...after we kick your ass you wont be able to post your opinion cuz we will break your fingers and put you on the cover of our next dvd...Boston beatoff...thats right we will beat you and touch you as much as we can cuzzzzzz we dont get laid !! we fight !! fight ! fight ! fight !

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

nobody outside boston takes these 30something losers seriously. hit the gym somemore bros. maybe a job will find you!

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

"After reading that board for five minutes I feel much less optimistic about human intelligence."

Tell me about it. It was really depressing actually. When I'm thirty, I hope I can don "rad" belt-buckles and team-up with my buddies to stomp people who disagree with me.

Why can't Godzilla make a stop in Boston?

-ObeyYourParents

CrankWillDestroy (September 21, 2004)

'keep talking shit you little fucks, you have no idea who your fucking with'

hahahaha, oh fuck

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

keep talking shit you little fucks, you have no idea who your fucking with

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

After reading that board for five minutes I feel much less optimistic about human intelligence.

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

I live in Boston and some of the FSU kids are alright I suppose. I thought the video was dumb and not really funny since watching people get beat up for no reason is not really funny. Watching my dad beat my mom wasn't funny either. I was really upset that these kids never give any explanation as to why there beating up people and it's always 6 on 1 how fair is that. It sort of reminded me of when I would get beat up by the football team for not liking rap music. They say they ran the nazis out of town, from hardcore shows maybe, there are still nazis in boston are they really that naieve, and are they any better with there tactics? Violence breeds violence.

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

i was looking at that message board,and now theres kids out shooting their own copycat 'beatodnwn' footage hoping to send it in for the next boston beatdown.

this is even worse than when Jackass was popular.

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

Actually, it doesn't matter since it's easier to get ass by being out and out homosexual than being homophobic and feeling the need to prove your "manhood" by beating up on weaker people. I may be a twerp, but I am an honest twerp.

-BSD

stevejonestherealbones (September 20, 2004)

bsd,

dont be jealous of all the people who excell in sports just cause youre a little twerp

- jones the bones

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

There's really no justification for this behavior.

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

Bands from Boston are like chicks, always bitching at each other.

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

"maybe its cool to be a tough guy in high school but when you're 30 and acting like that, you're just a joke."

No, it's still not cool to be a jock. I also find it funny that sports culture is steeped in such homoeroticism (from the Greeks) that lives on today (group showers, talking about each others' dicks, patting asses), yet jocks are so homophobic.

-BSD

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

most of the people whining about this DVD probably haven't even seen it. and if you notice the majority of the fights on the DVD do not take place at shows but are just street fights for the most part involving hardcore kids. my only complaint about it is the length, it needs to be longer than 30 minutes.

BizzleBrizzle (September 20, 2004)

Favorite non-violent hardcore groups:
Kid fucking dynamite. "no thanks to anyone who would ruin any scene with intimidation and violence."

Agreed, also Pipedown and Paint It Black(well that sorta goes with Kid Dynamite)

SOYBOMB (September 20, 2004)

A shame that self-assurance still lingers in such a primordial fashion.

I'm not sure if I should be laughing at the idiocy of the notion of "underground surgeons" or maybe dismissing it in utter disgust.

From my perspective, 'FSU' is a mere gang--
Be it self-righteous, these individuals are all gang members who're inevitably going to be put in life threatening situations if their actions persist.

If they chose to be slightly more reasonable, they'd change the banner on their website from boasting commentary to a flickering 'FUCKING RETARDED'.

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

FSU is hardcore kids, bikers, and criminals. There good guys, i like them, i know them. The DVD is good, and funny.

No one goes around beatin on people for no reason, no one walks the streets in gang beatin on people.

you guys totaly dont get it, and are self righteous about nothing. i opened this review and you couldve just had a sound clip of a baby nursery with 100 babys crying, and it wouldve been the same thing.

get your head out fo your ass and stop being so threatened

Haggard (September 20, 2004)

Steve Jones, is this you?

http://www.bostonbeatdown.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1655& sid=81d74f15b15cd14b7a1c1b223019f998

-Justin

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

i read some of the threads on the boston beatdown site. these guys are unreal. no shit their lives are rough, they're grownups acting like children, who the fuck is gonna show them any respect except for each other. losers. maybe its cool to be a tough guy in high school but when you're 30 and acting like that, you're just a joke.

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

"I still have no clue why Chad from New Found Glory (shouldn’t he be that mall-punk?) ever endorsed this release."

I'm not defending him or anything, but didn't he endorse it as a documentary? I thought that was what he, bane and serveral other bands said about this release. I mean, that's like saying someone loves bush just because he tells people that he likes farenheit 9/11. It's a documentary. However, the fsu fuckers saying that this release rules does not see it as a documentary but a promo-movie of themselves.

inagreendase (September 20, 2004)

I'll agree with Anonymous two posts down, and then simply state that this whole scenario literally makes me sick to my stomach. I have to applaud bands like Comeback Kid for taking lyrical stands like they are against this crap.

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

I for one applaud the profiting off of senseless violence.

Anonymous (September 20, 2004)

Favorite non-violent hardcore groups:
Kid fucking dynamite. "no thanks to anyone who would ruin any scene with intimidation and violence."

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

I'm guessing a band called STAND AND FIGHT isn't gonna be peaceful... Fuck. I don't know about modern hardcore. Bane is cool, though.

I want to review the new Das Oath for this page. It is the greatest hardcore album to come out in a while, but I have no idea whether they're assholes or not. CB was good.

-BSD

Cos (September 19, 2004)

Favorite non-violent hardcore groups:

Avail, 7 Seconds, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, Trial By Fire and just about anything not influenced by the Earth Crisis/metalcore wing.

jamespastepunk (September 19, 2004)

Alright...change of subject?

Favorite non-violent hardcore groups: Bane.

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

This is the first review ever where absolutely no one likes the item in question.

Bad music or good, NO ONE likes senseless violence, and the excuses they give (big business, yuppie urban renewal) only cheapens the protest of people who are REALLY fighting against such things. Beating someone in the street "to teach him a lesson" is just gang-mentality crap that, as far as I know, is kept mainly in Boston (thank god). I know here in the midwest, Coalesce shows never ended or were interrupted by the insecure gestures of your favorite locker room rapists.

-BSD

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

best review i've seen on here. I've seen fsu guys claim it isnt them doing the beatings in the videos, but they are still profiting from it (and by promoting it, attracting lots of meatheads to hardcore)

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

What's the thing on the cover with a gun? Does someone get the "ultimate beatdown" in this?

-BSD

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

Hahaha, I think Steve Jones' comment might be the funniest thing he's said yet.

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

It's a good thing Boston sucks hard in general, or this movement might really be a problem.

As opposed to just something else for me to laugh at.

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

The worst thing abou fsu is all the faggots from philadelphia and other places who go to boston every four months or so beat up a few kids and think they're brothers with the boston fsu meatheads. i hope they all stop breathing as soon as possible

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

"shai hulud son..chad is more hardcore than all of you"

youre such a moron. I dont think any of us care about how 'hardcore' we are. and shai hulud blows.

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

My problem with some of the straight-edge kids (both violent and non-violent) is that they all have this gang mentality.

"I don't need a crew to validate myself" -Comeback Kid

I used to of the nonviolent straight edge variety, but I never had the gang mentality. I actually had to flee because the non straight edge kids had that mentality and were after me for some reason.

CrankWillDestroy (September 19, 2004)

this shit is gay.
all these douche bags are ex-lacrosse players who discovered 'punk' or 'hardcore' when they didn't get into Miami of Ohio or Northwestern.

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

this kind of violence is eerily reminiscent of the old days when skinheads roamed aroud in packs, doing 20 on 1 beat downs of kids at shows, shutting down shows, and being the general scum of the earth. i shudder to think what would happen if i accidentally bumped into one of these guys at a show and get punished for "being out of line." fuck these guys. fuck nazi skinheads. and fuck the bands that try to incite violence at shows. this is NOT HARDCORE.

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

someone needs to make a dvd exploiting the good side of punk/ska/hardcore. whatever it is, a dvd is needed showing the unity and care that 98% of the kids who dont support this boston beatdown shit have.

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

My problem with some of the straight-edge kids (both violent and non-violent) is that they all have this gang mentality.

"I don't need a crew to validate myself" -Comeback Kid

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

I'm from Boston, and all I've gotta say is:

Fuck this. We do not need this in the "scene". Fuck tough-guy crew bullshit. Fuck bands who incite the crowd and say stuff like "let's see some fucking blood out there".

This mentality is no different than the meat-head, violent "jocks" that these guys claim to hate.

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

Score is for the girls that attend FSU

BizzleBrizzle (September 19, 2004)

I say fuck em all..

FortyMinutesWest (September 19, 2004)

This is encouraging, hopefully the kids who are getting into hardcore now will see how ridiculous this shit is and shun this kind of attitude when they get older.

Anonymous (September 19, 2004)

I saw those FSU fags at the Blacklisted performance at Hellfest and its fucking hilarious. These obvious homosexuals-in-denial run around purposely hitting the audience because they had the nerve to just stand there and not hit things. Its a fucking shame that they'll never get laid consentually and that when they do pull off a date rape the girl will laugh at their indescribibly small penises after months of therapy. If I could wipe these fucks off the face of the earth, there wouldn't even have been a Boston Beatdown DVD 1.

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

This shit is scary... when does the line get crossed between beating someone down and actually beating them to death.. it only takes once to put you in jail for life.. and throwing fists is real "tough" until someone pulls a fuckin gun and puts you in the ground.. lets see how tough you and your mob mentality crews are when some kid you decide to throw a beating to pulls a gun on you.. these pricks are the reason that kids feel the need to carry weapons.. absolutely anti-social nonsense that does more harm then good.. wish i could give this shit a ZERO..

dazed (September 18, 2004)

That review was dead-on. Fuck these guys.

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

if you want to get some good laughs in, spend a couple minutes going through that forum. absolutely hilarious. guys talking shit about bands, calling anti-racist bands racists, guys threatening to beat up skinheads, un-fucking-believable. they're all 13 year olds trapped in 23 year old testerone filled bodies.

Haggard (September 18, 2004)

http://www.bostonbeatdown.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1638&sid=163 31f6a3cdbd71b4ce90eb4432f6c65

Wow. Not to the thredstarter, but to the people who actually belive in what he said.

-Justin

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

hey look they do have internet

http://www.bostonbeatdown.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1 &topicdays=0&start=0

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

I hope this is just the fringe "sub-culture" of the Boston scene. Or perhaps its a poor representation of their daily lives. I really hope these FSU fellas aren't like this in person when you meet them on the street.

-ObeyYourParents

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

I got beat up by 6 frat guys last weekend...it sucked. I hope they die.

maverick (September 18, 2004)

For the record, Fuzzy also wrote a review of this giving it the same score and making the same observations, but using a lot more profanity and less elaboration, so I ran with this one. No hard feelings, Justin?

-Scott

TheOnetrueBill (September 18, 2004)

One of the best reviews I've ever read.

FortyMinutesWest (September 18, 2004)

"shai hulud son..chad is more hardcore than all of you"

Supporting this makes Chad look like a hypocrite, I'm glad he left Shai Hulud way back when.

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

this seems less of a review of the actual release and more a critique of the mentality behind it, but it's a well written and intelligence one, i give it thumbs up. and yeah, this boston beatdown shit sounds idiotic. thank god for the more tolerant bay area hardcore scene here.

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

"I‚??d first want to emphasize that I didn‚??t grow up in a violent environment like Boston and I have had a pleasant, normal life, with a fulltime job and a comfortable house to live in, and therefore some might judge I shouldn‚??t have been reviewing this."

Funny thing is...Boston isn't that harsh, it's quite a safe city, so it's more along the lines that these are just violent thugs that love causing violence for no reason.

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

These guys are bringing down the scene, man...

jamespastepunk (September 18, 2004)

So this is what all the fuss is about.

This is why I despise the tough guy bullshit.

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

This is one of the best reviews I've ever seen on this site.

Nice work "Hein."

Anonymous (September 18, 2004)

Fuck this shit.

Anonymous (September 17, 2004)

D12 could kick these guys' asses.

If the Man and the Big Bad Government haven't taken away their internet access (or if these Boston Beatdown motherfuckers are intelligent enough to use a computer), I hope they see this.

Anonymous (September 17, 2004)

shai hulud son..chad is more hardcore than all of you

stevejonestherealbones (September 17, 2004)

this shit is about as homosexual as it gets. boston beat off

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

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