After making an album as amazingly fantastic as Danse Macabre and touring like crazy, the fact that it took three years to make means nothing. They didnt work on the album for three years. I have to admit it is not as good as their last albums, but i still can dance my heart out to a good half of those songs. But as coming from a person who loves music anything for reggae to rap to country to classical. THE FAINT is my absolute most favorite band.

I Love I Dissapear Because is too cool the bass sound and easy lyricss

this cd is fuckin gay, i hate the faint, worst band ever, and worst cd ever, the y fuckin piss me off.

If you haven't noticed nearly all of dance musics lyrics are rather boring and have no depth what so ever. On the other hand though....out of all the bands i listen to that fit in this genre, the faint actually have songs that present some sort of depth and meaning. This whole album echoes the themes of shallow people and how the music scene in particular has been infected by certain shallow people whom are more concerned with fashion and appearance than the music and what it means (something which I though a "punk" website would appreciate. In addition this album has some political aspects and focuses on how the news pollutes the minds of the public. In all honesty i think you are gravely mistaken in the terrible review you gave this album.

"Don't get me wrong I don't mind getting bad reviews / In fact sometimes they're the only ones who try and speak the truth / But there are others who just love to cross that line / Hoping that their viciousness will boost traffic on their site."

Id like to disagree with you but i havent heard there other albums.Symtom Finger drew me to this band and so i bought there new cd
Its a unique sound to them that i like. The shocking lyrics is even better if your embarrassed to show your mom the lyrics then you know its GOOD lyrics haha
thats my view on thing and this is a PUNK site how funny.

this album is great. They didn't drastically change their sound, but why should they do what's expected of them? This album has a sort of 'shock value/shallow' theme to it. All the lyrics seem to be about shallow people, about pretending things are shocking (OMG HE SAID SEMEN), or just having simple lyrics. I suppose I look at what other's see as crap as the theme of the album, and I think it works.

Of course only speaking for myself, as a somewhat off-kilter female, who loves classic experimental electronic organic folk dance rock, the Faint makes me all warm inside. Anyone can strum a guitar and make it sound pretty, and I love that. But what I love more is the fact that the Faint can take sounds, base-lines, and beats I thought were only in my twisted mind and combine them into something so sexy and sinister you can't help but be repelled or magnetized.

"the Faint hit an all time low with lyrics on songs such as the absolute worst song on the album, 'Phone Call'"

But some people can relate, and I'm not afraid to admit that sometimes my feelings are as simplistic as just needing to be touched. (no jokes here please...)

"...and Liars, in my opinion, are the only ones that did anything truly interesting within and beyond the genre."

unfortunately something, Gang of Four already accomplished for the "genre" a good what? 20 years prior with Entertainment!...not to forget the blatant "influences" (read: rip-offs) from The Fall / Wire and the self-admitted borrowing from ESG...

who's the faint?

"whoever said progress was a slow process..."

I'd like to see you try and dance to the liars, spaz.

Anyway, this album is a step back. What happened to the faint that wrote 'Glass Danse' and 'Agenda Suicide'? I'm beginning to think someone else wrote all their previous lyrics. Not lyrically amazing to begin with, the Faint hit an all time low with lyrics on songs such as the absolute worst song on the album, 'Phone Call'.

" need to be talked to, i need to be touched
i need you to hold me, i need to feel loved
and if i could open up to you
maybe i could open you up"

The whole song reads like a Junior High diary.

Bright spots on the album which make it worth getting:

Desperate Guys, Paranoia Attack, I Disappear, Drop Kick the Punks.

You can keep the rest, thank you.

"symptom finger" is going to sound awesome live, i can just sense it.

""dancepunk is dead and Liars are the only ones that made it out alive."

by turning into a noise band so their fans can just accuse people that dont like them of "not getting it"? "

i can't see how Les Savy Fav and Franz Ferdinand are dancepunk, but whatever. the market was been absolutely oversaturated over the past few years and Liars, in my opinion, are the only ones that did anything truly interesting within and beyond the genre. it has nothing to do with accusing people "of not getting it", i appreciate it and so do a lot of other people, apparently you, and a lot of other peoplem, don't. who cares.

If you want the real deal (and you arent feeling faint)l check out VCR from Richmond. I saw them open for Strike Anywhere and they totally blew them off the stage.

"dancepunk is dead and Liars are the only ones that made it out alive."

by turning into a noise band so their fans can just accuse people that dont like them of "not getting it"?

les savy fav and thunderbirds are now are still alive and kicking.

and the rapture and franz ferdinand are doing pretty well for themselves.

I enjoy the new Faint...

Where have all of the reviews of new releases gone? No Converge review??!

It used to be every Tuesday all of the new releases were reviewed. I don't seem to see that anymore...

Not even a review bashing Senses Fail?? What gives?

What a bunch of fags. Not athletic enough to be cornhuskers and too afraid to make a move on Gwen Stefani

This band makes all the girls I know moist. God knows why, maybe it's their looks.

That being said, I don't like the Faint's music at all.

This took three years to make.

-The Faint-

dancepunk is dead and Liars are the only ones that made it out alive.

Dropkick the Punks sounds more Sex Pistols than anything.

I apologize for the wrong quotations. I had the leaked copy at some time, but it's gone now and that is essentially the same thing.

I forgot to mention the classic Saddle Creek emo line of this album:

"I knew you knew I liked you."

This took three years to make??!

Blank Wave Arcade and Danse Macabre were great, but this is just trashy boring rushed bullshit. If it took them 3 years to make this pile they better spend 6 on the next. Maybe then it won't seem like a massive mess. Hooray for run on sentences.

The first thing that popped into my head when I started listening to this was "This took 3 years?" but after repeated listens, it grew on me a lot. It's kind of like a more dancey, less dark and innovative Danse Macabre, but it still has a few pretty good songs. Regardless of what you think of the record, there's no doubt in my mind that live, the songs will sound 100 times better. I can't wait.

"Also, talking about "putting making on in the merch booth" is incredibly shallow."

Dude, what's the fucking name of the song? Desperate Guys, last time I checked. You act like it wasn't written about shallow, desperate people. Hell, if you actually quote the line you paraphrased, it talks about the shallow, whatever scenester attitude. Ahem: "In the evening I saw you, you were warming the bass up. Your hair covered your face up. I was acting indifferent at the merch booth putting on make up."

who loved media......... i did

The lyrics always manage to ruin this band for me. Someone else should write them.

no...the artwork is actually really cool.

It's somewhere between DM and Media. Closer to DM, though.

The artwork doesn't even make sense. At least the Danse and BWA has some order to it. This one just looks put together by some horny 7th graders in a remedial collage class.

This was much better in the 80s. Also, talking about "putting making on in the merch booth" is incredibly shallow.

fuck electroclashdancepunk

i hate it all

i listned to this album a couple times, failed to become interested at all in it, and have since stopped.

Oops.. I forgot to adjust my rating (I posted to last post...)

And yes, I remember Scott saying that, too, because I commented on that thread as well.

The only thing I agreed with you over is that this album IS filthy. It's dirty, sexy and a whole lot of fun. I love it.

While Erection and Birth may be pretty odd in the lyric department, but that's part of their strange charm. I highly doubt Todd Baechle wrote them thinking he was going to be fucking Keats or something.

I think that altho this album isn't an obvious classic like Danse Macabre was, there are some wonderful songs on here, from the latin vibe of "Southern Belles in London Sing" to the bombastic mayhem of "I Dissapear" and "Drop Kick the Punks."

And for those who are upset with the lack of material, there are some b-sides that will be on the singles and imports and such. "Hypnotised" is on the I Disappear single and I've heard there are more.

i'm one of those rotten people who downloads albums early, so i've had this for a month or so (like most people). but when i first got it i shared scott's feelings towards this disc. however, over that month this album grew on me to the point where i was listening to it constantly. there are only a few weak spots, but the rest is great.
my problem is that i swear i remember scott replying to someone's post about this album saying that he had it and that it was really good. oh well.

this album licks cock, plain and simple. what a waist.

Am I the only one who likes this album? No, I'm not... a couple of my friends like it too.

Why do people always think that a band needs to completely revamp their sound everytime they put out a new album? even if it does take 3 years to put out.

I personally would be happy with 3 Danse Macabre's and I have not taken Wet From Birth out of my CD player since I got it.

My only is the lack of material. 10 songs in 3 years?! c'mon.

Sooo, anyone voting for Sense Fail on the new Launch ad on the left?

Heh.

- Kirby

P.S. -- Fuck you Ivan, you've flooed Pittsburgh!

absolutely right. this album does seem "half assed"

more like "the taint".