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Hazen St

Hazen St: Hazen StHazen St (2004)
Sony Music Entertainment

Reviewer Rating: 0.5


Contributed by: FaintlyFallingAshesFaintlyFallingAshes
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If you thought H20's Go was a pretty abysmal disc, you're going to wince in agnoy once you hear Hazen St. Hazen St is a "super-group" (if you want to call them that...) featuring Toby Morse of H20, Mackie Jayson of Cro-Mags, and Freddy Cricien of Madball (out of jail and ready to record). Now, wi.
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If you thought H20's Go was a pretty abysmal disc, you're going to wince in agnoy once you hear Hazen St.

Hazen St is a "super-group" (if you want to call them that...) featuring Toby Morse of H20, Mackie Jayson of Cro-Mags, and Freddy Cricien of Madball (out of jail and ready to record). Now, without any prior knowlegde of the band, you would probably think that they would be a throwback to the NYC hardcore scene of the 80's, like H20 were and Cro-Mags and Madball were apart of. Upon further investigation however, you'll completely second guess yourself.

The first thing you'll wonder is why the band is opening for Good Charlotte on thier fall tour alongside Sum 41 and Lola Ray. Why would a band featuring three members who were previously in hardcore acts want to play their material in front of thousands of 13 year old girls? It doesn't add up. Even if they are friends with Good Charlotte, it certainly isn't going to make them look good in the eyes of fans of their previous material to open for them. Then once you to delve deeper into things, you'll really get confused. The band is having their cd released on a label called DC Flag, which is owned by Benji and Joel of Good Charlotte and is a division of Sony Records. Things just aren't adding up, how does an NYC-based hardcore act get on a major label like Sony in this day and age? Unless Hazen St are some kind of power-pop punk act like Good Charlotte, but no, that can't be!, look at their lineup...

...No, it is. Hazen St are a power-pop punk act, and this cd is an abomination. This disc is unarguably the worst peice of crap to hit store shelves since John Mayer's latest CD. This CD is so bad that it makes Bowling For Soup look like Bad Religion.

Maybe i'm being a bit harsh, but seriously, who is going to enjoy this CD? Fans of H20, Cro-Mags and Madball are going to Van Gogh their ears when they hear it, while the 13 year old Good Charlotte fans aren't going to like it because Toby and Freddy's voices are too "rough" for them. Everyone else will probably just laugh their asses off.

What does this CD sound like? It sounds like Toby gave a copy of Go to the guy who produced the Simple Plan CD and said "Have a field day!" This is painfully annoying and faintly ridiculous, overproduced power pop-punk that has not only been done one million times before, but was never very good to begin with. All the instrumentation on this disc is simplistic and cookie cutter, and each song has one of those chouses that seem to have Z100 written all over it.

What about the lyrics? If you like powerful, rousing lines like

"We lead but never follow / Not like you / And I will never live by your rules, no! / Your words to me are shallow / They're just like you"
then you're gonna feel right at home. Everyone else who got sick of this kinda crap ever since it started showing up decades ago will just be bored, hopefully the majority of you are apart of the latter.

It also really makes me wonder how Toby and Freddy don't feel completely embarrassed singing songs like "Fool The World", "Sorry", and "All That". Even if you weren't fans of their previous work, you have to admit that they're capable of writing much better then any of this tripe. To go from being some of the most well recognized NYC hardcore acts to a band that is on the same level as Good Charlotte really has to make one stop and think. Maybe they just wanted to make a fast buck, either way I can't see anyone being proud of them for this. Listening to this disc is about as much fun as watching "Warped Wednesday" on FUSE staring The Starting Line.

If you're really curious to hear this record, please get it used or something. In the end you're probably only going to play it to laugh at it, and that alone isn't worth 14 bucks. What you end up with here is yet another power pop-punk band, but this time the vocals are ridiculous out of place. MTV may fool the kids into thinking that this is punk music, but they can't fool me.

 

 
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Anonymous (March 13, 2006)

i know they blow and all but fuck man, can't be worse than story of the year.

Anonymous (August 24, 2005)

I saw Hazen St. open a while ago for Story of the year. I was laughing the whole time!! It was like eminem blended with simple plan and good charlotte. The only thing cool about this band was the 300 pound bassist. I hope I never meet anyone who likes this crap.

danielXedge (August 9, 2005)

i really like this record

Anonymous (January 18, 2005)

everyone here is talking alot of shit about hazen street and i have seen them twice i am really big into agnostic front madball and H2O and love the hardcore scene.why is it bad if they sound a little popish? or are starting to gain a different fan base whats the difference.I liek toby and freddys voice thats why i listen 2 hazen street. i hope everyone that was talking about toby and freddy selling out never gos to a h2o or madball show again because i bet you stand in the back and wish u were having as much fun as every 1 in the pit and on stage singing along to the songs.i hope hazen street doesnt get big and if they do what can u do. because they will NEVER FORGET THIER ROOTS and allways come and represent at the small venues like CBGB's "those who talk shit are really somthing" AF

Anonymous (December 19, 2004)

i like the album, is pop, ok, but is good; maybe not the best
H-C album, ok, but is still good.
everybody talks about Toby and H20, buy your are forgetting madball and cro-mags (remember???? NYHC????).

greetings from Lanus!!!

MURPHDOGG (December 3, 2004)

I saw these guys headline thier first NYC show at CBGB's and I was blown away. I bought the album and became addicted. It's catchy melodies and street lyrics are infectious. It may not be hardcore, and it may not be punk, but it is damn good music.

Anonymous (November 15, 2004)

I went to the Good Charlotte Sum41 concert when they were in Ohio. I seen Hazen st. i thought they were great. I bought the cd and liked it to. It seems to me most of you are still on the guys old music like omg the old stuff was awesome but now theve change (they suck) Guess what i am 15 a huge fan of Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, and now Hazen st. If you don't like the cd good for you but as for me it will keep playin in my cd player till it breaks peace : )

Anonymous (October 31, 2004)

I have always thought it is very funny that a scene that basically is about fighting the rules has developed so many rules for itself. I really don't care if these guys have sold out or not (frankly I think worrying about that is for adolescents, no offence), so I'm judging this record only on the music.

Well, it's not as a bad as this review makes you believe but I would be lying if I would say this is a great album. It has some very decent songs (Tomorrow, Crossroads, Stick Up Kid) but most songs are mediocre (Fool The World) to just plain bad (All That). This is not the worst record of the year but it's very far from being the best (which, ofcourse, is the new Social Distortion album).

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

This CD is awful, but this review is an embarrassment to this website.

Its like a poorly written 8th grade book report.

Perhaps crap deserves crap, but at least spellcheck this little boys next review.

Anonymous (October 25, 2004)

Wait, this is worse than H20?

Is that popssible? It can't be?

Wait let me think - it could

slippy (October 24, 2004)

I can't even believe this is a real cd.

Anonymous (October 24, 2004)

I have never heard Hazen Street (absolutely nothing).

But.

I have also never seen a band get as savagely ripped apart on this website. And that includes Fenix TX and the days of the fatwa against DriveThru.

FortyMinutesWest (October 22, 2004)

"time to switch to hockey. So you think Recchi has another 25 goal season in him, even after the lockout? Does Mario have another scoring title? "

It depends on how much of a season there is. I think Mario could win a scoring title if there was a 48 game season. I don't think he can hold up for a full season without the linemates. Hopefully Edzo won't keep juggling lines around Mario like that douchebag Kehoe did. I never want to see him playing with Rico Fata and Guillame Lefebvre again.

Ringer0007 (October 22, 2004)

This is a classic hardcore album.

Anonymous (October 22, 2004)

I think the real tragedy is that some of you think that h2o has done anything decent in the last 10 years.

Anonymous (October 22, 2004)

Fucking horrible
0 fucking stars

poopypants (October 22, 2004)

time to switch to hockey. So you think Recchi has another 25 goal season in him, even after the lockout? Does Mario have another scoring title?

paul

FortyMinutesWest (October 22, 2004)

If Toby hadn't talked about his roots so much, no one would be giving him so much shit now. He fucked himself, I don't feel sorry for him.

Anonymous (October 22, 2004)

All your scene politics is bullshit. Always has been, always will be. All this crap about "oh no, toby forgot his 'roots'!!!" I don't like hazen street either but I'm not going to burn toby and h2o at the stake for two things that are unrelated. H2O will be recording a new record next year.

Anonymous (October 22, 2004)

I actually thought that fool the world was a good song. Are you ready is alright, that's 2of 3 songs that i heard. We can all stand back and make fun of this shit, but i thought the chorus of fool the world was catchy, and sometimes i listen to the lyrics of songs and connect, here i just thought it sounded cool.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

Ever hear the H20 song "Roots?" Where Toby keeps repeating "don't forget your roots?" I think we all can agree he forgot his roots. It's just one of those songs that's embarassing to listen to now that time has passed and things have changed. Like the old straightedge anthem "Force Of Change" by Strife (for those who don't know, they've lost their XedgeX). Just something funny to think about.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

Garbage. You shouldnt try to use someones being incarcerated a s an excuse to write shitty music. Usually you did somehting shitty to deserve that punishment (not always, but usually) so i dont think he has any right to do this. The fact that these kids have turned around and said "fuck" to their old ideals in order to get the young crowd to hand them a living and personal welfare for nothing makes them no better then trash. I have been in bands since i was 14, i work fulltime, go to college fulltime, and still sing in a band on the weekends, and im making my rent and taking care of my family. if i can do all this and still maintain my musical focus, anyone can. Fuck these guys and everything they stand for. Just because they "worked their asses off in hardcore bands" (as if writing music is work, if its work to you, then you shouldnt be doing it) doesnt give them the right to get money for doing nothing but embaressing themselves. Living isnt just about getting wealthy, its about respecting yourself and others repsecting you in the end. These guys will find that out the hard way and they deserve that shame. Fuck Hazen Street, and fuck you for defending them.

SINCERELY

!Greenvandal! (back for the moment, hope someone remebers me)

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

LOL, I was listening to Wasted Youth II by Blood for Blood when I read this line, "We lead but never follow / Not like you / And I will never live by your rules, no! / Your words to me are shallow / They're just like you", for some reason it has more of a credibility coming from Blood for Blood.

poopypants (October 21, 2004)

Please god tell me you A. didn't really find that on the hazen st. MB or B. you made that up. please.

it was hilarious none the less

paul

thirtyseconds (October 21, 2004)

I thought this was funny, from the Hazen Street message board:

I used to love the back street boys (forgive me, i was 9) and then GC, then came to love LP when I was 10.
we do have to start somewhere. And now I like alot of different kinds of bands. including GC, still.
I used to think BSB was the shit. But now I realize why people were making fun of them.

and I dress in all black and love to wear chains. I guess you could call me "punk". But when I wear pink or yellow I feel like an idiot, and i'm just not comfortable in anything unless its black or gray or something dark.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

Made

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

"The truth is, if you've been in and out of jail and almost died from getting stabbed, you'd consider "selling out" too. Freddie hs been in bands since he was, what, 12? While all you college kids can forget hardcore when you get "real jobs," he'll be stuck with a manual labor/shitty job if he can't make himself marketable to the music industry. And as for Toby? He's got a kid now, and needs to try to cash in while he still can. Hardcore doesn't provide a retirement plan, so he has to try something else if he wants to support his family. That's why they did Hazen St."

i will never forget punk rock...fuck you for saying shit like that

i could give a shit weather a band "sells out" or not, why not make a little money?

however, this music isn't even good enough to be marketable, and if it is, then i have lost all faith in humanity

- the other scott

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

toby, mackie and freddy are getting old. dudes probably want to get a nice chunk of change without having to get a real job.

this album could have been worse. I'll take it over good charlotte, midtown, or any other band who has more fashion sense then musical ability.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

clearly, I'm like the only person in the whole world that thought this album was OK. Nothing spectacular, but this is getting demolished in ever review I read.

Personally, I went in expecting a poppy record.
It wasn't mentioned in the review that Chad from New Found Glory (ex-shai halud) wrote most of it. His contract with Geffen prevented him from being an official part of a Sony released album, but it was him and Toby that did most of the writing.

I sort of dug "All That" and a few others.

*shrug*

That packaging is hystarical though. It's like they photoshopped their heads into the G-Unit album cover(s).

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

you can fool the world, but you cant fool me

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

So, is this record worse than Todd Morse's new band (with Juliette Lewis)?

It's almost as if H2O are going out of their way to embarrass themselves these days.

FaintlyFallingAshes (October 20, 2004)

Clarifying:

I took the Van Goh reference from Alkaline Trio. Of course they weren't the first ones to coin it, but i would have never thought of it wasn't for We've Had Enough.

Also, this record is terrible, end of story.

I'm glad the guys wanna support their families but this is not the industry to do so. The music industry nowadays (major labels actually) is pretty much if you're "hot", you get huge, if not then you get dropped.

kirbypuckett (October 20, 2004)

Wanna hear a good joke?

"Hazen St."

- Kirby

CrankWillDestroy (October 20, 2004)

'For the record John Mayer sings girly crap tunes. I like many different types of music, but he just shouldn't have cut his balls off. He sucks too much!'

Couldn't agree more. He is a great guitarist, but...ughhh

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I thought this album would have come out on side one crappy.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

thats supposed to be "one armed man for an elbow donation."

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

to the guy below. true hardcore doesn't have a retirement plan (talk to the record labels about that, not us), but that is no excuse for putting out a shitty record on purpose.

its that kind of attitude that (in the reviewers opinion) got them to put out a shitty record. so, these guys would rather have people with the same problems (no insurance, shitty jobs) subsidize their lifestyle by putting out shit? thats fucked up. thats like asking a armed man for an elbow donation.

i agree that its really shitt, that artists aren't covered by their labels, but its not out duty to buy a heap of shit so they can be comfortable. not all of us went to college, not all of us are stereotypically wealthy kids, not all of us have good paying jobs, but these guys had something that all of us never had; respect for the work they did, but they went and threw that away.

i work for a living, so do most people. i don't see any reason to put out bullshit on purpose so they don't have to work a real job. fuck that.

poopypants (October 20, 2004)

i meant 10 for the tp for my bunghole comment. 0 for this band.

poopypants (October 20, 2004)

"I need TP for my bunghole"

scores for that! and i am now calm.

and to the dude trying to defend these guys, making this band to 'cash in' and 'make a living now since hardcore won't work'...those are the worst, most unartistic reasons to make music. Anyone who wants to start a band so they can make a living off of it and pay the bills is in a band for the wrong reasons.

Look at Dillenger 4. their singer owns a bar/club, their drummer is a psychologist...they do D4 for fun, not for a living.

And while were on Van Gogh, the dude nearly starved to death and didn't make shit off of his paintings. But he kept painting. if these guys had any integrity they would keep making hardcore and fuck the money. get a real job if you have kids and need a retirement plan.

as for being in jail and blah blah blah. boo fucking hoo. boo fucking hoo. i have problems too assholes. you don't see me starting a pop punk band to solve them.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I posted the previous comment. Here's my score, not for the album, but for these guys who've busted there asses for so many years and deserve a shot at cashing in.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

The truth is, if you've been in and out of jail and almost died from getting stabbed, you'd consider "selling out" too. Freddie hs been in bands since he was, what, 12? While all you college kids can forget hardcore when you get "real jobs," he'll be stuck with a manual labor/shitty job if he can't make himself marketable to the music industry. And as for Toby? He's got a kid now, and needs to try to cash in while he still can. Hardcore doesn't provide a retirement plan, so he has to try something else if he wants to support his family. That's why they did Hazen St.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

To the dude below - calm it down.

I need TP for my bunghole

poopypants (October 20, 2004)

everyone knows that van goghing your ears is a reference to Van Gough cutting his ear off and sending it to his bitch, however, used in the context as an adjective "to van gogh ones ears" I have only heard Alkaline trio us it that way, in their song 'we've had enough'.

If you've heard someone say 'i'm going to van gogh my ears" before that recording, then good for you, but most of us never heard anyone say it before alk3 did and have yet ot hear it since , other than from the mouth of an alk3 fan, like this reviewer must be.

so quit being some all knowing asshole "dude whoever thinks van gogh is a reference to alk3 is an idiot" . You are the idiot my friend.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

What's with these ECHC cats doing pop records nowadays? Even Porcell is jumping on the pop wagon. If that's what they want to do, more power to them....I guess.

-ObeyYourParents

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

"John Mayer's a creep. H20 sucked balls even during their F.T.T.T days.

-Chinatown"

I think you mean F.T.T.W. They didn't suck at this time or any other. GO was weak but it didn't suck when you compare to most "punk" music out these days. My guess is you've done nothing during your pathetic life and think its really on the hipster tip to dis H2O now. At least they were great at one point in their careers you have always been wack. Believe that.

swingline (October 20, 2004)

"Cro-Mags and Madball are going to Van Gogh their ears when they hear it"

did someone really think this is an alk3 reference? if you did.. end yourself, hurry.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I have this CD, it's not as bad as this review makes out but it's certainly very far from great.
I heard they are using the money made from this to finance Madball and H2O recordings, tours etc which can only be a good thing

Bowen (October 20, 2004)

Walkling around at Warped Tour I stumbled across this band, I was really confused. I was kinda like, well, he looks familiar (Toby), but this music, what is this, this is horrible. Then I walked away.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

this CD is gayer than 3 dudes making out at a gay bar on Castro St.

I hope the old NYHC crew tars & feathers these schmucks next time they play NYC

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

i am embarassed for having read this review, this shit is fucking horrible

- the other scott

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

For the record John Mayer sings girly crap tunes. I like many different types of music, but he just shouldn't have cut his balls off. He sucks too much!

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

That's not really an Alk3 reference, it's a Vincent Van Gogh reference you douche bag!

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

Questions from first-time punker: "So Bowling for Soup isn't a hip group?" "So I should buy that new Jimmy Eat World record then?" "Is it safe to go to a concert by A Simple Plan?" "Are Adam Ant & Billy Idol still feuding over who invented punk?"

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I'd give this a 7.
No more commenting for me, as I'd be castrated by you fucking assholes.

poopypants (October 20, 2004)

This is as bad as everyone thinks, and thats rare on punknews.org. old washed up punks making bad pop punk for GC's label. who wouldve guessed that toby morse and freddy would end up benji and joels bitches.

I hope GC drops these guys from their label. that woud be the ultimate in irony.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I like this, i really do. Stick up kid is a great song.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

Fuck that, I happen to think this is a solid record with great hooks, and great stories of growing up in the ghetto. Something you asshat's would know NOTHING about with your beamers and shit. These guys are real. Punk or not, we're past that. They are as real as this shit gets.

well, no, fuck that, this band blows, i just noticed everyone was agreeing with the reviewer so i thought i'd spice shit up a bit. Fuck this band. And if anyone in the band reads this, I hope you got excited that someone was defending you. Think again though junior....you guys SUCK!

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

This CD is so bad that it makes Bowling For Soup look like Bad Religion.

Score is for that line alone!-TahoeJeff

killyouridols (October 20, 2004)

"Fans of H20, Cro-Mags and Madball are going to Van Gogh their ears when they hear it" ahah

thirtyseconds (October 20, 2004)

Score's for the Alkaline Trio reference. (Van Gogh)

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

hahahaha, comment of the day!

FortyMinutesWest (October 20, 2004)

Look out Transplants, there's a new sheriff in Sucktown.

joeg (October 20, 2004)

i was wondering when you were going to get on with the damn review of the record. you spent half the review commenting on how toby sold out and what bands they're touring with. this score is for the review.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

John Mayer owns.

CrankWillDestroy (October 19, 2004)

Should I download it anyway for a good laugh?

"We lead but never follow / Not like you / And I will never live by your rules, no! / Your words to me are shallow / They're just like you"

Did GC write those lyrics? It sounds like that song that goes -'i dont wanna be like you, just like you...'

DC Flag? what a fuckin joke.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

This is Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction.

What about the story of the hardcore band that sold out, only to make a horrible pop album years later?

If you thought it was fact, you were right.

-BSD

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Fact:Freddy Madball likes dudes
Fiction:This record is good

-adam

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

John Mayer's a creep. H20 sucked balls even during their F.T.T.T days.

-Chinatown

mcpike (October 19, 2004)

yea this is pretty terrible.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

This is worse than the New Found Glory Holes!

punkcorekid (October 19, 2004)

Yea I saw a good 2 minutes of their set at Warped Tour and felt ashamed for liking that one H20 song....

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

that gave me a good chuckle.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

dear lord this is sooooo bad. I figured it would be but goddamn....it's laughable

Even THE TRANSPLANTS are better than this shit

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

This album's decent. It's not supposed to be hardcore - it's just fun music with some cool guys who used to play hardcore

swingline (October 19, 2004)

do you fools see the powers of good charlotte??!

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

"This disc is unarguably the worst peice of crap to hit store shelves since John Mayer's latest CD."

John Mayer's latest cd was great. it may not be your thing, but the guy is an awesome guitarist, and a good songwriter.

thebouncingsoul (October 19, 2004)

this band is an absolute abortion

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

you went in thinking it was gonna be a huge hardcore album. they've already said that this isn't hardcore, and that you shouldn't expect it. i mean, it's not that good, i'd give it about a 6 or 7, but because i don't like you, it gets a 10.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

This crap makes me nolstalgic for CIV a sell-out hardcore act that didn't suck.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

cash it in, you washed-up suckers.
whatever happened to "my friends look out for me like family"?
p.s. benji and joel madden are the poster children for "what went terribly wrong with punk" hopefully their shitty label will last as long as their shitty clothing company although i will leave it up to you as to which has the more laughable name...."made" or "DC Fag" oh i mean "DC Flag"

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

I'm wincing in AGNOY

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

First to agree with the fact that this sucks.

TheOneTrueBill (October 19, 2004)

I watched 5 minutes of their set at Warped and was so totaly disgusted that I went and waited for 20 minutes for another band to set up instead of watching this.

And I'm a really big H2O fan.

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