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Leftover Crack

Leftover Crack: Fuck World TradeFuck World Trade (2004)
Alternative Tentacles Records

Reviewer Rating: 4.5
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I've never been so offended by a band in all my life. With a band name promoting drug use (and sodomy), with an album title disrespecting this great nation that so many heroes have died to protect, and with songs about murdering our fine boys in blue, who risk their lives everyday to make America a.

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I've never been so offended by a band in all my life. With a band name promoting drug use (and sodomy), with an album title disrespecting this great nation that so many heroes have died to protect, and with songs about murdering our fine boys in blue, who risk their lives everyday to make America a better place... quite disgusting. Oh, sorry, not disgusting... but quite the opposite. Would that be progusting? After three long years of waiting for Leftover Crack to release a new full-length, which included leaving the roster of Hellcat Records on bad terms, being banned from nearly every venue in New York City, signing to Alternative Tentacles Records, and having this record banned from main chain stores before it was even released, Fuck World Trade is here, and is incredible.

The record starts out with "Clear Channel (Fuck Off)", and just like "Mediocre Generica", has the classic same intro, which goes blazing into a roaring guitars, and screaming vocals. The song includes a personal "fuck you" to the likes of bands that show what is wrong with music today: Nickelback, Creed, Britney Spears, P.O.D. and Rancid. To include Rancid in that line of lyrics... I give LOC mad props for. To be on Hellcat Records (owned by Rancid) for years, to have Brad Minus (an ex-roadie for Rancid) in the band, which Rancid named a song after, and being in F-Minus (who is still on Hellcat), that's just incredible ballsy, and they get a high-five in my book.

"Life Is Pain" shows the band playing their fine brand of ska-punk on this disc. It's a song about how people should stop breeding, and polluting the earth. Funny how the songs goes, because I wrote an essay about the same thing, and how abortions should be mandatory years back in school, and after getting an "A" on the paper, was suspended from school for a week. "Burn Them Prisons" is a conspiracy song about cops caging every possible human they could, and to take control. "Gang Control" (originally performed by Ezra's band Morning Glory) has some new lyrics, and is a top-notch ska-punk tune. N.W.A. would be proud, with the line in the chorus of "Fuck The Police".

"Super Tuesday" is next, and has way too much spoken word pieces inserted into it, which makes the song somewhat skippable. "Via Sin Dios" (or "Go With God") is the sequal to the Choking Victim song "In My Grave", and though it contains no ska at all, it does have Anti-Flag screaming the chorus "six feet down and underground", which I'm sure will piss off 90% of people who call themselves "punk". The anti-bible track "Feed The Children (Books Of Lies)" comes in next, and kind of hits you in the heart with "No more books of lies instead of food' the hungry criiiied". "One Dead Cop" is about killing cops, and it's a good song. "Ya Can't Go Home" is a slow ballad, which is semi-reminiscent of Thursday in the first 15 or so seconds of the song... a song which should have been cut from the album.

"Rock The 40 oz." -- everyone has heard this song, but it's done slightly better here, with more rock, and some quirky violins. "Soon We'll Be Dead" is another slow ballad, but a million times better than "Ya Can't Go Home". The song features The World / Inferno Friendship Society jamming with LOC, and you can somewhat say this song might belong on a Flogging Molly record. "Gringos Son Puercos Feos" is a catchy song, but seems to drag just a tad bit. The record closes with "Operation: M.O.V.E.", which is the best track on this album. The song is about a team of police who burn the house of peaceful protestors, and as they struggle to leave the house, they are executed by a firing squad at the door. The violins, guitars, screaming, everything in this song... is fantastic.

To end, Fuck World Trade is the best thing to come out with this Crack Rock family of bands, and is a definite contender for best album of the year. My only complaints, which leads this to not get a full 10 score, is "Ya Can't Go Home", and "Super Tuesday". If they cut off "YCGH", and put the original version of "Super Tuesday" on the album, this would be a mint-perfect record.

Very much recommended to fans of music everywhere.

 

 
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Nomorekidsagain (July 24, 2013)

I just registered today and was using this site sporadically before ... was checking 5 different records and; hmmm is there and unwritten rule I am not aware of, i.e. that every record gets 4.5 of 5 points ;-)

majorthreat (October 29, 2011)

Great album that was WAY overproduced, but I love the cover

scttfrb (August 26, 2009)

Score for being arguably one of the best punk albums of the decade along with being fairly innovative and catchy as hell.

NoFuckingFuture77 (December 5, 2008)

Fuck anyone who does not like this album. Haha.

rayn147 (October 7, 2008)

The band's magnum opus. I like Star Fucking Hipsters, but Leftover Crack will always have a special place in my heart.

505Misfit (May 4, 2008)

I Love Evey Song off this FUCK'n album....... I hitchickeded to see these Crack CiTy ROCKers.... ANd yes it was worth every step . . . . .. .

charlesg123 (April 19, 2008)

I recomend this CD for any fans of Choking Victim, INDK, Morning Glory, No Cash, The Infested or Leftover Crack. Fuck World Trade is probably the best thing i have ever spent 12 euro on and by far the best CD in my collection and will leave any listener , regardless of taste in music, stunned and wanting more. Not for the easily offended and that is another reason for it's brilliance. Producing a peculiar mixture of Ska,Punk,Crust and Death Metal they create a diverse and unique sound while sticking to their origins and continuing the lecacy of the "crack rock steady beat." This album is a "must have" for any fans of the afore mentioned bands and also any followers of political punk. Unlike many other political punk bands who seem to focus on the same problems i.e police brutality, war etc., Leftover Crack expands the horizon, so to speak, including everything from anti-police songs to topics rarely mentioned such as abortions and the prison system. Adding credit to this albums musical diversity Leftover Crack team up with The World Inferno Friendship Society to perform a song which fans of old LOC songs who havn't heard this CD would have never imagined to hear on this bands CD. The two different bands compliment eachother very well and prove that punk doesn't always have to sound the same. Especially good songs that i recomend to listen to are : Gang Control, One Dead Cop, Rock The 40oz., Gringoes Son Puercos Feos and almost every other song on this album is filled with addictive riffs, agressive drums and thought-provocing lyrics which will guarenty that this disk stays stuck in your CD player for a long time.

Anonymous (June 2, 2007)

love this cd

HeroineBob (May 16, 2007)

I LOVE THE CRACK ALL THEIR MUSIC IS GREAT TO ME... STZA IS A GOD

that and Rock the 40oz is a great song as well

Nikole

wastachuck (February 24, 2007)

good, not great. Still one my fav. bands

chunk_loves_stza (February 23, 2007)

i think this album was the best music
i have ever heard. fuck everyone else
leftover crack amazes me
and i hope they continue to.
long live l.o.c.
the "gods" if you will
of music

timmytheturtle1039 (December 11, 2006)

Stza smells REALLY bad

DenBez (August 17, 2006)

God, Leftover Crack has stupid fans.

I liked this album more when I was 14.

miff (May 29, 2006)

my friend did a similar thing with the abortion essay thing
he said that abortions should be mandatory for thick people just to piss off the RE(christianity in disguise) teacher it worked tho but he didnt get expelled

Anonymous (April 11, 2006)

Its clear to see what leftover crack are trying to do in their music, is continue to stretch the borders of freedom of speech. By saying the things they do it keeps that notion alive and im glad this band exists, not for the messages that convey in there lyrics but for the action in which they take with there music. They are breaking censorship by governments and organisations in which control us, making it easier to embrase our thoughts and express them openly without being persecuted.
much love and respect - Andy

Anonymous (March 25, 2006)

"Our message isn't getting through. Fucker, even you got the message... our shitty band created a discussion" -I Spy

This is probably their worst album, and they're really not a very good band, but credit is due for the shit they stir.

Anonymous (February 28, 2006)

Also, for crack smoking, heroin shooting booze hounds they are amazing musicians .. when they can remember what they're sposed to play.

Anonymous (February 28, 2006)

I thought this was a good album. the only songs I disliked were "Feed The Children (Book OF Lies) and Life Is Pain. FTC just kidna bored me and I've heard life is pain way too many times.

As for shock value, Stza and Ezra both admit they use shock value like satanic imagery and what not.

Selling records, both said members still are homless squatters so obviously money doesn't mean shit to them. Stza now resides in Mexico because he's sick of the shit in America.

There were other points I wanted to address but I stopped caring

p.s. If you're going to write somethign that the public is goign to read, atleast know the language you're writing or else you look like an idiot.

Anonymous (February 17, 2006)

None of you people know what your talking about and should just shut up.As far as Rancid goes they were sold out the day i seen them on much music same as bad religon and any other good bands that WERE punk.How do punks live?They dont live in huge houses with millions of dollars they get drunk at a shitty bar and fight and do drugs squat shit like that.They dont sing about girls and being in love and stupid shit like that its about partying and puking and haveing fun and just fucked up shit.Besides some of the best punk band were before Rancid and Bad Religon,Sloppy Seconds is WAY better than those two band could ever be those guys are punks nice lars and tim and those other wimps. Pete Baker

Anonymous (February 12, 2006)

I love Leftover crack, I found this album to be well mastered in the studio. I liked they shitty garage sound which is what attracted me but its awesome to hear they are actully doing well and are respected. I think leftover crack is one on the most controversal bands in the punk scene but I think their awesome. This band also has a great style and the lyrics are amazing. I cant even esspress how good this bands lyrics are. Anyway they have my 10
From someone in the stright edge scene in the basement huffing gasoline, PEACE!!

Freak Scene

Anonymous (February 4, 2006)

via sin dios= the route/path to god

Anonymous (February 4, 2006)

By far the greatest album to ever be made... ever. It gos from nice fun songs like rock the 40oz to great mosh songs like Via Sin Dios and then to politicaly inpowering songs like Super Tuesday. This is a work of art and if the mighty LOC can some how top this then they aren't human. THIS ALBUM IS ABSOLUTE MUSICAL PERFECTION!

Anonymous (January 16, 2006)

"Leftover Crack is doing is simply trading on Sept. 11."
so did alan jackson the country singer

choking victim is the best band ever

Anonymous (January 4, 2006)

Can I ask what spanish translation?

GlassPipeMurder (December 29, 2005)

score is for the review, especially the god-awful spanish translation and saying "Ya Can't Go Home" should have been cut from the album. idiot.

GlassPipeMurder (December 29, 2005)

score is for the album

Anonymous (December 19, 2005)

I love Leftover Crack and every comment on this page makes it perfect. I love them the way i love The Phantom of the Opera or the way i love Aerosmith or the way i love Thursday. Its music with the perfect image to go with it. its fucking entertainment. i went to the LOC show with the same mindset i had when i saw Phantom of the Opera (the broadway musical, not the movie). I expected something at both events and it was perfect. at Phantom, the singers had beautiful voices and the props were huge and exciting, at LOC the opening band threw a guitar into the audience and i got blood all over my hands helping the guy who the guitar hit up. It all goes together perfectly like science. every comment on this board is absolutely perfect for the band and the image i have of them. its almost scary. they did what they did perfectly; their image is never contradicted. i am so happy right now. i love leftover crack. i love art. i freakin love it.

Anonymous (October 15, 2005)

Leftover Crack are about as good as having an arrow shot through your neck, then realising it has a gas bill attatched to it.

kamatacci (October 3, 2005)

My favorite album ever. Except maybe for Kemuri.

samshow420 (June 20, 2005)

Leftover Crack is one of the most enticing bands I've ever heard. Both Stz and Ezra are musical phenoms.....oh, and fuck Rancid.

Anonymous (May 28, 2005)

This band, while good, is ridiculously overrated/

Anonymous (May 6, 2005)

Fuck Rancid, their last album was complete shit.

LOC is so much better.

Anonymous (March 1, 2005)

Best Fucking Album i've heard in years.

Fuck World Trade, Fuck the Police and Fuck Clear Channel for playing Rancid on commercial radio.

Psychoos231 (March 1, 2005)

This album is good but I'll take the last Rancid album over this.

Anonymous (January 29, 2005)

This is probably the best album of all time. ALL TIME!!!! How do you like THEM apples?????!!! Anyway, about the whole Rancid thing in the first song of the album, it's probably not all about the censorship thing, although that is a good reason. The fact is....have you heard Rancid's last album??? Some songs are all right, but did you hear the worst song in the album that got mainstream play, what was it called.... "fall back down"? Piece of shit, radio-friendly, totally crappy song. I mean come on, that just sounds so fucking stupid. And if Rancid were political they would have so much more credibility, instead it's watered down punk that gets played on the radio. ANd let's remember that punk was political at the beginning. So bands like Blink and Good Charlotte aren't punk, they're junk. And Rancid can join them if they want.

Subinfinity (January 26, 2005)

LOC is incredible and this album gives me a warm fuzzy feeling all over...

Now that fanboy gush is done, comments:
Whoever said that LOC can't play their instruments didn't listen very closely... True, the distortion can make it hard to pick up on, but these guys know their shit.

anarchy: from greek, an = no, archos = leader(s). Not chaos (which, I believe, is also greek in origin). I think enough has been said about the ideology of anarchy here, so I won't go into it.

does anyone know what brandon's death means as far as the band goes? I think LOC is too important to just call it quits... (yes, I said important not cool or awesome or kick-ass, although they are those things as well.)

And there is a lot in FTW's lyrics about unity and solidarity, etc.

And the review was pretty lame.

Anonymous (January 22, 2005)

with u all the way man... haha/// did any of u guys catch that show? it was fuking amazing... my fav song is drug song... fuk it... thier fuking amazing n thtas all... ska or not ska..

Anonymous (January 21, 2005)

dude fuck you right in the ass, ya can't go home is one of the best songs on the album. if a band wants to express themselves about the bad shit they've been through, they deserve more props than for saying fuck the police.
especially if the problems they've faced are REAL problems. its not like he's whining about a girl that dumped him.......

Psychoos231 (January 9, 2005)

Gang Control is the only good song on here

Anonymous (December 20, 2004)

yea it was heroin... thank god i saw them dec.11th in palm beach... its terrible that he died... hey atleast he doesnt have to worry bout the '77s and colorblind n e more...

Anonymous (December 19, 2004)

Yep, but it was heroin.

-Jason Tate

Anonymous (December 19, 2004)

did the drummer die the night before last [17th] from a crack overdose?

Anonymous (December 9, 2004)

Best stuff ever released by L.O.C., second only to THE album of the century, none other than Chocking Victim's "No Gods, No Managers". But definatly the best Crack Family album. I think every song on this album is fvckin killa! Keep on the Crack-Rock Steady Beat!

Anonymous (December 1, 2004)

"abortions should be mandatory"

yuck

Anonymous (November 26, 2004)

Great album and i will admit the cover drew me to the album
9/11 was terrible
but so are some of the horrible things America have done

Anonymous (November 3, 2004)

It's a good album, but it ain't as good as anything else loc and cv have done. Althought I do quite fancy the piano/violin bits, it keeps the music fresh. Not enough ska though.

Anonymous (November 3, 2004)

hey crackers! that's THE record of 2004!!¨kick the asses, rocks with lyrics and is only wonderful to know, that there's bands who don't care about charts and trends! 10 POINTS!!

crizack (October 31, 2004)

this album is so awesome.

Anonymous (October 28, 2004)

you love it or you hate it! I do the first! :-)

Anonymous (October 27, 2004)

this band is gonna be on radio one! rawk onn!!!111111111111

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

To the guy below HELL YEAH!
"If you hit me, I'll sue"

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

By "insulting" Rancid, LOC just comes off like the whiney Tommy Gunn in Rocky V.

Shut the fuck up, cracker. Show some respect. Or you'll get taken out. And not even in the ring. It'll get settled on a Philly street and with tripboxing rules.

Fuck off.

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

"Bad Religion are businessmen... damn you're a fucking retard."

So....Mr. Brett being President Of Epitaph doesn't qualify him as a businessman? retard.

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

Rancid did not invent pop-punk. The Descendents and Mr. T Expierence have been do it for a hell of a lot longer.

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

Punk hasn't been independent since the early '90s. Sure, OpIvy practically built Gilman into the legend it is still now, and Bad Religion were quite influential. BUT, Rancid and Bad Religion are some the two most washed up corporate bands in the business (yes, business) now. Its bands like LoC who keep up the tradition so many others have have left.

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

"I think it's kinda funny that they'll take a shot at a band like rancid, when if it wasn't for bands like them, the guys in LOC would probably be pumping gas somewhere."

Yeah, cause rancid TOTALLY invented pop-punk and basically BUILT Gilman street from the ground up back when they were in 'Ivy (which they are happy to claim repeatedly). Before Rancid and Bad Religion existed, punk was essentially NOTHING. That these innovative and ground-breaking bands are still together and making AWESOME music, just shows how revolutionary and important they were to the independent scene we call punk.

-Ken

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

"I think it's kinda funny that they'll take a shot at a band like rancid, when if it wasn't for bands like them, the guys in LOC would probably be pumping gas somewhere."

Wouldn't you insult someone who betrayed you? Plus, they would still be squatting.

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

I think it's kinda funny that they'll take a shot at a band like rancid, when if it wasn't for bands like them, the guys in LOC would probably be pumping gas somewhere.

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

this cd owns as much as the others, i just wish LoC didn't
draw such impressionable fans.

Anonymous (October 26, 2004)

this cd owns as much as the others, i just wish LoC did draw such impressionable fans.

Anonymous (October 24, 2004)

Hey guys, I fuck a donkey looking Yoko groupie

-Alec Baille

Anonymous (October 24, 2004)

Hey guys, I fuck donkeys

-positiveXnoXmars

Anonymous (October 24, 2004)

Bad Religion are businessmen... damn you're a fucking retard.

Anonymous (October 24, 2004)

What really blows my mind is that this was reviewed in Short Fast and Loud Magazine....what?

What killed me even more was that the reviewer liked this record.

-Ken (perplexed)

Anonymous (October 24, 2004)

Bad Religion are a bunch of fucking businessmen. Seriously, I don't care about seeing some old rich dudes play some fast punk songs.

-BSD

KB (October 24, 2004)

man, its hard not to play a Clear Channel venue nowadays. I'm going to see Bad Religion and Rise Against next week and its on a Clear Channel venue. Are both of those bands sellouts too now?

Anonymous (October 24, 2004)

"They're dissing a band that screwed them over. If Tim really cared about the music instead of money, like he should, they would never have dissed them. Plus, once you play a Clear Channel venue, all of your credibility goes down the drain."

You're so fucking punk it hurts, Mr. Anonymus.

Anonymous (October 23, 2004)

They're dissing a band that screwed them over. If Tim really cared about the music instead of money, like he should, they would never have dissed them. Plus, once you play a Clear Channel venue, all of your credibility goes down the drain.

KB (October 23, 2004)

Yeah, go Leftover Crack for dissing a great band that gave them a shot and a record deal. I hope F-Minus gets dropped from Hellcat for that crap too....Cant say Ive heard the record yet, but I might as well give it a six, because Choking Victim used to be awesome...

Anonymous (October 23, 2004)

The people complaining about this album's cover art need to chill out a bit...

some1 (October 22, 2004)

god damn. the cover is obviously not pro-world trade center bombing. it's obviously showing that basically it was like those three guys burned the building down themselves.

you see the world trade center shit on the news all the goddamn time, why is it suddenly offensive when it's on a cd cover?

Anonymous (October 22, 2004)

"Ugh, you're an idiot, straight up. Are you kidding me? So our country, namely Bush, is responsible for the WTC collapse. No, crazy people who kill other people are responsible. Wait before you give me the old "Bush is a murderer too" thing, which I guess is slightly rational. Remember who's directly responsible for those attacks. Gahndi peacefully brought about change so don't tell me Osama, some crazy religious fanatic had no other choice. Place blame where blame should be placed. You have problems with the structure of our government, you better not be voting for Kerry and you better not be abstaining from voting. (abstain - To refrain from voting, I know you didn't know what that meant so theres some help you fuckin moron). You better be voting for someone you believe can change something and not just be screaming fuck bush at punk shows."

So you're comparing Osama bin Laden to Gandhi? For that alone you deserve castration. Osama is a terrorist...yes one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter but like you said...there are other options...but tell me...in the 1700s, did the colonists in America revolt peacefully against the oppressive British who tried control all the trade. Were Americans happy back then when they knew they were getting reamed up the ass by some foreign power? Yet the American Revolution is seen as one of the most amazing events in history. The people in the MIddle East are sick and tired of being pushed around by the United States...so they did something and are now getting fucked for it. Ya times are different but they want to be left alone. Tell me, if you had something valuable in your possession...would you like it if someone constantly tried to tell you what to do with it and tried to control you? Would you just sit back and let them push you? NO, you'd punch the fucker in the face. This is the same situation...terrorists hit back...it's just the US is the bully of the world and is using that to take the valuable possession (Oil in case you didn't get it yet) away from the Middle Easterners.

dazed (October 22, 2004)

Dammit, I need money to buy this. I thought Mediocre Generica kind of sucked until recently, then I took another listen recently. Now I like it just as much as Choking Victim.

Anonymous (October 22, 2004)

Good, but i was expecting better from these guys-oldpunker

vocalyouth (October 22, 2004)

overall, the album is alright.

Operation: MOVE is a great song. I played it for a few people and then told them who it was and they didn't believe me.

Anonymous (October 22, 2004)

"Are the majority of the "youth" of this country really as ignorant as they are displaying in the posts about this album? Are you people really so thick that you can't see the message behind the cover of the album? Christ- it's not making fun of the fact that 9/11 happened; it's showing who is responsible and who is keeping it going. All of you who are "so offended" by the album cover are pissed at the wrong people. Try directing that angst towards the ones who started this whole mess... not the ones who are saying something about it.
If you all are really this stupid, there is no hope for the future."

Ugh, you're an idiot, straight up. Are you kidding me? So our country, namely Bush, is responsible for the WTC collapse. No, crazy people who kill other people are responsible. Wait before you give me the old "Bush is a murderer too" thing, which I guess is slightly rational. Remember who's directly responsible for those attacks. Gahndi peacefully brought about change so don't tell me Osama, some crazy religious fanatic had no other choice. Place blame where blame should be placed. You have problems with the structure of our government, you better not be voting for Kerry and you better not be abstaining from voting. (abstain - To refrain from voting, I know you didn't know what that meant so theres some help you fuckin moron). You better be voting for someone you believe can change something and not just be screaming fuck bush at punk shows.

Anonymous (October 22, 2004)

John Dolan died in 9/11???? WHAT? THE FUCK?

Anonymous (October 22, 2004)

This is a great album. This is a shitty review. First Off.
No Gods/No Managers>Fuck World Trade>Mediocre Generica
Now. You cant go home is a great song. Just cause it doesnt fit yer mold of what they should sound like is irrelevant. Via sin dios which actually means something like "live WITHOUT god" is a better song to get cut from the album. It is filler. If you are to criticize anything about this album its that the drums sound like crap on almost every track. I can play drums better than this candy asshole. Another thing is that some of the songs have been recprded before or released before. The speed of the recordings suck too. The live versions of "life is pain" and "ya cant go home" are at a more suitable speed. The last thing that bothers me about the album is LOC blending the world trade center into the sphere of the world trade organization. These are 2 DIFFERENT THINGS! If you are as smart as you present yourself dont confuse these two. NOT THE SAME. By the way...RANCID is fucking awful. That band was talented in 93. They are commercial clowns now. Sorry. Ya know its true.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

Are the majority of the "youth" of this country really as ignorant as they are displaying in the posts about this album? Are you people really so thick that you can't see the message behind the cover of the album? Christ- it's not making fun of the fact that 9/11 happened; it's showing who is responsible and who is keeping it going. All of you who are "so offended" by the album cover are pissed at the wrong people. Try directing that angst towards the ones who started this whole mess... not the ones who are saying something about it.
If you all are really this stupid, there is no hope for the future.

CrankWillDestroy (October 21, 2004)

Let me guess...those 2 or 3 comments below me are by the same person...

Hey, you don't like them? fine.
Go listen to your Hawthorne Heights cd.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

These guys sound like a band out of my old high school. And that band sucked already. These guys suck worse.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

These dumbfucks know about current politics about as much as Paris Hilton.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

I read their interview in AP. This band is fucking retarted.

Nice try guys. Here's a big 'fuck you'.

ElVaquero (October 21, 2004)

Tower records.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

Where dont they sell the cd?

kenjamin (October 21, 2004)

I feel BSD's comment was aimed at me so I'll have to respond. Maybe in Kansas where NYC is 1000 miles away and in LA where NYC is 2000 miles away the feeling ofpersonal loss is not felt as much but in the tri-state area there are people still reeling from the loss of a loved one. I understand your point completely and I agree with the band on this issue. However, I don't think it's fair that my neighbor who lost his father in the attacks has to walk into Tower records and see a picture of some guys pouring gasoline on the burning World Trade Center building where his dad worked and perished. Especially if he's never heard of this band and doesn't understand what their message may be.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

for the record. slagging Rancid and Hellcat is one mans opinion,not mine.
let us all live in peace.

brad logan-

Not-To-Regret (October 21, 2004)

For the first or possibly second time ever... I agree with BSD... if you can't see past the gimmick that LOC is pushing then you're not seeing the big picture. They're against ignorance, violence, exploitation and injustice, and that's exactly what I'm against. Any progressive minded person would be...

And to the guy who says this album is way better than the newest Rise Against, Green Day, and Bad Religion albums needs to realize that these guys barely know how to play their instruments... but their passion and originality outweighs that.

i-type-poorly (October 21, 2004)

this band is a textbook example of "tries to hard"

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

What's funny is that even though you guys are so fucking upset about this band and Jello, you are upset because you don't have the ability to look beyond the shock-value they use to make a point.

It's also funny how no matter how many times I explain that the cover is not a 9/11 joke, you just say "yeah, I know, and I don't care! It's in bad taste, blah blah"

Clearly, LoC have strong feelings about the exploitation of thousands of lost lives by the government for oil. Are we supposed to shut it out and forget it ever happened? This stuff effects us all, and they are saying something beyond the shock value, but yeah, keep up with the "this is in bad taste, you can call me a poser, but this is in bad taste!" talk.

-BSD

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

"Don't you know profiting off of people dying is punk now?

So's robbing graves. Bet you that's the next act Jello will sign. He'll tell you they're misunderstood, too." - primeevil7

That's fucking funny as all hell.

Yeah, I don't like this band, I don't like their songs, and I don't like their schtick. Sorry I'm not punk enough.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

Fuck everyone who was in the WTC on 9/11/01. I'm glad them and all the fire fighters and cops died. There it was said, pussies.

"Awww but my daddy was there" So fucking what, go cry a river somewhere else.

This CD rocks it out.

~FlamebaitNickLoving

Comment of the day award.

-sickboi

You are two pieces of crap.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

"However, I've never liked punk and am a fan of indie, emo, and crust so what the fuck do i know?"

Realize that emo, crust, and a lot of indie ARE punk. That's whatcha do!

-BSD

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

if ya like this check out 2.5 Children Inc.. buy at creeprecords.com

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

That Z-Net article is awesome as balls. And if actually took the time to read and be informed and thought about what the article said, and you still think that voting for a democrat is any better than voting for a republican, you are a smacked ass. John Kerry has never said he wouldnt have gone to war or that he would end the war in Iraq. He has repeatedly said he would never stop fighting the terrorists at home or over seas. Both candidates are fighting the same exact war against "terrorism", both candidates are from parties who are paid by the same rich companies and both candidates will take us further down the path of fasicism which we are walking. And the new Crizzack album is awesome.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

Last I checked Leftover Crack didn't support Kerry or (obviously) Bush.....to the person below. Bands like this one and Propagandhi have stayed relatively negative about both parties.....though much more so about the Republican party, but with good reason. Both blow, but I'd choose a Democrat anyday over some fuck who is just going to continue fighting a "war" which CAN NEVER be won, by any means at all. The "War On Terror" is a joke...terrorists exist everywhere- yes, the Middle East, but also Europe, Asia, and the US. A. The greatest weapon against terrorism is an open mind, most European countries are twice as free as America, but the Mid-East isn't concerned with them...there's a reason for this. Maybe if American's would quit acting like they own the world and decide to become PART of the world we would stop being hated by 3rd world countries and laughed at by superior European countries. No other "modern country" in the world has as much crime, racism, violence, and ignorance as the US has. Not to mention the shocking lack of education.

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

Ugh idiots. If they really think that they're complete morons and if they're just doing it for attention they're completely undermining the point they're trying to get across. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=33&ItemID=5 083

kenjamin (October 21, 2004)

I see the connection between the 9/11 attacks and Halliburton and agree it's bullshit but I still think the cover is offensive and inappropriate. However, I've never liked punk and am a fan of indie, emo, and crust so what the fuck do i know?

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

tastycakes

Anonymous (October 21, 2004)

I read two paragraphs and stopped because it sounds like this is the stupidest fucking record ever. Yeah! FUck everything! PUNXXXXXXXXX

jamespastepunk (October 21, 2004)

"these spics should go the fuck back to mexico."

Down the racism!
Up the unity!

But seriously, dude...that's not funny or appropriate.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I think those LOC requests were done by more then one person. I typed in one of the comments but someone else did the rest.

Icapped2pac (October 20, 2004)

"she'll be able to fucking own the nursing home circle pit..."

It might be the bowl I just smoked, but that creates a hilarious visual in my head.

Also, if you need something else funny, go listen to the guitar solo on track #2 of the new Strung Out album; you'll laugh your ass off. I didn't know they had Yngwie Malmsteen (or was it C.C. DeVille?) as a guest on that album. So far the rest is pretty good though.

As for LoC, I'm ecstatic like the rest of you that somebody finally wrote a review for this so that fuckin dickbrain asshat can rest his fat fingers (or typing wand). I couldn't care less about the band, though. I think I'll make myself a sandwich and listen to some Slapstick instead.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

"but worse than new Rise Against, Bad Religion and Green Day"

You have GOT to be kidding me! this is a fucking joke right? FWT is way better then a medicore major label and 2 shitty washed up bands that should have hung it up a long time ago.

Not-To-Regret (October 20, 2004)

I have this CD, but I don't think it deserves such high acclaim. They're playing super basic punk riffs and throwing in the occaisionaly uneccesary violin or piano. Very little ska... for a group of guys that got their notoriety from their ska songs. Too many long "fuck capitalism" anthem-type songs.

It's still a decent record, but worse than new Rise Against, Bad Religion and Green Day.

CrankWillDestroy (October 20, 2004)

'This band are shit'

Wow, and you're quite possibly retarded.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

Best cd of the year. It's a shame that there is so many people in punk who want to censor what other people can see and listen too. This punk friends not sunday fucking church.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

If your Gramdma love Handel, then shes a pussy. Tell her to get ahold of some bootlegs of Ives or Stravinsky... then she'll be able to fucking own the nursing home circle pit...

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

this cd is really fucking good. it's nice to hear a song that fuses punk, ska, and metal. even though this is a solid album, i still am a bigger fan of "no gods, no managers" and "kill whitey" over this. but this definatley rules.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

"Very much recommended to fans of music everywhere."

My Gran loves Mozart, Handel and all that stuff, would she really like this?

ElVaquero (October 20, 2004)

1. LOC/CV/INDK/MG/etc. do give their shit away for free, I got an almost complete collection of the family's stuff from their website back when it was fuckworldtrade.com (which apparently is some yu-gi-oh card shop site now, brilliant!) while i think this is a nice model for me, it's probably not going to help boost their sales (as opposed to the epitaph model of releasing one song before release and an additional afterwards, i'm a huge fan of this model) but it is certainly an interesting idea and proves that they care more about getting the message and music out there than they do about record sales (though i do plan to buy a lot of the catalogue as soon as I can find a store carrying this shit). I think this kind of negates the challenge that they are simply using the cover as shock value; obviously, it is a confronting and shocking cover, but I think it is used in a way to draw you in to see the political commentary within the picture AND the album. Compelling work for sure, I applaud it.

2. Via Sin Dios does mean "go without god," as opposed to the common phrase "Via A Dios" which some of you might recognize in it's shortened form: "Adíos." Again, clever.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

A good listen, but "Mediocre Generica" was a lot better in my opinion. I don't know why anyone would take these guys seriously.

-ObeyYourParents

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I for one do not give a flying fuck about LoC's politcal views but their music is badass so i can overlook their "shock" image.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

This band are shit, there's no denying it.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

Good album, decent review at best.

CallingLondon (October 20, 2004)

i didn't realize there was anyone to blame BUT the US

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

Ronald Reagan indirectly caused 9/11....just thought some of you should know. He also helped Sadam....but I guess you idiots are too busy blaming everyone but the US itself, which is really responsible. The US always bitches and complains about monsters that it knowingly creates.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

Good review!

- The reviewer.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

" "Via Sin Dios" (or "Go With God") "

its been a while since i've taken a spanish class but i'm pretty sure that means "go without god"

anyways, this band is fucking horrible

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

(insert psuedo-intellectual talk about the the wtc here)_____________________________________

(insert some comment about how anyone who disagrees is obviously a pussie bible-pushing, bush-backing, ignorant blind patriot and just "doesn't get it" or "missed the point" here)_________________________________________________

lou (October 20, 2004)

this is either the most interesting, or the stupidest, political debate i've ever followed on this site.

and thanks to the guy who suggested the book. i kind of want to read it.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

"You're out of your element, Donny. "

-Scott

pure gold scott

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

why would they give away their albums for free? they don't want to lose money........?

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

LOC = Offensive just for the sake of being offensive. Seriously if you took away all their "shocking" lyrics it would be easier to realize their music is simply mediocre.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

This album is great....Leftover Crack are the meaning of punk rock and the only ones with the balls to really speak the truth. To all idiots on this board- they are not poking fun at the vicitms of the FAR too drawn out 9/11 tragedy. They are attacking what world trade stands for and what the US has used 9/11 to promote. If you call that "using the deaths of thousands for profit" you need to be shot.....not to mention it's highly doubtful LOC will see very much profit from this record at all. Secondly, you all need to shut the fuck up about Sept. 11th, sure, it was terrible...but no worse than a million other atrocities that happen yearly in other countries. The US has already killed 5 times (atleast) as many innocent civilians in Iraq in comparison to the amount that died on 9/11...and no it isn't for the "greater good". What about Hiroshima? You want some real horro, go look at the aftermath of the a bomb. No one's trying to downplay 9/11....but it is what it is....the only reason people treat it "special" is because it happened in the ignorant US of A.

xmidipunkbastardx (October 20, 2004)

(before someone else says it:)
where's the q and not u review?

gladimnotemo (October 20, 2004)

:edit:

...don't like Rancid...

gladimnotemo (October 20, 2004)

"sidenote: what were propagandhi's jabs at rancid in the past? anyone?"

Propagandhi say stuff like real punks like Rancid, but then again, in the same interview, they said "real punks don't vote." But then AGAIN, Propagandhi say they hate punk.

So they have no real reason to talk, because they're assholes. I love their music a lot, but they talk too much, most of the time.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

"can someone explain what the whole f-minus deal is? is there some beef between them and loc?"

The singer of F-minus is playing guitar in LOC, so no ill will.

some1 (October 20, 2004)

why the fuck should you not be able to say that something sucks unless you have a better alternative? that's a fucking stupid thing to say.

you know, I think cancer sucks, but I don't have the cure for it. so I guess I shouldn't talk bad about cancer.

and i don't like circus peanuts, but I can't make them better so I guess I'll just eat them and say they're awesome.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

dammit someone right below me beat me to the punch. Foiled again!

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

Only idoits believe anarchism will lead to "chaos" and the random kililng of people by bands of merauders ala mad max.

"...and what's wrong with anarchism? it's a theory."

Democracy and capitalism are theories as well. Democracy hasnt really been truly implemented and capitlism is a complete failure.

anarchism advocates a society based on voluntary cooperation. but once people cooperate, there becomes an order to things, and in it's most basic sense, anarchism is disorder. so technically true anarchism couldn't exist. and even if a utopia (or dystopia depending on how you look at it) in which anarchism was the system of non government were to exist, the complete freedom mixed with many things that fundamentally make us human would lead to chaos. thus it wouldn't work. so now could YOU please fuck off? k? thanks."

That's to assume that the only thing that makes us human is technology. Anarchism is basically just libertarian-socialism; it is not "disorder."

"anarchism advocates a society based on voluntary cooperation."
While you are in a small way correct, you are making the mistake of blaming the emergence of socio-economic hierarchies on "cooperation" i.e., collectivism (this is all in a nutshell, layman's temrs if you will. almost dumbed down). The real enemy to such a society is the division of labor.

For thousands if not millions of years humans have lived without formal government and flourished. However, we think of them as "savages." Anarchism is nothing new. We only think of it as a new, (new as in the last 200 years) utopian dream because it has only been formally introduced to our culture for so long. The basic priniciples of anarchism could be achieved for the betterment of society as a whole, as well as the future or our planet, but we have to give up certain things in order to achieve it. I'd rather live knowing that I can provide my family with all that they need to live, than to have no medicine and still drive a hummer.

You people ought to read some more. Start out with Daniel Quinn's Ismael...

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I don't make a habit with arguing with morons on the internet but I feel compelled.

You seem to automatically assume that anarchy=chaos, im sure you would assume nothing else, no big suprise from the MTV generation. Anarchy is not chaos, Anarchy is not lawless, Anarchy is indivdual responsibility. Tell me, if someone breaks into your house and steasl your TV (or mommys tv in your case) what stops this criminal from doing this? the law? cops? democracy? ha give me a break, cops don't give a fuck about your TV and they sure don't give a fuck about you, we already live lawless. People are not born greedy self centered consumer whores, they learn to be that way threw massive over consumption, so please save me the "human nature" speel. I suggest you stop talking out of your ass and feel free to S-H-U-T THE FUCK UP!

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

This album is really a step down from the past stuff they did, I just wasn't really feeling it. They should just play Morning Glory songs because they are so much better. None of the songs on this album can compete with "Say Something True" in terms of rockingness.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

all i'm saying is if they're going to make the premise of their music how the gov't doesn't work, i'm curious to know what the fuck their bright ideas are. it's fucking apathetic to bitch and cry about the current system of gov't without so much as giving even the anti-flag "we have to unite"bullshit or something of the sort.

...and what's wrong with anarchism? it's a theory. anarchism advocates a society based on voluntary cooperation. but once people cooperate, there becomes an order to things, and in it's most basic sense, anarchism is disorder. so technically true anarchism couldn't exist. and even if a utopia (or dystopia depending on how you look at it) in which anarchism was the system of non government were to exist, the complete freedom mixed with many things that fundamentally make us human would lead to chaos. thus it wouldn't work. so now could YOU please fuck off? k? thanks.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

where's the review for the new hilary duff album?

how come people confuse art that makes you uncomfortable and challenges the way we feel about or interact with history and memory as "disrespecftful?"

it seems as though this album and the cover art are not trying to bring a different language to a conversation we've been having for too long.

i'm glad this band exists.

>>>>

sidenote: what were propagandhi's jabs at rancid in the past? anyone?

joeg (October 20, 2004)

can someone explain what the whole f-minus deal is? is there some beef between them and loc?

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

I like how people come on Punknews.org and shit on a band for political becuase they can't give them a legitimate alternative to the current system in a 30min cd. Man it's POLITICS, LOC are not claiming to have the answers to all of societys problems, and who the fuck does? and what's wrong with anarchy? capitalism and "democracy" as a system don't work so shut the fuck up please and thank you.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

1) thank you for finally posting this review so that fuckhead will shut the fuck up about it now

2) if LoC "encouraged" the free distribution of their music they'd give their cds away. they need to make money just like anyone else.

3) to all those who find humor in making ignorant comments in the hopes of offending someone; it didn't work, it's not funny, and your parents will never love you. you're a failure and they have better shit to do (like smoking crack) than pay attention to you. so kill yourselves.

4) can someone explain how LoC pissing and moaning about big gov't, the bush administration, corrpution, exploitation, etc. constitutes a politcal statement? i mean, anarchism obviously couldn't work... so then what? i'm no fan of the two party system myself, but what do they stand for other than killing cops? please don't use the excuse i'm missing the point. to me their music is just as much propaganda as anything you'll see on TV or read in the newspaper only it appeals to a different group of people, who are no better than those accused of "blind patriotism" ...i just wish people would form their own opinions about shit.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

Leftover Crack is just pointing out that the WTO is fucking over the working man here in the states. Fuck World Trade is the best album of the year. The person that said the songs are too long, take your boyfriends cock out of your ass and actually listen to these songs. Don't judge an album by looking at the lengths of the songs. Haven't you ever heard of intros?
Southpaw954

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

Sorry mr. Reviewer - "Super Tuesday" is the fucking song of this album. I gotta say I like the earlier released version better...the bass drumming comes through better on the mix.

Anyway, this album is great. Best thing on AT in a LONG time!

-Ken

lostinthecrowd13 (October 20, 2004)

I agree that the band was trying to make the point that the government exploited the victims of 9/11 for their own gain but this just kinda screams "pay attention to me!"

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

just in case you people dont notice this but the people on the cover are george w bush, dick cheney, and rudy guiliani

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

"The cover art is there in my opinion because LoC realized that if they did something they knew would push buttons, good or bad, they'd sell records, thus exploiting the dead."

LOC doesn't give a damn about album sales. They have always encouraged the free distribution of their music.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

i'd like to point out that Against All Authority burn Ranicd.

Anonymous (October 20, 2004)

thank god this lump of shit finally got reviewed so i don't have to see "why'd they review this??, where's the the new leftover crack review? waa waaaa" ever fucking time i come to this site.

jamespastepunk (October 20, 2004)

"So did Nas. You got a beef with him?

For that matter, so did Monty Python in "The Life Of Brian." You got a beef with John Cleese & Co.?

BSD is right. The cover art isn't trying to exploit the victims of 9/11. It's trying to show you that they were exploited by our government. You may or may not agree with them. That's the beauty of America; freedom of choice."

Mr. Manson differs from those other two characters because of his lyrical message. I don't see Nas calling himself in all seriousness the next savior of the world. Monty Python was trying to be funny, and triumphed.

The cover art is there in my opinion because LoC realized that if they did something they knew would push buttons, good or bad, they'd sell records, thus exploiting the dead.

So, I must respectfully disagree, which, as you say, is the beauty of America.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Great album but a shitty shitty review. Leave the good albums to decent reviewers

maverick (October 19, 2004)

"Manson put himself up on a cross, attempting to emulate Jesus Christ. Enough said."

So did Nas. You got a beef with him?

For that matter, so did Monty Python in "The Life Of Brian." You got a beef with John Cleese & Co.?

BSD is right. The cover art isn't trying to exploit the victims of 9/11. It's trying to show you that they were exploited by our government. You may or may not agree with them. That's the beauty of America; freedom of choice.

-Scott

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

The reason Ara Babijan left the band was because of Stza's remarks towards 9-11.

jamespastepunk (October 19, 2004)

Manson put himself up on a cross, attempting to emulate Jesus Christ. Enough said.

I'm arguing on behalf of myself and no one else.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Why the hell should we "respect the dead," is anyone afraid of hurting their feelings? Hahahahaha!

CrankWillDestroy (October 19, 2004)

Great Album, great band.
I will definitely buy this (i DL'd it) once I have enough $.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

PS- Are you still stupid enough to think this is an attack on innocents who died on 9/11, or are you just arguing on behalf of the WTO at this point?

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Fuck everyone who was in the WTC on 9/11/01. I'm glad them and all the fire fighters and cops died. There it was said, pussies.

"Awww but my daddy was there" So fucking what, go cry a river somewhere else.

This CD rocks it out.

~FlamebaitNickLoving

Comment of the day award.

-sickboi

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

"Perhaps I was unclear. What I believe Leftover Crack is doing is simply trading on Sept. 11. What I believe their view is to make money by putting the most "shocking" thing on there. Blatantly putting on horrible images figuring if it smells it sells. "Hey, it worked for Manson" they thought."

You still don't understand.

For one, punk bands have had controversial album covers since the 70's, it's almost integral in political punk. To suggest that a crust band from New York is immulating Marilyn Manson only shows your ignorance.

Manson is quite safe. The goth thing was popular. It's never been popular to be politically outspoken.

Look into the cover. It doesn't say "fuck America", it doesn't say "fuck the WTC", it says "Fuck World Trade", and I think you need to learn that there's a big difference between what the WTC stood for and what it actually was. It isn't a picture of Osama Bin Laden flying into the towers, it actually has a point. It's making fun of the system that EXPLOITED those who died on September 11th.

You need to start looking into things before you blindly cast them as something they're not.

-BSD

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

My both of grandfathers nearly died in World War II.

Boat of grandfathers?!?!?!

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Scott,

I nearly had members of my family die in September 11th, and I'm not going to let these guys get away with this horseshit.

You know how people will say anything to get attention? Same deal here. They've put some of the worst pictures to memory, then add some far, far, far, far left wing bullshit and try to pass it off as a statement? I'm not buying.

I'm sorry, this is not going to fly.

Too bad they didn't die fiery deaths, cuntwad!

-Jason Tate, Leftist Xtreem!

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

I checked the tracklisting at allmusic.com, and found some of the songs to be too long. I won't be buying this. Bands like this should stick to songs under 3 minutes. I'm sure it's a fine album, but that's beyond my point. Boinkers.

-Chinatown

skankin_in_the_pit (October 19, 2004)

"To end, Fuck World Trade is the best thing to come out with this Crack Rock family of bands"

I forgot to mention that comment is CRAZY, and I really like this. At best i'd put it 4th.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Great comment by Primeevil7.

Jon Stewart was right, and the transcripts from Crossfire are worth reading if you haven't already seen his showdown with the Republican version of the X-Men villan Arcade.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

almost every band you listen to plays clear channel venues.

jamespastepunk (October 19, 2004)

"My both of grandfathers nearly died in World War II. Do you see me hating the Dropkick Murphys for putting soldiers with bayonets on the cover of The Gang's All Here? Your logic is inherently flawed.

And Choking Victim/Leftover Crack/etc. exist to get attention [as do you, with your blindly patriotic post]. They want to open peoples' eyes to other possibilities. No one will make you agree with their opinion; they're just asking you consider it.

And did you "buy" it when multiple national news organizations showed the footage of the planes crashing into the twin tours hundreds, if not thousands of times in the weeks after the tragedy? They sensationalized the actual act far more than Leftover Crack are doing here. They're merely sensationalizing the motivation behind the act. "

If my post was blindly patriotic I'd say something along the lines of Mr. Bush's leadership will shine through. I think I've been pretty clear in previous posts on the issue of Mr. Bush that his presidency is one of the worst in the history of the country. I simply wish to be respectful of the dead, something LoC is not doing.

Perhaps I was unclear. What I believe Leftover Crack is doing is simply trading on Sept. 11. What I believe their view is to make money by putting the most "shocking" thing on there. Blatantly putting on horrible images figuring if it smells it sells. "Hey, it worked for Manson" they thought.

Your parallel between your grandparents and World War 2 doesn't work. The Dropkick Murphys weren't putting on images of soldiers for shock value, but because its part of the culture they come from. The difference is Leftover Crack doesn't give a fuck about the dead, and is suggesting some of the most absurd left wing rhetoric out there, that the President knew exactly when, where, and how, and allowed it to happen, AND encouraged the attack for the sole purpose of having their name "out there", which will sell them more records.

P.T. Barnum: I don't care what you say about me as long as you get my name right.

Our *ahem* brilliant 24 hour news media has taken Sept 11th way too far, yeah. Don't get me started on those channels save that they're not news anymore, they need to find ways to fill up time, so any real news is put on the bottom of the screen, and everything you watch is simply someone feeding one party line or another.

Jon Stewart was right.

skankin_in_the_pit (October 19, 2004)

Pretty shitty review but better then I could do. Great fuckin' album. It always amazes me how seriously people take this band. BSD is right, some people really just don't get it.

This is up there with Bones Brigade, Stockyard Stoics, and Bad Religion for album of the year. Maybe the new Big D and Sick Of It All too.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Well, Rancid does play Clear Channel venues now, so that makes them a valid part of the song. Also, if Tim cared about the bands so much, he would have fought tooth & nail for their right to use the original title "Shoot the kids at school," but he didn't and that makes him a little less cool.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

LOC are not the only ones who take stabs at rancid. Propagandhi have done it for years, but I can understand, Tim Armstrong has lost something since his days of Op-ivy. Seems more about making money with him then the bands or music.

gladimnotemo (October 19, 2004)

"To include Rancid in that line of lyrics... I give LOC mad props for. To be on Hellcat Records (owned by Rancid) for years, to have Brad Minus (an ex-roadie for Rancid) in the band, which Rancid named a song after, and being in F-Minus (who is still on Hellcat), that's just incredible ballsy, and they get a high-five in my book."

...I never saw that lyric until now. Hm.

This is the only problem I have with Leftover Crack. They make Tim Armstrong personally responsible that the printers wouldn't do Mediocre Generica as they originally intended. That was between Epitaph and the printers, was it not? How could Rancid have a hand in it? How was Tim Armstrong personally responsible? I understand "selling products", with the Transplants, but whatever.

...and there's an unreleased F-Minus song on the new GETB comp. So, obviously, it's a LOC deal, not Logan's.

Whatever.

This review is kinda 'eh'. This album is not.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Fuck everyone who was in the WTC on 9/11/01. I'm glad them and all the fire fighters and cops died. There it was said, pussies.

"Awww but my daddy was there" So fucking what, go cry a river somewhere else.

This CD rocks it out.

~FlamebaitNickLoving

maverick (October 19, 2004)

"I nearly had members of my family die in September 11th, and I'm not going to let these guys get away with this horseshit.

You know how people will say anything to get attention? Same deal here. They've put some of the worst pictures to memory, then add some far, far, far, far left wing bullshit and try to pass it off as a statement? I'm not buying.

I'm sorry, this is not going to fly."

My both of grandfathers nearly died in World War II. Do you see me hating the Dropkick Murphys for putting soldiers with bayonets on the cover of The Gang's All Here? Your logic is inherently flawed.

And Choking Victim/Leftover Crack/etc. exist to get attention [as do you, with your blindly patriotic post]. They want to open peoples' eyes to other possibilities. No one will make you agree with their opinion; they're just asking you consider it.

And did you "buy" it when multiple national news organizations showed the footage of the planes crashing into the twin tours hundreds, if not thousands of times in the weeks after the tragedy? They sensationalized the actual act far more than Leftover Crack are doing here. They're merely sensationalizing the motivation behind the act.

You're out of your element, Donny.

-Scott

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Good CD.
Great? ehhhh..... maybe. In between good and great.
It could have used one more stand out track somewhere in the second half of the CD, but oh well.

maverick (October 19, 2004)

Wow. BSD is mostly right.

-Scott

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

" nearly had members of my family die in September 11th, and I'm not going to let these guys get away with this horseshit.

You know how people will say anything to get attention? Same deal here. They've put some of the worst pictures to memory, then add some far, far, far, far left wing bullshit and try to pass it off as a statement? I'm not buying."

That's horrible, but I think you should know that they aren't a pro-Jihad band. The cover is making fun of the corrupt administration that was partially responsible for 9/11, and I'm sorry if you're a patriot, but others have opinions.

You come off as some censor-crazy asshole, but I understand that you just don't get it. It's all right.

-BSD

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

The lead singers best friend and former drummer of choking victim died in the towers. It's not like they can't relate to the victims of sept.11.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

boo

jamespastepunk (October 19, 2004)

Scott,

I nearly had members of my family die in September 11th, and I'm not going to let these guys get away with this horseshit.

You know how people will say anything to get attention? Same deal here. They've put some of the worst pictures to memory, then add some far, far, far, far left wing bullshit and try to pass it off as a statement? I'm not buying.

I'm sorry, this is not going to fly.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

this is seriously the best album cover i've seen all year...and no i'm not saying that because it's "cool" or "punk" to revel in the events of 9/11...i'm saying that because there's a guy with a gas pump that's blowing fire on the towers and it fucking says Halliburton on it...that's brilliant!

hubitcherkokov (October 19, 2004)

Definitely an amazing album. The review wasn't all THAT bad, either.

maverick (October 19, 2004)

James, you're really out of your element on this one. Back down.

-Scott

Haggard (October 19, 2004)

"Don't you know profiting off of people dying is punk now?"

I don't see how they're profitting off of people's deaths. Could you explain this?

-Justin

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

I really like this album. They do go a little overboard though, with their anarcho-atheist stance (i.e. satanic ways) - lyrically wise - a much much more controversial propagandhi

Haggard (October 19, 2004)

Awesome record. Finally, it is reviewed.

-Justin

jamespastepunk (October 19, 2004)

Don't you know profiting off of people dying is punk now?

So's robbing graves. Bet you that's the next act Jello will sign. He'll tell you they're misunderstood, too.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Fuck World Trade? How about Fuck Leftover Crack For Using the Horrible Acts of September 11th To Sell CDs?

you obviously don't know shit about left over crack.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Profit? don't be so fucking stupid.

They mean fuck WTO anyway.

jamespastepunk (October 19, 2004)

Fuck World Trade? How about Fuck Leftover Crack For Using the Horrible Acts of September 11th To Sell CDs?

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Best CD of the YEAR!

Shittiest review EVER!

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

"via sin dios" = "live without gods"

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

Great album. Shitty shitty review.

You completely or partially missed the point of almost every song on the album.

Is this the review that troll has been flaming about for the past few months? I can see why it took so long to get around to posting it.

Lame.

Anonymous (October 19, 2004)

who?

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