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None More Black: Loud About LoathingLoud About Loathing (2004)
Sabot Productions

Reviewer Rating: 3.5
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Remember File Under Black? None More Black doesn't. While this EP definitely won't surprise you, it still sounds a little different from the full length. None More Black has opted to experiment a little and it works pretty well. With tempo changes, hand claps. catchy guitar riffs, and "whoas" and.
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Remember File Under Black? None More Black doesn't.

While this EP definitely won't surprise you, it still sounds a little different from the full length. None More Black has opted to experiment a little and it works pretty well. With tempo changes, hand claps. catchy guitar riffs, and "whoas" and "yeahs" in all the right spots, it seems that they were set on implanting each song into your brain until it drove you mad. We even have some whistling present on track 3. Only the most jaded of people won't enjoy these songs.

On first listen, I thought that NMB must have written all their angry songs on the full-length, because judging by the sound of these songs, you get a decidedly upbeat feeling. Take a look at the lyrics though, and the thought is quickly dispelled. I guess I should have guessed that from a CD titled Loud About Loathing. The 6 songs generally revolve around Jason's brand of lyrical self-evaluation. So lyrically, the EP isn't that much different from the full length.

This EP is an interesting one indeed. I've listened to it time and time again, but I can't quite find a finalizing thought regarding my feelings towards it. It's catchy, and I thoroughly enjoy it, but in the end, I still feel a little let down. This EP builds up, but never really reaches a finale. The first 4 songs are great, but by the last two the album just dies a little bit. It wouldn't be so bad if these were the first 6 songs of a full-length, but as an EP it just doesn't work so well. I keep listening to those last two songs thinking maybe I missed something, but I can't find anything making them worthwhile.

Regardless, if you enjoyed the other NMB material, I recommend this completely. However, if you had problems with the first release, I doubt this will do it for you. It's not dynamite.

 

 
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wehavecomeforyourchildren (October 23, 2005)

hahahah! "it's not dynamite."!!! i get it it!!! hahahahaha.

i'm done being retarded now.

headclub (December 2, 2004)

this is for none more blacks live performance

Anonymous (December 2, 2004)

I love the new Strung Out. I'd put it in my top 10 for this year, and I think its def. better than american paradox.

I think 'never speak again' and 'analog' are probably my two fav's, but swandive and her name in blood are pretty amazing too.

angeldust is ok. theres really not a 'bad' song on that cd. strung out write very few 'bad' songs, just some duds here and there. them and HWM are some of the few bands who rarely write what i consider a 'bad' song.

Not-To-Regret (December 2, 2004)

I'd have to say "Angeldust" by Strung Out is one of the better new songs i've heard lately. At first I wasn't impressed with Exile in Oblivion, but after a second listen I was already addicted.

Anonymous (December 1, 2004)

ok, I will pick up RAR as soon as possible. I heard good things about it, but I heard good things about Eternal cowboy too, so i wasn't sure. I musta missed the backlash.

paul

crossfiyaaa (November 30, 2004)

""Apathy and Exhaustion is far and away the Best CD of 2002 in my opinion."

You think so? I would have to say Reinventing Axl Rose, then Situationist Comedy. That's easily the best Larry Arms record* though. "

Situationist Comedy would be a damn close second. I love D4 and their lyrics especially, but the overall sound of the larry arms, slightly more melodic and emotional (in a not as angry way) makes me prefer them more. I have not heard reinventing axl rose, but 'the eternal cowboy' didn't even make my top 10 of '03, so I don't think i'd rank their previous album much higher...unless its that much better than 'eternal cowboy'."

It is much better than EC. If you've paid attention to the fanbase backlash AM! has gotten, you probably heard a lot of cries of "Bring back RAR!" or something similar. Eternal Cowboy was an ok record, but for Against Me! it was an absolute fucking failure. It had some pretty good songs, but it was nothing like what they displayed in Axl Rose or Crime. I would definitely reccomend checking out Reinventing Axl Rose, I would say it's as important of a debut full length as The Clash's S/T album.

Anonymous (November 30, 2004)

Yeah Caution and Illusion of Safety are killer. When is Hwm gonna get the recognition they deserve? Apathy is an absolute masterpiece, even the video they released off that album is a classic. Jesus I love that band.

Barkley

Anonymous (November 30, 2004)

""Apathy and Exhaustion is far and away the Best CD of 2002 in my opinion."

You think so? I would have to say Reinventing Axl Rose, then Situationist Comedy. That's easily the best Larry Arms record* though. "

Situationist Comedy would be a damn close second. I love D4 and their lyrics especially, but the overall sound of the larry arms, slightly more melodic and emotional (in a not as angry way) makes me prefer them more. I have not heard reinventing axl rose, but 'the eternal cowboy' didn't even make my top 10 of '03, so I don't think i'd rank their previous album much higher...unless its that much better than 'eternal cowboy'.

Yes, Toxicity did come out in 2002 and was excellent.

other great releases of 2002
bad religeon-POB
HWM-caution
Taking back sundays first one (sorry, i loved them...before the hype of course)
Brand New's first one
Bad Astronaut-houston, we have a drinking problem
thrice-illision of safety

great year for music it was. but the larry arms stole the show that year if you ask me. apathy and exhuastion is amazing.

bizzlebrizzle (November 29, 2004)

"Just play all the oldies!"

Because the mid-90's was that fucking long ago.

Dumbass.

No, I meant just play all their old stuff and not make anything new.

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

"Just play all the oldies!"

Because the mid-90's was that fucking long ago.

Dumbass.

SOYBOMB (November 29, 2004)

The Lawrence Arms do deserve a much larger fanbase... I've seen them at least 7 times and it was great to not only hear, but witness their progression as a band... Last time I saw them at the Knitting Factory, they had the crowd in their hands throughout their entire set, which was great, considering the last few times I had seen them there only a few really were into'em.

As far as my not liking None More Black... I don't know, "The Greatest Story Ever Told" was mentioned below and I stand adamantly behind the brilliance of that album, when I listen and see None More Black, which I mentioned I have at least four times live, they really don't do anything for me.

Ah well.

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

i don't know why, but the chain of events that starts with listening to this band always ends with me listening to cigar. not that nmb and cigar sound alike or anything, it's just i start with nmb, go to kid dynamite, go to lifetime, go to engine 88, go to deviates, and then to cigar. whatever :)

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

"The Lawrence Arms are the next Jawbreaker"

I always thought The Broadways were the next Jawbreaker, and then they broke up so I guess you could say that TLA are the next Jawbreaker.

crossfiyaaa (November 29, 2004)

"Apathy and Exhaustion is far and away the Best CD of 2002 in my opinion."

You think so? I would have to say Reinventing Axl Rose, then Situationist Comedy. That's easily the best Larry Arms record* though.

*I wouldn't call anything available on vinyl a CD. I think Mitch Clem(!) said that once.

bizzlebrizzle (November 29, 2004)

Canadian indie culture freebie newspaper "Exlaim@#!" gave the Descendents "Cool to Be You" #3 for their top punk discs of the year, is this a reasonable place for that record? The only problem I would EVER EVER have with a Kd reunion is the fact that there is a chance that their new stuff would suck.

Barkley

New stuff?

What new stuff?

Just play all the oldies!

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

Canadian indie culture freebie newspaper "Exlaim@#!" gave the Descendents "Cool to Be You" #3 for their top punk discs of the year, is this a reasonable place for that record? The only problem I would EVER EVER have with a Kd reunion is the fact that there is a chance that their new stuff would suck.

Barkley

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

yea the lawrence arms get no love, but they are growing and gaining fans...slowly."

slowly unfortunately ain't good enough, when I saw the last show of possibly their last tour and they were burnt on the fact that they toured their nuts off for a great record-for no gains in their fanbase-slowly ain't gonna cut it. Too bad. Your right about Apathy & Exhaustion. Come to think of it was there a better record in 2002? I think that was the year that System of a Down reigned with "Toxicity." Its no comparison which record has aged better. At least to me.

Barkley

bizzlebrizzle (November 29, 2004)

None More Black is goddamn heavensent.

I love this band.

They serve as one of the foundations of the stoic Asskicking Stage.

Some people would say they'd rather have Paint It Black...but I think we can all agree that we should just get all of the members of Kid Dynamite at gun point and force them to reuinite.

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

previous comment was me

Paul

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

yea the lawrence arms get no love, but they are growing and gaining fans...slowly.

Apathy and Exhaustion is far and away the Best CD of 2002 in my opinion.

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

None More Black is goddamn heavensent.

I love this band.

They serve as one of the foundations of the stoic Asskicking Stage.

bizzlebrizzle (November 29, 2004)

The Lawrence Arms are the next Jawbreaker

D4 is the best out of those bands...

It definitely is the new Fat sound though.

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

Larry gets no love in the States-absolutely none. This is why: their audience are too busy listening to Mathbook Romance and Silverstein. Oh well the Arms will get their "just desserts" when all the kids are drooling over them the same way misplaced bands of their respective era get lost in the shuffle, like Quicksand, and Jawbreaker.

Barkley

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

Yea, D4, NMB, against me! and the lawerence arms all have some similar characteristics and feel. I love all 4 bands but I definately consider the Lawrence Arms my fav. out of the 4.

I actually like NMB more than Against me! Great band that I dont' think has reached their potential yet.

Paul

inagreendase (November 29, 2004)

SOYBOMB: I think you need to give None More Black another try. I don't see how you can hold The Greatest Story Ever Told in such lofty regards but get no enjoyment out of a band who is by no means a ripoff but carries very similar characteristics

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

I think these guys are better live than on CD and are a great young band w/ lots of potential. File under black, while it wouldnt make even my top 15 of 2003, was still a damn solid debut album.

I'd say 'dinners for suckers' is my fav. song of theirs. the bush comp song was awesome too.

paul

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

"Eh, Paint it Black will destroy '05."

Yeah, I agree with that. Even though I know it isn't fair to compare the two I do think the PIB got the best out of the KD breakup. When it comes down to it I don't feel the urgency or hear the insight I had expected from this band. I mean I know Jason can write better lyrics than he is. I also think Jasons voice is much better when it's in a more frantic situation if you will. Not a bad band, just not as good as they could be, Jason isn't using his talent to the fullest in my opinion. On a side note though, Paint it Black, my God do they live up to the talent they have, brilliant.

Anonymous (November 29, 2004)

Best Nmb song? I'd have to go with "Nothing To Do When Your Locked In A Vacancy" Fat generally does a good job letting one of their "young guns" lead of a comp of theirs(Rock against Bush or otherwise) Presenting the Dancing Robots by Larry Arms is a killer tune as well.

Barkley

Anonymous (November 28, 2004)

Kirby you're such a fucking HOMO.

inagreendase (November 28, 2004)

The cheapest I've found it is on No Idea (surprise surprise);.$5.00 plus shipping.

Anonymous (November 28, 2004)

YO!
To anyone having trouble finding this go to:
http://www.revhq.com
...hope I didnt fuck that link up

Anonymous (November 28, 2004)

"I bet you these kids got there name from spinal tap...."

Duuuuuhhhhhh.

Anonymous (November 28, 2004)

I bet you these kids got there name from spinal tap....

SOYBOMB (November 28, 2004)

Sorry, I've seen these guys about five times, each of the occasions as boring as the last. Not my cup of tea.

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

Anonymous (November 28, 2004)

"Only the most jaded of people won’t enjoy these songs."

well i won't check it out then ..

signed,
Jet Black.

unconcerned (November 28, 2004)

The answer is none... the album could be none more black

Anonymous (November 28, 2004)

the new paint it black song that i heard online was pretty lackluster. so i find it hard to believe the new cd will be that good.

bizzlebrizzle (November 27, 2004)

To those wondering:

The new Paint It Black is brilliant. It sounds nothing like their first record, even though it still sounds like their first record. Totally genius, seriously. And I didn't even like CVA.

-Scott

I second that...

They played most of what I'm assuming is an unmastered version of it at the Jade Tree showcase in Philly while These Arms Are Snakes were setting up. I do believe I will have a new favorite band now.

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

Scott is fat.

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

Dear Scott,
Isn't this a None More Black review?
Yes, yes it is.
Nothing about Paint It Black in this review.

Choke on a dick.
Thanks.
Score is for you.

maverick (November 27, 2004)

To those wondering:

The new Paint It Black is brilliant. It sounds nothing like their first record, even though it still sounds like their first record. Totally genius, seriously. And I didn't even like CVA.

-Scott

crossfiyaaa (November 27, 2004)

"File Under Black", however, was the best album of 2003."

Are you serious?!?

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

where the motherfuck can i find this cd?!?!?!

paul

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

"score is for guy below me"

that was really funny killing that advertiser.

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

"I think the question is 'how much blacker can it get?' and the answer is, 'none more'."

-BSD

kirbypuckett (November 27, 2004)

I LOVE IT!

- Kirby

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

Eh, Paint it Black will destroy '05.

Not-To-Regret (November 27, 2004)

How about naming or describing some of the tracks? This review has little substance...

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

I'd one up this ep to an 8. Awesome disc.

"File Under Black", however, was the best album of 2003.

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

This ep is pretty great, but not as fantastic as i was hoping for.

boba_fett (November 27, 2004)

i love the cover art on this.

Cos (November 27, 2004)

the score is for the reviewers name. Hysterical.

boba_fett (November 27, 2004)

haha... good stuff oksoda...

nmb are fucking awesome... and so is rome: total war.

cant wait to get my hands on a copy of this ep.

OKSoda (November 27, 2004)

Yeah, the reviewer's opinion is shit. He's a fag.

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

This ep is solid the whole way through. Fuck this reviewer.

bizzlebrizzle (November 27, 2004)

Itís not dynamite.

AHAHAHAHHA

Crookedsuperhero (November 27, 2004)

This is good stuff. Good.

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

score is for guy below me

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

None More Black is great, but www.purevolume.com/motorfalcon is kinda cool

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

Kudos to the author for the Kid Dynamite pun

inagreendase (November 27, 2004)

Gah, I thought I was done buying CDs for the year. Goddammit.

Anonymous (November 27, 2004)

I heard these guys were pretty good..hopefully I'll get around to hearing them soon. Mega points for the Spinal Tap Reference in their name though!

OKSoda (November 26, 2004)

They didn't really sign to Sabot, they just released this EP through Sabot. They will still release their major stuff on Fat.

A week more with this album and I think my opinion still holds. And I agree with you Adam about the KD comparisons. Just not fair. So I tried to keep that out until the very end there.

So I have a review at the top and bottom of the list. For this weekend, Punknews is mine!

adam (November 26, 2004)

"i just think it's kinda weird that they signed to Sabot"

They're still on Fat, this was just a one-shot EP.

-adam

Anonymous (November 26, 2004)

i just think it's kinda weird that they signed to Sabot

-notaclevername

Anonymous (November 26, 2004)

i've been listening to file under black a lot more lately, and find myself singing the songs in my head. so i decided to pick this up. i really enjoy it, and have listened to it a lot. my only complaints are: the songs tend to run together and the last song is horrible. but the best song, by far is "oh, there's leg work". rad song.

-kretzer

adam (November 26, 2004)

I got a copy of this in the mail today and thus far I really like it. Kid Dynamite is almost a curse on this band, since every review I read about them talks about tempo and pacing comparisons more than anything else. As a melodic punk record this is quite nice.

-adam

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