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The Used: In Love And DeathIn Love And Death (2004)
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The Used continue with the predictable "screamo" chlichés on their latest offering. While their self-titled debut showed a sense of urgency and unpredictability that was missing from the genre, this release captures everything safe about this (somewhat) new style of rock music (I can't think of .
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The Used continue with the predictable "screamo" chlichés on their latest offering. While their self-titled debut showed a sense of urgency and unpredictability that was missing from the genre, this release captures everything safe about this (somewhat) new style of rock music (I can't think of a name to call it).

With John Feldman manning the controls again, this record finds all the similar aspects of the self-titled in place. The tight snare drum and crisp guitars as well as Bert's high-pitched screams working back and forth with his awkard voice. What the problem really is here is that the band doesn't have a strong set of songs to back up their sound with. Sure, "Take It Away" is a charging lead single, and tracks like "I Caught Fire" and "All That I've Got" will probably be on radio for months on end, but elsewhere, there isn't too much to write home about. Songs like "Yesterday's Feeling" and "Let It Bleed" are simply too middle-of-the-road to ask for any more listens. There a lot of mid-tempo part ballad/part rockers that all seem to blend into one after a while.

When The Used decide to kick up the energy a notch they find mixed results. "Sound Effects And Overdramatic" brings an intense, charging force to the record that was lacking from tracks 2-8. However, "I'm A Fake" contains the most trite, boring, cliché spoken-word intro that encompasses everything about the "emo" genre (cutting, bleeding, fucking, etc.) that we're all sick of.

This band still has potential and a smart move would have been to place more fleshed-out, interesting tracks along with the radio-friendly tracks that would both guarantee some airplay along with some artistic credibility. Unfortunately, the band was too afraid to stray from the formula that has been done to death over the last few years

 

 
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useyourhead (October 15, 2010)

How did this album get two stars? This review is biased. The Used sound different from all the other "emo" bands. I'll admit the lyrics are a little stereotypical but so are other genres and the music is fucking grand. Ignore what you've heard about "emo" and take a listen. The energy and rhythm in this album is incredible. My favorite is "Listening." Also, "I'm a Fake" is amazing, even with a cheesy intro.

DrBino (October 29, 2007)

I remember when this album came out, there was an article in the paper about these guys and it really made them sound good. So off i went to pick up what turned out to be one of the most regretable purchases i had ever made. I dont understand why The Used, along with the thousands of other bands they sound exactly the same as, are so popular. A year or so had passed and i decided to give this album another chance, to see if maybe i was just having a bad day. I almost made it through the whole album this time, but couldnt bring myself to do it. It was worse than the first time! I dont care how 'cool' their live show is, their songs are worse than nothing. Im usualy pretty open minded when it comes to music but this album is pure stink. If people want to get upset about anything ive said thats fine, its just my opinion, you're entitled to yours too.

sashachemicalbabe (April 9, 2007)

i luv this band on i have the book bag of the used!!!
i luv that they have sumething with my chemical romance!!!

treyspencer (March 27, 2007)

i give this album and all the other albums perfect scores...i dont care what other ppl think. these guys got started in the middle of nowhere busted there asses and made it big...on top of that they still try harder than 90% of bands, they give amazing live performances, and they battle through all the problems that come up and still sign every autograph that they can. if you can beat that then ill admit my defeat....i mean come on ppl these guys are getting drama from mcr, they just let go of there original drummer b4 lies for liars was going down and there were three different drummers on the album, so give them a break,let them settle in with dan and we will see where it goes

life-is-fucking-joke (February 15, 2007)

im in fucking love. insperation

PXNDX (December 5, 2006)

omg i love this band

Emi13 (November 28, 2006)

The Used is my favorite band, ever. To all of you people who hate the band, I honestly dont understand why, but to compare The Used to Hawthorne Heights is comparing two totally different things.
Hawthorne Heights has probably never had any problems and they are people who make this type of music because it's "IN". Their "music" shouldn't even be considered music.
The Used, on the other hand, has original sound and some true emotion.
STOP SAYING "EMO" MUSIC IS BAD!!! All music is emotional.
I agree, The Used probably shouldn't have covered "Under Pressure", and this CD wasn't as great as their first, but to say the Freddie is rolling around in his grave is rediculous. Sure they don't sound like him, and I agree, they didn't do the best of jobs, but take this into consideration: My Chemical Romance was included in this cover. That, in my opinion, is what made it ... not-so-good. Also, many people are saying that The Used sounds like every thing else. They have their own sound and thats why they dont sound like Freddie Mercury. How can you want something that is different from everything else, but the same? It confuses me.
Why hate music just because it is main-stream. The bands strive to be good and thats all that you can expect from them. If they are good, why shouldn't they get the recognition that they deserve?
I am, by no means, an "emo kid" or a "scene chic". I like what I like. Stop complaining.

celler (November 14, 2006)

yes i have this cd and i love it !! it is kick a#$

MCRbabe666 (April 2, 2006)

This CD is better than the first one but on the other hand the first one has more meaning. I love them and their dedication to music.

Anonymous (February 16, 2006)

if you noticed ...this album has alot of lovey-dovey kind of songs on it, which is good and i love it alot. but one thing for all those of you who think this album is EMO.....his girlfriend died and she was pregnant...i would be emo too. so fuck all of you HATERS who think that EMO is STUPID....your a fucking poser and god will punish you for being judgemental...or satan will laugh his ass off at you, but i dont know what you believe in....so in other words FUCK YOU!!!! and i love the used until the day i die

sk8rchic (February 1, 2006)

very good cd. my punk friend thinks that they are going to hell for singing bad about god in this cd. but i didn't here much of that. i love the cd listen to it all the time.

Anonymous (January 29, 2006)

They are starting to turn emo or something what happened to all the good hardcore shit?????? You guys are GREAT but it feels like ur selling out!

What good hardcore shit?

Anonymous (January 17, 2006)

They are starting to turn emo or something what happened to all the good hardcore shit?????? You guys are GREAT but it feels like ur selling out!

thejewvolta (January 2, 2006)

yes I 2nd that
the 2 little vagrants from the used and my chem
bring shame to David Bowie
and make Freddie Mercury turn over in his grave
theyre an insult to the human race
youd think that since their own songs are awful
covering a good song would make them slightly better
quite the opposite
they ruined it
and are killing music
if these fucks want to die so badly
let them

warningdevice (December 28, 2005)

and also... the used covering Queen... FUCK YOU USED!

warningdevice (December 28, 2005)

this band has NO business on PUNKnews!
-1000000

Anonymous (December 3, 2005)

Dirty Fags playing Dirty Fag music.

schniebly (November 24, 2005)

do i even have to sat anythin

Anonymous (November 20, 2005)

THIS ALBUN ROX!
my fave song is under pressure, its sooooooooooo catchy

Anonymous (October 29, 2005)

Great album The song 'I'm melting' (in your eyes)' rocks. They did a very good job in this album, but the video for 'take it away' wasent really that great in my opinion cause they basicly only had bert in it, but needless to say this album is great.

Anonymous (October 17, 2005)

where do they find these piss poor reviewers? these degenerates need to be digging ditches or something. they've got no place in the music business. the used is the best thing that's ever happened to me. anyone who doesn't like them obviously has no future.

Anonymous (August 22, 2005)

yessssssssssssssssssss.

Anonymous (August 22, 2005)

All That I Got is an awesome song, dorkwad!

Anonymous (August 22, 2005)

I love the cd, but it seems weird to me that a lot of you gave low scores, then said "this is (insert profanity here) awesome!" you're just contradicting yourself. Try getting some sort of education on the subject before joining a discussion on it. I like the person who had enough sense to read a biography on the used to get a better point of view. The rest of you cussing lamos need to go to school and get a job. Rock on to The Used!

Anonymous (July 16, 2005)

"All that i got" is the worst song ever, from the worlds crappiest band.

vanex (July 6, 2005)

its softer than the first album.
i think its because Bert's loved one died or something!:)

Anonymous (June 24, 2005)

Anyone that dislikes this CD has not listened to it enough. The Used mixes up their songs so perfectly. I love all of them. I love Take It Away, but also It's Hard to Say. Let it Bleed rocks, and so does Im A Fake.

underOATH (June 2, 2005)

this cd is so flippin boring.

there's nothin heavy

Anonymous (May 4, 2005)

ugj

addictedd2prozac (May 2, 2005)

I was a little dissappointed because the greatness of the first album wasn't apparent in the second album. Too sappy and slow, but it was still OK.

lauz (April 20, 2005)

i have actually got this album now and it fckn rocks!
also if u lyk this listen to my chemical romance cuz bert and gerard are like that. (cuz theyre both on reprise).
i love them both and so shud u.
xXx

lauz (April 18, 2005)

carry on screamin and harmonising bert. WE LOVE YOU!

Anonymous (April 14, 2005)

i fuckin love the used!!!! all u fuckin dickwads that say they're bad could go suck cock...u have no taste in music and ur probably ugly as shit 2. as for bert and jeph.....they are the hottest guys ive ever seen.

Anonymous (April 14, 2005)

i fuckin love the used!!!! all u fuckin dickwads that say they're bad could go suck cock...u have no taste in music and ur probably ugly as shit 2. as for bert and jeph.....they are the hottest guys ive ever seen.

Anonymous (March 13, 2005)

First cd was way better, but Bert's vocals are awesome, but iunno they're still missing something. FASTER LOUDER DAMMIT!

tylerdurden8136 (February 22, 2005)

damn well, where do i begin? the first track on this album lies basically because it makes you think the rest of the cd is going to be just as good...but sadly it isnt. its still a decent effort, just nothing amazing or all that great...and the lyrics are absolutely laughable...if ur really interested, just go download or burn it...save your money.

Anonymous (February 12, 2005)

Ya'll shud all go to the TASTE OF CHAOS TOUR!!!

Anonymous (February 12, 2005)

Well all you little pansy's that are saying "oh screamo is for faggots' and shit like that, need to shut their fucking mouths. If you are trully a hardcore rock lover you listen to anything. So you emo- screamo haters can cram the used cds, the undeoath cds, the senses fail cds, all these fucking awesome bands up your hardcore ass!

Anonymous (January 30, 2005)

Dude your a jack ass, this album is excellent. With songs like "lucany fringe" in there i think that fit in with the interesting tracks along with the radio-friendly tracks that would both guarantee some airplay along with some artistic credibility. Plus the song "let it bleed" has total ground breking ways of how music is produces, for example the crazy laughter then the intense screaming after wards. I think that fit in with the interesting tracks along with the radio-friendly tracks that would both guarantee some airplay along with some artistic credibility. If you can respect the work and how detailed each beat and rhythmy is then you should be shot, for shame

literature (January 28, 2005)

The Used sold out. mabey even from the begining. however, that does not mean that there isn't hope for them as vocally and lyrically (although cliche) bert is excellent.

Anonymous (January 25, 2005)

I..like the used. not love them.. they're too soft. and I could care less what everyone else thinks.. and I'm not going to sit here and argue over something stupid like that. everyone has their own taste in music and stuff.. so let them just say what they want about it. so what if they don't support them? theres still a lot of people who do.. you've probably bashed other bands before so get over it.

Anonymous (January 17, 2005)

Stop hatin u broke bitch lol. U just mad berts gettin paid. U anti emo haters make me laugh. U got so much time on ur hands to post how much u hate emo, why dont u try tellin everyone what u actually do like. U fuckin lame bitch.

nicolemilito (January 17, 2005)

i love the used!!!......k seriously listen to the fucking lyrics and mabey you will understand..if you read some of this shit about the band you will gain some respect for them like me..i read a biography on the band and im like "holy shit man thats nuts" like some of the shit they went through im fucking glad they made it and now its all paying off!!! i have alot of respect for them...i literally love bert!!!....i have both of their cds and when i first bought this one i was like "what??" but i listened to it again and im like "oo my god i get it thats fucking crazy" listen to the lyrics...especially the dick who said he'd take fucking simple plan over the used!come on!!.....

Anonymous (January 12, 2005)

Dude all you bitches raggin' on the Used go eat a dick until you can come up with an album this good that people actually buy. "Dallas you guys are like one big blowjob and it feels great. I don't know who's coming on next and frankly I don't care BECASUE WE'RE THE FUCKING USED!" - Bert in Dallas. That guy knows how to perform. So yeah in closing.
The used = amazing
you guys = mother fuckers.

Anonymous (January 10, 2005)

"I'd even take simple plan over this crap" Dude, your fucking gay.

Anonymous (January 6, 2005)

and screw all those dicks saying they suck! you judge ur own fucking songs! Not someone elses! And i saw them in concert and it was one of the best! Bert YOUR FUCKING HOTT!

Anonymous (January 6, 2005)

Well i think it's a fuckin awesome cd, and for all u pricks out there fuck you! They try juast as hard as any one else and became successful, most people cant even write songs that sound that good! So get the dick out of ur mouth and get with the world today! THE USED ROCK!
And thats a promise!

Anonymous (December 31, 2004)

as for the snare drum issue: from the perspective of an experienced drummer and drum-recorder, i can tell tell you that snare drum is not a sample. there is no way they could get the accentuation displayed in the snare drum fills on the album with a sample. feldman has some stupid way of recording the snare drum on every album he produces and it sucks ass. who wants to hear the exact same poppy snare drum sound on at least 5 different albums i've heard that he has produced.

also, since when is fucking part of the emo scene. i wasn't aware.

Anonymous (December 31, 2004)

Score is for this album. I am very appreciative.

As for feldman... hate his production, he's all that is bad about having a budget. He ruined that soty album and he fucked this one...

Anonymous (December 30, 2004)

Ok assholes, listen up. Since I am cool, this is true:

GC ALWAYS sucked.

So did the Used.

So stop blowing eachother.

sean_ingram (December 29, 2004)

well, i did get a plane ticket, some awesome meals, and got to hang out with great people. i didn't ask for anything, but they were nice enough to pay me a union session fee regardless. I like the used, and had a great time. john feldman makes amazing coffee, and the experience to get into the studio and work out my vocals again was something i needed, and appreciate. he was an intimidating, yet supportive producer. I have only worked with ed rose before in the past, so it was interesting to get out of my comfort zone. i regret nothing.

KB (December 29, 2004)

Point #1: Good Charlotts sucks ass. They have always sucked ass, only now they're MTV whores and their music is worse than it was before. I know you people are saying that their first album is good, but its miserable, so swallow your pride and admit that they're the latest band to exploit the style of music that we all love.

Point #2: The Used might be worse than Good Charlotte. I listened to this whole album and cringed throughout it. At least Good Charlotte has a sound that doesnt make me want to kill myself so I dont have to hear it anymore (ie: if I hear Good Charlotte at a party or on the radio I wont mind because its almost punk music with a smooth sound and its not shitty rap music that people just looooove to play constantly). The Used sucks so much. The vocals are abnoxious. The band itself sounds like they are having dental surgery performed on them while they are trying to play their instruments. Fuck this band. I'd even take Simple Plan over this crap (and that says alot)

Anonymous (December 28, 2004)

GC is, was, and will always be shit. get over it and move on with your lives.

Anonymous (December 28, 2004)

yea dude, i saw GC on that MxPx tour too, the NFG/MxPx one was about 6 months earlier so they were even smaller then!

yea you are correct about which one is east coast anthem. that whole album had some great songs "i heard you" "i don't wanna stop" lots of really catchy pop punk tunes

I have little faith in the new goldfinger. i thought 'open your eyes' was horrible, and i hate his vegan rants.

paul

Anonymous (December 28, 2004)

this band sucks. this band has always sucked. and will always suck.

Anonymous (December 28, 2004)

"The Used have such a good live show, that it's kind of a shame the way this album turned out... completely the opposite of who the band really is..."

The band sucks. Their live show sucks. You are far too easily entertained.

Anonymous (December 28, 2004)

yeah paul, I remember seeing GC back when they opened for Mxpx in 2001 and at the time, they were just another pop punk doing their thing. I was really into anything pop punk at the time so I really enjoyed that first album too. "East coast anthem" is a pretty awesome song... that's the one that starts with "walking on the streets of DC...", right?

I bet people are reading this thread and wondering wtf is going on. First I rant about snare drums and now we're talking about old good charlotte.

The point is: If you want super nice production on an album... be tasteful about it.

Compare the production of JEW's "Clarity" to this latest Used album. Both contain tons of effects/cool ideas but they go about them in different ways. I hope the new Goldfinger album isn't as over-produced, but from that one song that's been released it doesn't look too good. My favorite Feldmann song is the hidden track he put on the "hang ups" album. I miss those days.

Anonymous (December 28, 2004)

yea girls and boys kinda ruined that cd for me too. I'll admit, I liked the first GC album. Granted I was 19 then, and I got it after seeing them open for new found glory, back before either band had any sort of big following or radio/mtv success (yea, believe it or not, an NFG/GC show w/ about 300 people at it, lol), so I had no reason to hate them. I thought it was an honest, if not cheesy, fun pop punk album. but songs like east coast anthem and festival song were pretty cool.

I just alwasy thought songs like 'my bloody valentine' 'movin on' 'young and hopeless' on their next album could have been great pop punk songs if it wasn't for the rediculous production...thye needed some lyric help here and there too, but on sound alone they could have been good.

paul

Anonymous (December 28, 2004)

i thought the used were poised to be that little band on the whopping major label that gave a shit about what they put out. this album makes me change my mind.

this score is for "a box of sharp objects"

WNB
-jd

Anonymous (December 27, 2004)

good points there Paul

What really turned me off about that GC album was that Girls and Boys song. Like you said, production makes or breaks an album... American Idiot is a great example of tasteful use of effects and I think it's an amazing album/concept album.

The Used have such a good live show, that it's kind of a shame the way this album turned out... completely the opposite of who the band really is...

Isn't anyone else getting tired of the same old stuff? It was kinda cool 2 years ago, but I want to see some progression!

Anonymous (December 27, 2004)

Take, take, take, take, take, take this away.

Anonymous (December 27, 2004)

They went soft but eh ... It happens when you become popular .

Anonymous (December 27, 2004)

yea i agree. i mean sometiems i love overproduction. american idiot is an example. the guitars are so overdriven but its such a great record, because it isnt an abuse of effects. but then you have bands like Rancid, who i'm sure could have gotten much mroe rediculous production w/ their status, but instead, they use a muhc mroe down to earth recording process from what their finished product sounds like.

feldman ruins records in my opinion. i even think good charlotte suffered from overproduciton on their second album. the third one is shit no matter how it was produced, but i think 'young and hopeless' may have been...decent...w/ more toned down production like their first record. i can' believ ei'm defending GC, but i thnk i'm past the whole hating on bands thing. i really don't care, i bet benji is a fun guy to hang out w/ .

paul

Anonymous (December 27, 2004)

This cd is for guys who give their girlfriends pirates

Anonymous (December 27, 2004)

That would be very interesting. The Used with an Indie Budget. Maybe if they recorded with J. Robbins or something. I kinda think that if you go for a more raw and natural sound, you are forced to really think your songs though and make them stand on their own. With this last album, it seems that when the bridge section of every song comes up, it's a new place for Feldmann to try something cool (telephone effect, ring modulators, crazy delays, flangers, or whatever).... which is neat in small doses (first album) and "old and busted" (this album).

Whether you're a recording enthusiast or not, I think as most listeners mature, they begin to find all of this overproduction getting quite cheesy and formulaic. Strong songs make great albums.

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oh ok, i thought the arguement was whether the drums were 'real' or not...i'll admit, i didn't read all the comments sorry.

yea the production definately takes away. thats what i said in my first post...these guys wouldnt be half bad if not for the million dollar feldman treatment. i saw story of the year live and was like 'wow...these guys would actually not be half bad if it wasnt' for feldman completely de-clawing their music' granted they still sucked but ya know...not as bad as on cd. same goes for the used. give these guys an indy budget and i bet they'd have some more fans. the production is just too much, too many effects, to many freakin samples.

word, paul

Anonymous (December 27, 2004)

and yes, this album is a lot better than their first

paul

Anonymous (December 27, 2004)

oh ok, i thought the arguement was whether the drums were 'real' or not...i'll admit, i didn't read all the comments sorry.

yea the production definately takes away. thats what i said in my first post...these guys wouldnt be half bad if not for the million dollar feldman treatment. i saw story of the year live and was like 'wow...these guys would actually not be half bad if it wasnt' for feldman completely de-clawing their music' granted they still sucked but ya know...not as bad as on cd. same goes for the used. give these guys an indy budget and i bet they'd have some more fans. the production is just too much, too many effects, to many freakin samples.

word, paul

Anonymous (December 27, 2004)

There really is nothing special about the drummer honestly. He isn't ground-breaking or anything.

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

the issue isn't about the drummer. yes, he's very good. It's about the drum sound and the overuse/abuse of sound replacing techniques. In my eyes/ears, it degrades the talent and skill of the performer. It makes The Used feel more and more like a "studio band".

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

i like this album a lot more than their first one.
every song on this record is good, it just took a few listens but then i was hooked. i am fake is my favorite song on it... followed by all the other songs in whatever order you choose to put them in.

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

for the record, the drummer to the used is good and you guys sound like a bunch of bitches arguing about him. i've seen him play live, unfortunately, but i paid attention to his drumming since i am a drummer also and do that kind of thing.

his chops are solid. wtf do you expect, he's a drummer who grew up in mormon town USA. its either practice drums or kill yoruself as far as i'm concerned.

feldmans production does make the drums sound cheesey, but hell, i thought Good charlotte had a drum machine on their second album, and then i heard it was josh freese, who is fucking amazing. production production production. feldman makes it sound cheesey. the kid is good at drums. as for the band...well....yea. but don't try to say its artificial drums, you all sound retarded.

paul

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

Why is everyone talking about the fenix tx album? It was a crap album, that's why they split, nobody cared about it and quite right too. The s/t was passable but they were trash after that.

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

live, it's a real drumset. i don't think they use triggers. They've always prided themselves on their crazy live show, so I don't think they need to sound as clean as the studio.

they're such a studio band.

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

"In other words: It doesn't sound like a real drumset, because of the bad overuse of cheap studio production tricks like "sound replacing". When albums go this route, it takes the whole believability factor away for me. Anyone else relate?"

That shit is pathetic. What the hell do they use when they play live? I hope to hell not triggers and a synth for the fucking kit. As a drummer, this kid should hang his fucking head in shame.

On a more positive note, the snare used on F-minus' second album was great, as is the snare used for all of E-150's records.

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

Don't call this shit screamo for fuck's sake.
screamo is a subset of hardcore (basically).
This is not a hc record.
Baaah.

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

Is this band still around? Why? Yawwwwwwwwwwnnnn. Bert can't sing & his taste in women is atrocious. Fuck this band.

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

That sure is a creative front cover. I think il get it tattooed right over my heart, right after i get that tribal band on my arm, and dye my shaggy hair black.

-Greenvandal

Anonymous (December 26, 2004)

"sure it kinda takes away from his credibilty, but i'd do guest vocals on even the shittiest of mall screamo bands if i got a free plane ticket to LA, free meals and a chance to get a fat royalty check off this stupid shit."

why don't you just join the used?

-swingline

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

To the guy a few posts below:
I'm sure it's a "real" snare drum used in the sample itself.

Feldmanns abuse of soundreplacing encompasses all of the albums he has produced/recorded/engineered. I actually didn't the snare sound on the first Used album. It seemed to get really apparent after that.... especially with SOTY and now this. I'm sure the new Goldfinger album will obviously be sound replaced. In no way am I against the use of this tool, but please use it in a tasteful way and make a valid attempt for it to sound like a real drumset. It seems like it's becoming a crutch. On the flipside, someone like Trombino can get great "studio" sounding drums w/o resorting to the cheap tricks of Feldmann. I think Feldmann does some way cool stuff... I just wish he tried harder on this last album.

that's all

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

I don't understand how ppl say this album is too popppy. Its basically the same album again. Their last album wasn't some hardcore underground masterpiece. Their music just caters to the masses and thats all they are doing. This cd is basically the same thing

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

SCORE IS FOR SEAN INGRAM FROM COALESCE DOING GUEST VOCALS ON THIS SHITTY ALBUM.

sure it kinda takes away from his credibilty, but i'd do guest vocals on even the shittiest of mall screamo bands if i got a free plane ticket to LA, free meals and a chance to get a fat royalty check off this stupid shit.

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

fuck this weak shit

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

too many fucking screamo bands

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

Well, i know for a fact that it's a real snare drum, and they miced it on the bottom and he has predefined eq on it, mostly on high.

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

To those talking about the snare sampling...

Guy 1 is right because "sound replacing" is extremely easy with protools. Almost as easy as side-chaining a noise gate with an oscilator to fill up a bass-drum sound. This technique is so easy that if you own ProTools and the plug-in, you can do it in a heartbeat. It can work, but it just really doesn't work for any music that's supposed to be heavy and rockin.

lou (December 25, 2004)

(since it's christmas and i'm feeling optimistic) ...this could have been a lot worse.

a lot of forgettable stuff, the terrible intro to the final track, but a few songs i actually enjoyed. (so much for the credibility of any opinion i will ever take the time to post)

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

"encompasses everything about the "emo" genre (cutting, bleeding, fucking, etc.) that we're all sick of"

exactly. thanks.

paul

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

big ups to whoever mentioned lechuza also. that album has soem really fantastic pop punk songs on it.

a song for everyone, by the way, is better than threesome...IMO. pheobe cates is also very very very awesome. poop punk rarely sounds as good. but that metal shit they did on there is horrible.

denver harbor is ok...kinda boring

paul

Anonymous (December 25, 2004)

this shit is actually alot better than their first album, and not as bad as i thought it would be. i think if they didn't have feldmen giving them the million dollar production treatment they'd be a lot better off. its just overdoen. some of the songs are pretty solid though. andits good to hear them shed a lot of their 'screamo' sound and go poppier.

paul

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

i tricked myself into thinking i liked the used. but then i saw them live again for the first time in a couple of years and quickly remembered that i didn't like them at all

bemused (December 24, 2004)

I won't even pretend to be cool. I did actually like the debut. It had some good mosh-inducing installments. But this is just plain bad. No, actually it is awful. It is one of the worst album this year, right along Atreyu, Hawthorne Heights and Hazen St.

Worthy of nothing more than a 2 star rating

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

fucking rock star douchebags. go to hell.

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

fenix tx and the used both share an overwhelmingly large suck factor

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

it's a sampled snare. it's not like it's an incredibly painstaking process. dummy.

if you like the used, most of the other bands you probably like have sampled drums as well.

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

what does fenix tx have to do with the used?

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

sounds to me like both you guys are just trying to act like you know what you're talking about. the only good song on lechuza is "threesome".

Fuck Gabe Saporta.

kenjamin (December 24, 2004)

are you saying they would go through the trouble of only replacing the snare drum with a digital sample? It sounds to me like they just miked it from the bottom and turned the treble up.

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

this album showcases the WORST use of sound replacer that I've ever heard. The snare sample that Feldmann places in sounds horrible... it doesn't mesh well with the rest of the drumkit and it becomes so obvious that it's a placed sample.

In other words: It doesn't sound like a real drumset, because of the bad overuse of cheap studio production tricks like "sound replacing". When albums go this route, it takes the whole believability factor away for me. Anyone else relate?

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

Lechuza is one of the best albums ever. This album could have been so much better.

blinkrules (December 24, 2004)

that stupid intro for "i'm a fake" is so lame, songs actually decent, but i don't want to hear him whine about cutting himself.

slippy (December 24, 2004)

Ugh is right.

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

thanks.
-Co-stanzA!

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

Score is for the dude who brought up lechuza

Anchors (December 24, 2004)

Please refrain from using the word 'Screamo' near anything relating to The Used.

inagreendase (December 24, 2004)

The rest of the album is horribly bland, but I actually enjoy the first two singles from the self-titled album, and the B-side that was on the Warped comp.

But anything I listened to from this was just terrible. I don't know how you could get progressively worse in a dying trend, but...oh, wait. Right. Carry on.

Crookedsuperhero (December 24, 2004)

Ugh.

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

On the real, they don't. While this album is guaranteed not to make new fans out of the used, it is definitely different from first. Not in a dramatic, "deja entendu" kind of way, but not in a shitty "lechuza" type of way either. Tracks 1, 2, 3 and the last song are especially fab. I'll give it a 6 for the fuck of it. Merry Christmas.

OH yeah, Fuck hststgod the shitty reviewer dude.

Jesse (December 24, 2004)

This band could never have any artistic integrity.

Anonymous (December 24, 2004)

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