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Hartsfield - Katya (Cover Artwork)

Hartsfield

Hartsfield: KatyaKatya (2004)
Settle 4 Less

Reviewer Rating: 1


Contributed by: greg0rbgreg0rb
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I am sick of having to say that bands sound like Taking Back Sunday! But sadly, with every package of CDs I get to review, it seems that every other band in the world dreams of being the next big thing on Victory. One look at this sickening cover art and I had a feeling I would have to pull a "Jesse.


I am sick of having to say that bands sound like Taking Back Sunday! But sadly, with every package of CDs I get to review, it seems that every other band in the world dreams of being the next big thing on Victory. One look at this sickening cover art and I had a feeling I would have to pull a "Jesse" on this thing. Pop it in, and sure enough, I heard annoying singing over a breakdown beat and a stab at tech guitar…and then came the standard screaming. "Thank god this is just an EP," I thought.

After sifting through poorly-written wordy bios on their website and their label's website, I discovered that Hartsfield formed "from the ashes of the Ottawa, Ontario hardcore punk outfit, Us Against Them" and that they got together in 2003. From reading their individual bios I found that they do indeed like Taking Back Sunday, along with The Used, Saves the Day, Matchbook Romance and Further Seems Forever. I'm sure many of you have stopped reading by now and I don't blame you; it sounds just like you could imagine.

If they had mad tech skills, maybe I would be briefly interested, but it's nothing your little brother couldn't figure out playing along in his bedroom for a half-hour. Maybe if they had crazy addicting hooks I would be interested, but this is pretty forgettable. Maybe if they really convinced me with the harder sections that they were in true hardcore bands prior to this I would be interested, but no, it's all kinda half-assed, and based on the clichés that this genre thrives on, these guys are copies of copies.

If you still need convincing of their mediocrity, go watch their music video for "Everyday" on their website. If you like it, may God have mercy on your soul. Sorry guys, but you really need to put your own stamp on this drivel, at the very least. There is nothing here to make your stuff stand out from the thousands of other bands trying this style. And if you're going to directly emulate a band, please pick someone else; I'm tired of comparing bands to Taking Back Sunday. I feel mean now…oh well.

 


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greg0rb (December 24, 2009)

Oh man. Lookin' back at old reviews and boy I do not miss these anonymous days.

Anonymous (January 11, 2005)

Haven't heard the band - don't care. But hey, if they're young, they better get used to criticism - and so should their fans.

Fuck people, it's a reviewer's OPINION.

You know what they say about not reading your own press. Live it.

Anonymous (January 11, 2005)

what the hell's a genre if not bands that play similar styles? all hardcore bands sound the same to me and i don't go running around saying they're all copies of copies.

Anonymous (January 10, 2005)

The secret song is pretty good

Anonymous (January 10, 2005)

yeah!

robdobi (January 10, 2005)

anyone ever see the movie happiness? what i enjoyed most about it was the feeling i had after the movie was over. i realized that any little problems i may have had in life were totally insignificant to how fucked up the characters in the movie were.

watching this bands video made me feel the same way. someone pull a fire when ready on these guys and knock some sense into them.

Anonymous (January 10, 2005)

wow! hartsfield rocks, this is so cruel, who ever wrote this review is ann asshat, fuck off, last time i go to this site!

maverick (January 10, 2005)

I just watched their music video. I wanted to laugh, but it was beyond laughably bad; it was just painful.

1. Your singer has some of the most generic and nasally vocals ever.

2. Your music is a 4th-rate knockoff of Taking Back Sunday. Taking Back Sunday. Good lord. Future point of reference: There were punk bands before 2002.

3. Your drummer, who someone mentioned below is "sponsored?" Well, he sucks. I've been playing drums for a decade and could play better than him on kit probably 8 years ago.

4. This whole band is a joke. Stop making music. You are ruining it for all of us who actually love punk rock.

-Scott

Anchors (January 9, 2005)

Hey, kids, there's a reason there's a "Staff" icon below Gregs name. Because his opinion is more valid than yours. Reviewing music is his job. Where as the rest of you seem like you'd be hard pressed to find work at Burger King.

"And the rest of the band, pour their souls into this band."

Guess what, Hitler put his heart and soul into ethnic clensing, doesn't make it a good idea, or for a good result.

"Who ever wrote this review can eat shit. your a fucking retard and i seriously hope a large train hits you and half of your family."

Brilliant commentary, by somebody who's obviously 14, and has even more teen angst than the average Slipknot fan. We know, your parents don't understand you. That doesn't make this band good either.

I hate to break this to all of you, but wishing death upon Greg's family, and not even cleverly so, itsn't going to get him to change his opinion on this album. "The guys are super nice." I'm sure they are. "They put their heart and souls into this." I also believe that, but it's still a bad album. Get over it, this is a stinker kids.

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

wow..this reveiew sucks,,but then yet i can say that about heartsfield.Sure those guys can wail at a show but did anyone realy stop to think about the music instead of just looking up at them and going wow their good.Im sorry to say it..they just rip off every emo band out there.but then so do other emo bands..its a non stop ripping off eachother and crying a bout some stupid bitch that wont play with his weiner kinda band. some of the transitions they do are ok. but then they go back into the same stupid medium pased beats that throw me off course to go want to feel the chicks breast that are right beside me. im a CD consumer and when i buy a CD i want it to be a CD diffrent from the rest so im not buying the same bull shit everytime.i can see the reveiwers side of this.he gets a shitload of CDs to reveiw..and whats hot in the market right now. EMO ...sorry to say it to you ppl that like it..its bullshit..i dont mind some bands ,but when you have to reveiw a CD that mostlikely sounds just like the 50 others CD that he has to reveiw..you kinda get anoyed. and mostlikely want to kill something from listening to most repeditave shit over and over and over. he's kinda just giveing them a hint that they should do something to make themselves rememberalbe..why do you think all the big bands that you like are the ones you REALY LIKE.because they pull shit ppl dont expect. Heartsfield is a good band..but i dont want to sit through another show of repeditiaveness.

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

I'd be embarassed to put out a record of this quality. Go to their website, read the lyrics, i think greg hit it bang on.

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

who ever wrote this review can eat shit. your a fucking retard and i seriously hope a large train hits you and half of your family.
have a nice day you fucking piece of garbage.

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

Ottawa is a really nice city.

Barkley

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

how i adore people that are idiotic.

hartsfield's drummer is not 28, he is 26, and he is the oldest. he is also an incredible, and sponsored, drummer. who cares how fucking old he is? he, and the rest of the band, pour their souls into this band, and they love what they do. most of the people who play for them are, in fact, not 15 years old, but i'm really enjoying your idiocy, once again. i hope you choke and die on that foot that you wedged into your mouth.

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

wah.....harsh critic, you just bash bands because you have no friends or something?, Hartsfield is an awesome band (coming from someone that isn't much into the style of music they play) really cool guys too..so take that critic and shove it up your ass

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

I like Hartsfield, but everyone has their opinions, and this review doesn't like Hartsfield. So be it...

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

You're a fucking idiot.

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

hahhaha. I love all the little kids trying to defend this band.

hartsfield isnt made up of young dudes sorry. The drummer is like 28. Basically anyone who says modest mouse sucks and supports hartsfield are most likely all:

1) around the age of 15
2) friends of the band
3) into other shitty tbs'ish bands and plus some 'hardcore' bands like poison the well and the used and thrice and etc. crap.

The girl on the cover is fat and ugly. Of course, this is all personal preference. But lets face it, bands like this exist solely to be laughed at. you can tell these clueless band dudes use words like 'emo' and 'dont tell anyone she was 14' in their daily vocabulary.

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

we're playing with Hartsfield next week. i can't wait, these guys are great at what they do and the show will be amazing despite what some "reviewer" (did you give yourself this title btw?) says !

hartsfield kicks ass! if this reviewer was worth his/her salt they'd be in a magazine or something so fuck em!

inagreendase (January 8, 2005)

Poor grammar, ad hominem, random accusations and homophobia? It's a package deal! Where do I sign up?

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

Whoa where did he diss Ottawa? Fucking guy-what are you from Pittsburgh? YOU WOULD NEVER BELIEVE HOW BEAUTIFUL THIS CITY IS>

Barkley

Anchors (January 7, 2005)

If you're a fan of this band, as I suspect most of the people defending it are on the street team, you really have no right to be talking smack about Modest Mouse.

Modest Mouse have been around since 1993, and have been making dynamic, and quality records since then. They're as diverse as they are musically inclined, which is why Hartsfield should be taking lessons from them.

Argue for this band all you want, but get back to me in 10 years and we'll see who the music world remembers.

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

to busy making a living eh? thats why you have replied 4 or 5 times in the past 3 days to this review..... fuck your a fag. you have no right callin anyone hypocritical... how were the kids today? the bullies take your lunch money agian? fuckin pathetic you are

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

i dont think they are gropies, greg. these are just 'fans of music' that get upset with bullshit like the stuff that you call 'a review'. You brought Hartsfiled's personal lives into your review by trashing their bios, and carving them for being from ottawa. and you called an earlier replier hypocritical? your a teacher right? someone who is supposed to shape young kids minds. well try acting like one. if you can dish out the heat to hartsfiled, you better be able to take some back from their loyal fans and music fans alike. not start crying about what they write in response to your review (if you can even call it that). im surprised that the people at punknews havent already told you to grow up.... and dude... if your gonna listen to modest mouse, you have no say in what is good and bad in the hard core punk world.

greg0rb (January 7, 2005)

Hey thanks for the back-up Anchors, I've been too busy making a living to reply to all these dick-sucking Hartsfield groupies who sit at home commenting here.
1. For the last time, do not comment on my personal life, I dont assume things about yours (other than your dicksucking).
2. "Pulling a Jesse" - Jesse is a fellow staff reviewer. Go read some of his reviews, they are very entertaining.
3. Click on "see others" under my name and you will find out that I am very open minded and fair in reviewing, and I stand by my review here. I have reviewed big bands and many small ones, and I will give good reviews where I see original and well done music. Here I do not.

*4. I will not be checking these comments from here on out. I don't have time for this shit, so don't waste your internet breath. Thanks.
-Greg

Anchors (January 7, 2005)

Yeah, it's tight, but plenty of bands can make that claim.

Tight and good don't always go hand in hand. My issue is that it's boring, and derivative. Of course not every band can be original, but I need a bit more out of a band than this.

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

jd is the most Intelligent and witty person i know... you belong in the same league as greg. grow up

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

wonder if greg will take a few steps back and think next time he wants "to pull a Jesse" (whatever that means?) the last poster is 100% correct. this is not a review.. this is just some guy with no music credentials ripping on some kids who love what they do. who cares what their music is similar too. anyone with half a brain could point out many bands that sound alike. Its the genre of music that sounds alike... and its kids like hartsfiled that love making it sound that way. just becuase they dont say in their bios that they enjoy listing to modest mouse and watching soap operas like you, give you no right to rip on these guys like you did. I seriously think you should re-think even listing to the CD's you recieve, let alone even reviewing them.... this is brutal.

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

I must say the guy reviewing this cd is not professional at ALL. You need to have some class. Of course you don't like it... that's OBVIOUS. The score is for the cd and should reflect it but you took it a couple extra steps and were very unprofessional when you started insulting their bios, video, and musicianship. There is professional reviews with constructive critisism and then there is you.... the unprofessional asshole who instead of doing a review decided he would spread his hatred for a genre of music and take away the only thing they ask for in return.... a fair chance to be heard. You have taken that from them and I can't believe this site allows such trash to be posted. Instead of hating on them because you are extremly biased and only like modest mouse, why don't you say... it's not my cup of tea but I can see how this cd might appeal to someone who likes this genre. Being a reviewer holds great power and responsibility and it needs to be given to someone who is mature and wise enough to use it properly. You need to be able to "sit on the fence". You are biased. These guys pour their lives, souls, blood sweat and tears into this. The least you could do is show a little respect for some smalltown kids doing bigtime things with what resources they are fortunate enough to have. I have seen these guys on their recent tour and they really put on a show. I have no doubt that they will do something special with this band if they keep pushing past assholes like you who just want to run them down and discourage anyone from giving them a FAIR chance. Your little piece of work is not a review.. its slander. My next question is why doesn't this site get someone who likes this genre of music to review it? They would never send a punk to review the next backstreet boys album. Why? Because it would turn out to be biased hatred garbage like seen here. I give you 0 stars as a reviewer for being unprofessional and want nothing more to do with this site. You have forced me to find a site that can afford to have professionals instead of a grade 8 music teacher. I can't believe they let you work with kids. Poor kids.

-EV

tenaciousD (January 7, 2005)

anchors..you are quite the arrogant one

though this ep may not be to your liking, itsVERY tight and is musically correct.

i agree perhaps they have a bit of maturing to do..but the last track "halifax and a two day drive" is an awesome peice of music. i have no doubt these guys could make it if they kept it up.

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

haha forgot this goes by half stars

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

you mentioned greg in your comments " thats why there are staff reviewers like me who get to review shit like this" well maybe if you had some class theyd let yea review some bigger bands. honestly dude, this isnt a review, this is biased hate. how do you know they purposely copy tbs rather than just love tbs..so naturally their music is influenced?? example hhhmm...greenday=ramones. furthermore, how do you know they dream of being the next victory band?? i assume you have asked them?? start doing your job like a decent open minded guy.

If seen these boys recently and man do they ever having something special in their live show. give them a fuckin break, they are young..its their first release/ video. most of the tunes they played at a recent show were not on this ep and blew their old stuff away. the best part is these boys have hella fun being on stage...prolly more then you did tearing them apart.

peace.

Anchors (January 7, 2005)

Obviously, you don't practice good spelling either. (Grammer, Kindergarten) I wouldn't know how to spell it either, but then I got to 7th grade.

And cd review scores aren't for hard work. Everybody that reviews, staff or not, realizes how much work goes into making a record, even just an EP. That's not the point, hard work is only half of it, making good music is the other. And Hartsfield missed that boat.

Go to APnet, I'm sure you'd feel quite at home there.

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

fucking awesome. like 2 retards fighting over the red crayon.

-WNB
jd

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

uh oh... he/she's pulled out the kindergarten insult.

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

first of all, i don't practice good grammer when replying to mindless reviews like yours, secondly i just dont really care how it flows, the points were all there..
and yes, the genre of music you listen to has a direct effect on how your review goes. in your "top ten" bands at this time, i do not reconize one hard core punk bad in there (i dont reconize a few bands, just assuming they arent)
and if you have respect for how much hard work goes into the making of a CD, the tour and practice then you should have atleast given these young guys some credit. all im sayin was you can tell your 'profession' as a record reviewer will go no far as punknews. keep up trashing bands to make your pathetic life seem more interesting.. good on yah pal

- corbie
ps. i didnt see the star value when i first posted, so here is 5 stars for hartsfiled and 5 for you, seeing how you probly never got any in kindergarden.

greg0rb (January 6, 2005)

Wow, this is what I get for "pulling a jesse". corbie, first of all your grammar sucks and that was a very difficult comment to decipher... second, you're a real asshole trying to bring in other topics that have NOTHING to do with this specific review: my career (what's yours?), bands I like (I dont give a shit if you like them too), etc. I do respect the work of small bands, I know how much it takes, I merely dislike their music and music video. If you like Hartsfield, fine, but obviously you don't that much since you gave them only two stars. In summary- you're a prick, and a hypocritical one at that.
-Greg

Anonymous (January 6, 2005)

alllllright... well greg, now that we all know you are a some virgin, grade 8 music teacher, here is what i think. i was at their last show, where they, along with "The Fully Down" opend for the big record deal band 'not by choice'. After talking with a few people i met and attended the show with, we all agreeded that Hartsfiled along with The Fully Down (apperaed on warp tour) were the better of the 3 bands. Not by choice's constant use of distored guitar and all of their 'four chord wonder songs' made Hartsfield look good as they mix in a combonation of clean guitar. Their intensity on stage is one of the best i have seen from a local talent.
I do agree with you that they do sound alot like TBS, on the other hand you can say that about any band in this type of genre. Saves the Day, TBS, Matchbook Romance, ect all sound the same, according to you... as what you said in your review.. As a huge fan of local talent, i think these kids are doing a great job. They love what they do and only because they arent signed to a large label doesnt give you the right to rip on them like you did. Trashing their bio's and video shows the lack of respect you have for music, and the fact these guys are just doing what they love..
So i suggest you give up reviewing and stick to feeling sorry for your self while listing to your modest mouse recrod and watching the OC. Modest Mouse isn't even punk...

-- corbie

Anonymous (January 6, 2005)

i love how the guy who reviewed this shit said modest mouse is his fav cd. that shit is more main stream that Taking Back Sunday and just awful

lou (January 6, 2005)

"remember when every other band sounded like thursday? those were the days..."

funniest thing i've heard all day. well, either that or the phrase "pull a jesse." score is for that comment and the previously mentioned boobies.

maverick (January 6, 2005)

The only cover better than this was that Asher cover.

-Scott

Anonymous (January 6, 2005)

wow the video is craptacular

also TBS needs to be given less credit, and more credit to lifetime.

Anonymous (January 6, 2005)

I agree that this sounds a lot like Taking Back Sunday as well as a slew of others bands, but I don't think "Saves the Day" belongs in that category.

Oh, and the cover girl has a nice rack, but as a CD cover it's a pretty shitty picture to use.

Anonymous (January 6, 2005)

You must really hate pop punk! You ripped those guys apart! I think you went to far by trashing their bios. I think they are doing a good job. I can appriciate the work that goes into creating songs, touring, recording, making a website, designing the cd. I liked the cd a lot actually. To each his own. Keep it up boys.

-RW

Anonymous (January 6, 2005)

Score is for the reviewer getting all worked up about people criticizing the steaming pile of dung that is reviewed here.

WNB
-jd

Anonymous (January 6, 2005)

scores for the person below who mentioned lifetime
-belinda

Anonymous (January 5, 2005)

these guys played at Barrymore's(mid size venue) just down the street from my apartment. Apparently the girls turned away due to over capacity were crying. I can't slag a hometown band. This score is for "Jersey's Best Dancers" by Lifetime

Barkley

Anonymous (January 5, 2005)

remember when every other band sounded like thursday? those were the days...

greg0rb (January 5, 2005)

??? Yeah, I pretty much said in the review that this is shit. Pink bow?... yeah. I'm just reviewing what they asked me to, man... I'm not sure who you're trying to insult here.

Anonymous (January 5, 2005)

thanks for the clarification. shit with a pink bow, is still shit.

greg0rb (January 5, 2005)

Just so you guys know, punknews reviews just about anything that gets sent to them. That's why there are staff reviewers like me so that all the crap like this can get reviewed.
-Greg

Anonymous (January 5, 2005)

this score is for my grammar. you're = you are. that's just sloppy.

WNB
-jd

Anonymous (January 5, 2005)

dammit. forgot to autograph that one below this...

ps- this also has the worst album cover i've ever seen. really.

WNB
-jd

Anonymous (January 5, 2005)

don't settle 4 less pal! you're opinion does matter! your mom even likes it!

i don't care about this review or this band. i do care about the selection of reviews around here. hot snakes one day, fugazi another day, then this rubbish. the score is for punknews.org's consistency. not the band friend, he means well.

Anonymous (January 5, 2005)

This is in response to the person who said I am a friend of the band. This may shock you but I don't know the band. WOW! Someone actually likes these guys? Could it be true? YES! Contrary to what you may believe your opinion in not right. Its your opinion just like this is mine. I have seen them when they were on tour and I love them more than a lot of the crappy bands that this site gives good reviews.
I had to respond to the guy trying to dismiss my review. Thats rude.

Anonymous (January 5, 2005)

scroll down. read the post from one of this band's friends..."my mom even likes it!!!!" i think im going to start reading reviews at allmusic.com again. these bands are awful.

WNB
-jd

killyouridols (January 5, 2005)

ahahah i remember us against them
they had a song i liked

Anonymous (January 5, 2005)

This score is also for the girl on the cover. Not overly attractive but she looks DIRTY.

Anonymous (January 4, 2005)

Score's for the girl on the cover.

Anonymous (January 4, 2005)

Oh sorry, Settle 4 Less.... cuz "for" isn't cool enough

Anonymous (January 4, 2005)

I love how the label that put this out is named Settle for Less

Anonymous (January 4, 2005)

I have seen these guys play a couple times and they NEVER let me down! AWESOME live show, really nice guys, and I love the Katya cd! I will agree with the review that these guys sound like taking back sunday meets blah blah blah.... so what? I happen to like those bands and I also happen to like Hartsfield. I say to anyone reading the review to take a listen with an open mind and judge themselves. My mom even likes it!! I can't wait until they record their new songs I have heard live because they are even better than this cd. Keep your eye out for them. You heard it here first biatch!

Anonymous (January 4, 2005)

Bahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhah that video is awesome.

thirtyseconds (January 4, 2005)

Fair enough.

Anonymous (January 4, 2005)

score is for the chick's rack on the cover.

greg0rb (January 4, 2005)

Haha, my bad. I just feel sorry for bands sometimes, especially the smaller bands. They are tight enough, they get one extra point than the minimum.
-Greg

thirtyseconds (January 4, 2005)

Why the 2 score Greg? Why not 1?

joeg (January 4, 2005)

just say no kids.

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